Punk Rock Safety – Details, episodes & analysis

Fine. You're right. The title is also the name of a NOFX album. NOFX is rad, though, so we're keeping it.

This week, we're talking to a kickass guest, Sam Goodman, about making safety less sucky. Sam even wrote a book about it.

The truth is, a lot of people have experienced working with safety folks that just come across as assholes, or buzzkills, or cops, or knobs. It's not a surprise that most people aren't super-stoked to hear the safety person is on-site next week, right?

There are a few things that probably help dispel the myth that safety is about catching someone doing it wrong, though. That's what the lucky 13th episode is all about: what are we doing to make safety more relatable, useful, and less shitty?

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com

It's episode 12, and we've got a new quote for a T-shirt, and instead of "goal conflicts," we just went with the title of the episode. Watch the merch store; we'll get it sorted.

So, safety first, right? Maybe. Sometimes. Definitely, when someone asks, I guess. Like we say in the episode, there's probably not a room of executives who hate everything safety. It'd be a weird party, though.

The boys talk through some stories, goal conflicts, impossible positions, error traps, and some other stuff that isn't exactly related but is fun anyway. It's a little tricky, and maybe the punk rock thing is just saying that "safety first" isn't possible.

Or whatever.

Come hang with the boys at the Punk In Drublic fest in LA!

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com

Wait, can I be on the show? Good question. Talk to Ron, and make sure to bring bribery-flavored hot dogs.

Seriously though, there's no real plan, but if you have ideas, let us know.

This was an episode that included some discussion on leadership, but it won't be the only one. There's a lot to talk about, so it's probably safe to expect more on the topic.

Did we mention John Wilkes is on this episode? Give that guy a round of applause for his occasional poor decision-making. Seriously, though, check out what John has to say here and in real life. He won't steer you wrong.

Check out the next episode, and remember we're coming at you every two weeks now. Or fortnightly. Whatever you like. It's 14 days-ish. 

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com

There was some very real belief that this was an April Fool's joke. It isn't. Sorry about that.

Ron, Dave, and Ben discuss what it means to be a safety professional. Well, if safety professionals are even necessary in organizations, Ron's not sure. Ben can't figure out how to go to conferences, so there are some helpful hints about how to do anything useful there. 

Maybe the podcast could replace a person? Probably not, but we'll consider it along with other options. 

Anyway, they should maybe be skeptical of their own importance. We share some ideas from other folks (Josh Kreger and John Greene are in that group) before we share our own. There's some discussion about why safety folks are dismissed as irrelevant or unnecessary and how we might better spend our time. 

And there's some generally childish banter, so we keep the streak alive. Episode 2 is maybe even more useful than Episode 1. You're welcome. 

Fea (fea210.com) does the intro/outro music. Check them out. And keep an eye out for PRS merch someday, too. 

The podcast continues, and up next we'll talk a little bit about leadership. And our first guest will join us!

We can't tell you much about that episode yet, because we don't want to spoil the party. But we think you'll dig it.

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com

It's the first episode of Punk Rock Safety!

Ben, Ron, and Dave are all over the place on this one, but we'll settle into a rhythm soon. In the true spirit of punk, if it isn't good, at least make it loud. So, you might want to turn this first one up.

That's ok, though. Safety works the same way a lot of times. There's experimentation and a need for intelligent failure. We're doing our best to manage on that second part.

In the next few episodes, we'll look at what makes a safety professional, the pretend choices between safety philosophies,  the concept of safety culture, behavior-based safety, MBWA, and probably some BS mixed in, too.

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com

Snake eyes, MFers!

It's episode 11, and with a minute of prep or so, we settled on figuring out if people really are the solution to things, especially safety things.

Toxic Narcotic has a song called "People Suck"

I mean, sometimes, people are assholes, right? Or dumb? Or aren't they? Sometimes some moron tries to smash a can of triple-expanding foam with a forklift.

We don't really think people suck, to be clear. We humans are actually pretty cool. But maybe we're not the only cool thing or the only solution to problems.

Toxic Narcotic, People Suck - the video is here

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com

The fact that we've made it to episode 10 is sort of miraculous. Like a stage diver, you don't have to want it, but it's happening.

We're talking about contractor management—or, as Ron calls it, "cross-boundary joint activity." Ron talks about agents and stuff like that, not even in the context of Agent Orange, which is probably a better conversation.

Ok, what we're really looking at is some of the mismatch between why we hire contractors to begin with. How do we reduce friction between clients and contractors? Is it about the alignment of goals? Dave says it's mostly the client's problem since there's a power dynamic, so maybe that's why inflatable rafts at concerts are important.

Like a "glory hole" of sorts, there are perspectives from both sides of the boundary.

Want to check out Agent Orange? You're welcome: https://youtu.be/4SHIEKeubCM

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com

By the time this episode comes out, Ron will have defended his doctoral dissertation, a whole lot like Milo from The Descendents did. Except Ron is cooler.

We're talking about investigations in this episode. What are they for? Ron thinks they're a little different than Dave and Ben do, but the consensus from the boys is that a lot of the espoused values of investigating don't make it into practice. Is it a process of creating closure or are we just dumb?

There's some leftover conversation after returning from CHOL, but mostly, we talk about the competing goals and outcomes from investigations of events/incidents/accidents.  

What you look for is mostly what you find. So, if you've looked for this podcast, then you've found it, and you only have yourself to blame.

Here's a link to Milo Goes to College. It's a great record.

https://youtu.be/5qN3rAc5mPY

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com

We said we were going to livestream, but we definitely didn't. Sorry. This shit's harder than it seems like it should be.

You should 100% check out the YouTube on this one. Other Ben did some sweet background editing because we were in a hotel meeting room with gold striped fabric walls that looked like a United Nations briefing room. That made it really fucking hard to switch the background, and Other Ben did some solid work here, so give him some love.

Uhhhh. Did we mention Ron's defense is on Friday the 28th? 

https://osu.zoom.us/j/93938693366?pwd=jBaGq9xR8aC4qI6r09oCVAz9I6hSbr.1 - but mute yo self. Nobody wants to hear you breathing heavy or your stupid questions.

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com

There's no better title than to make sure we've got Diane's name in it. Why? If you have to ask, go find out, then listen to the episode. There's a punk band called FEAR. Diane hasn't seen them. Anyway, fear of something different is sort of the topic for this episode.

We're posting a little early because the CHOL conference is happening this week, and we'll be live there, too.

Back to the important stuff: DCJ is kind of a big deal. Even bigger than Ron, and that's saying something. Diane shames us all by starting out with stories of going to Sex Pistol shows and pogo-ing until she could barely walk. Fucking legend.

Anyway, we talk about why safety professionals—and organizations, too—are afraid to try new things in safety. There's a lot that goes into it, and the consensus is that it's not about dumb people. Why can't we move beyond so many ideas we know aren't working the way we hoped?

So, how do we get past that fear and anxiety? Well, that's what podcasts are for, dude. Hit play and figure it out.

DISCLAIMER: You probably shouldn't take anything in this podcast too seriously. Punk Rock Safety is for entertainment only. It's definitely not a replacement for professional or legal advice, and the fair amount of piss-taking, shithousery, and general ridiculousness ought to clue you into the fact that no one - and no organization - is endorsing (or un-endorsing, if that's a thing) any products, ideas, or other things. Except NOFX. We definitely endorse them.

Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.

https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/

Let us know what you think at info@punkrocksafety.com or on our LinkedIn page.

Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com