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Podcast Product For Humans | The Practice of Product IRL!

Product For Humans | The Practice of Product IRL!

Christa Hill & Renee Matsalla | Co-Founders of Tacit Edge Product Leadership

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Frequency: 1 episode/158d. Total Eps: 19

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Product for Humans is the podcast for leaders building products in the age of AI.

Hosted by Christa Hill and Renee Matsalla, co-founders of Tacit Edge, this show explores what it really takes to lead when AI is no longer a feature. It is the environment.

Each episode tackles real business challenges through the lens of product thinking, AI strategy, data readiness, and human-centred leadership. Because the question is no longer “How do we ship?” It is “How do we lead responsibly when the tools are evolving faster than our teams?”

You will hear:

  • How AI changes the role of product leaders
  • Where strategy breaks down in the messy middle
  • What to automate and what to protect
  • How to lift the floor of literacy so your organization can raise the ceiling of growth

At Tacit Edge, we believe AI is not the strategy. Leadership is.

If you are responsible for outcomes, teams, or transformation, this podcast is for you.

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We Built This Mess: AI, Power, and the Human Cost of Moving Fast With Katrina German

Episode 18

vendredi 13 février 2026 • Duration 47:58

AI is changing everything, but the real crisis is trust, and leaders are not measuring the human cost.

In this 2026 episode of Product for Humans, Christa Hill goes deep with Katrina German, one of Canada’s clearest voices on ethical digital leadership.

They start with what sparked Katrina’s recent media coverage: AI-enabled harassment and the rise of synthetic sexualized imagery used to silence women online. From there, the conversation zooms out to a bigger question: how did we go from early internet guardrails to today’s “terms of service as consent” reality, and what does that mean for Canadians trying to lead through platform power, misinformation, and fragile digital infrastructure?

Then they shift to the human side. Katrina names the thing many leaders feel but cannot articulate: technostress. They talk boundaries, organizational clarity, and why leaders in 2026 have one job above all else: rebuilding trust.

They wrap with a fast, fun “Smash or Pass” round on AI self-regulation, unenforced principles, and the myth that we are “too early” to govern.

What we cover
  • Why AI-generated sexualized imagery is being used to silence women online, and why platforms cannot shrug it off as “user responsibility”
  • The media problem: whose voices get airtime, and what it costs when expert women get clipped to one sentence
  • A practical solution for journalists and experts: Informed Perspectives, a network that helps match media with expert women
  • Regulation memory loss: what Canadians already regulated well (and why we stopped pushing for the same accountability in social platforms)
  • Platform power vs public interest: why commercial incentives are not the same as societal stewardship
  • Canada’s opportunity moment: and why “building our own” is back on the table
  • The human cost of constant change: technostress, burnout signals, and what leaders are asking people to carry
  • What leaders must prioritize in 2026: trust as a strategic pillar, not a brand value
  • Smash or Pass lightning round: self-regulation, terms of service, “responsible AI” without enforcement, and leadership literacy

Guest

Katrina German is the Founder and CEO of Ethical Digital. Her work focuses on ethical digital leadership, trust, and helping organizations build human-centered digital strategy with real accountability.

https://www.katrinagerman.com/

https://www.ethicaldigital.ca/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/katrinagerman/

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Context of the Conversation

07:27 The Mess We Built: Regulation and Technology

26:00 The Human Cost of Not Measuring

26:58 Navigating Emotional Responses in a Digital World

28:29 The Importance of Self-Care in Tech

30:19 Understanding Techno Stress and Burnout

32:35 Strategies for Managing Tech Overload

36:49 The Future of AI: Integration or Opt-Out?

39:13 Building Trust in the Age of Technology

44:14 The Role of Ethics in AI Development

Hot Girl AI Summer: Why You Need to Go AI-First — Now

Season 2 · Episode 3

jeudi 31 juillet 2025 • Duration 41:41

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In this energizing mid-year check-in, Christa and Renée dive into the accelerating pace of AI and why 2025 is the year to stop watching from the sidelines. From Canada’s shockingly low AI adoption stats to what it really means to build AI-first businesses, they break down the urgency for leaders, teams, and individuals to level up—fast. 

💡 They cover: 

  • What “AI-first” means (and why “AI-last” is a risk) 
  • Why technical literacy is the new leadership currency 
  • The myth of AI replacing humans—and what’s actually happening in real companies 
  • Real-world use cases built for less than $5 (!) 
  • How strategic people (not just technical folks) are leading the AI charge 

Whether you’re feeling overwhelmed or already in the mix, this is your moment to get in the game. 

🔥 It’s not just an AI moment. It’s a movement. 

👉 Join us online for a free Hands on "Zero to One AI" lesson you can do over your lunch break:  Sign Up Here
 

 👉 Register for our next AI Business Leader webinar:  Sign Up Here

 

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PFH013: How Product Management Powers a $10 Billion Tourism Industry

vendredi 11 octobre 2024 • Duration 46:10

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Tired of your job and want to pivot?

Well, it isn’t as hard as you might think! Don’t just take our word for it—hear from recent Southern Alberta Institute of Technology (SAIT) grad Jillian Hale, who transitioned from marketing to become a Group Product Manager at Travel Alberta.

Join Christa Hill and Renee Matsalla tomorrow to learn how Jill made her successful pivot into Product Management and how you can too!

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PFH007: Product For Humans - From Interior Design to Microsoft with Kelly Medeiros

Season 1 · Episode 6

lundi 6 mai 2024 • Duration 58:56

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Did you know you can work at Microsoft with a background in interior design!?

That’s exactly what Kelly did!

After a career in Interior Design and the furniture industry, Kelly did the seemingly impossible: She started working for an up-and-coming tech startup.

Then she landed at Microsoft!!

How did she do it?

How does she use her unique background to lead teams?

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PFH006: Product For Humans - Global Product Management Excellence with Temi Oyewole

Season 1 · Episode 4

lundi 6 mai 2024 • Duration 56:23

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Sometimes you meet people who were born to be Product Managers.
Temi Oyewole is this type of person. 

Originally from Nigeria, Temi did her Masters in the UK, became a Strategy and Finance Consultant in Lagos, then made her way to Canada in 2018. 

Soon she realized that she wanted to become a Product Manager. 

And she did just that, landing a job with the rapidly growing Virtual Gurus. 

Now she is a Product Manager at ATB and has never looked back. 

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PFH001: Product for Humans - AMA with Pivot Pro Cameron Christian

Season 1 · Episode 5

mercredi 10 avril 2024 • Duration 58:29

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YOU belong in Product. 
 
Don't believe us? Join our Product Ask Me Anything with Cameron Christian who recently made the pivot from broadcasting to tech! 
 
Despite graduating into a tough job market, Cameron was able to find the perfect career for himself as a technical Project Manager for the global powerhouse Evertz. 

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PFH005: Product for Humans - AMA with Charlé West

Season 1 · Episode 7

mardi 30 avril 2024 • Duration 52:37

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Join us for this incredible conversation with Charlé West of Athennian!

She is a mid-career PdM and shares her journey into product and her reflections on her experiences and learnings to date!

 

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PFH009: Product For Humans - Using Product Management for Good with Sandi Boga

Season 1 · Episode 2

lundi 6 mai 2024 • Duration 01:00:57

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When it comes to generating impact through Product Management, there is no one better to talk to than Sandi Boga! 
 
Sandi’s impressive career saw her leading teams at Alberta’s biggest tech success stories including SMART, ATB, Symend, and Benevity. 
 
Now she connects non-profits with the funders who support their world-changing ambitions as Head of Product @ Impact Genome. 
 
We cannot wait to talk to her about her path to Product Management and her unique approach to leadership and impact. 
 
You DO NOT want to miss this one!

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PFH012: Product for Humans - Using Product Practices to Scale Jobber w. David Ferris!

mercredi 19 juin 2024 • Duration 01:00:54

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Want to know how to scale a company to BILLIONS of dollars in services delivered?

Look no further than 👋 David Ferris, the Sr. Product Manager (AI) at Jobber! 

David has been leading Product Management practices for 11 years at Jobber, an award-winning operations management software for home service businesses. 

David helped Jobber reach 200K+ home service pros, who have over 27 million households and invoiced over $40 billion in services!! 

Talk about SCALE! 

Join us to hear how David kept a level head and used Product Management best practices to rapidly scale Jobber’s products. 

See you there!

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PFH010: Product For Humans - Product Led Growth With Tom Alvarez - Good Lawyer

Season 1 · Episode 1

lundi 6 mai 2024 • Duration 55:39

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Brace yourselves for an epic live chat with Thomas Alvarez, CPO of Goodlawyer!

Tom and his team are revolutionizing how businesses find reputable legal counsel. 

No more massive bills and expensive retainers.

Just value.

Hear how Tom's Product leadership brought Goodlawyer to where it is today, about his career ups and downs, his wild ride into product management, and what it’s really like to ride on a rocket ship of high growth.

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