Paincast is an effort of the Pain Science Division at the Canadian Physiotherapy Association. Paincast brings together researchers, clinicians, and students to facilitate knowledge translation, discussion, and critical thinking on topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The views expressed in each episode are of individual guests, do not constitute medical advice, and do not represent the views of the Pain Science Division or the Canadian Physiotherapy Association. Follow us on Instagram @paincast.psd.
While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence in the episodes, and the topic is researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit feedback through this form: https://forms.gle/BQ4KymfsCuTSFGaX7. You may contact Tiffany Tiu at paincast.psd@gmail.com if you have any other inquiries.
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Ep48: Pain Medicine, Pain Advocacy, Pain Innovation, Pain Research: Canadian Pain Society Conference Special
Episode 48
Monday, May 11, 2026 • Duration 01:12:29
In this episode, I bring you to Quebec City at the Canadian Pain Society Annual Scientific Meeting to meet 4 incredible individuals:
(00:01:34) Dr. Andrea Furlan: The role of a physiatrist in interdisciplinary pain rehab and some of the challenges and hopes she has
(00:20:14) Lynn Cooper: The significance of people with lived experiences at the tables of pain research, pain advocacy, and improving pain management in Canada
(00:40:39) Tahir Janmohamad: How innovation can fill in the gaps of pain care, particularly how an app with pain tracking and pain psychology can help people living with pain
(00:55:26) Dr. Kelly Shinkaruk: Research on why people fail interdisciplinary pain programs
Speaker Bio and Links
Dr. Andrea Furlan is a physiatrist who sees people living with chronic pain at the Toronto Academic Pain Medicine Institute. She is also a Senior Scientist at the KITE Research Institute, the research arm of the Toronto Rehabilitation Institute, and is a professor at the University of Toronto. She also has a YouTube channel on chronic pain management.
Lynn Cooper was formerly president of the Canadian Pain Coalition. She has spent more than 20 years volunteering with organizations that seek to better understand issues surrounding chronic pain, and furthering research into and management of chronic pain. She was awarded the Person with Lived Experience Leadership Award at the Canadian Pain Society Annual Scientific Meeting 2026.
Tahir Janmohamed is the founder and CEO of ManagingLife, a digital health company that improves the lives of people with chronic pain. Prior to ManagingLife, Tahir spent 8 years as a strategy & analytics consultant at IBM. Tahir is a Professional Engineer in Computer Engineering from the University of Toronto, and has an MBA from the Rotman School of Management.
Dr. Kelly Shinkaruk is an anesthesiologist working with people living with chronic pain in the Calgary Chronic Pain Centre. She also has a Master's degree in Medical Education with a focus on Interprofessional experiences and collaborative competency development in medical students.
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form: https://forms.gle/UFfbUHBh8uKwSKgS8
Connect with Tiffany Tiu at paincast.psd@gmail.com!
Ep47: A Paradigm Shift in Thinking About and Treating Chronic Pain with Dr. Bronwyn Lennox Thompson
Episode 47
Tuesday, April 7, 2026 • Duration 01:12:31
In this episode, we talked about
The differences between acute and chronic pain at the physical, neurological and psychosocial level
A paradigm shift in thinking about and treating chronic pain patients
Acceptance and Commitment Therapy: What it is, how it works and why it can be particularly beneficial for individuals in managing chronic pain
Setting realistic expectations with patients while avoiding any sense of invalidation or skepticism
This is a student-led episode under the mentorship of Tiffany Tiu. Jules and Brooklyn are Master of Physiotherapy students from the University of Alberta and McMaster University respectively.
Dr. Bronwyn Lennox Thompson leads the Postgraduate Programmes in Pain and Pain Management at the University of Otago, based in Christchurch, New Zealand. Dr. Lennox Thompson’s clinical background is occupational therapy and psychology, and her clinical and research focus is on supported pain self-management in daily life. Her research interests include lived experiences of chronic pain, consumer/lived experience involvement in research, policy and service development, and supported self-management in painful medical procedures. Her primary academic work is teaching an interprofessional approach to pain and pain management to clinicians from a diverse range of clinical backgrounds. She was awarded the University of Otago Teaching Excellence Award in 2022, and the University of Otago Gold Medal for teaching excellence in 2025.
ACT Made Simple: An Easy-To-Read Primer on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy by Russ Harris [book]
Belton, J., & Darlow, B. (2026). Do We Trust Patients in Pain? What Would Happen If We Did?. JOSPT, 56(1), 1-3.
Radical Relief: A Guide to Overcome Chronic Pain by Joe Tatta [book]
Ep38: Musings from over 40 years of practice: Bas Asselbergs Chats with an Early-career Physiotherapist (Part 2)
Episode 38
Sunday, May 11, 2025 • Duration 46:55
In this episode, we talked about:
A shift in how we think about the role of our hands as our understanding of pain science and patient science evolve
Discussing and addressing patient expectations for physiotherapy
Advice for physiotherapists, new and experienced
Graduated in 1983, Bas has extensive post-graduate experience in manual, exercise and movement focused therapies, sports physiotherapy and pain related education. He was a Mentor for post-graduate physiotherapists for the Pain Sciences Division of the Canadian Physiotherapy Association, and has been Team Therapist for the Junior National Figure Skating Team and the National Cross-Country Ski Team, and attended many National, World and Olympic competitions of a wide variety of sports. He has taught workshops in North America to Osteopaths, Medical Doctors and Physiotherapists since 1992. Sebastian will never stop learning. He enjoys his attempts at golf, loves travelling and being with friends and family.
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form: https://forms.gle/UFfbUHBh8uKwSKgS8
Ep37: What Does It Take to Provide Excellent Chronic Pain Care? An Interdisciplinary Pain Clinic Model with Dr. Angela Mailis
Episode 37
Wednesday, April 30, 2025 • Duration 01:07:22
In this episode, we talked about
The systemic challenges in Ontario’s healthcare system and pain management
The importance of a quality interdisciplinary team for the benefit of the patient
What it takes to create a successful high-quality patient-centred interdisciplinary team
Dr. Angela Mailis obtained her medical degree from the Medical School of Kapodistriakon University of Athens Greece Summa Cum Laude; became a Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians of Canada with specialization in Physical Medicine (1982); and holds a Master’s degree from the Institute of Medical Science, University of Toronto (1988). She rose to the rank of Full Professor at the Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto (2005) and has practiced exclusively in the area of Chronic Pain for the past 43 years. She founded and directed the Comprehensive Pain Program of the Toronto Western Hospital/University Health Network for 33 years (1982-2015). Subsequently she became the founder and director of the Pain and Wellness Centre in Vaughan, Ontario (2014-present), the only academic community-based pain clinic, funded by the Ontario Ministry of Health.
Mailis, A., & Lakha, S. F. (2019). From (Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care) policy to implementation: a retrospective look at a community-based patient-centered model of care for chronic pain. Canadian Journal of Pain, 3(1), 114-125.
Mailis, A., Deshpande, A., & Lakha, S. F. (2022). Long term outcomes of chronic pain patients attending a publicly funded community-based interdisciplinary pain program in the Greater Toronto area: results of a practice-based audit. Journal of Patient-Reported Outcomes, 6(1), 44.
Ep36: Musings from over 40 years of practice: Bas Asselbergs Chats with an Early-career Physiotherapist (Part 1)
Episode 36
Friday, March 21, 2025 • Duration 58:54
In this episode, we talked about:
How we can reinforce our own confirmation bias and how to break the cycle
What matters the most as physiotherapists
How your experiences as a physiotherapist drastically change as you shift your paradigm from a fixer mindset to a guide mindset
How Bas refined the art of connecting with patients over the years and help them understand pain science
Why is it of paramount importance that we help patient understand their pain
Graduated in 1983, Bas has extensive post-graduate experience in manual, exercise and movement focused therapies, sports physiotherapy and pain related education. He was a Mentor for post-graduate physiotherapists for the Pain Sciences Division of the Canadian Physiotherapy Association, and has been Team Therapist for the Junior National Figure Skating Team and the National Cross-Country Ski Team, and attended many National, World and Olympic competitions of a wide variety of sports. He has taught workshops in North America to Osteopaths, Medical Doctors and Physiotherapists since 1992. Sebastian will never stop learning. He enjoys his attempts at golf, loves travelling and being with friends and family.
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form:
Ep35: Holistic Approach to Cancer-Related Pain with Dr. Jenna Smith-Turchyn and Holly Edward
Episode 35
Monday, January 20, 2025 • Duration 54:27
In this episode, we talked about:
Experiences of having cancer and cancer-related pain
The significance of physiotherapy in cancer rehab and managing cancer-related pain
Common misconceptions about physiotherapy for people living with or beyond cancer
How physiotherapists can consider the evidence of cancer rehab and the unique biopsychosocial realities of individuals when providing care
Jenna Smith-Turchyn, PT, PhD, is a physiotherapist and Assistant Professor in the School of Rehabilitation Science at McMaster University. She is also co-chair of the Canadian Physiotherapy Association’s Oncology Division. Jenna has an active research program at various cancer centres across Ontario. Her research focuses on cancer rehabilitation for individuals living with or beyond a cancer diagnosis, with the goal of maximizing participation and physical functioning.
Holly Edward is a physiotherapist and PhD Candidate working under the supervision of Dr. Jenna Smith-Turchyn at McMaster University. Holly's thesis project explores and evaluates the use of a physiotherapist-navigator role for individuals newly diagnosed with cancer. Holly's research promotes symptom assessment and management to be included in standard and routine cancer care in Canada to promote optimal physical function and improve the quality of life in individuals living with and beyond cancer. Holly is also a member of the executive of the Canadian Physiotherapy Association’s Oncology Division.
Ep34: Tackling the Pain Crisis in Canada: What Can Physiotherapy and Physiotherapists Do? A Discussion with Krissy Bell, Arthur Woznowski-Vu, and Nathan Augeard
Episode 34
Friday, December 6, 2024 • Duration 01:24:36
In this episode, we talked about
The past, present, and future of pain advocacy in Canada
The role of the professional association in supporting advocacy initiatives
The reception of physiotherapists' advocacy
The ripple effects of our pain advocacy efforts
Krissy Bell, CEO, Canadian Physiotherapy Association
Krissy Bell was appointed Chief Executive Officer of the Canadian Physiotherapy Association in March 2023. Since joining the association in 2019, she has been an essential member of the executive team, driving organizational growth over the past five years through various leadership roles. Krissy's career prior to her role at the association includes consulting for some of Canada's largest non-profits and charities, where she specialized in organizational problem-solving with a focus on business development and strategic planning. Before her consulting career, Krissy served for seven years as an Artillery Officer in the Canadian Forces, followed by diverse roles in business development, marketing, and event management within the sports sector. In addition to her professional experience, Krissy is actively involved in volunteer work, particularly in governance roles within the sports sector. She has served as a Board member for not-for-profit organizations for nearly twenty years, and is currently in her final term as Vice-Chair of Canada Snowboard, the national governing body for snowboarding in Canada. As a mother of two herself, Krissy is a passionate advocate for working mothers who champions women through the intentional development of working environments that support those who want to balance family life while advancing their careers.
Arthur Woznowski-Vu, PT, PhD
Arthur Woznowski-Vu has been a practicing physiotherapist since 2013. He has been teaching the Pain Management Strategies course at Concordia University since 2023, and has previous teaching experience at Université de Montréal and McGill University. Early in his career, Arthur focused on developing his physiotherapy expertise in chronic pain. He pursued several continuing education courses and then went on to complete a PhD in Rehab Science (focusing on chronic pain) at McGill University in 2023, receiving several prestigious scholarships (e.g., CIHR). As Chair of the Pain Science Division at the Canadian Physiotherapy Association (2021-2023), Arthur led several initiatives including a national physiotherapy advocacy in response to the Canadian Pain Task Force's Action Plan for Pain in Canada: . In 2023, Arthur opened The Chronic Pain Rehab Clinic as his solo physiotherapy private practice in Montreal: .
Ep33: The Common Sense in Physiotherapy That’s Not So Common in Practice: Deep Dive with Dr. Dave Walton
Episode 33
Monday, November 18, 2024 • Duration 01:05:11
In this episode, we talked about
Using the Assess, Predict, Treat framework to direct our patient care
The radar plot, triangulation, arms-length approach, and phenotyping
Correlation and causation; confounders, moderators, and mediators
The significance and practical tips of practicing trauma-assumed care
Professor Walton is a clinical researcher who focuses on the intersection between trauma, pain, physical and mental health. He uses both quantitative and qualitative approaches to explore these phenomena, and engage in critical theory around measurement of pain, wellness, and other clinical outcomes to enrich the rehabilitation and life experiences of people living with pain. He was one of the pioneers in Canada in the area of Pain Science in Physiotherapy, and was one of the co-founding members of the Pain Science Division of the Canadian Physiotherapy Association. He co-authored Musculoskeletal Pain---Assessment, Prediction, and Treatment, A Pragmatic Approach with Dr. James Elliott, which is the textbook we will be discussing in the episode.
Resources
Walton, D., & Elliott, J. (2020). Musculoskeletal Pain-Assessment, Prediction and Treatment. Jessica Kingsley Publishers.
Lee, J. Y., et al. (2020). Defining pain and interference recovery trajectories after acute non-catastrophic musculoskeletal trauma through growth mixture modeling. BMC Musculoskeletal Disorders, 21, 1-11.
Walton, D. M., Tremblay, P., Seo, W., Elliott, J. M., Ghodrati, M., May, C., & MacDermid, J. C. (2021). Effects of childhood trauma on pain‐related distress in adults. European Journal of Pain, 25(10), 2166-2176.
Elliott, J. M. et al. (2023). Biopsychosocial sequelae and recovery trajectories from whiplash injury following a motor vehicle collision. The Spine Journal, 23(7), 1028-1036
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form:
Ep32: All about ACL with Dr. Linda Truong (Part 2): Evidence-based, biopsychosocial ACL rehabilitation
Episode 32
Friday, November 8, 2024 • Duration 31:49
In this episode, we talked about
What is good ACL rehab?
What are the psychological, social, and contextual factors influencing ACL rehab outcomes, and what can we do about them?
What about ACL healing and Cross Bracing Protocol?
Current Focus: Postdoctoral research on innovative care models and the integration of digital health solutions for MSK pain management.
My work bridges the gap between clinical practice and digital health technology, aiming to improve patient outcomes through evidence-informed strategies. My clinical expertise lies in management and treatment of traumatic knee injuries (e.g., ACL injuries). I currently work part time at a local physiotherapy clinic and teach within the Master of Physical Therapy program at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver Canada.
Resources
Kotsifaki, R., Korakakis, V., King, E., Barbosa, O., Maree, D., Pantouveris, M., ... & Whiteley, R. (2023). Aspetar clinical practice guideline on rehabilitation after anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction. British journal of sports medicine, 57(9), 500-514.
Whittaker, J. L., Culvenor, A. G., Juhl, C. B., Berg, B., Bricca, A., Filbay, S. R., ... & Crossley, K. M. (2022). OPTIKNEE 2022: consensus recommendations to optimise knee health after traumatic knee injury to prevent osteoarthritis. British journal of sports medicine, 56(24), 1393-1405.
Current Focus: Postdoctoral research on innovative care models and the integration of digital health solutions for MSK pain management. My work bridges the gap between clinical practice and digital health technology, aiming to improve patient outcomes through evidence-informed strategies. My clinical expertise lies in management and treatment of traumatic knee injuries (e.g., ACL injuries). I currently work part time at a local physiotherapy clinic and teach within the Master of Physical Therapy program at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver Canada.
Resources
Owen, P., et al. (2023). Infographic. Primary surgery versus primary rehabilitation for treating anterior cruciate ligament injuries. British Journal of Sports Medicine, 57(13), 882-883.
Saueressig, T., et al. (2022). Primary surgery versus primary rehabilitation for treating anterior cruciate ligament injuries: a living systematic review and meta-analysis. British journal of sports medicine, 56(21), 1241-1251.
Beard, D. J., et al. & ACL SNNAP Study Group. (2024). Comparison of surgical or non-surgical management for non-acute anterior cruciate ligament injury: the ACL SNNAP RCT. Health technology assessment (Winchester, England), 28(27), 1.
Culvenor, A. G.,et al. (2022). Rehabilitation after anterior cruciate ligament and meniscal injuries: a best-evidence synthesis of systematic reviews for the OPTIKNEE consensus. British journal of sports medicine, 56(24), 1445-1453.
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form: https://forms.gle/UFfbUHBh8uKwSKgS8
Lakha, S. F., Hapidou, E. G., Robinson, J., & Mailis, A. (2022). Comparison of motor vehicle accident (MVA) survivors and non-MVA pain patients attending an interdisciplinary pain management program. Psychological Injury and Law, 15(4), 385-394.
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form: https://forms.gle/UFfbUHBh8uKwSKgS8
Instagram and LinkedIn @oncologyphysiotherapy @holly_edward
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form: https://forms.gle/UFfbUHBh8uKwSKgS8
Nathan Augeard has been a practicing physiotherapist since 2018, with a strong focus on chronic pain management. He is currently completing his PhD in Rehabilitation Science at McGill University, where his research focuses on improving pain management education in entry-level physiotherapy programs across Canada. Nathan has received several awards for his work, including the Ronald Melzack–Canadian Journal of Pain Paper of the Year Award. He has been actively involved in pain advocacy, serving as an executive member of the Pain Science Division of the Canadian Physiotherapy Association (2021-2023) and the current Director of the Working Group on Pain Advocacy. As the founder of Physio Connection (www.physioconnection.ca), a virtual physiotherapy service, Nathan is committed to enhancing access to evidence-based care for individuals living with chronic pain, especially in remote regions.
National action network that coordinates all pain-related organizations in Canada towards implementation of the Canadian Pain Task Force's Action Plan for Pain in Canada; and provides resources for public and professionals: https://www.paincanada.ca/
Campbell, F., et al (2024). Advancing Chronic Pain Care in Canada: History and Impact of the Canadian Pain Task Force. Canadian Journal of Pain, 2358332.
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form: https://forms.gle/UFfbUHBh8uKwSKgS8
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form: https://forms.gle/UFfbUHBh8uKwSKgS8
Beard, D. J., et al. (2022). Rehabilitation versus surgical reconstruction for non-acute anterior cruciate ligament injury (ACL SNNAP): a pragmatic randomised controlled trial. The Lancet, 400(10352), 605-615.
Frobell, R. B., et al. (2010). A randomized trial of treatment for acute anterior cruciate ligament tears. New England Journal of Medicine, 363(4), 331-342.
Reijman, M., et al. (2021). Early surgical reconstruction versus rehabilitation with elective delayed reconstruction for patients with anterior cruciate ligament rupture: COMPARE randomised controlled trial. Bmj, 372.
Whittaker, J. L., et al. (2022). OPTIKNEE 2022: consensus recommendations to optimise knee health after traumatic knee injury to prevent osteoarthritis. British journal of sports medicine, 56(24), 1393-1405.
Kamper, S. J. (2019). Interpreting outcomes 2—statistical significance and clinical meaningfulness: linking evidence to practice. journal of orthopaedic & sports physical therapy, 49(7), 559-560.
Kamper, S. J. (2019). Interpreting outcomes 3—clinical meaningfulness: linking evidence to practice. journal of orthopaedic & sports physical therapy, 49(9), 677-678.
Social media connection
X @LKTphysio
Instagram @lint.fit
Paincast is dedicated to bringing together researchers, clinicians, and students to discuss topics related to pain and physiotherapy. The primary purpose is to facilitate knowledge translation and critical thinking. Some episodes posit themselves as more educational than others, and some more opinionated than others. The listener is encouraged to listen critically. While there is an effort to incorporate research evidence, and the topics are always researched by the host, we recognize there is room for improvement and there is expertise in the community. As such, we invite constructive critique and that you inform us of any inadvertent errors, so that we may correct them. You may submit your feedback through this form: https://forms.gle/UFfbUHBh8uKwSKgS8
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