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First Trip to Milwaukee03 Nov 202600:41:45

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan and the fam head to Cream City! Yep, that's its real nickname: Milwaukee! They uncover delicious eats, beautiful art, and, most importantly, more Catholicism than you'd expect from this Midwestern enclave.

Things We Talked About:

Pabst Mansion

https://www.pabstmansion.com/ 

Bavarian Bierhaus

https://www.thebavarianbierhaus.com/ 

Sprecher Beer & Soda tour

https://sprecherbrewery.com/pages/brewery-tour?srsltid=AYCX9vLcqSQGL2Vs80796zNytYIXwmWc03ZTBWMe3QRF36_5qyP48Vrf 

Basilica of St Josephat

https://thebasilica.org/ 

Joan of Arc Chapel

https://www.marquette.edu/st-joan-of-arc-chapel/ 

Frozen Custard

https://www.milwaukeemag.com/frozen-custard-forever/ 

Mitchell Park Domes

https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/Parks/Explore/MitchellParkDomes 

Frank Lloyd Wright Houses on Burnham Block

https://franklloydwrighttrail.org/sites/frank-lloyd-wrights-burnham-block 

Milwaukee Museum of Art

https://mam.org/visit/burke-brise-soleil/ 

Theodore Roosevelt shooting site

https://www.trlibrary.com/tr/tr-shot 

Ryan's Mexico City recs

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GoQiQiO3pP9rdkicucQ3AgsF8-sTN6cayKaKkJTWUB8/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.sjub046kc7qq 

Walking on Graves: World Cemeteries with Mariana Enriquez20 Oct 202600:53:41

On this special Halloween episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan sits down with iconic Latin American horror writer Mariana Enriquez to discuss her travel book, Somebody Is Walking on Your Grave: My Cemetery Journeys, and her decades-long fascination with cemeteries, from the spooky to the historical.

Books by Mariana:

Somebody Is Walking on Your Grave: My Cemetery Journeys

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/761779/somebody-is-walking-on-your-grave-by-mariana-enriquez-translated-by-megan-mcdowell/

Things We Lost in the Fire: Four Graphic Stories

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/538696/things-we-lost-in-the-fire-four-graphic-stories-by-mariana-enriquez/

Our Share of Night

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/538697/our-share-of-night-by-mariana-enriquez/

Past Halloween Episodes:

Salem, MA and the Witch Trials

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/salem-ma-and-the-witch-trials/id1438098925?i=1000539992422

Haunted Places

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/haunted-places/id1438098925?i=1000584472529

The Last Stop:

Ryan: Rick Steves Casually Reviews Dangerous Fantasy Locations

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/rick-steves-casually-reviews-dangerous-fantasy-locations

Kiernan: C Is for Chupacabra

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948066831?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

Your First Trip To São Paulo06 Oct 202600:54:22

Ryan takes us on his first trip to São Paulo, Brazil sharing the restaurants, coffee shops, and museums, that make the city. From mortadella sandwiches at the Mercado Municipal and dinner at A Casa do Porco to MASP, the Pinacoteca, and the historic Centro, he breaks down the places worth building a first visit around. Along the way, he dives into São Paulo's food culture, modern art, history, and sprawling urban energy.

Coffee Food Museums: Art Museums: History Historic Centro The Last Stop:

Ryan: 100 Best Soups in the World, TasteAtlas
https://www.tasteatlas.com/best-rated-soups-in-the-world

Chicago with Children22 Sep 202600:45:33

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan and his family head to Chicago to explore playgrounds, kid-friendly museums, hot dogs, and Presidential Centers (okay, just one Presidential Center.) Plus, Pope Leo is a looker!

Things We Talked About:

First Trip to Chicago Episode

https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/first-trip-to-chicago/id1438098925?i=1000662387126

Devil Dawgs

https://www.devildawgs.com/ 

Williams Inn

https://www.williamsinnpizza.com/ 

Giordano's

https://giordanos.com/ 

Firecakes Donuts

https://firecakesdonuts.com/ 

Doughnut Vault

https://www.doughnutvault.com/ 

Maggie Daley Park

https://www.maggiedaleypark.com/things-to-do-see/play-garden 

Lincoln Park Zoo

https://www.lpzoo.org/ 

Field Museum

https://www.fieldmuseum.org/blog/sue-t-rex 

Mold-a-Rama

https://www.mold-a-rama.com/ 

Griffin Museum of Science and Industry

https://www.griffinmsi.org/ 

The U-Boat

https://www.griffinmsi.org/exhibits/u-505-submarine 

Swiss Jollyball

https://www.griffinmsi.org/exhibits/swiss-jolly-ball 

606 Trail

https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/606 

Bird Eyes Art on The 606

https://www.wpr.org/shows/to-the-best-of-our-knowledge/100-bird-eyes-are-watching-you 

Obama Presidential Center

https://obama.org/visit/ 

Pope Leo's Birthday Statue

https://www.americamagazine.org/news/2026/09/08/tallest-statue-pope-leo-peru/ 

Lucas Museum of Narrative Art

https://lucasmuseum.org/ 

Your First Trip To Rio de Janeiro08 Sep 202601:07:20

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Ryan heads to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil! He takes in the city's beaches, mountains, museums, historic sites, restaurants, natural wine bars, and more, with everything you need to know for your first trip to Rio.

Things We Talked About:

History Book

Brazil: A Biography
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0374280495

Attractions + Culture

Parque Bondinho Pão de Açúcar (Sugarloaf)
https://bondinho.com.br/

Christ the Redeemer + Corcovado Train
https://www.tremdocorcovado.rio/

Cais do Valongo
https://www.rio.rj.gov.br/web/muhcab/cais-do-valongo-patrimonio-mundial

Real Gabinete Português de Leitura
https://www.realgabinete.com.br/

Paço Imperial
http://www.pacoimperial.com.br/

Jardim Botânico do Rio de Janeiro
https://www.gov.br/jbrj/pt-br

Museums

MAM Rio
https://mam.rio/

Museu da República — Palácio do Catete
https://www.gov.br/museus/pt-br/museus-ibram/museu-da-republica

Museu Nacional
https://museunacional.ufrj.br/

Restaurants

Talho Café
https://talhocapixaba.com.br/

Casa do Chef Jota
https://www.casadochefjota.com.br/

Artigiano
https://restauranteartigiano.com/

Quinta da Henriqueta
https://www.instagram.com/quintadahenriqueta/

Haru Sushi Bar
https://haruichiban.com.br/

Mocellin Steak
https://www.mocellinsteak.com.br/

OCYÁ Ilha (Taking a Boat!)
https://ocya.com.br/

Wine

Virtuoso Vinho
https://www.instagram.com/virtuosovinho/

Casa Tão Longe, Tão Perto (Botafogo)
https://www.instagram.com/casatltp.botafogo/

Belisco Bar de Vinhos  (Botafogo)
https://www.instagram.com/belisco.rj/

Cocktails

Babbo Osteria
https://www.instagram.com/babboosteria/

ÊTTA Bar
https://www.instagram.com/etta_bar/

Coffee

Coffee Five
https://coffeefive.com.br/

LAB Café
https://www.instagram.com/labcafe.rio/

The Last Stop

Ryan: Dolly Parton + Great Smoky Mountains
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/knoxville-the-great-smoky-mountains/id1438098925?i=1000495407828

Kiernan: Rick Steves Purchases Edmonds Theater
https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/movies/rick-steves-purchases-edmonds-theater-moviehouse/

London, with Mom!25 Aug 202600:44:52

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan heads back to London for the first time post-COVID—with his mother! The two revisit old standbys, new attractions, and musicals, musicals, musicals!

Things We Talked About:

Harbor Country in Michigan

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/where-to-eat-harbor-country-southwestern-michigan?srsltid=AfmBOopMgZXXv0akMPuyVKPCwWrPAI2f7GlZ6apBb3rrjyT3faojo_j4 

Benjamin Pollock's Toy Shop

https://www.pollocks-coventgarden.co.uk/ 

Oliver

https://oliverthemusical.com/

Six

https://sixthemusical.com/london/ 

Operation Mincemeat

https://operationmincemeat.com/ 

Churchill War Rooms

https://www.iwm.org.uk/visits/churchill-war-rooms 

V&A East Storehouse

https://www.vam.ac.uk/east/storehouse/visit#things-to-see-and-do 

LIDAR podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-archeological-tech-is-rewriting-everything-we-know/id1237796990?i=1000784018446 

Big Bend Construction

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/17/us/big-bend-border-wall-texas-construction.html

New York State's Odyssey11 Aug 202600:42:13

This week on the pod, the boys talk about New York State's Odyssey, from Troy to Ithaca in about two hours. Also, Ryan interviews historian Daniel Koch about why so many upstate towns have classical names.

Things Talked About on the pod:

Land of the Oneidas: Central New York State and the Creation of America, from Prehistory to the Present

https://a.co/d/0i15zgNN

Classical Place-Names and the American Frontier

https://antigonejournal.com/2021/10/classical-place-names-america/

"Coming Into the Country" by John McPhee 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0374522871?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback    Greek cities of the South https://www.weirdsouth.com/post/greek-cities-of-the-south   Mr. Peanut Novel https://www.amazon.com/dp/0307454908?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback  

 

Traveling The Odyssey28 Jul 202600:52:33

This week on the pod, the boys talk The Odyssey, and Ryan speaks with Laura Coffey about her Homeric travels chronicled in her book, Enchanted Islands: Travels Through Myth & Magic, Love & Loss.

Things We Talked About:

Enchanted Islands: Travels Through Myth & Magic, Love & Loss
https://a.co/d/0e1iMY8Z

MAP - The Odyssey: A Mythical Journey through The Real World
https://a.co/d/0hOUJ8Cf

Laura Coffey on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/l_j_coffey/

 

Parkitecture14 Jul 202600:36:18

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan takes us through the history and artistry of Parkitecture—the architectural design of America's National Parks! Plus, Ryan researches the ideal number of days to go on vacation.

Things We Talked About in This Episode:

Colombia's Literary World Cup shirt

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/magical-realism-colombia-unveil-world-155300778.html 

Insight Guides

https://www.insightguides.com/ 

Parkitecture

https://www.nps.gov/subjects/architecture/parkitecture.htm 

President Truman tickling those rustic ivories

https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/photograph-records/63-1333 

"Park and Recreation Structures"

https://archive.org/details/parkrecreationst00good/page/n237/mode/2up 

Ideal Vacation Length

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10902-012-9345-3 

Conor Knighton is a Patriot

https://www.instagram.com/conorknighton/reel/DaYM4m6OtQQ/?hl=en 

Traveling The USA For The World Cup With NPR's Ava Berger30 Jun 202600:49:44

This week on the pod, the boys talk about their favorite subject: sports. The World Cup is captivating everyone, and the many visitors to the USA are soaking up all the Americana. Ryan chats with NPR's Ava Berger about what's captivating them.

Things We Talked About in This Episode:

https://www.nprillinois.org/2026-06-19/big-dogs-buc-ees-and-the-great-bbq-debate-world-cup-fans-discover-everyday-america

https://www.npr.org/2026/06/13/nx-s1-5856514/the-joys-of-reporting-on-3-teenagers-chasing-glory-in-the-world-series-of-birding

https://x.com/FreddyLA7

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/19/sport/video/merlin-the-duck-is-mexicos-unofficial-mascot-digvid-vrtc

The Foods of Lebanon with Anissa Helou16 Jun 202600:48:02

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan chats with one of our all-time favorite guests—food writer and researcher Anissa Helou. She's just published "Lebanon: Cooking the Foods of My Homeland" and spills the secrets of tabbouleh, falafel, skewered meat, hummus, labneh, and many other Lebanese specialities. 

Things We Talk About in This Episode:

Anissa's last interview with us

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925 

"Lebanon: Cooking the Foods of My Homeland"

https://bookshop.org/p/books/lebanon-cooking-the-foods-of-my-homeland-anissa-helou/77fff24da4bf58f4?ean=9780063334922&next=t 

Pope Leo at the Sagrada Familia

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/10/world/europe/pope-leo-sagrada-familia-barcelona-visit.html

Return Trip: Rocky Mountain National Park02 Jun 202600:49:41

This week we take a return trip to episode 122 of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast.

Kiernan talks about Rocky Mountain National Park ahead of the busy summer season. From majestic peaks to glassy lakes, RMNP is one of America's premiere parks with hikes and sights accessible to all age ranges and abilities. Plus, Ryan talks about Peru prep.

Rocky Mountain National Park

https://www.nps.gov/romo/index.htm 

The Stanley Hotel

https://www.stanleyhotel.com/ 

Grand Lake Lodge

https://www.grandlakelodge.com/ 

Allenpark Lodge

https://allensparklodgebnb.com/ 

Smokin' Dave's BBQ

https://smokindavesbbq.com/ 

The Donut Haus

http://www.donuthaus-estespark.com/ 

Falcon Guide

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Hikes-Rocky-Mountain-National/dp/1493046780/ref=sr_1_1?crid=LNBPCIWSMUAE&keywords=rocky+mountain+easy+day+hike&qid=1654717385&s=books&sprefix=rocky+mountain+easy+day+hi%2Cstripbooks%2C74&sr=1-1 

"The Motorcycle Diaries"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Motorcycle_Diaries_(film) 

The New Yorker's "Flight Attendants Fight Back"

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/05/30/flight-attendants-fighting-back

Standout Beaches19 May 202600:55:13

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," 2 of the palest podcast hosts in the business spotlight 6 amazing beaches across the US, Mexico, South America, and Southeast Asia.

Things We Talk About on Today's Episode:

Ocean City, Maryland
https://www.ococean.com/ 

Northern Shore MA Beaches – Crane Beach, Wingaersheek Beach, Plum Island, Coffins Beach
https://www.visit-massachusetts.com/northofbostoncapeann/beaches/ 

Barú, Colombia
https://colombia.travel/en/cartagena-de-indias/visit-beach-baru 

An Bang Beach, Vietnam
https://www.vietnamairlines.com/us/en/plan-book/travel/travel-guide/an-bang-beach-hoi-an 

Puerto Vallarta, Mexico
https://visitpuertovallarta.com/things-to-do/beaches 

Brighton, England
https://www.visitbrighton.com/things-to-do/attractions/beachfront 

Pope Leo's Peru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziN1QrXh5vs 

Harvard's ties to slavery
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/university-news/harvard-enslaved-people-database-descendants 

Bronx Zoo05 May 202600:45:34

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan covers the history and highlights of the Bronx Zoo. We also touch on Scientology, Mitt Romney, callings to the priesthood, and Colombia's biodiversity.

Things We Talk About on Today's Episode:

Little Red Lighthouse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Red_Lighthouse 

Bronx Zoo

https://bronxzoo.com/ 

William Temple Hornaday and the Bison

https://siarchives.si.edu/history/featured-topics/stories/william-temple-hornaday-saving-american-bison 

The Atlantic's "Best Free Restaurant Bread in America" by Caity Weaver

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/05/best-free-restaurant-bread-america/686582/ 

Trump's photo added to US passports

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exclusive-state-department-introduces-new-us-passports-celebrating-america250 

Spain's Andalusian Costa del Sol21 Apr 202600:38:09

This week on Out Of Office, Ryan and Kiernan explore Spain's Costa del Sol, from Málaga's layered history of Roman and Moorish influence to Marbella's relaxed, sun-soaked Old Town. It's a quick dive into how this region became a global tourism hotspot, blending culture, beaches, and just the right amount of indulgence.

Croatia's Plitvice Lakes National Park08 Apr 202600:31:47

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan takes us to one of Europe's greatest natural treasures: Plitvice Lake National Park in Croatia. Beautiful ice-blue lakes and gorgeous waterfalls are lined with easy-to-navigate boardwalks, and hiking trails traverse the whole park. Plus, Ryan isn't moving to Austria as early as we thought!

Things We Talked About in Today's Episode:

Rick Steves is on tour!

https://www.ricksteves.com/about-rick/wheres-rick 

Rick Steves interview

https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/rick-steves-is-back-for-episode-200/id1438098925?i=1000704427247 

Plitvice Lakes National Park

https://np-plitvicka-jezera.hr/en/ 

Plitvice Hikes

https://www.afar.com/magazine/visiting-plitvice-lakes-national-park-in-croatia 

Titanic drone show

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tv/video-3629983/Video-Drone-recreates-Titanics-historic-Belfast-departure.html 

Map of art and cultural destruction in Iran

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2026/03/25/we-are-trying-to-preserve-the-memory-of-our-people-archaeologists-create-map-tracking-damage-to-iran-heritage-sites 

National Park Match Making24 Mar 202600:37:15

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan recommends national parks for you to visit this summer, based on your preferences. Looking for zero crowds? Yearning for high-adrenaline action? Searching for variety? KPS unleashes his NPS knowledge.

Things we talked about in today's podcast:

Kiernan on NPR

https://www.wgbh.org/podcasts/the-culture-show/march-10-2026-shaina-taub-on-suffs-a-secret-boston-st-patricks-day-and-fabiola-mendez 

National Parks of the Pacific Northwest

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/national-parks-of-the-pacific-northwest/id1438098925?i=1000442664674 

State Parks with Peter Kujawinski 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/id1438098925?i=1000445675724 

Things from up children's noses

https://apps.bostonglobe.com/2026/03/opinion/ideas/graphics/lost-found/ 

Burning PA Town

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/centralia-pennsylvania-rebirth

 

Sheltering In Place in Puerto Vallarta10 Mar 202600:49:02

On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan talks about sheltering in place in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico during the 2026 Jalisco Operation.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-3608909/Tourist-stranded-Mexico-El-Mencho-operation.html

Return Trip: Skiing for the Skeptical24 Feb 202600:49:46

This week, as Kiernan is skiing in real life and Ryan is freshly back from Puerto Vallarta, Out of Office: A Travel Podcast takes a return trip. The boys talk about their holiday breaks and discuss why ski trips are well worth the expense and the steep learning curve. Plus, Ryan has a onesie.

Here's what we cover in this episode:

NYT on European Skiing
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/19/travel/europe-skiing-budget.html

Beaver Creek
https://www.beavercreek.com/

Cannon Mountain in New Hampshire
https://www.cannonmt.com/tickets

Most Memorable Food Experiences10 Feb 202600:40:27

This week on the pod, the boys talk about their favorite food experiences, from Peru to Dubai, with a little Eastern Shore of Maryland thrown in. Plus, learn which European cities are the most densely packed and perfect for traveling on foot.

LAST STOP:

Ryan: https://www.travelawaits.com/3021526/most-walkable-cities-in-europe-from-new-study/

Kiernan: https://www.datarescueproject.org/save-our-signs-the-peoples-archive/

New York Times Editor Stephen Hiltner on the "52 Places to Go in 2026"27 Jan 202600:51:14

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan chats with Stephen Hiltner, the New York Times editor in charge of this year's "52 Places to Go in 2026." Stephen walks us through this year's top picks and themes.

Here's what we cover in this episode:

"52 Places to Go in 2026"
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/travel/places-to-travel-destinations-2026.html 

"Top 10 Reader Favorites from our '52 Places to Go' List"
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/travel/places-to-go-readers-picks.html 

Your First Trip To Madrid13 Jan 202600:54:18

Ryan's guide to a perfect Madrid weekend, whether Salvador Dalí is your thing or not. Museums, parks, palaces, and the restaurants you should avoid, with plenty of great food instead.

Eat Here:

https://www.instagram.com/gotawine/

https://www.instagram.com/marcelle_madrid/

Christmas Spectacular Eight22 Dec 202500:46:11

 On this year's Christmas Spectacular episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan hang up their socks and trade merry greetings. They discuss the official death of the Ugly Ornament Competition, the history of British Christmas crackers (no, they're not crackers), and their favorite Christmas tunes (including a Ryan original).. And for the Anglophiles out there, the boys sing the praises of one of the US's best importers of British goods, happily located right in Acton, MA. 

Things we talked about in today's podcast:

The Bee's Knees British Imports
https://www.thebeeskneesbritishimports.com/ 

V&A Museum history of Christmas crackers
https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-christmas-cracker?srsltid=AfmBOopqIG_oE9tXOOtQdsUnnRHXaOH8bPLkOiNC52C9XAlXv0hzY_Kf 

"Have Yourself an Out of Office Christmas"
https://www.mureka.ai/song-detail/WX3PuAjGnrbg8mx41mThs2?is_from_share=1 

"Scrooge" from the Muppets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULaNvmjZWxg  

Christmas Book Gift Recommendations 202502 Dec 202500:36:17

This week, The Boys unwrap their favorite book picks for the holiday season — from globe-trotting history to wild presidential tales to the secret life of gas stations in the American South. They also dig into new national park surcharges for foreign visitors. 

The Books:

"Lafayette in the Somewhat United States" by Sarah Vowell — https://www.amazon.com/Lafayette-Somewhat-United-States-Vowell/dp/0399573100 Amazon+1

"Bolívar: American Liberator" by Marie Arana — https://www.amazon.com/Bol%C3%ADvar-American-Liberator-Marie-Arana/dp/006073509X

"The Magician" by Colm Tóibín — https://www.amazon.com/Magician-Novel-Colm-T%C3%B3ib%C3%ADn/dp/0307952879

"Wilderness Warrior: TR and the Crusade for America" by Douglas Brinkley — https://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Warrior-Crusade-American-Brinkley/dp/0066210372

"Rightful Heritage: FDR and the Land for America" by Douglas Brinkley — https://www.amazon.com/Rightful-Heritage-America-Douglas-Brinkley/dp/0812980040

"Dead Presidents: An American Adventure into the Strange Deaths and Surprising Afterlives of Our Nation's Leaders" by Brady Carlson — https://www.amazon.com/Dead-Presidents-American-Surprising-Leaders/dp/1631493952

Plymouth and the Mayflower II18 Nov 202500:55:17

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan talks to Richard Stone, author of "Project Mayflower."

Things we discussed on today's episode:

"Project Mayflower" book

https://bookshop.org/p/books/project-mayflower-building-and-sailing-a-seventeenth-century-replica-richard-a-stone/a3f94ee44f9babb4?ean=9781493084364&next=t&next=t&affiliate=books 

Plimoth Patuxet Museums

https://plimoth.org/ 

Plymouth Rock

https://seeplymouth.com/listing/plymouth-rock/ 

Pilgrim Hall Museum

https://www.pilgrimhall.org/ 

Sail250

https://www.sailboston.com/sail250/ 

Green-Wood Cemetery New Yorker article

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/06/09/green-wood-cemeterys-living-dead  

Our Favorite Museum Heists04 Nov 202500:31:45

This week on the pod, the boys dive into their favorite museum heists, from Boston to Bogotá.

Cruising Life with Royal Caribbean CEO Richard Fain21 Oct 202500:58:00

On this week's episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast." Kiernan talks to Richard Fain who served as CEO of Royal Caribbean for 33 years. Richard and his team oversaw—and essentially invented—the evolution of the cruise ship industry from a niche business to a global behemoth. His new book "Delivering the WOW" gives the behind the scenes story, with tons of great tidbits (how do you build an ice rink on a ship?) and business advice.  

Things We Talk About on Today's Episode

"Delivering the WOW"
https://www.deliveringthewow.com/ 

Richard Fain
https://www.deliveringthewow.com/about-richard 

Adrian McKinty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_McKinty

Black Rabbit
https://www.netflix.com/title/81630027 

Crazy Horse Memorial
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/10/style/a-hike-to-crazy-horse-stirs-patriotism-and-doubt.html

Theodore Roosevelt Sites07 Oct 202500:43:44

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys discuss historic homes and parks related to Kiernan's favorite President, Theodore Roosevelt. Brace yourselves for high adventure—assassins, deadly predators, and poor eyesight.

Things we discussed on today's episode:

Theodore Roosevelt Birthplace

https://www.nps.gov/thrb/index.htm 

American Museum of Natural History

https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/theodore-roosevelt-memorial/roosevelt-rotunda 

Sagamore Hill

https://www.nps.gov/sahi/index.htm 

TR Gravesite

https://www.nps.gov/thingstodo/visit-the-roosevelt-gravesite-at-young-s-cemetery.htm

Theodore Roosevelt National Park

https://www.nps.gov/thro/index.htm 

Upcoming Presidential Library 

https://www.trlibrary.com 

Theodore Roosevelt Island

https://www.nps.gov/this/index.htm 

Architectural Digest Detroit

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/detroit-is-booming-and-its-a-must-visit-for-design-lovers 

6 Lesser Known Museums We Love23 Sep 202500:56:09

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan travel the world over to share our favorite obscure museums. From Kuala Lumpur to Hartford, CT, we've got some surprises on this one.

Things we talk about on this week's episode:

Wadsworth Athenaeum

https://www.thewadsworth.org/ 

Button Museum

https://buttonmuseum.org/ 

Museo de Arte Contemporáneo de Bogotá (MAC)

https://museu.ms/museum/details/17154/museo-de-arte-contemporaneo-de-bogota 

Islamic Arts Museum

https://iamm.org.my/ 

Museum of Socialist Art

https://www.artandobject.com/articles/museum-socialist-art-bulgarias-de-facto-museum-communist-history 

Museum of Apiculture  

https://mro.si/en/musem-of-apiculture 

NYC School Architecture

https://www.untappedcities.com/cbj-snyder-shools/?ref=daily-newsletter 

Detroit 20109 Sep 202500:50:18

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan loads up the family and heads to sunny Detroit. On our previous Detroit episode (Epi 153), we focused on the art and major tourist attractions, and this time around we hit up Detroit's surprisingly lovely nature (read: Belle Isle) and amazing local eats (read: Dearborn, MI.)

Things we talk about on this week's episode:

Saint Sebastian is a gay icon

https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/stories/lgbt-artwork-marks-saint-sebastian-feast-day 

Basilica of Saint Sebastian Outside the Walls

https://www.turismoroma.it/en/places/basilica-san-sebastiano-outside-walls 

Detroit 101

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/detroit-101/id1438098925?i=1000617683551

Detroit Riverfront

https://www.detroitriverfront.org/ 

Cullen Family Carousel

https://www.detroitriverfront.org/plan-your-visit/things-to-do/cullen-family-carousel-seasonal 

Belle Isle

https://www.belleisleconservancy.org/ 

Livingstone Memorial Lighthouse

http://detroithistorical.org/learn/online-research/encyclopedia-of-detroit/livingstone-memorial-lighthouse 

The Gothic Room

https://www.detroithistorical.org/exhibitions/gothic-room 

James Scott Memorial Fountain

https://historicdetroit.org/buildings/james-scott-memorial-fountain 

Halal Food Guru

https://www.tiktok.com/@halalfoodguru  

Altayeb

https://www.yelp.com/biz/altayeb-of-dearborn-dearborn  

Pupuseria

https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Salvadoran&find_loc=Detroit%2C+MI 

Leila

https://www.leiladetroit.com/ 

Detroit style pizza

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/best-pizza-restaurants-detroit?srsltid=AfmBOooztxdpsnekr53gxRIgkbl654hgGtOqjTYgjNCaX1QnyzGizSbO  

Boston's Detroit Pizza Co

https://www.dpcboston.com/s/order#most-popular 

Pie Sci

https://piescipizza.com/ 

Ryan can't go to Singapore

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz60z98nzx7o 

Guatapé, Colombia26 Aug 202500:39:01

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us to Guatapé, Colombia, land of big rocks and little zócalos, with an interview with tour guide Oscar Lujan. Plus, Kiernan takes us back to London for a preview of The Darkest Hour: The Musical.

Things we talk about on this week's episode:

Oscar:
https://www.instagram.com/medellinpeaks/

Ryan:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DNbi4w4pQzI/?igsh=MWR0ZnczM2doczBxeg%3D%3D

Kiernan:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/british-history-royals-rebels-and-romantics/id1516524780 

 

Festivals All Over The World12 Aug 202501:07:40

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan chats with Daniel Stables, the author of the new book "Fiesta", which chronicles Daniel's journey around the world attending parties, shindigs, ceremonies, gatherings, jamborees, and other alluring functions!

Things we talk about on this week's episode:

"Fiesta" by Daniel Stables

https://www.iconbooks.com/ib-title/fiesta/ 

Garcia Marquez laid to rest

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36355670 

Benjamin Pollock's Toy Shop

https://www.pollocks-coventgarden.co.uk/ 

Traveling with Children Part 129 Jul 202501:00:53

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," a listener request! Kiernan offers tips, tricks, watch-outs, and must-dos when traveling with children. From gear to diversionary tactics, this is a must-listen for wanderlusty parents. 

Things we talk about on this week's episode:

Anker external batteries

https://www.anker.com/collections/power-banks

Puro headphones

https://purosound.com/

"America, América"

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/747326/america-america-by-greg-grandin/ 

"Fiesta" by Daniel Stables

https://www.iconbooks.com/ib-title/fiesta/ 

Charlie's Place

https://lnk.to/CharliesPlace-OutofOffice

 

Souvenirs (Return Trip to Episode #8)15 Jul 202500:50:40

Ryan has been laid low with an exotic Mexican stomach bug, so this week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys are revisiting an old favorite: a friendly chat about how to pick souvenirs that will powerfully evoke memories without powerfully draining your bank account. This one is a tried and true classic from the archive.

Wish Ryan a steady recover with a 5-star review!

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925  

First Trip to Rome (Part 2)01 Jul 202500:46:40

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys continue their discussion of must-see museums, churches, and curiosities in Rome. Plus, you'll learn why cappuccinos are called that—and how they relate to rooms decorated with bones!

Things We Talked About on Today's Episode:

National Museum of Rome

https://www.rome-museum.com/national-roman-museum.php 

Capitoline Museums 

http://museicapitolini.org/en/node 

Capuchin Crypt

https://museoecriptacappuccini.it/en/the-crypt/ 

Cat Ruins

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/torre-argentina-roman-cat-sanctuary 

Bocca della Verita

https://www.rome.net/mouth-of-truth 

Ostia Antica

https://www.ostia-antica.org/ 

Trastevere

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trastevere 

Where to Travel Now…While You Can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b07NlIkKDc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5PAA3WIWtg

New Giant Marble Head!

https://x.com/gualtierieurope/status/1936334736198144396 

 

Your First Trip To Paris17 Jun 202501:03:35

Kiernan takes us to the City of Lights—Paris!—for a magical trip from French Impressionists to the gargoyles of Notre Dame. Plus, how to read stained glass like comic books and take home some museum-quality taxidermy. And Ryan reflects on the passing of Edmund White.

Your First Trip To Paris17 Jun 202501:03:35

Kiernan takes us to the City of Lights—Paris!—for a magical trip from French Impressionists to the gargoyles of Notre Dame. Plus, how to read stained glass like comic books and take home some museum-quality taxidermy. And Ryan reflects on the passing of Edmund White.

Last-Min Summer Trip Planning03 Jun 202500:38:44

This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys share their insider knowledge on how to lock down fantastic trips and deals even if you're a little late to the party. Hidden National Parks, secret city hideaways, and booking schemes await!

Things We Talked About on Today's Episode:

Julie Klausner

https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/how-was-your-week/ 

Boop the Musical

https://boopthemusical.com/ 

North Cascades

https://www.nps.gov/noca/index.htm 

Isle Royale

https://www.nps.gov/isro/index.htm 

Great Sand Dunes

https://www.nps.gov/grsa/index.htm 

Mesa Verde

https://www.nps.gov/meve/index.htm 

Badlands

https://www.nps.gov/badl/index.htm 

Rapid City Sculptor episode

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/city-of-presidents-with-james-van-nuys/id1438098925?i=1000451011128 

Canyonlands

https://www.nps.gov/cany/index.htm 

Bear Ears National Monument

https://www.blm.gov/visit/bears-ears-national-monument 

Great State Parks episode

https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-43-state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/ 

Great State Parks NYT article

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/21/travel/state-parks-visit-colorado-nc-florida.html  

Google Flights "Explore" function

https://www.google.com/travel/explore 

Skyscanner "Explore Everywhere" function

https://www.skyscanner.com/transport/flights-from/us/?adultsv2=1&cabinclass=economy&childrenv2=&ref=home&rtn=1&preferdirects=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&inboundaltsenabled=false&oym=2507&iym=2507 

AirBNB Experiences announcement

https://news.airbnb.com/airbnb-2025-summer-release/ 

The Walker Library of the History of Human Imagination

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_the_History_of_Human_Imagination 

Romania 10120 May 202501:02:30

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us to Romania—visiting Bucharest, Brașov, and Cluj-Napoca. Expect puppets, dictator mansions, and steampunk exhibits along the way.

Things We Talked About In Today's Episode: 

- Ceaușescu Mansion 

https://timharford.com/2024/04/cautionary-tales-the-rise-and-fall-of-a-megalomaniac/

- Palace of the Parliament

- "Dimitrie Gusti" National Village Museum

- Carturesti Verona 

- The Puck Puppet Theater   https://teatrulpuck.ro/?lang=en @tomiksz13 the puppeteer  https://www.instagram.com/tomiksz13?
First Trip to Rome (Part 1)06 May 202501:15:25

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys treat the ancient aqueducts like a flume ride and splash right into Rome! Kiernan and Ryan talk Emperors, SPQR, why columns make the best decor, plus just a touch of new Pope speculation.

Our episode on Vatican City:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-197-vatican-city/

Things We Talked About on Today's Episode:

"The Fall of Rome" podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fall-of-rome-podcast/id1141563910

"SPQR" by Mary Beard

https://a.co/d/71DS93Z 

"Roman Holiday"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rL5QxXF0g8 

Colosseum

https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-colosseum/ 

Forum

https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-roman-forum/ 

Palatine Hill

https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-palatine/ 

Pantheon

https://www.pantheonroma.com/home-eng/

Borghese Gallery

https://galleriaborghese.beniculturali.it/en/ 

Bath of Diocletian

https://museonazionaleromano.beniculturali.it/en/baths-of-diocletian/ 

Trevi Fountain

https://www.blacktomato.com/us/inspirations/the-history-of-romes-trevi-fountain/ 

Spanish Steps

https://romesite.com/spanish-steps.html 

Catacombs of Saint Sebastian

https://www.catacombe.org/ 

Lego Trevi Fountain

https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/trevi-fountain-21062 

Rick Steves is BACK for Episode 200!22 Apr 202500:54:40

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," the boys celebrate the pod's 200th episode with travel icon Rick Steves! Kiernan chats with Rick about his latest book "On the Hippie Trail: Istanbul to Kathmandu and the Making of a Travel Writer" and about how keeping a journal can make one into a keener observer of culture. 

Rick's philosophy of travel is that if you haven't come back changed, you didn't do it right. This interview will leave you changed.

Plus, a new artistic saint!

Things we talked about in today's podcast:

Rick Steves' Europe

https://www.ricksteves.com/ 

Free scans of every page of Rick's journal

https://www.ricksteves.com/about-rick/original-hippie-trail-journal 

Saint Gaudi!

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/world/europe/antoni-gaudi-architect-saint.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare 

Wanna help us celebrate 200? Leave a review (please)!

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925 

And a final note from Ryan and Kiernan: RIP POPE FRANCIS!

Day Tripping from Santiago, Chile08 Apr 202500:47:42

On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us on three day trips from Santiago, Chile. First is Valparaíso, a coastal city known for its hills, historic funiculars, and street art. Then on to Valle de Colchagua, where wine tastings and a standout meal at Fuegos de Apalta make for a vino day. Finally, head to the Andes to soak in the mineral pools at Termas Valle de Colina. Plus, Kiernan talks about his old friend Corn Husker 55!

Leave us a 5 Star Review!
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925

Santiago Episode:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-194-santiago-chile/

The Hills:
https://www.moon.com/travel/trip-ideas/the-hills-of-valparaiso-chile/

Restaurants: La Concepción & La Caperucita y el Lobo

https://museobaburizza.cl/en/home/

Our wine tour provider:
https://colchaguawinetours.com/

Krakow, Poland25 Mar 202500:47:59

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys head to Krakow, the intellectual heart of Poland. The city is home to beautiful churches, endless Pope John Paul II memorabilia, one of the oldest universities in the world (Copernicus attended), and moving remembrances of Jewish citizens killed in the Holocaust. Plus, a quick detour to the historic Wieliczka Salt Mine.

Things We Talked About on Today's Episode:

Schengen Area:
https://dailypassport.com/what-is-the-schengen-area/

Remains of the Ghetto wall
https://g.co/kgs/ammrVVz

Oskar Schindler's Enamel Factory
https://muzeumkrakowa.pl/en/branches/oskar-schindlers-enamel-factory

MOCAK
https://en.mocak.pl/

https://www.instagram.com/prosciuttko_/?hl=en


Vatican City11 Mar 202501:15:17

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys Catholic out hard. In celebration of Lent, "Conclave," and a Catholic Jubilee Year, Kiernan talks us through the top sites to see in Vatican City. Rome is expecting 32M visitors this year, and now each and every one can listen to Out of Office!

Things We Talked About on Today's Episode:

Jubilee 2025

https://www.usccb.org/jubilee2025 

Holy Doors

https://www.ewtnvatican.com/articles/5-holy-doors-what-every-catholic-should-know-ahead-of-jubilee-2025-4075 

Saint Peter's

https://www.basilicasanpietro.va/en/ 

Pope John XXIII

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/martyrs-miracles-and-the-stuff-of-making-saints/ 

Vatican II

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2022-10/vatican-ii-council-60th-anniversary-video-history-background.html 

Papal Altar and Canopy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Baldachin 

Chair of Saint Peter

https://www.ncregister.com/cna/historic-chair-of-st-peter-on-public-display-in-vatican-basilica-for-first-time-in-150-years 

Tomb of Saint Peter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter%27s_tomb 

Saint Peter Statue

https://stpetersbasilica.info/Statues/StPeter/StPeter.htm 

La Pieta

https://fa-inkwell.org/1039/arts/artists-review-la-pieta-one-of-michelangelos-earliest-works/ 

Vatican Museums

https://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en.html 

Laocoon and his Sons

https://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en/collezioni/musei/museo-pio-clementino/Cortile-Ottagono/laocoonte.html 

Gallery of the Candelabra

https://www.museivaticani.va/content/museivaticani/en/collezioni/musei/museo-pio-clementino/Galleria-dei-Candelabri/galleria-dei-candelabri.html 

"School of Athens"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_School_of_Athens 

Sistine Chapel "In Our Time" episode

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0015vh8 

Sistine Chapel pre-reading

https://www.througheternity.com/en/blog/art/michelangelo-last-judgment-sistine-chapel-vatican.html 

Omio

https://www.omio.com/ 

Jenny Nicholson on the Star Wars Hotel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0CpOYZZZW4 

Berlin Museums25 Feb 202500:52:18

On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan offers an overview of Berlin's museums, highlighting a few of his favorites, from the story of Hitler's rise and fall in an underground bunker to contemporary art in an old train station. Plus, Kiernan talks about Boston.

NYT Editor Stephen Hiltner on the "52 Places to Go in 2025"11 Feb 202500:47:44

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan chats with Stephen Hiltner, the New York Times editor in charge of this year's "52 Places to Go in 2025." Stephen talks about some highlights from this year's selections, plus a few spots that didn't quite make the cut.

Here's what we cover in this episode:

"52 Places to Go in 2025"

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/travel/places-to-travel-destinations-2025.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Santiago, Chile28 Jan 202500:53:39

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us south to Santiago, Chile, where he rides up a funicular and down a cable car to see the Virgin Mary. Plus, eating barnacles and flying out of Kafka Airport.

The Month In Digital (Ryan's Marketing Newsletter):
https://monthindigital.substack.com/

Kafka Airport:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DC2AdoIM1DD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Restaurants: 

Peumayén Ancestral Food
Sanguchería Ciudad Vieja
The Singular Santiago's Rooftop
Bocanáriz
Boragó

 

Skiing for the Skeptical14 Jan 202500:49:46

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys talk about their holiday breaks and discuss why ski trips are well-worth the expense and steep learning curve. Plus, Ryan has a onesie!

Here's what we cover in this episode:

NYT on European Skiing

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/19/travel/europe-skiing-budget.html 

Beaver Creek

https://www.beavercreek.com/ 

Cannon Mountain in New Hampshire

https://www.cannonmt.com/tickets 

Christmas Spectacular Seven17 Dec 202400:45:43

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys celebrate the season with discussions of the Immaculate Conception (it's not what Ryan thinks), an idea for holiday film commentaries yet to come, and the LAST Ugly Ornament contest. And another year passes without seeing pictures of the Nativity Ryan's father painstakingly carved from a single block of wood.

Here's what we cover in this episode:
Debora

https://www.instagram.com/deborarest/?hl=en 

 

LATAM 50 Best Restaurants

https://www.theworlds50best.com/latinamerica/en/ 

 

"White Christmas" movie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Christmas_(film) 

 

Day of the Little Candles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Little_Candles 

 

Reba McEntire "Christmas Guest"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57fS-9kGZqU 

 

Jimmy Fallon "Chipmunks and Chestnuts"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CChx2qVNl0 

 

Kiernan's Ugly Ornament for Ryan

https://johnderian.com/products/mushroom-person-ornament?srsltid=AfmBOoqJ58ABMzRZ1iiMibeH0zVvGJn3ZumEEEhUAHIicz2ZfBsFIk4T 

 

Ryan's Ugly Ornament for Kiernan

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1814317312/bespoke-funny-prank-xmaschristmas?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=ugly+ornament&ref=sr_gallery-1-9&pro=1&pop=1&content_source=fde4cc23f7c035e7d3ac14a1cd6a7a4bf6a9e3ed%253A1814317312&search_preloaded_img=1&organic_search_click=1 

 

Monterrey, Mexico03 Dec 202400:54:21

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan recaps his recent trip to Monterrey, Mexico, covering highlights from the scenic River Walk to an interactive steel museum. He also shares a wild story about a run-in with a bribery-seeking cop in Puerto Vallarta.

Here's what we cover in this episode:

https://www.travelandleisure.com/best-places-to-go-2025-8739580

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