On this episode of "Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan interviews one of the showβs most interesting guests ever: opera and Italian cuisine expert Fred Plotkin. Decades ago, Fred published a breakout hit for intrepid eaters: his book βItaly for the Gourmet Traveler.β During COVID, he collaborated with frequent βOut of Officeβ guest Rick Steves on a new update, which the duo published in 2023 as βItaly for Food Lovers.β Fredβs knowledge proved so encyclopedic, this will be Part 1 of 2!
Note: Some SFX are missing from the top of the show, which explains the weird pauses. Weβll talk about it on the next episode.Β
Things we talk about in this weekβs episode:
Willy Wonka Immersive Experience
https://www.salon.com/2024/03/02/fyre-festival-20-everything-to-know-about-the-less-than-stellar-willy-wonka-immersive-experience/Β
βItaly for Food Loversβ
https://store.ricksteves.com/shop/p/italy-for-food-lovers
Fred Plotkin biography
https://www.wqxr.org/people/fred-plotkin/Β
βThe Myth of Your Phoneβs Airplane Modeβ
https://qz.com/phone-airplane-mode-myth-1851286214Β
βPod Save the Worldβ CPAC Doubles Down on Creepy Autocrats
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cpac-doubles-down-on-creepy-autocrats/id1200016351?i=1000647359648Β