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Out and Back

Out and Back

Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter

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Frequency: 1 episode/7d. Total Eps: 39

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Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson are professional marathoners chasing fast times and big goals on the roads. Training out of Flagstaff, Arizona, they’ve got plenty of stories from the grind of big mileage, the chaos of race travel, the highs and lows of racing on the world stage and the random stuff that happens between workouts. With a passion for storytelling, running culture, and building community, Rory and Jacob bring listeners behind the scenes of the marathon lifestyle. Training talk with a few detours.
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#29 Phil Sesemann - London Marathon Training, Linking up with Alex Yee and Emile Cairess, Achieving the Olympic Dream + a NYC Half Marathon Debrief from Jacob and Rory

Season 1 · Episode 29

dimanche 22 mars 2026Duration 01:21:11

In this two-part episode, Rory and Jacob recap the NYC United Airlines Half Marathon, breaking down their race performances, key takeaways, and how it impacts their build toward the Boston Marathon.

Then, we’re joined by elite British marathoner and Olympian Dr. Phil Sesemann. Phil has already run 2:07 twice in 2025 and is aiming for a top 10 finish at the London Marathon for the 4th time in his career.

In this conversation, we dive into elite marathon training, periodization, race strategy, and what it takes to perform at the highest level of the sport. Phil shares insights on marathon preparation, pacing tactics, and how he balances professional running with family life.

We also go behind the scenes of training with some of the best athletes in the world, including Olympic gold medalist Alex Yee and 2:06 marathoner Emile Cairess, who finished 4th at the Olympic Marathon.

If you’re interested in marathon training, Boston Marathon prep, elite running insights, or learning how the pros approach race day, this episode is packed with value.

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#28 Conner Mantz - Lessons from Injury, Boston Build, Training Insights

Season 1 · Episode 28

dimanche 15 mars 2026Duration 01:04:11

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Today we are joined by American Record Holder Conner Mantz. We talk about the lessons he has learned from the biggest injury in his career, his Boston build up so far, and about his teammates and training environment with coaching legend Ed Eyestone in Provo, UT.

#19 - Canadian Record, Rory runs 59:49 at the Houston Half Marathon

Season 1 · Episode 19

mardi 13 janvier 2026Duration 42:33

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In this episode of the Out and Back podcast, Rory Linkletter shares his experience of breaking the Canadian half marathon record. He discusses the immediate aftermath of the race, including drug testing and media obligations, and reflects on the race dynamics, training strategies, and the importance of competition. Rory emphasizes the significance of community support in running and shares his future goals and plans for upcoming races. The conversation highlights the impact of young athletes in the sport and the importance of maintaining a healthy mindset in training and competition.

#18 - Houston Marathon Preview, What's in & What's out for 2026

Season 1 · Episode 18

jeudi 8 janvier 2026Duration 57:01

#17 JP Flavin - Marathon Project Champion, Brooks Hansons Distance Project, in collaboration with John Gay from the Shakeout Podcast

Season 1 · Episode 17

vendredi 2 janvier 2026Duration 45:05

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We're kicking off 2026 with a special New Year's Day episode featuring guest host John Gay from the Shakeout Podcast for a conversation with recently crowned The Marathon Project champion JP Flavin, fresh off his win and new lifetime best of 2:09:18. The pros-only event was held in Chandler, Arizona last week.

Flavin, a member of the Michigan-based Brooks Hansons Original Distance Project team, discusses his build up for his most recent event and his year-over-year progression in the marathon, with a personal best in each of his last five showings. In addition, JP talks about his decision to move up to the event right out of university, and whether other young distance runners should consider making the jump earlier in their careers. The crew also talks training, fuelling and marathon peaking, while laying out the biggest storylines heading into the new year.

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#16 Between Reps with Chris - Training Updates, most Overrated, Underrated, and Misunderstood things in Running, How much Volume is too much?

Season 1 · Episode 16

dimanche 21 décembre 2025Duration 01:09:53

Join Jacob, Rory, and Chris as they dive into a good ole banter style episode that feels like a run with friends. From debating the most overrated running trends to sharing outrageous hot takes, this episode is packed with laughs and unexpected insights. Don't miss out on the fun—tune in and let us know if you agree with our spicy opinions! 

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#15 Joe Whelan - 6 marathons in 1 year, 2:09 at CIM

Season 1 · Episode 15

dimanche 14 décembre 2025Duration 43:56

#14 Johannes Motschmann - 140 mile weeks, 2:10 Marathon, Best Training Camps

Season 1 · Episode 14

mardi 9 décembre 2025Duration 57:46

#13 - CIM & US Champs Preview, Taper Time, Key Workouts in the Build, Fuel Plan

lundi 1 décembre 2025Duration 33:39

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Today we discuss the upcoming California International Marathon (CIM), which is also the USATF Marathon Championships. Go through Jacob's build up, race strategy, and expectations for the competition. We delve into tapering, carb loading, and fueling strategies. We also talk about the rest of the competitive field at CIM. The conversation highlights the excitement surrounding marathon racing and the camaraderie among athletes as they prepare for race day.


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#12 Mica Rivera Wood - Building Instagram and Youtube to 100k, Marathon Debut, Training with Ed Eyestone's group

Season 1 · Episode 12

dimanche 23 novembre 2025Duration 46:27

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Mica Rivera Wood discusses balancing being a creator and an elite runner, her decision to transition from track to marathon running. She reflects on her initial fears and the excitement she feels about taking on this new challenge. Mica shares her thoughts on her potential in both track and marathon running, emphasizing the joy of embracing new experiences in her athletic journey.


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