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so...eric's back on the market. any takers? 👀 jk, but maybe? 🙄 today, eric wanted a lil pow-wow where we talk about our hearts. it's a whole episode around breakups - the good, the bad, and the ugly. and we have our very own recurring guest, kira, back on this special episode!! also kira is finally back online! you can find her at: Kira Lee: https://www.instagram.com/michellekiralee/ 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Kristin Davis 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 uh, are we toxic? 0:44 up until 5 am 2:38 kira is now online! ig: michellekiralee 3:17 our exes are watching this pod 4:25 our breakups history 5:58 eric's single now :'( 8:22 chloe's breakups history 16:18 kira's breakups history 23:49 eric's recent breakup 25:26 eric's breakups history 27:11 eric's faithfulness being tested 28:55 when do you commit? 30:55 "in-yeon", which is "fate" in korean 33:58 is eric ready to commit? 34:35 korea's declining birth rate 38:22 an open debate on having kids 44:10 our parent's relationships 46:22 how kira handles fights with her boyfriend 48:22 how eric's parents impacts him 49:19 money makes you powerless 49:43 the women in chloe's family are built different 52:28 eric's realization on who he dates 53:09 chloe's learnings from her breakups 57:11 kira's learnings from her breakups 1:00:00 eric's learnings from his breakups 1:02:54 is eric ready TO DATE?! :o 1:04:29 what eric's looking for in a *girlfriend* 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #businesspodcast #corporatecreatives

last week's episode was about the *art* of networking - how to get INTO the group. this week is about how you get kicked OUT of one. it's social faux pas, what NOT to do, and what gives us the ick.

𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️

𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠@trykarat) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway

co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances

𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(@chloeshih) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/

tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.

Editor: Lucas Falkavage and Jayna Benito

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0:00 no queen, you slay!

0:45 the truth about our patreon...

2:23 eric's filthy toes

3:02 horseback riding with the BOYZ

7:29 feeling better about building this startup

9:30 being with people we don't like

10:04 chloe's events w/ Asian Founders Network and Beacons

11:16 eric pinging chloe's discord manager

11:45 chloe fumbled at beacons dinner

13:32 chloe's hosting lenalemon and stellachuu

14:18 the mystery of grandma

15:42 chloe's mental breakdown

16:50 so there was this creepy tech guy...

20:22 kicking people out + setting boundaries

21:51 doing reference checks on the creep

22:59 I just found out he did that...

23:49 when you don't like your friend's friend

27:40 what's socially NOT ok?

29:00 what gets you BANNED

30:13 who's +1 are they?!

31:43 the emperor has no clothes

34:02 they snuck in and used us, wtf?

36:05 the attachment style theory

39:01 your problem is my problem

40:18 resolving conflicts w family (daddy chill!)

42:31 resolving conflicts in relationships

44:48 chloe left her nonprofit

46:11 stanford's touchy feely learnings

49:25 the feedback given to eric

51:04 what to do with fringe friends you don't like

53:02 social faux pas!

57:03 how to pass the vibe check

1:01:51 story: chloe's mentor

1:04:01 people talk...

1:05:41 takeaways: u gotta be a hater

1:06:46 a study on cutting off your family

1:09:28 don't lie

When Chloe got laid off this year, she accidentally went viral and reached over 20m+ views online. This spawned a lot of unexpected things - from getting lots of new opportunities to being retweeted into oblivion. It was truly an atypical layoff experience, but was also the catalyst for Chloe and Eric to finally record this pod.

Hope you enjoy the very first episode of JOMO with Chloe and Eric!

Note: This episode was recorded In February 2024, so some information might be outdated. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 ( @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/ co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ( @chloeshih  ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.

Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify

∙ youtube → www.youtube.com/@jomopod

∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple

𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 our silly lil intro 0:25 eric's intro of chloe 7:53 chloe's intro of eric 11:58 what JOMO pod is about 13:39 eric's weekend 18:42 chloe's weekend 20:10 going viral for getting laid off 20:27 getting hate 21:10 going viral in the news 22:13 hate on blind 23:41 eric's take on the hate + layoffs 26:11 new doors opening after the layoffs 28:51 eric's dramatic career w mckinsey, blackstone, facebook 32:31 some weird friend group drama 34:57 lawyering up (getting bullied by an entertainment co) 38:11 creators talking sh*t about chloe 40:40 eric's take on ppl talking sh*t 41:42 was the layoff a good thing? 43:03 dangers of making your life your content 45:55 being shameless going in on content + asking for favors 47:37 pet peeves when ppl ask for favors 50:06 chloe's first impression of eric 52:43 eric's first impression of chloe 57:32 hope u liked this 👉👈 🥺 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com

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Welcome to Office Drama!

𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tech product manager making educational videos to elevate your career and life!

“It’s all about who you know.”

We’re constantly told to go out there and network, to the point where we feel like we can’t miss a single event. And the million dollar question: what if you're an introvert?

From our years in corporate and now the content space, we've been to our fair share of networking events and picked up a few tips along the way. This episode is a dump of the stories, the L's, and insider tips we've gathered on the art of networking.

𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠  @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(  @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 intro 0:46 ultra premium rare skin Chloe unlocked 3:00 Eric’s Karat party at Vidcon 4:42 Colin & Samir shoutout 6:36 burnout at events 9:51 Vidcon networking highlights 12:11 Eric’s missed panel 16:15 dinner with a mega millionaire 20:55 algorithms to optimize health 22:12 what’s a hot girl walk? 25:50 networking as an introvert 26:34 Eric and Chloe’s MBTI test results 28:08 networking when you don’t know anyone 31:40 how to secure people’s contact info 34:09 how Eric networks 36:13 Chloe’s go-to networking question 38:39 what’s the dream? 44:36 are they a work friend or friend friend? 49:11 Eric’s cold outreach secrets🤫 54:13 who Eric wants to meet next 55:35 who Chloe wants to meet next 57:48 the truth about successful people 59:30 know who to stay away from 1:05:59 feeling FOMO with networking 1:08:53 givers and takers 1:11:25 Jomie meetup?? 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #friendship #adultfriendship

Friends - everyone needs them, but why are real ones so hard to find? Spoiler alert: it doesn't get easier once you're an adult. In fact it gets even more complicated once you throw work, spouses, and everyone doing their own thing into the mix. Episode 8 is about the best and worst parts of friendship, from the toxicity and cliques to the people you meet who make all of the drama worthwhile. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠  @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(  @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple

∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 repressed memories 0:36 Chloe is injured 2:06 Eric’s new friends 3:03 Eric’s crazy ig stories 4:45 not having a friend group ft. eric’s kitty socks 6:53 abusive best friends 9:08 the Bay Area clique 10:39 when did Chloe make her first best friend 11:57 Chloe’s high school and college bullies 16:09 Chloe’s a$$hole roommate 22:43 SF housing drama 28:42 there’s no good definition of friendship 31:33 Eric’s struggle making friends 35:50 Eric couldn’t find roommates at Harvard 37:34 Chloe’s old high school crush 42:27 let’s talk about adult friendships 44:51 deciding how people slot into your life. How close are we? 49:50 Chloe’s friendship bar 52:08 Chloe’s highkey sus mentor 56:15 reference checking friends 57:08 criteria for making friends 1:00:44 when business changes friendships 1:03:02 have you ever been a groomsman/woman? 1:05:34 the complications of work friendships 1:07:47 this toxic coworker had a big crush on Chloe 1:12:39 can men and women be friends? 1:14:50 being pressured to constantly hang out 1:17:57 what Chloe appreciates about Eric 1:19:38 what Eric appreciates about Chloe 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #friendship #adultfriendship

Nothing we do feels like enough. It’s easy to look at someone’s accomplishments on paper and think they have it all...but Episode 7 is all about the mental tax that comes with constantly striving for that next accomplishment. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠  @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3 ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/udRmVpf3Xv 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 How to do a *proper* hi five 1:05 life updates - Taiwan, college reunion, writing a life PRD 4:21 Chloe’s course launched… and she has a hater 9:08 Chloe’s act of kindness 11:03 the life of being online 12:01 Eric’s recent acts of kindness 13:52 Eric as a college student 16:17 what is Harvard’s reunion like? 19:45 Chloe not included in networking conversations 24:07 feeling small 29:56 Chloe has *clout* 31:33 Chloe hosted her own Gold House Gala 36:16 the sacrifices of putting “business success” first 38:23 living in scarcity 39:37 wanting to feel heard 41:13 ya hate to see it! 44:09 do you want to change and let go? 45:49 infinite halfway theory 48:22 first impressions of Chloe 50:16 does wanting to change come from insecurity? 52:35 Chloe’s insecurities about being feminine enough 56:56 Eric’s crazy EDC travels 1:01:40 how much Chloe’s course made in sales 1:07:51 reflections 1:10:32 a bonus 🪰 📧 business: jomo.chat@gmail.com #jomopod #joyofmissingout #chloeshih #ericwei #careerpodcast #career #contentcreator #startup #careeradvice

Full-time content or back to tech...what about neither? Chloe has been defining her own path, which along the way has led her to sign a huge contract with a Taiwanese ed-tech company and contemplate launching her own TV show. Similarly, Eric's involvement in both business and content has him going from VC pitch meetings to hanging out in the Sway House with some of the world's biggest influencers. What is that lifestyle like, and is it really worth it?

𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️

𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway

co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances

𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/

tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.

Editor: Jayna Benito

𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸

∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod

∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3

∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple

∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod

∙ discord → https://discord.com/invite/eKZEx42R

𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚

0:00 uwu and meet buddy

1:23 why was Chloe in Taiwan

3:37 Chloe’s product course!

5:32 why Kevin had to fly to Taiwan 

6:51 Chloe’s family reunion 

11:06 being a full time creator - is it profitable? Worth it?

13:16 why Chloe doesn’t want to do just tech or content

15:45 what are you gonna do then?

18:30 jUsT sTarT a cOmpAnY

20:55 what Chloe really cares about

26:53 content is too grabby

28:53 it only takes Eric 15 mins to do this??

32:22 what do we call Chloe’s path

33:10 star studded pickleball tournament

36:39 the mentor who changed Chloe’s life

41:23 Chloe and Eric’s takes on how to actually find a mentor

45:13 awkward networking stories

49:32 why you have to be self promotional

51:10 eric’s experience at sway house

52:26 how content complements Eric’s entrepreneurship

59:00 taiwanese slang M3Ⓜ️3️⃣

1:01:21 creators are tired

1:07:14 familial duties - parents, chloe junior

1:11:56 JOMO out

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“Should I leave my 9-5 to do content?” We’ve all had that thought, and Chloe actually made it happen. But is content really as glamorous as it seems? Chloe and Eric dive into the good, the bad, and the ugly of some of today's most enticing career paths: tech, startups, and content. 𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️ 𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠  @trykarat  ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances 𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠(  @chloeshih  ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/ tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s. Editor: Jayna Benito 𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸 ∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod ∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify ∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple ∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod ∙ discord → https://discord.gg/chloeshih 𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚 0:00 sick and tired of it all 2:46 did eric get shadow banned? 4:06 learned helplessness 5:46 chloe spends HOW many hours a week on content? 9:09 chloe has the urge to go back to corporate 1048 is content less fun as a full time creator? 11:51 how to design your life 13:14 how being 30 affects your body 15:35 the three paths - content is a side hoe 17:56 the most interesting people are not online 20:13 PM is NOT a chill job 24:03 what’s so hard about deciding life paths 27:30 do CEOs have to be good at managing people 29:13 should creators have smaller teams? 33:00 is YouTube still worth it? 35:08 how to make the most out of your PM job 39:23 feeling unimpactful as a PM 40:47 I just wanna be salary man 42:32 creators don’t get to work on the business side 44:50 chloe’s crazy grind schedule 49:11 does chloe want to start her own company? 51:18 eric’s career advice for chloe 53:35 how eric deals with burnout 54:40 eric & chloe’s plans for the next few weeks

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In Part 2 of our steamiest episode yet - what's it really like to date successful people? Do men like it when women are smarter than them? Should the man in a relationship pay more? Chloe and Eric are joined by a friend to discuss everything related to love and dating in your 30s.

𝙎𝙋𝙄𝘾𝙀 𝙇𝙀𝙑𝙀𝙇: 🌶️🌶️🌶️

𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️

𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway

co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances

𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/

tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.

Editor: Jayna Benito

Disclaimer: This episode features an open and honest discussion about our diverse dating journeys. We understand that some viewpoints may differ from your own, and we fully respect that. Our aim is to create a space for a variety of perspectives rooted in real experiences. Please remember that the content of this podcast is not intended as advice. Instead, we hope it highlights the complexity of dating and love.

𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸

∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod

∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify

∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple

∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod

∙ youtube → www.youtube.com/@jomopod

∙ discord → https://discord.gg/chloeshih

𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚

0:00 welcome to pt 2! 0:48 what it’s like to date founders 3:02 are founders more likely to cheat? 4:22 the problems with men wanting validation 5:40 was dating in 30s different for eric 6:36 why dating in 30s gets harder for women 8:42 how eric “screens” potential gfs 9:27 why eric doesn’t want kids 10:45 the most forward chloe has ever been 12:57 eric’s consulting rizz 13:43 do guys like when girls are smarter 15:49 how do you know he wants to be more than friends 17:36 definite dealbreakers 18:36 GREEN flags 22:11 being gaslit into open relationships 26:36 improve yourself to attract better people in your life 29:10 why open relationships don’t work long term 31:37 when are you ready to get married 33:06 how eric views marriage 34:55 should men pay for more 41:40 how much $$ do you need to live comfortably in LA 45:09 being a housewife 46:15 favorite romantic tropes

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