Idling In The Impala | a ride through SPN fandom and fanfiction – Details, episodes & analysis

In this episode of Idling In The Impala, Sandra and Kasey delve into popular fanfiction tropes, focusing on Bodyswap and Genderswap within the Supernatural fandom. They explore the various creative variations these tropes take and discuss some of the controversies surrounding them. As passionate fans of the show, they analyze how these themes uniquely apply to stories about the brothers, Sam Winchester and Dean Winchester, and why these tropes resonate with writers and readers alike. This episode also touches on fanfic recommendations and podfics that showcase these genres, offering listeners perspectives on one of fanfiction's most imaginative and debated tropes. If you love supernatural fanfiction and fandom discussions, this episode is a must-listen.

Links to Bodyswap and Genderswap Fanlore Pages.

Doc with all the stats and fic links discussed in this episode can be found here.

Click here to check out fic recs from our Discord members: But we’d love you to join us in the Idling server’s #backseat to share your recs and thoughts!

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We're taking you for a spin in Baby's backseat.

Dean's House Rules - Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts his cakehole, and the ones in the back enjoy the ride... idling in the Impala.

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Our podcast occasionally incorporates brief excerpts from the CW television show "Supernatural" for transformative commentary and analysis. This use falls under the Fair Use doctrine codified in Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act. The included clips are short, constituting only a minuscule portion of the original work, and illustrate specific points within our critical commentary. Our podcast does not compete with the show's market. This use promotes public discourse and understanding of the work, strengthening its cultural significance.

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Chapter Timestamps

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:10 - A lot of swapping going on

00:02:02 - First impressions on bodyswap

00:05:16 - What is bodyswap

00:07:39 - Bodyswap in SPN canon

00:11:10 - Plausible trope in canon

00:12:36 - Bodyswap on AO3

00:15:35 - Getting into Genderswap

00:23:19 - Always a Girl

00:29:23 - More controversy

00:31:28 - Genderswap on AO3

00:33:37 - Fic Recs

00:44:48 - Final Verdicts and Massive Tangents

01:02:02 - Outro

Dive into the vibrant Supernatural fandom with Sandra and Kasey as they continue their series of convention stories. In this episode, Sandra breaks down her most recent con experience at CreationCon in Norfolk, Virginia, with fellow congoers Jackie (jinkieswouldyoulookatthis) and Lemons (fictionallemons). They share their love and adoration for the actors that brought Dean Winchester and Sam Winchester to life, and demonstrate how the love of a show creates friendships that aren’t dictated by distance. This episode highlights what makes this fandom the SPN family. 

Sandra and Kasey invite you to join the conversation by sharing your own convention stories, continuing the rich tradition of storytelling within the fandom. Stay tuned for more episodes exploring the intersection of Supernatural, fanfiction, and fandom culture!

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We're taking you for a spin in Baby's backseat.

Dean's House Rules - Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts his cakehole, and the ones in the back enjoy the ride... idling in the Impala.

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TL;DR - If you can’t be bothered clicking on all the things in this description, just visit our website: idlingintheimpala.com

We'd love to hear your thoughts. Send us an email (idlingintheimpala@gmail.com)!

All the Socials and AO3 and Fiction links: https://linktr.ee/idlingintheimpalapodcast

Our Discord #backseat Channel.

Interested in being a guest on the podcast? Give us some info about you here so we can connect.

Feel inclined to leave us a tip for all this AWESOME content? Visit our Ko-fi page. Monthly supporters will get special behind-the-scenes perks!

We’ve got podcast merch for our fellow idlers. Take a look!

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Charities IITI Supports: Check out the Causes, ‘cause page on our website for the whys:

World Central Kitchen and Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)

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For Those in the US: Educate and Empower Yourself, Find Ways to Take Action

Support Basic Human Rights - American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

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Thrive (Not Just Survive) After Abuse - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN)  

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LGBTQ+ Charities

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The Trevor Project - USA and Global

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Our podcast occasionally incorporates brief excerpts from the CW television show "Supernatural" for transformative commentary and analysis. This use falls under the Fair Use doctrine codified in Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act. The included clips are short, constituting only a minuscule portion of the original work, and illustrate specific points within our critical commentary. Our podcast does not compete with the show's market. This use promotes public discourse and understanding of the work, strengthening its cultural significance.

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Chapter Timestamps

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:38 - Trains, Planes, and Automobiles

00:11:58 - Last Minute Con Cancellation

00:14:38 - Checking in for the Con and Friday Meetup

00:20:17 - Hotel and Con Crit

00:33:06 - The longest con day ever

00:40:10 - Jensen adoration time

00:47:11 - Jared adoration time

00:52:42 - SNS time

00:58:13 - Saturday backtrack

01:02:40 - Sunday morning spent staring at Jensen and Baby ops

01:11:34 - Jackie and the Jensen photo ops

01:17:14 - The Sunday panel

01:19:41 - Getting some friend time in before heading home

01:22:25 - The hoodie verdict

01:26:45 - Final con thoughts

01:36:21 - Outro

Sandra and Kasey warmly welcome fanfic authors and longtime SPN fandom friends, Laura Rye and Bailey R. Hansen, back to the Idling In The Impala podcast. As co-authors of the “A Monster By Any Other Name” Series, their journey through the world of Supernatural fanfiction, featuring beloved characters like Dean Winchester and Sam Winchester, shines alongside their transition into original series writing.

In this episode, we dive into the creative process behind their fanfic and the final release of their original novel "Fire." Join us for an in-depth discussion on storytelling, character development, and their experiences within the vibrant SPN fandom. 

Whether you're a dedicated member of the SPNFamily or new to the show’s fanfiction scene, this episode offers insight and inspiration from two talented voices in the community.

You can find the “A Monster By Any Other Name” series at a variety of online booksellers. Visit Freak Camp for more info and check out all the extra content you can get on Freak Camp’s Patreon.

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We're taking you for a spin in Baby's backseat.

Dean's House Rules - Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts his cakehole, and the ones in the back enjoy the ride... idling in the Impala.

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TL;DR - If you can’t be bothered clicking on all the things in this description, just visit our website: idlingintheimpala.com

We'd love to hear your thoughts. Send us an email (idlingintheimpala@gmail.com)!

All the Socials and AO3 and Fiction links: https://linktr.ee/idlingintheimpalapodcast

Our Discord #backseat Channel.

Interested in being a guest on the podcast? Give us some info about you here so we can connect.

Feel inclined to leave us a tip for all this AWESOME content? Visit our Ko-fi page. Monthly supporters will get special behind-the-scenes perks!

We’ve got podcast merch for our fellow idlers. Take a look!

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Charities IITI Supports: Check out the Causes, ‘cause page on our website for the whys:

World Central Kitchen and Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)

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For Those in the US: Educate and Empower Yourself, Find Ways to Take Action

Support Basic Human Rights - American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

Prioritize Your Mental Health - National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)

Thrive (Not Just Survive) After Abuse - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN)  

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LGBTQ+ Charities

Switchboard LGBT UK

The Trevor Project - USA and Global

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Our podcast occasionally incorporates brief excerpts from the CW television show "Supernatural" for transformative commentary and analysis. This use falls under the Fair Use doctrine codified in Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act. The included clips are short, constituting only a minuscule portion of the original work, and illustrate specific points within our critical commentary. Our podcast does not compete with the show's market. This use promotes public discourse and understanding of the work, strengthening its cultural significance.

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Chapter Timestamps

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:38 - Freak Camp origins

00:05:47 - Selling the tale to traditional publishers

00:07:54 - The well-earned romance and relationship of Tobias and Jake

00:10:20 - The point where Supernatural canon was no longer acceptable

00:16:40 - How discussion with fans has shaped Idling’s interviews

00:24:07 - Publishing journey wisdom

00:27:37 - Could this have been a solo writing journey?

00:32:39 - The next step into audiobooks

00:41:28 - From draft to final

00:42:56 - Favorite book baby

00:44:36 - Sandra’s spoilers and Kasey fesses up

00:50:33 - Did they stick the series’ landing?

00:54:22 - How has the journey to finishing Freak Camp affected Laura and Bailey?

00:58:28 - More Tobias and Jake?

01:01:27 - Writing after Freak Camp

01:06:16 - Reader reactions to the series’ conclusion

01:09:59 - Final thoughts and outro

Sandra and Kasey discuss the Supernatural character Chuck Shurley, AKA God, and the meta of it all! Are fanfic authors the ultimate villains, like Chuck, playing god with these characters? Tell us your thoughts after you have a listen!

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We're taking you for a spin in Baby's backseat.

Dean's House Rules - Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts his cakehole, and the ones in the back enjoy the ride... idling in the Impala.

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TL;DR - If you can’t be bothered clicking on all the things in this description, just visit our website: idlingintheimpala.com

We'd love to hear your thoughts. Send us an email (idlingintheimpala@gmail.com)! DM us on Twitter or leave us a voicemail!

All the Socials and AO3 and Fiction links: https://linktr.ee/idlingintheimpalapodcast

Our Discord #backseat Channel.

Interested in being a guest on the podcast? Give us some info about you here so we can connect.

Feel inclined to leave us a tip for all this AWESOME content? Visit our Ko-fi page. Supporters will get access to our #behindthescenes channel, content self-explanatory.

We’ve got podcast merch for our fellow idlers. Take a look!

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Charities supporting people affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the October 2023 war in the Middle East

World Central Kitchen and Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)

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For Those in the US: Educate and Empower Yourself, Find Ways to Take Action

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Support Basic Human Rights - American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

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Thrive (Not Just Survive) After Abuse - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN)  

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LGBTQ+ Charities

Switchboard LGBT UK

The Trevor Project - USA and Global

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Our podcast occasionally incorporates brief excerpts from the CW television show "Supernatural" for transformative commentary and analysis. This use falls under the Fair Use doctrine codified in Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act. The included clips are short, constituting only a minuscule portion of the original work, and illustrate specific points within our critical commentary. Our podcast does not compete with the show's market. This use promotes public discourse and understanding of the work, strengthening its cultural significance.

Sandra and Kasey are trying something new! This inaugural episode format called Tags and Tropes will focus on a category or aspect of fanfiction that Sandra and Kasey may or may not have delved into before. The first one they’re tackling is the story trope of De-Aging, which can be found on AO3 under the wrangled main tag “Age Regression/De-Aging.”

Fanlore page on De-Aging

Sandra’s Fic Find: As You Were by KatZen

PurpleEdge’s Rec: Goodnight, Moon by dragonflysoul

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We're taking you for a spin in Baby's backseat.

Dean's House Rules - Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts his cakehole, and the ones in the back enjoy the ride... idling in the Impala.

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TL;DR - If you can’t be bothered clicking on all the things in this description, just visit our website: idlingintheimpala.com

We'd love to hear your thoughts. Send us an email (idlingintheimpala@gmail.com)! DM us on Twitter or leave us a voicemail!

All the Socials and AO3 and Fiction links: https://linktr.ee/idlingintheimpalapodcast

Our Discord #backseat Channel.

Interested in being a guest on the podcast? Give us some info about you here so we can connect.

Feel inclined to leave us a tip for all this AWESOME content? Visit our Ko-fi page. Supporters will get access to our #behindthescenes channel, content self-explanatory.

We’ve got podcast merch for our fellow idlers. Take a look!

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Charities supporting people affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the October 2023 war in the Middle East

World Central Kitchen and Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)

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For Those in the US: Educate and Empower Yourself, Find Ways to Take Action

U.S. Voting Registration - Vote.gov

Support Basic Human Rights - American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

Prioritize Your Mental Health - National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)

Thrive (Not Just Survive) After Abuse - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN)  

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LGBTQ+ Charities

Switchboard LGBT UK

The Trevor Project - USA and Global

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Our podcast occasionally incorporates brief excerpts from the CW television show "Supernatural" for transformative commentary and analysis. This use falls under the Fair Use doctrine codified in Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act. The included clips are short, constituting only a minuscule portion of the original work, and illustrate specific points within our critical commentary. Our podcast does not compete with the show's market. This use promotes public discourse and understanding of the work, strengthening its cultural significance.

Jane, also known as ThatGirlJaneFox and ScaryVonJeannieStyne on AO3, has been a long time listener of the podcast and reached out to us last year. Jane’s a self-proclaimed White Witch from Scotland. When Sandra found that out, Jane was invited on to the podcast to discuss Supernatural and how it portrays witches and witchcraft.

You can read Jane’s works on AO3.

Episode Mention/Reference - Jane’s Late Friend’s Hayley’s Reptile Channel on YouTube

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We're taking you for a spin in Baby's backseat.

Dean's House Rules - Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts his cakehole, and the ones in the back enjoy the ride... idling in the Impala.

~~~~~

TL;DR - If you can’t be bothered clicking on all the things in this description, just visit our website: idlingintheimpala.com

We'd love to hear your thoughts. Send us an email (idlingintheimpala@gmail.com)! DM us on Twitter or leave us a voicemail!

All the Socials and AO3 and Fiction links: https://linktr.ee/idlingintheimpalapodcast

Our Discord #backseat Channel.

Interested in being a guest on the podcast? Give us some info about you here so we can connect.

Feel inclined to leave us a tip for all this AWESOME content? Visit our Ko-fi page. Supporters will get access to our #behindthescenes channel, content self-explanatory.

We’ve got podcast merch for our fellow idlers. Take a look!

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Charities supporting people affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the October 2023 war in the Middle East

World Central Kitchen and Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)

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For Those in the US: Educate and Empower Yourself, Find Ways to Take Action

U.S. Voting Registration - Vote.gov

Support Basic Human Rights - American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

Prioritize Your Mental Health - National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)

Thrive (Not Just Survive) After Abuse - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN)  

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LGBTQ+ Charities

Switchboard LGBT UK

The Trevor Project - USA and Global

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Our podcast occasionally incorporates brief excerpts from the CW television show "Supernatural" for transformative commentary and analysis. This use falls under the Fair Use doctrine codified in Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act. The included clips are short, constituting only a minuscule portion of the original work, and illustrate specific points within our critical commentary. Our podcast does not compete with the show's market. This use promotes public discourse and understanding of the work, strengthening its cultural significance.

Family don’t end in blood. And, apparently, family doesn’t end when you talk a relative’s ear off about Supernatural. Sandra and Kasey had a great time discussing Season 1 of Supernatural with first-time watcher, Joey. Oh, and Ted was along for the ride to provide a slightly less obsessive take on the Family Business.  

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We're taking you for a spin in Baby's backseat.

Dean's House Rules - Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts his cakehole, and the ones in the back enjoy the ride... idling in the Impala.

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TL;DR - If you can’t be bothered clicking on all the things in this description, just visit our website: idlingintheimpala.com

We'd love to hear your thoughts. Send us an email (idlingintheimpala@gmail.com)! DM us on Twitter or leave us a voicemail!

All the Socials and AO3 and Fiction links: https://linktr.ee/idlingintheimpalapodcast

Our Discord #backseat Channel.

Interested in being a guest on the podcast? Give us some info about you here so we can connect.

Feel inclined to leave us a tip for all this AWESOME content? Visit our Ko-fi page. Supporters will get access to our #behindthescenes channel, content self-explanatory.

We’ve got podcast merch for our fellow idlers. Take a look!

~~~~~

Charities supporting people affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the October 2023 war in the Middle East

World Central Kitchen and Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)

~~~~~

For Those in the US: Educate and Empower Yourself, Find Ways to Take Action

U.S. Voting Registration - Vote.gov

Support Basic Human Rights - American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

Prioritize Your Mental Health - National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)

Thrive (Not Just Survive) After Abuse - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN)  

~~~~~

LGBTQ+ Charities

Switchboard LGBT UK

The Trevor Project - USA and Global

~~~~~

Our podcast occasionally incorporates brief excerpts from the CW television show "Supernatural" for transformative commentary and analysis. This use falls under the Fair Use doctrine codified in Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act. The included clips are short, constituting only a minuscule portion of the original work, and illustrate specific points within our critical commentary. Our podcast does not compete with the show's market. This use promotes public discourse and understanding of the work, strengthening its cultural significance.

Podfic Narration Time – “And She Was” by quickreaver

It’s kind of unfair how talented quickreaver is to be honest. Not only is she an amazing artist, but she is also an extremely talented writer. Once I got permission to narrate her stuff, I have to admit that I couldn’t decide. So, I ended up picking two. Here’s my second pick, “And She Was.” This one is less high stakes, more magic ~ Dean being Dean, Sam being so over him, per usual. The voices of the characters really ring authentic in this short supernatural story. 

Please visit the fic on AO3 and give it a kudo and comment - it deserves a ton of praise!

~ Sandra

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Supernatural Fandom

Rated Teen

Gen (No Pairing)

Summary:

The one where Sam has cause to hate witches as much as Dean does. Or maybe not.

Kasey couldn’t help themselves after listening to Sandra’s Bang and Bingo update ~ they signed up for JAcklesVerse Bingo AND the Wincest Big Bang! Listen to Kasey’s experience and discussion on the fruits of their labor!

Kasey’s Bingo Square Stories

(K)not For Sale

Demon Dreams (Ch. 1 of Dreams)

Learn More About The Challenges

Jensen Acklesverse Bingo

Wincest Big Bang

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We're taking you for a spin in Baby's backseat.

Dean's House Rules - Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts his cakehole, and the ones in the back enjoy the ride... idling in the Impala.

~~~~~

TL;DR - If you can’t be bothered clicking on all the things in this description, just visit our website: idlingintheimpala.com

We'd love to hear your thoughts. Send us an email (idlingintheimpala@gmail.com)! DM us on Twitter or leave us a voicemail!

All the Socials and AO3 and Fiction links: https://linktr.ee/idlingintheimpalapodcast

Our Discord #backseat Channel.

Interested in being a guest on the podcast? Give us some info about you here so we can connect.

Feel inclined to leave us a tip for all this AWESOME content? Visit our Ko-fi page. Supporters will get access to our #behindthescenes channel, content self-explanatory.

We’ve got podcast merch for our fellow idlers. Take a look!

~~~~~

Charities supporting people affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the October 2023 war in the Middle East

World Central Kitchen and Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)

~~~~~

For Those in the US: Educate and Empower Yourself, Find Ways to Take Action

U.S. Voting Registration - Vote.gov

Support Basic Human Rights - American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

Prioritize Your Mental Health - National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)

Thrive (Not Just Survive) After Abuse - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network (RAINN)  

~~~~~

LGBTQ+ Charities

Switchboard LGBT UK

The Trevor Project - USA and Global

~~~~~

Our podcast occasionally incorporates brief excerpts from the CW television show "Supernatural" for transformative commentary and analysis. This use falls under the Fair Use doctrine codified in Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act. The included clips are short, constituting only a minuscule portion of the original work, and illustrate specific points within our critical commentary. Our podcast does not compete with the show's market. This use promotes public discourse and understanding of the work, strengthening its cultural significance.

Podfic Narration Time – “Rabbits Scream” by quickreaver

It’s kind of unfair how talented quickreaver is to be honest. Not only is she an amazing artist, but she is also an extremely talented writer. Once I got permission to narrate her stuff, I admit I couldn’t decide. So, I ended up picking two. First up is Rabbits Scream. I was immediately captivated by how the words in this story painted each moment in vivid detail. 

Please visit the fic on AO3 and give it a kudo and comment - it deserves a ton of praise!

~ Sandra

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Supernatural Fandom

Rated Mature

Gen (No Pairing)

Summary:

Sam is still seeing the Devil, but he's dealing. Dealing in ways he could never predict. A simple morning jog takes a wrong turn that just may put him in the right place after all.