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A podcast by interior designer Adam Charlap Hyman and antiques dealer Laura Kugel, featuring guests who are usually irreverent, often idiosyncratic, and always experts in their corner of decorative arts and interior design. Loosely defined, the field becomes a springboard for conversations spanning art, design, collecting, antiques, theatre, architecture, history, and photography. While the topics may vary, each conversation possesses the same emotional and ideological core: to interrogate the forces that drive our material culture.
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Teaser with Astrid Malingreau
mercredi 12 novembre 2025 ⢠Duration 20:10
For this teaser episode, Adam and Laura are joined by friend of the pod Astrid Malingreau, who spearheads design gallery Friedman Benda in Paris. The tables are turned as she interviews them to answer one simple question about Handle with Care: why do we need a podcast about interiors and decorative arts?
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Episode 1: Dominique Nabokov
mardi 18 novembre 2025 ⢠Duration 32:42
In Episode 1, Adam and Laura visit legendary photographer Dominique Nabokov at her New York flat.
Dominiqueās first interior photography series was commissioned by The New Yorker in 1995, when the magazine asked her to capture āportraitsā of notable New Yorkers by photographing their living rooms, but free of their residents. The result, later dubbed āinterior photography portraiture,ā featured the homes of Susan Sontag, Allen Ginsberg, Oscar de la Renta, Diane von Furstenberg, Joan Didion, and many others. Dominiqueās aesthetic has since influenced a generation of photographers.
In this episode, she speaks about her extraordinary life, the impact of this original New Yorker series on her career, and the importance of documenting interiors.
Get a copy of Dominique's books on Living Rooms here.
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Episode 2: Pierre Marie
vendredi 28 novembre 2025 ⢠Duration 37:58
In Episode 2, Adam and Laura speak with the inimitable Pierre Marie. A self-described ornamentalist, he works at the crossroads of artist, designer, and decorator and is a true world-builder. After starting his career designing scarves for the great house of HermĆØs, he now collaborates with exceptional artisans across ancestral practices to create new objects and textiles. His work spans rugs, tapestries, stained glass, mosaics, and more.
In this episode, Pierre Marie shares his singular vision, reflects on the importance of craftsmanship and the role of nostalgia in contemporary creation, and even speaks about the ever-inspiring power of Disney.
Find out more about Pierre Marie Studio here, or follow him on Instagram at @pierremariepmĀ
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Episode 3: Robert Couturier
jeudi 4 décembre 2025 ⢠Duration 39:05
In Episode 3, Adam and Laura visit Robert Couturier, a legendary interior decorator who discusses the philosophical and psychological sides of the profession. With his infectious humor and enthusiasm, Robert speaks about how he worked with only one (fabulously wealthy) client for ten years, shares tips for working on the interiors of private jets, and unpacks how he built the multifaceted and international practice he has today.
Find out more about Robert Couturier here, or follow him @real_robert_couturier
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Episode 4: Zack Winokur
jeudi 29 janvier 2026 ⢠Duration 39:04
In 2026, Handle with Care returns with Episode 4, featuring New Yorkābased theatre and opera director and producer Zack Winokur. In this episode, Adam and Laura dive into the art of set design, with Adam and Zack reflecting on their long-standing collaborations and how their shared belief in the power of world-building for the stage has evolved over time.
The conversation moves between various influences, from 18th-century trompe lāÅil to radical contemporary productions, including a show featuring sheep herded by a giant zeppelin at New Yorkās Armory.
Find out more about Zack Winokur here, or follow him @winokurz
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Episode 5: Peter McGough
jeudi 12 février 2026 ⢠Duration 35:20
In Episode 5, Adam and Laura speak with New Yorkābased artist Peter McGough. In 2019, Peter published his remarkable memoir "Iāve Seen the Future and Iām Not Going: The Art Scene and Downtown New York in the 1980s", recounting with wit and sincerity the story of his artistic duo with David McDermott, their experience as time-travellers reliving through the Victorian era, and his encounters with Keith Haring, Jean-Michel Basquiat, and Andy Warhol, among many others.
In this episode, Peter shares his views on growing up gay in Syracuse, his singular artistic sensibility, his outlook on decorating, and offers a detailed account of his legendary work in tribute to the Oscar Wilde trial.
Find out more about Peter's memoirs here or follow him @petertmcg
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Episode 6: Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn
jeudi 5 mars 2026 ⢠Duration 32:16
In Episode 6, Adam and Laura visited Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn, founder of Salon 94 and Salon 94 Design, at her home on 94th Street ā configured as part gallery, part entertaining space, and part family home. In her beautiful living room, surrounded by a painting by Julie Mehretu, a table by Diego Giacometti, a steel bow stool by Maria Pergay, and a whimsical ceramic gourd by Taxile Doat, they discussed Jeanneās views on cross-collecting, the need for a renewed generation of design patrons, and behind-the-scenes anecdotes from her upbringing and life as an art dealer.
Find out more about Salon 94 and Salon 94 Design, or follow Jeanne @jeannegr
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Episode 7: Louis Bofferding
jeudi 23 avril 2026 ⢠Duration 32:59
Episode 7 of Handle with Care is really the showās pilot. Adam and Laura interviewed Louis Bofferding over a year ago, in his fabulous Manhattan treasure trove. Louis is a dealer in art and design, an art historian, and an inimitable storyteller. He specializes in the lesser-known or forgotten stories of artworks and has a rare ability to set the scene and transport you back to the moment an object was made.
The trio discuss the cornerstone topic of provenance, not from a legal perspective but from a narrative one: how much value do the stories objects carry bring? What is the appeal of a complete provenance, or of a work having none at all? If you like this episode, you will love Louisā outstanding website, where he details in length the stories of his amazing finds.
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Episode 8: Marie-Anne Derville
jeudi 30 avril 2026 ⢠Duration 36:34
In Episode 8 of Handle with Care, Adam and Laura meet interior decorator, furniture designer, scenographer, and friend of the pod Marie-Anne Derville, who has in recent years become one of the most interesting and widely followed decorators in the industry. Over tea in her wonderful apartment in the centre of Paris, they explore her distinctive and intuitive way of approaching interior decoration and her own practice.
Marie-Anne discusses her early days in the world of design alongside Pierre Yovanovitch, her collaboration with Nicolas GhesquiĆØre and Louis Vuitton, some of her key influences, from Madeleine Castaing to Louise de Vilmorin, and her passion for gaffer tape. All with wit and humour!
Follow Marie-Anne's instagram here and visit her website, where she shows her line of furniture and available pieces for sale.Ā
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Episode 9: Felix Burrichter
jeudi 7 mai 2026 ⢠Duration 33:45
In Episode 9 of Handle with Care, Adam and Laura speak with the brilliant Felix Burrichter: curator, editor, publisher and founder of PINāUP: The Magazine for Architectural Entertainment, a first of its kind publication where Felix now serves as Editorial & Creative Director. Recorded ahead of PINāUP 40, the Spring/Summer 2026 Issue and the magazineās 20th anniversary, Felix discusses the early days of PINāUP, what it is like to create each issue from scratch, his collaborations with guest editors, and how his incredible team at PINāUP has grown and changed over the years.
Find out more about Felix Burrichter and PINāUP Magazine, or follow on Instagram @pinupmagazine
PINāUP 40 is available for purchase now at this link.
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