Guardian Mindset Podcast – Details, episodes & analysis

Show Notes:

In this special 4th of July episode, attorney Eric Daigle is joined by his son, Captain Matthew Daigle, and daughter-in-law, Jennifer Daigle. They discuss the importance of family, integrity, and commitment within both the military and civilian law enforcement sectors.

Highlights include:

• Matthew's Journey: From West Point to his experiences as a captain in the U.S. Army, Matthew shares insights on the Cadet Honor Code and the crucial role of NCOs on the battlefield.
• Leadership and Integrity: The discussion delves into effective leadership, emphasizing the values of integrity and accountability.
• Training and Accountability: Eric ties these lessons to current challenges in law enforcement, stressing the importance of training, accountability, and pride in service.
• Military and Law Enforcement Values: The conversation covers the significance of continuous learning, discipline, and honest communication in both professions.

Amid personal anecdotes and reflections, this episode offers valuable insights on fostering professionalism and excellence in high-stakes environments. Tune in to understand how these principles can be applied to enhance operational effectiveness and community service.

About the Guest:

Captain Matthew Daigle is a distinguished officer in the United States Army Military Police. With a career marked by dedication and exemplary service, Captain Daigle has demonstrated exceptional leadership and commitment to the safety and security of military personnel and facilities.

Captain Daigle graduated from the West Point Military Academy in 2019. He has served as a Platoon Leader in the 23rd MP CO, 91st MP BN, 16th MP BDE, Executive Officer in the headquarters and headquarters detachment, 91st MP BN, 16th MP BDE, and is currently serving as the Current Operations Officer in the 759th MP BN, 89th MP BDE.

He has undergone rigorous training and deeply understands military law, enforcement procedures, and security protocols. Captain Daigle has been recognized throughout his tenure for his strategic thinking, problem-solving abilities, and unwavering dedication to duty, making him a respected leader within the Military Police Corps. His contributions have significantly enhanced his units' operational effectiveness and morale, embodying the U.S. Army's core values.

Resources:

Duty, Honor, and Community: Westmoreland and Taking Back the Narrative

 

Show Notes:

In this episode of the Guardian Mindset Podcast, Attorney Eric Daigle delves into the complex and evolving role of artificial intelligence in law enforcement. Highlighting a DLG Legal Update published in early 2024 on the 'Artificial Officers Dilemma,' Attorney Daigle discusses the balance between intelligence and integrity in policing. He examines AI's potential impact on various law enforcement functions such as predictive analytics, facial recognition, and report writing, while also addressing ethical concerns, privacy issues, and the necessity for clear guidelines and proactive policies. Featuring insights from leading figures and research, the podcast emphasizes the importance of assessing both the benefits and risks of AI technologies in upholding constitutional rights and maintaining law enforcement integrity.

Legal Update: The ‘Artificial’ Officer’s Dilemma: Balancing Intelligence with Integrity in Law Enforcement

DLG Technology Summit 2024

EPISODE SUMMARY:

Does freedom of speech shield menacing threats? Or does the law have the right to step in when verbal threats instill fear and potential harm? We found ourselves in a labyrinth of these questions in our latest episode, guided by the landmark Supreme Court decision on Counterman versus Colorado. We unwind the intricate layers of defining a threat, especially in this digital age, where threats can be disguised behind the veil of anonymity. We weigh the subjective intent of the speaker against the objective perspective of a reasonable person and question which should hold more weight in legally certifying a threat.

RESOURCES:

• Follow DLG on LinkedIn
• Follow Attorney Eric Daigle on LinkedIn
• Training Built for Supervisors & Command
• Perez v. Florida (2017)

EPISODE SUMMARY:

In this episode of the Guardian Mindset Podcast, Chief Liam Duggan joins host Attorney Eric Daigle for an engaging discussion on the future of law enforcement. Chief Duggan, who has recently assumed the role of chief, shares his insights and optimism about the profession.

The conversation begins with Chief Duggan reflecting on his transition into the new position and the invaluable support he received from his colleagues. They acknowledge the current challenges faced by law enforcement and commend the dedication of officers who choose to serve their communities.

Chief Duggan emphasizes the importance of adapting to the ever-changing environment and highlights the resilience and flexibility of law enforcement personnel. He discusses the advancements in technology that can enhance police operations and expresses enthusiasm about the opportunities they present.

The conversation also delves into the mindset of new officers and the significance of staying focused on the present. Chief Duggan believes that the majority of individuals entering law enforcement are service-minded and committed to performing their challenging duties exceptionally. He emphasizes the need for support, including adequate resources and adaptable legislation to address evolving circumstances.

Chief Duggan underscores the importance of character and competency in law enforcement, emphasizing the potential risks associated with lowering standards to meet recruitment quotas. He stresses the significance of acknowledging achievements and establishing accountability within police organizations, while also recognizing the need to support and cultivate future leaders.

Overall, the episode paints a positive outlook for the future of law enforcement, highlighting the unwavering dedication of officers and the potential for ongoing improvement and excellence in the profession. Chief Duggan's steadfast commitment and belief in the excellence of law enforcement professionals serve as an inspiration to both current and future generations.

 

RESOURCES:

• Follow DLG on LinkedIn
• Follow Attorney Eric Daigle on LinkedIn
• Training Built for Supervisors & Command

  ABOUT THE GUEST:

His career began in 1997 with the Burnsville (MN) Police Department before being hired by the St. Paul Police Department 2011 and now the metro area suburb of Prior Lake. Chief Duggan has served in leadership roles for investigations, patrol, vice/narcotics, SWAT, undercover operations, and training. Chief Duggan has a BS in Law Enforcement and is a graduate of the Northwestern School of Staff and Command. He is one of only two police officers in the world accepted to graduate studies in Human Factors and Safety Systems study through Lund University in Sweden. He serves on the board of Advisors for the National Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors Association and as the Director of Training and Development for the Special Operations Training Association. Chief Duggan is a Sr. National instructor for Calibre Press, LouKa Tactical and KFD Consulting and specializes in human performance factors analysis, training force options, firearms, arrest and control, and leadership development. Additionally, he is a certified Advanced Specialist in the Behavioral Analysis of Force Encounters through the Force Science Institute and consults as an expert witness in use-of-force incidents and policing best practices at the Federal and State levels. 

Episode Summary:

In this episode of the Guardian Mindset Podcast, Attorney Eric Daigle discusses the intersection of freedom of speech and video recording in law enforcement. Attorney Daigle focuses on the First Amendment rights of citizens to record and live stream interactions with the police. He mentions a recent decision by the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals that established the extent of First Amendment protections for recording and live-streaming officer interactions.

Attorney Eric Daigle provides historical background on the issue, starting with the landmark Glik decision in 2010, which recognized the citizen's right to record police. He explains that First Amendment auditors, individuals who film law enforcement in public spaces, have become more common in recent years, often challenging police and seeking media exposure. Daigle discusses the challenges these encounters pose for law enforcement and offers recommendations for handling them.

He emphasizes that citizens have the constitutional right to record law enforcement officers as long as they are not interfering with their duties. However, he also highlights that there are limitations to this right, such as considerations of public safety and reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions.

Attorney Eric Daigle stresses the importance of maintaining courtesy, respect, and tact when interacting with First Amendment auditors or individuals recording police. He advises officers to be mindful of their own safety and the safety of others while ensuring compliance with constitutional guidelines. He also encourages agencies to have clear policies in place and provide training to officers on handling these situations.

Overall, the episode aims to provide insights and strategies for law enforcement professionals to navigate the complex landscape of freedom of speech and video recording in relation to policing.

The main topics discussed in this episode of the Guardian Mindset Podcast by attorney Eric Daigle are:

• Navigating the intersection of freedom of speech and video recording in law enforcement.

• Reviewing laws regarding recording police and the issues related to recording police interactions.

• The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals' decision on the First Amendment right to live stream officer interactions.

• The rights of First Amendment auditors and their challenges to law enforcement.

• The First Amendment rights of citizens to record law enforcement officers in public spaces.

• The Glik v. Cunniffe case and its significance in establishing the right to record police.

• Recommendations for law enforcement agencies in dealing with First Amendment auditors and civilians who have the right to film.

• Time, place, and manner restrictions on the right to film police.

• Balancing public safety considerations with First Amendment rights.

• Strategies for officers in maintaining courtesy, respect, and tactfulness during encounters with auditors.

• Officers' duty to ensure officer safety and respond to illegal activity.

Resources: 

• Follow DLG on LinkedIn
• Follow Attorney Eric Daigle on LinkedIn
• DLG First Amendment Legal Updates
• Training Built for Supervisors & Command

About the Host: Attorney Eric P. Daigle

Attorney Eric Daigle specializes in Civil Rights li...

Episode Summary

In this podcast episode, Eric invites Geoffrey Desmoulin from GTD Scientific to discuss video analysis and its applications in various fields. He shares his educational background in kinesiology and engineering, which provides him with a unique perspective on analyzing injuries. He explains how his company combines engineering and life sciences to analyze the force that caused an injury and its magnitude.

Desmoulin emphasizes the importance of starting with the injury and using it to drive the analysis and testing process. The company also employs a feedback loop to ensure consistency with independent sources of information, such as case materials and scientific literature. 

Desmoulin also shares his experiences in communicating technical concepts in court, especially when dealing with violence. He emphasizes the importance of using visual aids and limiting the number of concepts to three to explain arguments effectively.

The podcast concludes with Desmoulin highlighting how they used machine vision to analyze a video of a police shooting incident, highlighting the importance of shape recognition and algorithms for object identification. Listeners are encouraged to visit GTD Scientific's website to learn more about video analysis and the company's operations. Overall, the episode provides valuable insights into the intersection of engineering, life sciences, and video analysis in investigating incidents of violence.

Resources

• Learn more about GTD Scientific
• Science of Violence Training Series
• Follow DLG on LinkedIn
• Learn more about the DLG Learning Center
• Training Built for Supervisors & Command

About the Guest: Geoffrey Thor Desmoulin Ph.D., R.Kin., P.L.Eng., Principal

Dr. Desmoulin is the Principal of GTD Scientific Inc.  GTD offers Biomechanical Consulting Services on behalf of clients throughout North America, as well as abroad.  Focused practice areas include Injury Biomechanics, Incident Reconstruction, and Physical Testing with a sub-specialty in the Science of Violence®. GTD has been retained in significant complex injury litigation cases involving municipal police department use of force, violent encounters, and TASER International to name just a few examples.  Furthermore, landmark testing and shooting reconstruction methodology developed by Dr. Desmoulin was recently upheld as reliable and admissible by the U.S. Federal District Court for the 9th District of California.  This methodology has now been published in the International Journal of Forensic Engineering entitled “Application of biomechanical modeling to police shooting reconstruction”. 

Episode Summary:

This episode of the Guardian Mindset Podcast features guest Jacques Battiste, the newly appointed Executive Director of FBI LEEDA. Discussing the changing landscape of law enforcement and the need for smarter training and leadership, Executive Director Jacques Battiste talks about the mission of FBI LEEDA, the challenges in law enforcement, and the importance of being a leader.

The main topics discussed in this podcast episode are:

• Building community trust and rapport, problem-solving, and shifting from a warrior to a guardian relationship with the community.
• The importance of human capital development and recognizing the catalysts driving issues in law enforcement.
• Balancing work and personal life, owning up to mistakes, dealing with media and social pressure, and the impact of bitterness and hatred in law enforcement.

Tune in to gain insights into the changing landscape of law enforcement and the ways in which policing can continue to evolve to better serve their communities.

Resources:

• Learn more about FBI-LEEDA
• Follow DLG on LinkedIn
• Learn more about the DLG Learning Center
• Training Built for Supervisors & Command

About the Guest

Jacques S. Battiste retired from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, where he accumulated more than 22 years of experience as a Supervisory Special Agent. During his tenure at the FBI, Battiste worked internationally to conduct investigations on terrorism suspects, responded to critical incidents such as the 1996 Centennial Park bombings in Atlanta, Georgia, and USS Cole attack, and served as lead agent on several national security special events in the Washington, DC metropolitan area.

Battiste brings wide-ranging experience. He served as a program manager in the FBI Counterterrorism Division Africa Fusion Cell, and oversaw intelligence analysts developing strategies to defeat terrorism in North and West Africa. 

He is a trained bomb technician, deploying to high-risk locations around the world to dismantle hazardous devices and Weapons of Mass Destruction, and has also served on the Rapid Deployment and SWAT teams. 

He served as a Deputy Constable/Training & Tactical Coordinator for the Orleans Constables Office 1st City Court in New Orleans.

Additionally, he previously served as the Chief of Police for Glynn County Police Department, Glynn County, GA.

Jacques S. Battiste currently serves as the newly appointed Executive Director of FBI-LEEDA.

 

Episode Summary:

In this episode of The Guardian Mindset Podcast, Attorney Eric Daigle interviews Lieutenant Kevin Dillon (ret). Dillon discusses his background in law enforcement and how he developed the combative arrest control program called L.O.C.K.U.P. ® for the state of Connecticut.

Topics Discussed in this Episode:

•  The challenges of defensive tactics training and the importance of time-tested skillsets.
•  Various issues related to police training, including the importance of creating realistic training scenarios, tailored training programs, and role-playing to help retain training information.
• The importance of de-escalation in use of force policies, with a clear definition of de-escalation and the cognitive limitations of active diffusion.
• Quantifying efforts to create a positive perception of law enforcement.
• The challenges faced by police officers in use-of-force incidents, including the need for multiple officers and the impact of fear on their performance.

Resources:

• Learn about Police Combat
• Register Now: Active De-Escalation Strategies
• Follow DLG on LinkedIn
• Learn more about the DLG Learning Center
• Continue Your Education with a Curated Path to Stay Up to Date
• Training Built for Supervisors & Command

 

About the Guest:

Lt. Kevin F. Dillon (ret) is a twenty-five-year veteran law enforcement officer and international law enforcement speaker and trainer. As an instructor of use of force, communications and defensive tactics since 1988, Lieutenant Dillon has developed the internationally recognized L.O.C.K.U.P. ® Arrest and Control System. L.O.C.K.U.P. ® is a comprehensive approach, based on gross motor skill concepts, that actually reduces injuries to citizens and police officers. Lt. Dillon also developed the L.E.A.D.S.-Law Enforcement Active De-escalation Strategies curriculum course in 2007 which is also a nationally recognized communications program. It has been presented to officers throughout the country. Lt.  Dillon, a highly sought-after speaker and trainer in use of force analysis and has trained and consulted civilian and law enforcement use of force issues and programs throughout North America and Europe. Lt. Dillon has trained over 25,000 officers! 

Lt. Dillon has just received the FBI National Academy Associates Science and Innovation Award of 2022 for the development and instruction of L.O.C.K.U.P. and L.E.A.D.S. . The committee voted unanimously as L.O.C.K.U.P. and L.E.A.D.S. is the only DT system they found that is NOT just technique based but on the innovation of quantifying and development of Arrest and Control along with the L.E.A.D.S. de-escalation integration and interleaving. 

Episode Summary

Examining the Impact of Body-Worn Cameras on Memory Recall

Introduction:

In this episode of the Guardian Mindset Podcast, Eric welcomes Dr. Paul Taylor, an experienced law enforcement research and training expert, back to the show to delve into the contentious issue of whether officers should watch video footage before writing their use-of-force reports. Dr. Taylor's expertise in the field offers invaluable insights into this complex topic. The podcast offers unique perspectives from legal and physiological experts, inviting listeners to think critically about this important topic. Overall, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the nuances of law enforcement and the utilization of body-worn cameras.

  Topics Discussed in this Episode:

• Whether officers should watch video footage before writing their use-of-force reports.
• The impact of body-worn cameras on officers' memory recall.
• The risks associated with watching videos before writing reports.
• The limitations of body-worn cameras.
• A recent Supreme Court decision related to the use of body-worn cameras.
• How video footage is used against police officers in court.

  Resources:

• What Happened to the Perception of the Officer?: https://dlglearningcenter.com/what-happened-to-the-perception-of-the-officer/
• Follow Paul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-taylor-phd-845670101/
• Association of Force Investigators: https://www.forceinvestigators.com/
• Follow DLG on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/daigle-law-group-llc/
• Learn more about the DLG Learning Center: https://dlglearningcenter.com/Continue Your Education with a Curated Path to Stay Up to Date: https://dlglearningcenter.com/path-single/
• Training Built for Supervisors & Command: https://dlglearningcenter.com/supervisor-continuing-education-program/

About the Guest

Paul Taylor, Ph.D. Paul Taylor is an Assistant Professor in the School of Public Affairs at the University of Colorado Denver where he studies decision-making, human factors, and system safety in the context of police interactions with the public. He is also the founder and lead instructor for the Association of Force Investigators (AFI). Dr. Taylor has over ten years of practical law enforcement experience including time as a department training manager, patrol sergeant, and use-of-force instructor. He has delivered law enforcement related instruction for academy, field training, and advanced in-service audiences as well as graduate and undergraduate level courses. Dr. Taylor is actively engaged in law enforcement research and training across the United States and internationally.

Managing Public Protests: Navigating Complexity and Ensuring Preparedness Episode Summary:

In this free episode of the Guardian Mindset Podcast, Attorney Eric Daigle and special guest Captain (Ret.) Spencer Fomby discuss the intricacies of managing public protests.

 

Topics Discussed in this Episode:

• The complexities of managing public protests.
• The critical role of comprehensive training for officers and civilian leaders.
• The importance of appropriate equipment and policies in place.
• The significance of experienced commanders who can make crucial decisions in real-time.
• The need for a regional response plan and collaboration between different agencies.
• Utilizing resources like after-action reports and industry guidelines to enhance preparedness and response to public protests.

  Resources:

• Get in Contact with Spencer 
• Follow Spencer on LinkedIn
• Follow DLG on LinkedIn
• Learn more about the DLG Learning Center
• Continue Your Education with a Curated Path to Stay Up-to-Date
• Training Built for Supervisors & Command 

  About the Guest:

Captain (Ret.) Spencer Fomby is the former director of the Boise Police Department Training, Education, and Development Division. He was previously employed by the Berkeley Police Department for 20 years. He has held primary assignments in patrol, narcotics, and crime prevention. He was assigned to SWAT for 18 years as an entry team member, team leader, and tactical commander.

Captain (Ret.) Fomby is a certified instructor in the following disciplines: firearms (pistol, shotgun, and carbine), weaponless defense, impact weapons, Peacekeeper RCB, Gracie Survival Tactics Level 1, active shooter response, ALICE, chemical agents, NFDD, sting balls, 40 mm launcher, FN 303, shoot house and tactical de-escalation. He has created two CA POST approved de-escalation courses. He is also a tactical instructor for the National Tactical Officers Association (NTOA), where he teaches Police Counter Ambush, Advanced Response Police Officer (ARPO), and Policing Political Protests. Captain (Ret.) Fomby was the lead Berkeley Police Department public order instructor. He was responsible for equipment selection, tactical training, less-lethal weapon selection, chemical agent selection and deployment, and mission planning.

Captain (Ret.) Fomby has been recognized as a subject matter expert in police tactics and works on several national projects. He is the section chair for the National Tactical Officers Association Public Order Section. He is assigned to a National Institute of Justice Special Technical Committee on crowd control equipment. He is an SME in crowd control equipment and tactics for DHS First Responder Resource Group. He is an SME in active shooter response for the International Association of Chiefs of Police Collaborative Reform Initiative Technical Assistance Center (CRI-TAC).

Captain (Ret.) Fomby was the 2011 Berkeley Police Department Officer of the Year. He was the team leader of the 2013 Urban Shield SWAT Competition first place team. He is also a Visiting Fellow in Police Science at the University of Derby, U.K. Captain (Ret.) Fomby earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in Administration of Justice from Howard University.