Are you a high-performing executive who wants to earn freedom while keeping your professional edge?
Then the Going Long Podcast with Billy Keels is for you.
This podcast shares the actionable insights you want to make more money, build more freedom, and
maintain the career you've built.
Whether you're building a business on the side, investing your capital, or identifying your passion project, you'll get real stories and tactical strategies from others who've done the same on their terms.
Hosted by international advisor and founder of The Executive Edge Advisory™️ Program, Billy Keels, this is your blueprint for creating income optionality, growing with intention, and protecting the professional momentum you've earned.
With over 550 episodes and more than five years of insights, this show delivers a mix of solo episodes and expert guest interviews.
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From $1.6B CMO to Executive Advisor with Marcus Phillips
Season 1 · Episode 665
Thursday, September 17, 2026 • Duration 43:06
Are you a high-performing corporate executive, VP, or C-suite officer who has achieved massive success, yet feels a quiet, steady pull toward building something you completely own?
In this powerful guest conversation, host Billy Keels sits down with Marcus Phillips, executive advisor, keynote speaker, author, and creator of The Zone Shift. Marcus pulls back the curtain on his 18-year corporate trajectory, culminating as the Chief Marketing Officer of a $1.6B global business unit spanning five continents. He candidly breaks down what happens when you step away from enterprise prestige, revealing why the hardest part of leaving corporate life isn't the financial loss, but overcoming "identity lag" the gap between who you have become and the role you're still performing as. Discover how to leverage core corporate skills like empathy and resilience, navigate AI-driven enterprise changes, and build alternative ventures on a solid foundation without unnecessarily burning the boats.
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
How Executives Navigate New Life Seasons and Build Optionality
Season 1 · Episode 664
Tuesday, September 15, 2026 • Duration 08:30
Are you an overachieving director, VP, or senior corporate leader experiencing a shift in your personal or professional life, feeling the persistent itch to build an asset you completely own?
In this reflective solo episode, host Billy Keels shares a powerful story from a family celebration along the Hudson Bay looking over the New York City skyline—a true "balcony moment" that crystallized why career designs must continuously adapt to life's changing seasons. Whether you're navigating new promotions, international moves, college-bound children, aging parents, or shifting compensation plans, your priorities naturally evolve. Drawing on the ancient wisdom of Heraclitus—the only constant in life is change—Billy breaks down why you do not need 100% of the answers or complete readiness to start building a side venture. Discover how to turn passive contemplation into intentional action, leverage your executive experience, and create a lifestyle where you show up to your career entirely by choice.
What is an executive "balcony moment" and how does it help you audit your current career season?
How do shifting family milestones—from newborns to college-bound kids—redefine professional goals?
Why is waiting to feel 100% ready the number one trap holding leaders back from starting an independent business?
How does the principle "the only constant in life is change" apply to modern enterprise sales and strategy?
What does it take to move from theoretical side-business ideas into concrete execution?
⏱️ Episode Chapters:
00:00 - Reflection on a Family Milestone: A Summer on the Hudson Bay
📘 About Billy Keels & Corporate Optionality
Shifting from Hours to Outcomes: How Tech Dads Trade Overwhelm for Presence - Derek Schutz
Season 1 · Episode 663
Wednesday, September 9, 2026 • Duration 43:00
Are you a senior corporate leader, director, or enterprise tech VP who has climbed to a high-paying salary, yet you find yourself completely exhausted from putting 60 to 70 hours a week into the machine?
In this transparent guest conversation, host Billy Keels sits down with Derek Schutz—a senior director leading a massive services team and a multimillion-dollar account portfolio at a market-leading enterprise software brand. Derek pulls back the curtain on his own profound personal wake-up call, sharing how the compounding physical and psychological stress of corporate "busyness" led him to completely audit his calendar capital. Discover how to utilize corporate execution principles—like tracking lead measures instead of lag measures—to compress your working schedule down to a high-impact 40 hours. Learn how to have direct, proactive conversations with your management team to establish unbreakable professional boundaries, and see how to parlay your enterprise leadership capital into an independent, highly rewarding side project completely by choice, not obligation.
How can a senior tech director utilize corporate execution strategies to compress an exhausting 70-hour work week down to 40 hours?
What are the most effective ways to manage up and set strict availability boundaries with your corporate management?
How do you shift your day-to-day focus from historical "lag measures" to predictive "lead measures" to guarantee professional and personal success?
Why is an environmental and digital reset critical for corporate leaders looking to eliminate unproductive distraction and screen time?
How does a high-performing professional overcome the internal friction and fear of publishing content publicly on LinkedIn?
⏱️ Episode Chapters: Connect with Derek Schutz: Website: 📘 About Billy Keels & Corporate Optionality
Move 37: How to Shatter Corporate Limiting Beliefs with a Beginner's Mind
Season 1 · Episode 662
Tuesday, September 8, 2026 • Duration 11:04
Are you an overachieving sales leader, director, or enterprise tech executive feeling trapped by the assumption that your only choices are grinding up the rigid corporate ladder or risking everything by walking away?
In this thought-provoking solo episode, host Billy Keels explores the profound lessons hidden inside Rick Rubin's book The Creative Act: A Way of Being, drawing a direct parallel between modern career design and the legendary board game Go, a game played for over 3,000 years. Billy breaks down the famous "Move 37" executed by DeepMind's AlphaGo artificial intelligence, a move so unprecedented that it shocked the world's greatest master because it completely ignored 30 centuries of human limiting beliefs. Discover how adopting a true beginner's mind (innocent ignorance) allows you to strip away standard corporate conditioning, break free from conventional linear promotion steps, and execute your own "Move C," allowing you to continuously overperform in your corporate role while simultaneously building a high-impact, independent side venture that puts you in complete control of your time and income.
What is the story of "Move 37" in the game of Go, and why does it matter to corporate leaders?
How do subtle, unexamined limiting beliefs quietly cap an executive's professional potential?
What does it mean to adopt a "beginner's mind" to solve complex corporate and business challenges?
Why is assuming you must choose between corporate performance or business ownership a false binary?
How can you combine past enterprise experience with current curiosity to engineer your own "Move C"?
⏱️ Episode Chapters: 📘 About Billy Keels & Corporate Optionality
Leveraging Corporate Communication Habits to Build Global Career Options - Derek Smith
Season 1 · Episode 661
Wednesday, September 2, 2026 • Duration 37:58
Are you an overachieving director, VP, or enterprise leader who wants to take the high-level communication habits you mastered in the corporate world and turn them into a sovereign, global career?
In this transparent guest conversation, host Billy Keels sits down with Derek Smith—a public speaking coach and veteran MC of over 5,000 events who used his corporate foundation to engineer an international lifestyle spanning 54 houses across three continents. Derek reveals how winning Samsung's content creator competition at the 2010 Winter Olympics served as a turning point, why over 70% of communication is non-verbal when navigating global boundaries, and how asking one life-changing question shifted his entire trajectory. Discover how to leverage corporate team dynamics, overcome the fear of starting late, focus on "Who, Not How," and build a business in your personal zone of genius entirely on your own terms.
How do you transition from an enterprise corporate foundation to a sovereign, global MC career?
Why is non-verbal communication critical when expanding your footprint across international markets?
How do you handle holding a room's energy as a professional Master of Ceremonies (MC)?
What single, life-changing question shifts your career trajectory and overcomes the fear of starting late?
How do you apply the "Who, Not How" framework to stop doing everything alone and scale your impact?
⏱️ Episode Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction to Derek Smith and the Transition from Corporate to Global MC
📘 About Billy Keels & Corporate Optionality
Finding the Right Side Business Model for Your Corporate Skill Set
Season 1 · Episode 660
Tuesday, September 1, 2026 • Duration 13:39
Are you an overachieving director, VP, or senior AE burning the candle at both ends because you're forcing a cookie-cutter side business that doesn't fit your background?
In this highly strategic solo episode, host Billy Keels breaks down why choosing the wrong side venture model leads to intense overwhelm, wasted energy, and a loss of your most critical asset—your time. Drawing from his 26-year corporate career managing $100M EMEA operations for a legacy German enterprise software titan, Billy shares how he built a side asset engine generating $212,000+ per year in additional revenue. Discover how to analyze your current resources using the high-level "invest or build" framework, calculate your exact optionality number down to the decimal place, and trade the limiting fear of failure for a powerful mindset shift: What if it actually works?
How can a senior corporate leader find the fastest side business model to generate quick wins?
What is the hidden relationship between your available capital, required control, and the business path you choose?
Why is knowing your career optionality number down to the exact decimal point critical to stopping the endless work loop?
How does answering the question "What if it does work?" shift an executive's transition confidence?
What does it feel like to spend the last 4 years of a corporate career completely independent of a company paycheck?
⏱️ Episode Chapters:
00:00 - Creating Professional Optionality Aligned with Your Values
01:10 - Reclaiming the Global Strategy: An Overview of 26 Years in Corporate
📘 About Billy Keels & Corporate Optionality
From Cartier to Spain: How This Luxury Executive Redesigned Her Life for Impact - Katrina Logie
Season 1 · Episode 659
Thursday, August 27, 2026 • Duration 31:40
Are you a high-performing senior director, marketer, or brand strategist operating at the pinnacle of international luxury or management consulting, yet feeling an unshakeable urge to redirect your elite corporate execution into your own independent assets?
In this transparent guest conversation, host Billy Keels sits down with Katrina Logie, an international community strategist, startup mentor, and the visionary founder of Be Athletes. Katrina breaks down her professional trajectory, navigating high-stakes marketing, retail, and operational divisions across legendary brands like Christie's Fine Art, Cartier, and Bain & Company. Discover how an international stint working the Olympic Games shattered her conditioning regarding "institutional security" and traditional career timelines. Learn how to navigate family skepticism when stepping off the standard corporate path, leverage your enterprise strategy reps to serve startup networks, and implement a calculated "athlete's mindset" to construct powerful professional choices entirely on your own terms.
How can an executive identify the precise season when institutional security starts to limit personal growth?
What does it look like to transfer top-tier consulting frameworks from firms like Bain & Company into independent ventures?
How do you handle internal and family-driven anxieties when stepping away from highly prestigious global brands?
Why is an iterative, testing-based approach superior to standard perfectionism when building an independent community?
How does integrating the habits, visualization models, and physical disciplines of an elite athlete prevent founder burnout?
⏱️ Episode Chapters: 📘 About Billy Keels & Corporate Optionality
Shifting from Career Success to Personal Legacy: A Lesson for High Achievers
Season 1 · Episode 658
Tuesday, August 25, 2026 • Duration 10:58
Are you a senior director, VP, or elite account executive completely nose-down in your career, chasing corporate accolades, status, and wealth while your family's attention slips away?
In this highly reflective solo episode, host Billy Keels breaks his own rules to make a mandatory recommendation: anyone managing a demanding multinational career needs to watch George Clooney's movie J. Kelly. Following the story of a massively successful, wealthy superstar actor at the tail end of his career, Billy highlights the painful, subtle realities of a high performer who achieved the absolute pinnacle of external validation, only to realize his deepest true desire was simply to capture the attention of his daughters—before realizing he had spent decades being "on" for the wrong people. Learn how to find true harmony over balance, escape the corporate machine's lease option on your life, and intentionally protect the relationships that actually belong to you before time runs out.
Why should George Clooney's movie J. Kelly be considered required viewing for senior corporate leaders?
What is the hidden relationship cost when a high-performing executive focuses entirely on personal status and accolades?
What is the difference between chasing an impossible "work-life balance" versus creating true professional harmony?
How does the corporate machine trick high earners into trading away irreplaceable time with their children?
Why do physical corporate assets go back to the machine while personal relationships remain your only true asset?
⏱️ Episode Chapters: 📘 About Billy Keels & Corporate Optionality
The Subway Wake-Up Call: Engineering Your Career's Next Chapter - Rupinder Mangat
Season 1 · Episode 657
Thursday, August 20, 2026 • Duration 39:00
Are you an overachieving director, VP, or enterprise tech leader who has spent decades climbing the corporate ladder, yet feels an unshakeable urge to stop postponing the personal legacy projects that matter most?
In this transparent guest conversation, host Billy Keels sits down with Rupinder Mangat—a veteran technology executive with over 30 years leading enterprise sales, business strategy, and global initiatives at industry titans like Gartner, IBM, and Microsoft. Rupinder shares her remarkable trajectory as a British expat transitioning into corporate America, revealing the exact moment a near-miss subway injury forced her to stop doubting her value, sign her voluntary retirement agreement, and embrace true schedule sovereignty. Discover how to transfer top-tier corporate assets like "influencing without authority" into independent assets, overcome the emotional friction of surrendering your company badge, and build a vibrant second-act venture that serves underserved professional communities entirely on your own terms.
How does a 30-year tech executive handle the emotional transition of stepping away from Microsoft?
What are the subtle, critical cultural differences between executing corporate strategy in the UK versus corporate America?
How do you successfully transfer enterprise skills like "influencing without authority" into independent entrepreneurship?
Why is separating your individual identity from your corporate company badge essential for long-term career optionality?
How can women executives over 50 overcome self-doubt to launch high-impact independent assets?
⏱️ Episode Chapters: How to connect with Rupinder: LinkedIn: Event and Tickets: 📘 About Billy Keels & Corporate Optionality
Shifting Your Priorities: Why Your Title Can't Buy True Family Time
Season 1 · Episode 656
Tuesday, August 18, 2026 • Duration 11:49
Are you a senior executive or elite tech leader spending all your working hours riding a corporate treadmill, sacrificing deep presence with aging parents or growing children just to secure the next title?
In this transparent and deeply reflective solo episode, host Billy Keels breaks down a powerful life lesson on how life experiences fundamentally reshape a high performer's priorities. Billy recounts his recent 3,925-mile transatlantic investment—flying from Barcelona to the United States for a brief five-day trip purely to celebrate his mother's birthday and watch basketball on the couch with his father. Drawing contrast against his 26-year corporate history managing $100M EMEA operations for a blue-logo German enterprise software giant, Billy breaks down what it truly feels like to exit corporate dependency. Learn how to achieve a lifestyle where you no longer need to beg a boss for personal time off (PTO), how to transition your relationship with your 168 weekly hours, and how to build a predictable pathway to optionality that lets you be fully present for the moments that matter most.
How do an executive's personal priorities radically shift as their parents and children grow older?
What does true time control feel like compared to chasing corporate titles and enterprise perks?
How can a high achiever build a sustainable professional model without needing to request PTO?
What is the reality of battling severe jet lag as a mature professional compared to traveling early in your career?
How do you realign your weekly 168 hours to focus on personal impact and deep presence with loved ones?
⏱️ Episode Chapters:
📘 About Billy Keels & Corporate Optionality
01:10 - The Evolving Phases of Life: Kids, College, Aging Parents, and Promotions
02:05 - The Balcony Moment: Looking Over NYC and Auditing the New Chapter
02:45 - Heraclitus and Constant Change: Aligning Your Career with Life Shifts
03:30 - Why You Don't Need to Be 100% Ready to Start Building Independent Assets
04:15 - Leaning In with Intention: Taking Action in Your Current Season
05:00 - Moving From Theory to Practice: Taking the Next Move Today
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
00:00 - Human Beings vs. Human Doings: Insights from Rick Rubin's The Creative Act
00:45 - The 3,000-Year-Old Game: Introduction to Go and AlphaGo
01:30 - The Inner Game: Why the Real Battle Is Always You vs. You
02:10 - The Legend of Move 37: How AI Broke 30 Centuries of Human Logic
03:20 - The Dejected Master: Why Unprecedented Moves Cause Disruption
04:10 - The Beginner's Mind: Removing Knowledge Blockers and Conditioning
05:05 - The Corporate Ladder Trap: SDR to AE to Director vs. Your Own Path
05:50 - Overcoming the Binary Myth: Overperforming in Corporate AND Building Assets
06:40 - Executing Your Move C: Combining Past Experience with Modern Curiosity
07:25 - Taking Action: Moving from Theory to Practice Today
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
05:39 - The Critical Corporate Lesson: Leveraging Team Dynamics in Business
09:35 - Embracing the Nomadic Lifestyle: 54 Houses and Three Continents
16:05 - Unlocking Global Opportunities Through Non-Verbal Communication
22:41 - What It Actually Means to Be an MC and Hold a Room's Energy
28:39 - The Life-Changing Question That Shifted Derek's Career Overnight
33:27 - Overcoming the Fear of Starting Late & Finding Your Zone of Genius
37:22 - Schedule Sovereignty: Applying "Who Not How" to Own Your Time
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
00:00 - Recording Track Intro: Redesigning a Luxury Corporate Path for Deep Personal Impact
01:10 - The Generation Trajectory: Unpacking Traditional Career Expectations vs. Creative Curiosity
01:54 - Christie's Fine Art & Cartier: Gaining Elite Institutional Experience in London
02:30 - The Olympic Catalyst: How Living in Sydney and London Disrupted Corporate Conditioning
03:00 - Bain & Company: Shifting from the Outside In to Master Organizational Strategy
03:45 - The Startup Jump: Moving Beyond Multi-Layered Corporate Hierarchies
05:00 - The Sovereignty Shift: Moving to Spain and Launching as an Independent Consultant
05:40 - Overcoming the Safety Narrative: Navigating Parental Concerns Regarding Career Risk
06:35 - The Who Factor: Why Your Core Professional Network Dictates Your Long-Term Value
07:50 - Defeating Academic Perfectionism: Embracing an Iterative Solution-Finding Process
08:35 - The Genesis of Be Athletes: Injecting Rigor and Good Habits into Founder Networks
10:15 - Breaking Stagnation: Using Movement and Sport to Shift Mindsets and Get Out of Your Head
11:00 - 6-to-12 Week Sprints: Launching High-Impact Programs for Teams and Leaders
12:15 - Reclaiming Your Freedom and Connecting with Katrina Logie
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
00:00 - Breaking the Rules: A Mandatory Movie Recommendation for Senior Leaders
01:10 - Sunday Reflection: Unwinding on the Couch to Analyze J. Kelly
02:15 - The Superstar Trap: Accolades, Wealth, and High-Performance DNA
03:30 - The Tail End of a Career: What Matters Most to a 60-Year-Old Achiever
04:30 - The Subtle Truth: Realizing You Are Constantly Alone Inside the Machine
05:15 - The European Travel Trap: When Your Family Rejects Your Time
06:05 - Who is Standing Beside You in the End? Agents vs. Family
07:00 - The Lease Option: Why Corporate Fame and Luxury Cars All Go Back
08:15 - Reclaiming Harmony: Intentionally Investing in Those Looking for Your Attention
09:30 - Reclaiming Your 168: Moving from Success Theory to Personal Practice
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
00:00 - Tipping Point: How Life Experiences Rewire Your True Priorities
01:10 - Investing 3,925 Miles Across the Atlantic for a Birthday Celebration
02:15 - Reflecting on 26 Years of Corporate Enterprise Software Accolades
03:30 - The Reality Shift: Aging Parents, Growing Kids, and Long-Distance Realities
04:30 - Reclaiming Time Autonomy After Shifting Through Personal Change
05:40 - The Power of Independence: Traveling Stateside Without Asking a Boss
06:35 - Couch Time with Dad and Car Time with Mom: Reclaiming Precious Moments
08:15 - Mother Time Catches Up: Navigating Jet Lag in an Over-40 Transition
09:30 - Escaping the Corporate Treadmill of Constant Growth and Always-On Stress
11:00 - Moving From Time Management Theory to Radical Personal Practice
If you're a corporate executive who wants to make your role optional, learn how to achieve true control over your career and turn your corporate skills into personal assets.
With 26 years of experience in corporate sales leadership, Billy Keels achieved true optionality through multiple income streams. Today, he has helped dozens of executives build a predictable path to take control of their time and start living their ideal day.
This free ebook gives you everything you need to identify, plan, and take control of your career while building financial optionality, leveraging your skills, and starting to live your IDEAL day - today!
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