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Forever Chemicals
Black-Footed Ferret Productions, LLC
Frequency: 1 episode/7d. Total Eps: 13
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Season 1
lundi 27 mai 2024 • Duration 03:08
In this new ten-part series, we sat down with countless experts from brands like Fjallraven and Outdoor Research along with scientists, lawyers, and law makers that all have a stake in how PFAS is used, and how it is now being eliminated.
Over the course of ten episodes, we’ll investigate the origins, rise, and now phase out of the forever chemicals PFAS (previously known as PFCs). With more companies beginning to understand the dangers of these commonly used chemicals, they’re being phased out to keep up with new laws and to ensure company ethos aligns with production.
However, many consumers still don’t know what they are or why they should care about them. That’s where we come in– to be a direct line to people in and outside the industry and help everyone understand what PFAS are and why we should stop using them.
If you’re wondering how we can make a difference in the fight against PFAS pollution and keep our planet and our health on the forefront of producers minds, tune into Forever Chemicals, coming March 2024.
Fund the Forever Chemicals 10-Part Podcast: https://gofund.me/77aac225
The Poison Detectives
mercredi 1 mai 2024 • Duration 04:54
A new podcast from Canada's National Observer tells the story of a firefighter’s wife and a corporate lawyer in different parts of the U.S. who get pulled into solving separate mysteries.
Something was making cows die and deer haemorrhage to death in West Virginia. That same something could also be giving firefighters cancer – all over the country.
When the lawyer and the firefighter’s wife met, they found out they were working on the same mystery. The mystery was caused by a man-made chemical that environmental regulators should have known about but didn’t.
A chemical that is said to be so toxic it is unclear if any contact with it is safe.
The chemical was created by a corporate giant, and then another corporate giant began using it to provide the world with so-called revolutionary products. Products, it turns out, come with a very steep price.
This is a fascinating story of two people unravelling a ball of yarn that would reveal the poisoning of the world.
Listen to all five episodes now: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-poison-detectives/id1730547253
3. PFAS in the Outdoor Industry: A Performance Chemistry
Season 1 · Episode 3
lundi 11 mars 2024 • Duration 31:53
In episode three of the Forever Chemicals ten-part podcast series, we give an overview of how PFAS is used in modern-day production, and get an inside look at why it became a performance chemistry in the outdoor industry.
Guests featured in this episode:
- Mike Schade, Toxic Free Future
- Ammi Borenstein, Snaplinc Consulting
- Arlene Blum, Green Science Policy Institute
- Stefan Posner, textile and polymer chemist
- Alex Lauver, Outdoor Research
- James Pollock, Marten Law LLP
- Philippe Grandjean, environmental epidemiologist
If you want to learn more about what PFAS are, where they are found, the proven health effects, how you can limit your exposure, up to date news on PFAS, and how to get involved in PFAS regulatory efforts visit
Or
Fund the Forever Chemicals 10-Part Podcast: https://gofund.me/77aac225
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Snaplinc Consulting provided expert fact checking and guidance for the creation of this podcast.
Snaplinc Consulting provides corporate sustainability strategies and ESG support across a broad range of industries including apparel, footwear, home furnishings, software, cosmetics, professional services and more.
Head to snaplincconsulting.com to learn more and contact the experts to guide you through complex topics like CSRD, PFAS, greenhouse gas assessments, SBTi, CDP, EcoVadis, B Corp and many more compliance and certification frameworks.
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Sources
Bloomberg Originals. (Nov 16, 2023). Why 'Forever Chemicals' Are Still Spreading [Video]. YouTube. https://youtu.be/a-Hu4HQvA_U?si=LEfQeRCczWvAsgr3
Henry, B. J., Carlin, J. P., Hammerschmidt, J. A., Buck, R. C., Buxton, L. W., Fiedler, H., Seed, J., & Hernandez, O. (2018). A critical review of the application of polymer of low concern and regulatory criteria to fluoropolymers. Integrated Environmental Assessment and Management, 14(3), 301-306. https://doi.org/10.1002/ieam.4035
Interstate Technology & Regulatory Council (ITRC). (2020, August). Per- and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances (PFAS): History and Use [PDF]. Retrieved from https://pfas-1.itrcweb.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/history_and_use_508_2020Aug_Final.pdf
Natural Resources Defense Council. (n.d.). PFAS Scorecard. Retrieved from https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/pfas_scorecard_r_22-04-b_03_locked.pdf
2. A Brief History of How PFAS Poisoned the World
Season 1 · Episode 2
lundi 4 mars 2024 • Duration 33:46
PFAS are a large class of chemicals that have been used since the late 1930s. What makes them particularly hazardous is that they are persistent and difficult to break down. That means all the PFAS that have even been created still exist today.
In the first episode of this ten-part series, we learned the history of how PFAS was created.
In episode two, we get a better understanding of just how dangerous PFAS chemicals are and how a series of lawsuits brought these health hazards to light.
Guests featured in this episode:
- Arlene Blum, Green Science Policy Institute
- Mike Schade, Toxic Free Future
- Stefan Posner, textile and polymer chemist
- Scott Wilson, Regenesis Environmental Remediation
- James Pollock, Marten Law LLP
- Philippe Grandjean, environmental epidemiologist
If you want to learn more about what PFAS are, where they are found, the proven health effects, how you can limit your exposure, up to date news on PFAS, and how to get involved in PFAS regulatory efforts visit
Or
Fund the Forever Chemicals 10-Part Podcast: https://gofund.me/77aac225
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Snaplinc Consulting provided expert fact checking and guidance for the creation of this podcast.
Snaplinc Consulting provides corporate sustainability strategies and ESG support across a broad range of industries including apparel, footwear, home furnishings, software, cosmetics, professional services and more.
Head to snaplincconsulting.com to learn more and contact the experts to guide you through complex topics like CSRD, PFAS, greenhouse gas assessments, SBTi, CDP, EcoVadis, B Corp and many more compliance and certification frameworks.
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Sources
Belisle, John. 1978. Central Analytical Laboratory Report 6867. Contributed by Sharon Lerner (The Intercept). Retrieved from https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4575547-1978-PFOS-monkey-study
Environmental Working Group. (n.d.). For Decades, Polluters Knew PFAS Chemicals Were Dangerous But Hid Risks From Public. Retrieved from https://www.ewg.org/research/decades-polluters-knew-pfas-chemicals-were-dangerous-hid-risks-public
Minnesota Pollution Control Agency. (n.d.). Industrial wastewater treatment technology. Retrieved from https://www.pca.state.mn.us/sites/default/files/gp3-06.pdf
The Intercept. (2015, August 11). The Teflon Toxin: DuPont and the Chemistry of Deception. Retrieved from https://theintercept.com/2015/08/11/dupont-chemistry-deception/
Toxic-Free Future. (n.d.). Breast Milk Study. Retrieved from https://toxicfreefuture.org/research/breast-milk-study/
1. From Atomic Bombs to Teflon Pans: How the PFAS Controversy Began
Season 1 · Episode 1
lundi 4 mars 2024 • Duration 24:43
In the first episode of this ten-part series, we explore where PFAS came from and how it became a prevalent part of our consumer products.
While the innovation of this class of chemicals has been astoundingly effective in applications like firefighting foams, waterproof rain jackets, and Teflon pans, our appetite for convenience created a toxic chemistry we may have to live with forever.
In the next episode of Forever Chemicals, we dive deeper into how the controversy surrounding PFAS grew into a global health crisis and how it has persisted in manufacturing to this day.
Guests featured in this episode:
- Arlene Blum, Green Science Policy Institute
- Mike Schade, Toxic Free Future
- Stefan Posner, textile and polymer chemist
- Scott Wilson, Regenesis Environmental Remediation
- James Pollock, Marten Law LLP
If you want to learn more about what PFAS are, where they are found, the proven health effects, how you can limit your exposure, up to date news on PFAS, and how to get involved in PFAS regulatory efforts, visit
Or
Fund the Forever Chemicals 10-Part Podcast: https://gofund.me/77aac225
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Snaplinc Consulting provided expert fact checking and guidance for the creation of this podcast.
Snaplinc Consulting provides corporate sustainability strategies and ESG support across a broad range of industries including apparel, footwear, home furnishings, software, cosmetics, professional services and more.
Head to snaplincconsulting.com to learn more and contact the experts to guide you through complex topics like CSRD, PFAS, greenhouse gas assessments, SBTi, CDP, EcoVadis, B Corp and many more compliance and certification frameworks.
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Sources
1. Manufacturing Dive. (n.d.). The history behind 'forever chemicals': PFAS. Retrieved from https://www.manufacturingdive.com/news/the-history-behind-forever-chemicals-pfas-3m-dupont-pfte-pfoa-pfos/698254/
2. Plunkett, R.J. (1986). The History of Polytetrafluoroethylene: Discovery and Development. In: Seymour, R.B., Kirshenbaum, G.S. (eds) High Performance Polymers: Their Origin and Development. Springer, Dordrecht. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-94-011-7073-4_25
3. Teflon II commercials: Historical Reel 2, 1960-70, FILM_1995300_FC43, FC 43, DuPont Company films and commercials (Accession 1995.300), Audiovisual Collections and Digital Initiatives Department, Hagley Museum and Library, Wilmington, DE 19807
http://findingaids.hagley.org/xtf/view?docId=ead/1995_300.xml
4. W. L. Gore & Associates, Inc. (n.d.). The Gore Story. Retrieved from https://www.gore.com/about/the-gore-story#section2
10. The Path Ahead: Remediation and Clean-Up
Season 1 · Episode 10
lundi 29 avril 2024 • Duration 35:17
Throughout this ten-part series, scientists, lawyers, advocates, and product producers all weighed in on our worldwide PFAS problem. While, yes, we have come a long way in understanding the scope of the issue and began moving away from PFAS, at least in the outdoor industry, many questions still remain.
One of the primary questions is, what should we do with all the old PFAS already in the environment?
Guests featured in this episode:
- Scott Wilson, Regenesis
- Philippe Grandjean, Environmental Epidemiologist
- Matthew Eshed, Research Fellow
- Stefan Posner, Polymer and Textile Chemist
- Kevin Myette, Bluesign
- Greg Breitmaier, Mystery Ranch
- Alex Lauver, Outdoor Research
- Regina Goller, Jack Wolfskin
- Ammi Borenstein, Snaplinc Consulting
- Mike Schade, Toxic Free Future
If you want to learn more about what PFAS are, where they are found, the proven health effects, how you can limit your exposure, up to date news on PFAS, and how to get involved in PFAS regulatory efforts visit
Toxicfreefuture.org
Foodandwaterwatch.org
Or
Pfascentral.org
Fund the Forever Chemicals 10-Part Podcast: https://gofund.me/77aac225
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Snaplinc Consulting provided expert fact checking and guidance for the creation of this podcast.
Snaplinc Consulting provides corporate sustainability strategies and ESG support across a broad range of industries including apparel, footwear, home furnishings, software, cosmetics, professional services and more.
Head to snaplincconsulting.com to learn more and contact the experts to guide you through complex topics like CSRD, PFAS, greenhouse gas assessments, SBTi, CDP, EcoVadis, B Corp and many more compliance and certification frameworks.
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Episode Resources
Safer States: https://www.saferstates.org/priorities/pfas/
EPA Drinking Water Standards: https://www.epa.gov/sdwa/and-polyfluoroalkyl-substances-pfas
CERCLA: https://www.epa.gov/system/files/documents/2024-04/pfas-enforcement-discretion-settlement-policy-cercla.pdf
9. PFAS as a Cautionary Tale
Season 1 · Episode 9
lundi 22 avril 2024 • Duration 30:34
Throughout this series, we’ve learned not only about how harmful PFAS is as a class of chemicals but also what the outdoor industry is doing to address the issue. While we may have started too late, we are on the right track now, but the work is far from over.
Guests featured in this episode:
- Alex Lauver, Outdoor Research
- James Pollock, Marten Law LLP
- Mike Schade, Toxic Free Future
- Ammi Borenstein, Snaplinc Consulting
- Eva Karlsson, Houdini Sportswear
- Regina Goller, Jack Wolfskin
- Donna Bruns, Fjallraven
- Martin Axelhed, Fjallraven
- Kevin Myette, Bluesign
- Gabriella Whittaker, PolyCore Solutions
- Kirsten Blackburn, Keen Footwear
If you want to learn more about what PFAS are, where they are found, the proven health effects, how you can limit your exposure, up to date news on PFAS, and how to get involved in PFAS regulatory efforts visit
Toxicfreefuture.org
Foodandwaterwatch.org
Or
Fund the Forever Chemicals 10-Part Podcast: https://gofund.me/77aac225
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Snaplinc Consulting provided expert fact checking and guidance for the creation of this podcast.
Snaplinc Consulting provides corporate sustainability strategies and ESG support across a broad range of industries including apparel, footwear, home furnishings, software, cosmetics, professional services and more.
Head to snaplincconsulting.com to learn more and contact the experts to guide you through complex topics like CSRD, PFAS, greenhouse gas assessments, SBTi, CDP, EcoVadis, B Corp and many more compliance and certification frameworks.
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Sources
Toxic Free Future. PFAS in Stain & Water-Resistant Products Study: Toxic Convenience. Retrieved from https://toxicfreefuture.org/research/pfas-in-stain-water-resistant-products-study/toxic-convenience/#:~:text=Our%20testing%20found%20not%20just,water%20resistance%20are%20in%20use
Resources Mentioned
The Global PFAS ‘Forever Chemical’ Crisis Explained by Lawyer Robert Bilott
Season 1
mercredi 17 avril 2024 • Duration 25:17
If you’ve listened to the Forever Chemicals podcast up until this point or followed the global contamination issue over the last few decades, then you’ll know the name Robert Bilott.
In this exclusive season one BONUS episode, we hear from Robert Bilott on the current state of the PFAS problem. He emphasizes the crucial role of litigation and advocacy in pushing for necessary regulation, making it clear that our involvement is not just important, but necessary.
The New York Times dubbed Robert Bilott, the “lawyer who became DuPont’s worst nightmare” for his 19-year lawsuit exposing the scientific coverups of chemical companies using PFAS and effectively polluting the planet.
In 1999, Robert Bilott was approached by a West Virginia farmer, Wilbur Tennant, regarding a mystery pollutant running off onto his farm, killing his cattle and making his family sick.
Flash forward 20+ years. After winning his initial lawsuit for the Tennants against DuPont and then representing 70,000 citizens in Parkersburg, West Virginia, Robert Bilott continues to forge a path ahead, protecting citizens in the United States and abroad from continued PFAS pollution and contamination.
Fund the Forever Chemicals 10-Part Podcast: https://gofund.me/77aac225
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Robert Bilott
Taft Law Firm: https://www.taftlaw.com/people/robert-a-bilott/
Exposure | Book by Robert Bilott: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Exposure/Robert-Bilott/9781501172823
The Devil We Know Documentary: https://youtu.be/7cCkADnhRqk?si=0cI4FWK0jMMBRp7b
Dark Waters Film: https://youtu.be/RvAOuhyunhY?si=5v4QJO_y__lztRDZ
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Resources
Recent EPA Ruling: https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/biden-harris-administration-finalizes-first-ever-national-drinking-water-standard
Hazardous Substances under Superfund: https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/epa-proposes-designating-certain-pfas-chemicals-hazardous-substances-under-superfund
CA AB 1817: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB1817
Environmental Working Group: https://www.ewg.org/areas-focus/toxic-chemicals/pfas-chemicals
Green Science Policy Institute: https://greensciencepolicy.org/our-work/pfas/
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If you want to learn more about what PFAS are, where they are found, the proven health effects, how you can limit your exposure, up to date news on PFAS, and how to get involved in PFAS regulatory efforts visit
Toxicfreefuture.org
Foodandwaterwatch.org
Or
Pfascentral.org
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Sources
Birsch, S., & Konsmo, M. (Directors). (2018). The Devil We Know [Documentary film]. Atlas Films.
8. Are PFAS-Free Products Possible?
Season 1 · Episode 8
lundi 15 avril 2024 • Duration 33:02
It seems that many brands are moving in the right direction in terms of phasing PFAS out of their products, but one of the many aspects complicating this process is the potential for contamination.
In this episode, we hear directly from leading outdoor industry brands like Keen, Outdoor Research, Fjallraven, and Houdini Sportswear alongside scientists and environmental epidemiologists about how and why PFAS spreads and contaminates products so easily.
Guests featured in this episode:
- Stefan Posner, textile and polymer chemist
- Alex Lauver, Outdoor Research
- Kirsten Blackburn, Keen Footwear
- Ammi Borenstein, Snaplinc Consulting
- Kevin Myette, Bluesign
- Eva Karlsson, Houdini Sportswear
- Mike Schade, Toxic Free Future
- James Pollock, Marten Law LLP
- Arlene Blum, Green Science Policy Institute
- Philippe Grandjean, environmental epidemiologist
- Donna Bruns, Fjallraven
- Martin Axelhed, Fjallraven
If you want to learn more about what PFAS are, where they are found, the proven health effects, how you can limit your exposure, up to date news on PFAS, and how to get involved in PFAS regulatory efforts visit
Toxicfreefuture.org
Foodandwaterwatch.org
Or
Fund the Forever Chemicals 10-Part Podcast: https://gofund.me/77aac225
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Snaplinc Consulting provided expert fact checking and guidance for the creation of this podcast.
Snaplinc Consulting provides corporate sustainability strategies and ESG support across a broad range of industries including apparel, footwear, home furnishings, software, cosmetics, professional services and more.
Head to snaplincconsulting.com to learn more and contact the experts to guide you through complex topics like CSRD, PFAS, greenhouse gas assessments, SBTi, CDP, EcoVadis, B Corp and many more compliance and certification frameworks.
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Sources
Outdoor Footwear: The PFAS Challenge. Retrieved from: https://www.keenfootwear.com/blogs/keen-blog/outdoor-footwear-pfas-challenge
SixClasses. Retrieved from: https://www.sixclasses.org/
7. Phasing Out PFAS in US Apparel
Season 1 · Episode 7
lundi 8 avril 2024 • Duration 35:51
As we learned in earlier episodes, phase-out and regulatory efforts for PFAS were not swift, and they certainly are not complete.
However, because of the recent regulatory changes on consumer goods, specifically in California, many US-based outdoor brands and chemical companies have finally committed to removing PFAS from their products.
Guests featured in this episode:
- Greg Brietmier, Mystery Ranch
- Mike Schade, Toxic Free Future
- Ammi Borenstein, Snaplinc Consulting
- Alex Lauver, Outdoor Research
- Kevin Myette, Bluesign
- Theresa Mckenney, Nemo Equipment
- Kirsten Blackburn, Keen Footwear
- Matthew Eshed, Research Fellow
If you want to learn more about what PFAS are, where they are found, the proven health effects, how you can limit your exposure, up to date news on PFAS, and how to get involved in PFAS regulatory efforts visit
Or
Fund the Forever Chemicals 10-Part Podcast: https://gofund.me/77aac225
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Snaplinc Consulting provided expert fact checking and guidance for the creation of this podcast.
Snaplinc Consulting provides corporate sustainability strategies and ESG support across a broad range of industries including apparel, footwear, home furnishings, software, cosmetics, professional services and more.
Head to snaplincconsulting.com to learn more and contact the experts to guide you through complex topics like CSRD, PFAS, greenhouse gas assessments, SBTi, CDP, EcoVadis, B Corp and many more compliance and certification frameworks.
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Sources
"Balancing Fabric Performance and Sustainability" by Black-Footed Ferret Productions, Outdoor Minimalist, [July 24, 2023], https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/96-balancing-fabric-performance-and-sustainability/id1586174667?i=1000622162915
Bergen, Sujatha. "Columbia Sportswear Eliminate PFAS Campaign Launched Today," NRDC, available at: https://www.nrdc.org/bio/sujatha-bergen/columbia-sportswear-eliminate-pfas-campaign-launched-today
Bergen, Sujatha. "North Face and Timberland Recognize PFAS Threat in Apparel," NRDC, available at: https://www.nrdc.org/bio/sujatha-bergen/north-face-and-timberland-recognize-pfas-threat-apparel
Patagonia. "Say Goodbye to Forever Chemicals," Patagonia, available at: https://www.patagonia.com/stories/say-goodbye-to-forever-chemicals/story-133800.html
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