New York Times bestselling author Jen Hatmaker and her longtime friend, Amy Hardin, have arrived in the middle years — and they couldn’t be happier about it.
Each has navigated the ins and outs of life — from careers, to parenting, marriage (and, for Jen, divorce), spiritual evolution, and the joys of being hardcore Gen Xers.
With each weekly episode, Jen and Amy serve as our “everywoman” guides to all the seasons — past, present, and future — as they walk excitedly and tenaciously into the second half of life.
While Jen and Amy have plenty of wisdom to share — and some pretty hilarious stories, too — they don’t claim to know it all. That's why they invite some of the most interesting and accomplished guests to the podcast, bringing insight, expertise, and understanding to the most relevant topics of our time. From Jen and Amy’s compelling conversations with guests to their witty banter (and the occasional eye-rolls at the absurdities of life), they’re here reassure you that you’re not alone in this game of life.
It’s “For the Love” of all that is good, justified, exasperating, exhilarating, real, fun — and so much more.
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Escaping the Productivity Trap: Kendra Adachi’s Lazy Genius Perspective
Season 65 · Episode 4
Wednesday, August 28, 2024 • Duration 58:17
It’s a brand new season of the show and we are thrilled to have Amy Hardin, Jen’s longtime friend, join us on the podcast for a whole new adventure in laughing at ourselves and learning from our incredible guests.
The Lazy Genius herself, Kendra Adachi, joins Jen and Amy today to challenge our culture's obsession with productivity and time management. Kendra offers a revolutionary perspective: the problem isn't you — it's the capitalistic, patriarchal culture we've all been raised in. Kendra unpacks why traditional productivity advice often fails women and shares a more compassionate approach for managing busy lives.
Whether you're drowning in laundry, juggling work and family, or simply craving a kinder way to approach your days, this conversation will leave you feeling seen, encouraged, and equipped with practical strategies.
Discover how to:
Shift your mindset from pursuing 'greatness' to embracing contentment
Take small, sustainable steps instead of attempting drastic overhauls
Adapt your systems to fit your unique life and needs
Find freedom from rigid to-do lists and unrealistic expectations
Don't miss Kendra's sneak peek into her upcoming book 'The Plan' - it just might change your life!
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Thought-Provoking Quotes:
"I thought I just had to try harder or give up. And those are not the only two options, everybody. There's a wide middle between ‘try hard’ and ‘give up.’ And so that's when I pivoted my online writing to this space to the Lazy Genius Ecosystem, as you called it, which is, 'let's be a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't. And everyone gets to choose what those things are.'" - Kendra Adachi
"I think that we forget that the paradigm that we all live under in a Western, capitalistic, patriarchal society is not one that supports what I'm talking about in many ways. And so, it's hard to do. It's very, very hard because the waters that we live in really do not support this kind of idea. So the problem is not you is what I'm saying. The problem is not you." - Kendra Adachi
"Your to-do list is not the boss of you. It's a tool." - Kendra Adachi
“93% of time management productivity books are written by men.” - Kendra Adachi
Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
Feed These People by Jen Hatmaker - https://shop.jenhatmaker.com/products/ftp-book
The Lazy Genius Podcast - https://bit.ly/4drs4WB
The Lazy Genius Way - https://www.thelazygeniuscollective.com/way
For the Love Podcast ft. Kendra Adachi - https://bit.ly/3WUZdD7
The Plan by Kendra Adachi - https://www.thelazygeniuscollective.com/theplan
For the Love Podcast ft. Emily P. Freeman - https://bit.ly/4cGSRNr
Guest’s Links
Website - https://www.thelazygeniuscollective.com/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thelazygenius/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/2548803345149849
Twitter - https://twitter.com/lazykendra
Connect with Jen!
Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/
Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker
Jen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/
Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker
Jen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker
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Friendship By the Numbers: Enneagram Expert Ian Cron Weighs In
Season 65 · Episode 3
Wednesday, August 21, 2024 • Duration 01:04:08
It’s an exciting time here at the For the Love Podcast and we are excited to share a brand new season of the show, now featuring Jen’s longtime friend, Amy Hardin! Amy’s been popping into the show all summer, and we’re thrilled to welcome her with an official seat across from Jen for all our upcoming episodes!
And what better way to get to know Amy and Jen together all over again than to bring on an Enneagram personality typing expert to give the nod to their beautiful partnership.
Ian Cron, author, podcaster and Enneagram expert weighs in on Jen and Amy’s longtime friendship and gives a peek into how he thinks they will mesh as a podcast duo (tip of the hat to any friendships that are a “three” and “six” combo out there!). They also spend a little time talking about the Enneagram types of their partners—highlighting the dynamics in how different types complement (and sometimes clash with) each other.
If you’re not familiar with the Enneagram, you’re going to be fascinated, and if you are, you’ll love hearing Ian’s incredible insight into many of the 9 personality types. PLUS, Ian for the very first time on any podcast, talks about his brand new book “The Fix: How the Twelve Steps Offer a Surprising Path of Transformation for the Well-Adjusted, the Down-and-Out, and Everyone In Between.”
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Thought-Provoking Quotes:
“What I love about Enneagram sixes is; you are practical, loyal, and very witty—in a wry, wonderful way. Your humor comes out as being very self-deprecating. Then sometimes, when you're on autopilot, you default to a lot of questioning and self-doubting, and sometimes you'll be seen as being skeptical or anxious.” - Ian Morgan Cron
“What determines the health of a relationship has to do with how much self-awareness each of the two people in it have. So two types of people of any Enneagram type or combination can be great with each other to the degree that they're self-aware and they're doing their own personal work.” - Ian Morgan Cron
“I think the friendship exchange between an Enneagram three and a six is really interesting and beautiful. The three’s ambition and drive are tempered by the six’s caution and loyalty.” - Ian Morgan Cron
“People ask me all the time; are there two Enneagram types that really go better together than other types? I'm like--it's all about how self-aware you are. Any two types can do great together to the degree they're doing their work and sharing the journey of self-discovery.” - Ian Morgan Cron
Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
For the Love of The Enneagram - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/series-27/
For the Love Episode on Enneagram Fours ft. Ian Cron - https://bit.ly/3Aa6oPU
Jen Hatmaker Book Club Podcast Episode ft. Hillary McBride - https://bit.ly/3AvW4lL
For the Love Encore Episode ft. Bessel van Der Kolk - https://bit.ly/3YzyRcg
The Story of You by Ian Cron - https://bit.ly/46FWbam
The Fix It by Ian Cron - https://bit.ly/3WzFYyK
The Road Back to You by Ian Cron - https://bit.ly/4dejnPf
The Last Blockbuster - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8704802/
Find out your Enneagram type here: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/
Typology with Ian Morgan Cron - https://www.typologypodcast.com/
Guest’s Links:
Ian's Website - https://ianmorgancron.com/
Ian's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/IanMorganCron/
Ian's Twitter - https://twitter.com/ianmorgancron?lang=en
Ian's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianmorgancron
Ian's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/ianmorgancron/?hl=en
Connect with Jen!
Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/
Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker
Jen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/
Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker
Jen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker?sub_confirmation=1
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[BONUS] Jen Hatmaker Book Club ft. Here for It by R. Eric Thomas
Friday, July 12, 2024 • Duration 37:04
Bestselling author, R. Eric Thomas, wrote “Here for It” in 2020 and it continues to reverberate in the hearts and minds of readers because of its timely topics and riveting personal story—making it a perfect “revisit” for our book club community! With humor and vulnerability, Eric shares about his memoir which is equal parts hilarity and heart–and what it took to write about his intersecting identities as a Black, queer, Christian man.
Join Jen and Eric as they traverse transforming the ordinary into the profoundly funny and insightful.
Book Summary:
In his memoir of essays “Here for It,” Eric attempts to define what it means to be an “other” through his experience growing up in two very different worlds — the urban landscape of his parents home in Baltimore and then the wealthy, white suburb where he went to private school. He tries to figure out how to reconcile all of this, not just these two wildly different racial and class spaces, but also his Christian upbringing with his sexuality as a gay man; the exhaustion of code switching; accidentally finding internet fame; covering the 2016 election and all of that aftermath. Ultimately, he is seeking to answer whether the future is worth it when everything seems to be getting worse. He re-envisions what could be by placing himself at the center of his own story and sharing his experiences with us.
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Guest’s Links:
R. Eric Thomas’s Website - https://rericthomas.com/
R. Eric Thomas’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/oureric/
R. Eric Thomas’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/oureric
R. Eric Thomas’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/R.Eric.T/
Books & Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
Here for It or How to Save Your Soul in America by R. Eric Thomas - https://bit.ly/3KFKdTV
The Preacher’s Wife - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Preacher%27s_Wife
Congratulations, The Best Is Over by R. Eric Thomas - https://bit.ly/3RdAY1E
Kings of Baltimore by R. Eric Thomas - https://bit.ly/3PxKvQ4
Dickinson (TV Series) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8518136/
Better Things (TV Series) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4370596/
The Moth - https://bit.ly/3Vl3YFb
Andre DeShields - https://www.andredeshields.com/
Clue (The 1985 Movie) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clue_(film)
Amy Dickinson - https://amydickinson.com/
R. Eric Thomas’s Here For It News Letter - https://letter.rericthomas.com/
Maxine Waters - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxine_Waters
Ann Patchett - http://www.annpatchett.com/
Festival of Homiletics - https://festivalofhomiletics.com/
Connect with Jen!
Jen’s website - http://jenhatmaker.com/
Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker
Jen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/
Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker
Jen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker
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Dismantling Toxic Masculinity Toward Better Sex with Sex Coach and Therapist Cam Fraser
Season 50 · Episode 4
Wednesday, March 1, 2023 • Duration 01:01:30
For this episode of the Sex series, we’re getting some adult sex education we wished we had learned when we were younger. Specifically around messages young men received around sex, and how this now manifests with toxic masculinity which unfortunately, seeps into the bedroom. Our guest today helps us find ways we can change these sexual narratives. While not all of us are in sexual relationships with men, the reality is that the way in which men perceive their status in the bedroom affects their roles outside of the bedroom. And when toxic masculinity is driving that inner monologue, we all lose. So today we’re addressing the ways this can affect us all, not only the cis hetero men in our lives.
A licensed sex coach and therapist, Cam Fraser teaches sex education for cis hetero men and their partners. As someone who has been hurt by unhealthy masculine culture, he’s passionate about changing toxic masculine narratives that affect us all, and freeing men up to be the fully realized humans they are longing to be (whether they know it or not).
In this episode, Cam and Jen discuss:
Ideas on how to start conversations with your partner about sex
Desire discrepancies in relationships and the difference between responsive and spontaneous libido
Taking responsibility for your own arousal
The spectrum of intimacy inside and outside the bedroom
Unhealthy sexual narratives that feed toxic masculinity
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Thought-Provoking Quotes
"I think that it is a very detrimental story we are telling each other as men--that men's libido is high and unwavering and it's just purely physical, there's no emotions attached to it--men just want sex all the time. And women are telling men that too because we all got that same story." - Cam Fraser
“Overall we see a lot of over-pathologizing, over-medicalizing of male sexuality. I think that's a real issue, but one of the major ones I see is, "Oh, I'm not man enough because I don't want sex all the time," or, "I'm not jumping my partner every five minutes, so I must be broken.” - Cam Fraser
“It's important to understand. There's a difference between physical arousal and mental subjective arousal.” - Cam Fraser
“I think we live in quite a sex and pleasure negative society. And so conversations around sex are still, even though we're pushing for them to be more mainstream, they're still considered quite taboo.” - Cam Fraser
“Conversations around sex can be really charged. If you're able to take some of the intensity out of those conversations and take some of the seriousness out of those conversations and keep it a little bit more playful, keep it a little bit more curious and lighthearted, then that's going to serve you well.” - Cam Fraser
“There is a need for men to diversify their intimacy in terms of how they get their intimacy needs met.” - Cam Fraser
“It's super important to have intimacy needs met in a diverse amount of ways. Because if you don't and then you get into a relationship and your partner is the only person that you can do that with, you're putting a lot of pressure and responsibility on your own as well and that can be detrimental to a relationship.” - Cam Fraser
Cam’s Links
Cam's Instagram - @thecamfraser
Cam's TikTok - @thecamfraser2.0
Cam’s Website
Books & Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Dan Savage Website
Brené Brown's episode with Jen Hatmaker
Trevor Noah on Lack of Male Intimacy
Connect with Jen! Jen’s Website
Jen’s Instagram
Jen’s Twitter
Jen’s Facebook
Jen’s YouTube
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[BOOK CLUB BONUS] Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s “In My Own Words” with Mary Hartnett
Friday, February 24, 2023 • Duration 50:35
Calling all book nerds! Are you looking for a place where your book-loving heart can flourish? Join us at jenhatmakerbookclub.com, and become one of our sisters in nerdiness. For January 2023 we’re excited to connect with an author who worked with Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and penned a book featuring her many writings and thoughts titled My Own Words.. As one of Judge Ginsburg’s official biographers, Mary selected the writings and co-wrote the introductions to each chapter, providing biographical context and quotes gleaned from hundreds of interviews they had the pleasure of conducting the illustrious RGB. She shares about the special moments she had with the judge herself, in addition to some of her more notable writings, which are truly inspiring.
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Thought-Provoking Quotes
“Sometimes I think people become famous and important, and then they say, ‘Okay, now I can throw a few scraps.’ But this was not [Ruth Bader Ginsburg] from the very beginning. Even in her very first briefs, she would cite in the brief, or even put as an author of the brief, someone whose work she found incredibly important with their permission, even though they had nothing to do with the case. It meant a lot to her to give credit to others who had inspired her. “ - Mary Hartnett
“[Judge Ginsburg] did see that especially for younger people, learning the story and in really challenging times to represent this idea that things still can be better and more fair for everyone in the future, I think she got that.” - Mary Hartnett
“[Judge Ginsburg] strongly believed that gender equality is good for everyone. Gender discrimination hurts everyone. It hurts men, women, others, children, our society, our country, our world. And so she firmly believed that.” - Mary Hartnett
“Change wasn't just this intellectual thing that mattered to her. It was changing individuals' lives so that a young girl could hope to be a Supreme Court Justice or an astronaut. Not just a boy could have those hopes and dreams.” - Mary Hartnett
“Everyone can't be Ruth Bader Ginsburg, but everyone can do something on the issues that they care about, which may be completely different than the issues that she cared about.” - Mary Hartnett
Guest’s Links
Mary Hartnett Author Page
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Sex and Consent with Film & TV Intimacy Coordinator Jessica Steinrock
Season 50 · Episode 3
Wednesday, February 22, 2023 • Duration 44:50
As part of our For the Love of Sex series, we are talking to a Hollywood intimacy coordinator about the nitty gritty of consent, the emerging role of intimacy coordinators in Hollywood, and the future of creating consent culture on film and TV sets. There are ripple effects into the wider culture at large that happen when we prioritize safety and consent.
A viral content creator on TikTok and CEO of her own company, Jessica Steinrock is helping change the way we understand consent on TV & film sets. Our favorite quote of hers is ‘’‘Yes’ means nothing unless ‘No’ is an option.”
In this episode, Jessica and Jen discuss:
The historical context of consent in film and TV
How intimacy coordinators cultivate consent
Jessica’s definition of consent
The power of pairing media literacy and sex education
With her own company, Jessica is providing a framework for how we can experience consent in a variety of workplaces and helping change the way an entire industry approaches consent.
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Thought-Provoking Quotes
"When actors have a sense of what's going to happen to their bodies, they know the arc of the scene. They have a time to think about how their character would want or move in those positions. They then layer on their acting onto this movement scaffold. And we create a better story. Because when actors are safe, they do their best work." - Jessica Steinrock
"I love steamy scenes. I love spicy scenes. I am a romantic connoisseur in my media. I love it all. And I think what makes me love it though is knowing that these actors are safe while doing that, these actors are excited to tell those stories. That they weren't coerced into doing it because they think it's going to give them their break." - Jessica Steinrock
“[intimacy coordination] is a relatively new field and a rare field where women are the majority. What we need to see is a more diverse pool of intimacy coordinators. So, that we have more of those voices impacting and supporting women of color, black trans women, actors who have historically marginalized characteristics.” - Jessica Steinrock
Jessica’s Links
Jessica's Instagram - @intimacy_coordinator_
Jessica's TikTok - @intimacycoordinator
Books & Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Intimacy Directors and Coordinators Website
SAG-ATRA Intimacy Coordinator Resources
Connect with Jen! Jen’s Website
Jen’s Instagram
Jen’s Twitter
Jen’s Facebook
Jen’s YouTube
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Your Brain as a Sex Organ with Dipsea’s Gina Gutierrez
Season 50 · Episode 2
Wednesday, February 15, 2023 • Duration 53:37
“Good girls”, “naughty girls”, women with too tight skirts or too high heels. Women’s sexuality is being scrutinized and judged by forces outside of ourselves no matter what form it takes. Our guest today is Gina Gutierrez who seeks to empower women to stop listening to these outside voices and start listening to our inner eros by tuning in and turning on with audio erotica. We could not be more…excited.
TedX speaker with over 1M views, and member of the Forbes Under 30 2020 list, Gina Gutierrez is celebrated for her work focusing on using the imagination to ignite women’s sexuality. With her co-founder Faye Keegan she created the app Dipsea to help women define their desire in an empowered way through audio erotica stories.
In this episode Gina and Jen discuss:
The link between sexual fulfillment and the imagination
Celebrating selfishness in prioritizing sexual pleasure
Uncovering and healing the shame of “feeling different”
How embracing the erotic gives us our power
With Dipsea, Gina is helping provide a framework for how we can safely explore our fantasies and prioritize our own pleasure resulting in us being better lovers, caregivers and friends.
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Thought-Provoking Quotes
"Desire isn't a problem to be solved — it's a fire to be stoked." - Gina Gutierrez
"The brain is the biggest sex organ and everyone can benefit from expanding their sexual imagination." - Gina Gutierrez
“This idea of just giving up on what's possible to make you feel good and excited and make you want to turn towards your partner versus away from them or whatever it means to you, that felt like such a loss.” - Gina Gutierrez
“Nobody ever suggested to us that it was important or valuable to find out what turns us on ever. That was nothing that was ever suggested to us. In fact, it was kind of the opposite. A lot of us came up feeling like this is not something good girls say, we do not have this conversation.”
- Gina Gutierrez
“Maybe you don't have less of an interest in sex than you thought. Maybe you function differently than you thought. And maybe actually products, experiences, and stories that made you feel more comfortable and made your brakes less, 'I don't want that,' stop slamming your brakes so much could make you relax into pleasure." - Gina Gutierrez
Dipsea’s Links Dipsea Website - www.DipseaStories.com
Dipsea Facebook - @DipseaStories
Dipsea Twitter - @DipseaStories
Dipsea Instagram - @DipseaStories
Dipsea TikTok - @DipseaStories
Books & Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Dipsea Website with Jen’s Link (dipseastories.com/jenhatmaker)
Ted Talk by Gina Gutierrez
A Billion Wicked Thoughts
Dr. Emily Nagoski: Come As You Are
Dr. Emily Nagoski - For the Love Podcast Episode
Dr. Emily Nagoski: Podcast
Audre Lorde reads Uses of the Erotic: The Erotic as Power on YouTube
Audre Lorde’s “Uses of the Erotic: The Erotic as Power” Essay Text
OMG Yes - The Science of Women's Pleasure
Jen’s FTL Enneagram Series
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Unraveling the Grip of Shame on Our Sex Lives with Matthias Roberts
Season 50 · Episode 1
Wednesday, February 8, 2023 • Duration 01:05:22
Welcome to our first episode in our For the Love of Sex series! We’re excited to break open this topic and find ways to cultivate what sexual health means for each of us and lay down toxic perspectives surrounding sex in our lives. Today we’re talking about sexual shame and how that can show inside and outside the bedroom. Matthias Roberts is a psychotherapist, author and podcaster. He wrote a book on sexual shame called “Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms” and is committed to helping people find freedom feeling shame around sex.
Jen and Matthias discuss:
A working definition of what sexual shame is
How Matthias’s perspective on sex shifted after coming out in a Christian fundamentalist home
Questions to ask ourselves to develop our own sexual ethic
How sexual shame can affect every area of our life
Ways to stay curious and let go of shame about sex
Matthias’s queer theological perspective on sex
The ways shame can seep into our lives is surprising. Join Jen and Matthias as they unpack, with a compassionate lens, how to stay curious and work toward kicking the shame-filled parts of our sex life to the curb.
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Thought-Provoking Quotes
“Sexuality is also a really core part of who we are. How we experience or do not experience sexuality is identity construing, and it should be. It is part of who we are.” - Matthias Roberts
“We have our shame, we have our sexuality, and then we have our divine, or our beliefs around the divine, and what the divine commands of us or doesn't command of us around our sexuality. And when those things play together, we can get a pretty nasty mix really quickly.” - Matthias Roberts
“So many of us try to push shame aside. That's our default, "Push it aside. We're not going to pay attention to this. This hurts." Or we get shut down by it, but we never quite take the time, or a lot of people don't take the time to really listen and figure out what the shame is actually telling us. And I think that's a really, really important place to start, because if we don't know what we're working with, the particularities of the shame, then how do we actually work with it?” - Matthias Roberts
“I think there's something around queerness and the ways that queer sexual ethic or queer ways of thinking around sexuality can actually free everyone up.” - Matthias Roberts
“What would it mean for our bodies to be good as they are right now? Can we get curious about that? If we feel I have a bad body or that sense of inferiority, what does it mean that my body as it is, right now, in this moment, might actually be good and can bring me pleasure?” - Matthias Roberts
“Shame disconnects us. It disconnects us from our bodies, from our communities, from our partners. Sex connects us. It is ultimately a connecting force. So we can actually use our sexuality as a way to reconnect to our bodies, reconnect to our partners.” - Matthias Roberts
Guest’s LinksMatthias Roberts Website
Matthias’s Facebook
Matthias’s Instagram
Matthias’s Twitter
Resources Mentioned in This Episode
Beyond Shame: Creating a Healthy Sex Life on Your Own Terms
For The Love Podcast Episode with Jay Stringer on Purity Culture
For The Love Podcast Episode with Brene Brown on Vulnerability
Sex, God, & the Conservative Church
Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I
Normal Gossip Podcast
Holy Runaways: Rediscovering Faith After Being Burned by Religion
Connect with Jen!Jen’s website
Jen’s Instagram
Jen’s Twitter
Jen’s Facebook
Jen’s YouTube
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[BONUS] Is It Possible We Might Mostly Agree on Gun Control? Diana Oestreich Weighs In
Friday, February 3, 2023 • Duration 01:08:42
So much is happening in real time in our world, obviously. And as a weekly podcast we can’t always speak immediately into the events that happen around us that need a bigger conversation. So we decided to take the time to look at those happenings, find some people who could walk us through the big events that have happened in the last 4 or 5 months and pop in with some conversations outside of our regular series for our premium subscribers. We’re talking about events that have us rethinking our stand on different issues, legislation being passed or overturned, and justice issues–all in an effort to understand what's at the core of each one and figure out how to react. This week, we’re looking at issues around gun control. Wherever your entry point into this discussion is, it’s something that’s been top of mind for many of us. You may find this shocking, since the divides on this are reported with great zeal via the media, but according to Gallup, a great majority of us believe in the right to own guns. And a whopping 92% of us favor background checks on Every. Single. Gun. Purchase. So, what’s the big hubbub about gun control if we’re nearly all in agreement? Because right now background checks aren’t required for every single gun purchase. Millions of guns have found their ways into the hands of those who are using them for criminal purposes, via sellers who don’t do background checks. Consider that fact alongside the stat that firearm deaths are the highest among teens and young adults between 18-34. How can this be, and how can we change it? That’s what we’re stepping through in this episode with Diana Oestreich, a veteran combat medic who served in Iraq. Diana’s an activist who is a self-proclaimed “peace wager” and she’s returning to our show to walk us through what’s going on and what we can do to change the situation to make the world a safer place for our kids. And spoiler alert: it doesn’t require everyone to have to hand over their guns.
Thought-Provoking Quotes
“Just this year, guns are the number one killer of kids in America. That demands action and I'm committed to it.” – Diana Oestreich
“I totally believe that it is A-okay to own a gun. I come from a family of hunters, I am the daughter, the mom, the sister of hunters. Is there a place in the American battery of rights to own an AR-15–a weapon of war? Do you need a weapon of war? No, you don't. Do you know that a grenade is a weapon of war? It is illegal. No American can own a grenade. And that’s a good thing.” - Diana Oestreich
“The antidote to despair is action.” – Diana Oestreich
“The most powerful thing is that our kids know that they are part of doing good in the world. That's something that will make them resilient to violence.” – Diana Oestreich
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Who’s the Most Important Person In Your Life? Dr. Corey Yeager On Why That Matters
Season 49 · Episode 5
Wednesday, February 1, 2023 • Duration 58:07
This episode of our What If Series asks; what if we looked inward to discover what makes us tick, who are the voices shaping us, and why are we choosing them? We also consider the question; who’s the most important person in your life? The answers most people give are what you’d expect, but our guest this week proposes that we dig deeper to find a different answer that will ultimately change how we approach life.
Our guest, Dr. Corey Yeager, is a psychotherapist for the Detroit Pistons, a life coach, and an author. He appeared in the documentary, The Me You Can’t See, by Oprah and Prince Harry, and recently released a book that poses 40 questions we should be asking ourselves as we create a roadmap to discover our purpose and explore who we want to become.
In this episode Dr. Corey and Jen discuss:
Becoming a psychotherapist for NBA players
How self talk affects our outlook
Why asking intentional big questions can reframe our life
How the timing is now for a love affair with yourself
The most important conversation you can have is the one with yourself. Dr. Corey gives us the guidance and encouragement to do just that. Join Jen and Dr. Corey in an insightful discussion of self love, self talk, and staying curious.
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Thought-Provoking Quotes
“Most people have never thought about being a genius, ever. They would tell you, ‘I'm not a genius. I'm not a genius.’ But if someone says, ‘No. Be still. Think through this. Yes, you do have a genius. What is it?’ If you had to sit with that and play with that and grind with that, it would produce ... And actually not just the answer. The answer is not the key. The process towards the answer. The things that you play with, that you work through, that you cried through, that you laugh about. That is what we want more of." - Dr. Corey Yeager
“I believe that at about nine, 10, 11, up into the 12, 13 year old range, we are handed a set of values. Our people around us, my grandparents, my mom, dad, my brother, they handed me a set of values. I didn't really get much say in it. They handed them to me and I agreed with it because I love my people. So then after I'm 12, 13, 14 years old, I move into the world holding those values, moving through the world with those values and never really re-engaging or checking in with myself to say, does that still work for me?.” - Dr. Corey Yeager
“Discomfort should be an indicator that I'm growing into something that is quite important. So I think this indicator is something that will give us a signal.” - Dr. Corey Yeager
“I submit that it is time for us to have a love affair with ourselves. I need to love me. And I'm glad my wife loves me and I'm glad my mama loves me and my kids love me. I'm glad, Jen, that they love me. But the most important love that I'm going to have is mine. If you don't know yourself, it's very hard to love yourself.” - Dr. Corey Yeager
“So instead of using jealousy and just letting it sit, how about if we looked at those jealous moments, understood it as desire, and allowed that to become a GPS that told us where we wanted to head.” - Dr. Corey Yeager
“We all hold the answers to everything we need. Everything that happens in my life today, I am fully equipped for. Anything that occurs, I'm fully equipped for, for this moment. And if we trust that, if we understand our lives as such, then we can move with confidence.” - Dr. Corey Yeager
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Resources Mentioned in This Episode
How Am I Doing: 40 Conversations to Have with Yourself
The Me You Can’t See
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