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E75: Michael Girdley (@girdley) needs no introduction. He's a HoldCo legend.

Today, host Yong-Soo (@YongSooChung) sits down with Michael to discuss how he has built a successful HoldCo. We talk about Michael's "Right People, Right Structure, Right Mission" framework, which he uses to build all of his businesses. Michael shares how to find the best people, set up your business the right way, and get everyone excited about the same goal.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- PHC Organization Structure
- How to Propel the Business into Gear
- How to Build Your Own Holdco of Multiple Businesses
- 'Right People, Right Structure, Right Mission' Framework

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EXCERPTS:

The Journey: "And what I really discovered was that there's this interesting inflection points in people's lives to when they should sign up to be CEOs of different types of businesses." — Michael Girdley (06:24)

Joyful Career: "I think what people should be doing is thinking about the life they wanna live and the things they wanna be doing, and then build companies around that... joy comes from getting to do things that you really love. So build your business around things that give you joy that you get to do." — Michael Girdley (36:40)

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How to Hire the Best Operators for Your Personal HoldCo

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E74: Have you ever wondered how a person can flip their life's script from constant struggles to having a multi-million dollar business?

Today, host Yong-Soo (@YongSooChung) has a rich conversation with successful entrepreneur Tim Stoddart (@TimStodz), the proud owner of Copyblogger Media.  He discusses his incredible transition from a troubled youth in Philadelphia to a sober entrepreneur with a multi-million dollar Personal HoldCo portfolio.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- How to Find Your Purpose
- How to Effectively Write Online
- Three Criteria for Choosing Businesses
- How to Replicate Models to Build and Scale Businesses

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Foundation: "I write and I delegate. I write because I think being a good writer is the most valuable skill that you could ever really have. And I delegate because I've learned that as you grow a company, it's the most foundational thing you could ever do." — Tim Stoddart (04:03)

Wealth Creation: "Here's where my head goes. I'm not bored at all. And there's a part of me that thinks you want to get out before you get bored. Right. Because then like you have leverage that you don't need to sell. Like I never want to get in a position where I need to sell something." — Tim Stoddart (21:45)

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E65: In today's episode, I revisit and remake one of the popular episodes to date and to be honest, one of the most important concepts that all founders should know - the I – We – They Framework, which has accelerated my business growth and could do the same for yours.

I'm sharing this framework that I developed to help me gain clarity on what I need to work on depending on the stage of my business. I wish that someone had taught me this framework 8 years ago when I first launched my first business.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- How to Delegate Properly
- 3 Stages of Growth for Every Business
- How to Promote a Culture of Ownership
- What Systems You Need to Scale Your Business

This episode distills down many years of my own entrepreneurial experience into one short episode. Don't miss it!

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Business Growth Phases: "In the 1st phase, you were a newborn, an infant, a toddler, flailing and grasping at everything and trying to gain a basic understanding of your business. In the 2nd phase, you're a child, making friends and allies and building relationships with the people around you, which means now it is time for you to grow, both literally and figuratively." — Yong-Soo Chung (18:28)

Building an Ownership Culture: "Each employee should believe that they own a certain part of your business, and they are a 100% responsible for that part of the business. Just make sure that you aren't causing any decision making bottlenecks at the company when you do this." — Yong-Soo Chung (25:52)

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Episode 25 - How To Turn Your Side Hustle Into a Million-Dollar Business as a Creator

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E64: In the world of startups, everyone wants that magic formula to get their business off the ground and scaling fast.

But all too often, business plans end up as complicated, unwieldy documents that feel overwhelming to create and follow.

Today, host Yong-Soo (@YongSooChung) goes behind the scenes with Brandon White (@BrandonCWhite). He generously shared his unique 11-slide business framework with us. Inspired by the simplicity of four baseline elements jotted down on a napkin, Brandon leads us through the ins and outs of his clever road map, unlocking the potential to simplify even the most complex of business concepts.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- 4 Key Ingredients of a Business
- Importance of a Good Elevator Pitch
- The 11-Slide Business Plan Framework
- How to Clearly Define a Problem and Solution

Don't miss out on this one!

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Efficient Business Planning: "If you can build this framework 11 slides, you basically are ready to build a new company or launch a new product or service. And you could be an intrepreneur and easily use this too. And that's sorta how it came up. It's a mix and match of all of my experience in failures and and what worked." — Brandon White  (01:08)

The Four Principles: "We sit down and he pulls out a pen, flips the napkin over and he's like, writes down four things, product, people, market and financing. He said, let's build your plan right here. That was really my first lesson on the quote, air quotes for those of you listening, the modern business plan or framework." — Brandon White (05:05)

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Unlocking the Power of the MAPS Framework: Mindset ➜ Audience ➜ Product ➜ Scaling

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E63: Happy Holidays! We're taking a one-week break from our regularly scheduled programming. But, we're not leaving you high and dry this week!

I was fortunate enough to be invited to my friend and fellow entreprenuer Brandon White's (@BrandonCWhite) recording studio in Half Moon Bay a few weeks ago. If you can believe it, we talked for over 2 hours! We dove deep into several topics including the inflection points of my own entrepreneurial journey. We also went into depth about Personal Holding Companies and how Brandon essentially has one himself!

This episode brings actionable insights on audience building, creating irresistible product offers, and achieving success in the midst of uncertainty.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- Importance of Networking in Business
- The Importance of Building Trust Online
- How to Build a Personal Holding Company
- Social Media Strategies for Business Growth

This episode is not to be missed!

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Importance of Delegation in Entrepreneurship: "You're monitoring, but you and you're there in case they need to. They need you for something, but you're not in the day-to-day operations, and that's where you wanna be ultimately." — Yong-Soo Chung (38:14)

Building Trust Online: "Building trust is probably the hardest thing to do online right now because there's a lot of crazy people out there, and, they're all saying crazy stuff. And if you can build trust, that will make it so much easier for you. It just open a lot of doors." — Yong-Soo Chung (01:51:20)

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E62: Ever scratch your head wondering what business you should start next? Yeah, we've all been there.

Today, host Yong-Soo (@YongSooChung) takes us on a solo flight as he unravels the simple decision-making process that led him to create his successful businesses. From his venture into startups after Wall Street to the unexpected success of Urban EDC. He shares his invaluable insights and practical advice on identifying micro and macro forces to help you succeed, validating business ideas, and creating your luck in entrepreneurship.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- Finding Your Niche
- How to Turn Passion into Profession
- How to Identify Micro and Macro Forces
- Importance of Leveraging Social Platforms

This episode is a real game-changer!

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Economic Forces and Personal Development: "Micro forces are internal motivations that add up over time and space to give you direction. Macro forces on the other hand are beyond your control and determine how much momentum your idea will have when you launch it." — Yong-Soo Chung (03:32)

Identifying Personal Entrepreneurial Opportunities: "Because what you buy is often a pretty good indicator of what might make a good entrepreneurial venture for you... Money and time are the two resources that determine literally everything about our lives. So ask yourself, what do I spend my free time doing? Chances are the answer to this question will intersect a lot with your credit card statement."  — Yong-Soo Chung (06:07)

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E61: Many entrepreneurs out there who are hustling to build their online presence often hit a roadblock in their creators journey.  Like, they're missing a trick that could change the game for them. Growing your audience? That's no walk in the park. So many creators end up feeling stuck.

Today, host Yong-Soo (@YongSooChung) sits down with the amazing Parker Worth (@worth_parker), who went from being dead broke to launching a storytelling course that earned him an amazing $22,000! He shared invaluable tips and tricks that are guaranteed to skyrocket your approach to building your brand's story.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- Art of Storytelling
- Power of Personal Network
- How to Use Storytelling for Business
- How to Create Genuine Relationships Online

Trust me, this episode is the real deal.

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Power of Storytelling: "So it's like this multicentral, multidimensional skill that not only applies to communication, but in business. It's in marketing. It's in education. It's literally everywhere and it's a skill that overlaps into everything." — Parker Worth (04:42)

The Essence of Storytelling: "A story requires both a speaker and a listener, the storyteller and an audience."  — Yong-Soo Chung (23:02)

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Episode 39 - $250 Million Dollars in Sales: Colin Chung's Copywriting Secrets Revealed

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E60: How did a simple credit-card 'trick' post lead to massive audience growth?

It all started with my X post about living in San Francisco with a $0 salary. Yeah, you heard that right - a $0 salary in one of the most expensive cities. And guess what? People lost their minds over it. My socials were a wildfire of comments, DMs, and yeah, even some haters throwing shade.

Here’s the fun bit: I know exactly why that post resonated.

Today, I'm diving deep into the topic of finding your niche and how it can skyrocket your audience growth. I'll be sharing my journey and the three-step process I used to discover my niche, gain a 25% jump in my audience in just nine days, and establish myself as an authority in my field.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- How to Find Your Niche
- How to Leverage Your Expertise
- Understand Niche Demand and Supply

This episode is a solo journey of discovery!

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Finding Your Niche: "It's one thing to build up expertise in a subject and another thing entirely to be acknowledged as the expert." — Yong-Soo Chung (08:54)

Building Trust: "The secret ingredient here, and really isn't a secret to be honest, is trust."  — Yong-Soo Chung (09:33)

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Episode 53 - The Rise of Personal Holding Companies: Exploring the Future of Entrepreneurship

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E59: What does it really take to go viral on social media?

In our digital era, choosing the right platform for your business can be overwhelming. Founders face immense pressure to build a substantial online presence and audience.  Today, host Yong-Soo (@YongSooChung) has a special guest, Michelle Thames (@michellelthames), a renowned Marketing and Monetization Strategist. She is known for her influential work with giants like Toyota, Subway, and Lenovo.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- How to Go Viral
- Power of Quality Followers
- Personal Brand vs. Business Brand
- Master the Art of Emotional Marketing Techniques

This episode is not to be missed!

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Marketing Strategies: "I believe all marketing is the same across the board for all businesses. Right? Where it really comes into play is your specific niche and your specific target audience. Definitely, both ways of doing business, product based, service based, are successful, well, but it I think it really boils down to what platforms you're using." — Michelle Thames (06:22)

Social Media and CEOs: "You should share things, maybe you smell a new fragrance that, you know, you're putting in your product or you went to a trade show and you're trying to get new materials, things like that a CEO would be doing that people would be interested in. You never know what will relate with people."  — Michelle Thames (30:30)

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E58: How do you get your podcast from 0 to 36,000 downloads in just a year? I did just that!

Starting from scratch isn't easy, especially in the world of podcasting. I had zero listeners, a limited budget, and countless people saying I was doing it all wrong.

Just to give you an idea... I spent $27,000 just on production costs!

When I started my podcast journey, everyone around me had advice. Most said, "Save your money on production." But, call me crazy, I ignored them! I poured everything into 57 episodes, investing in the quality of the show.

Today, I'm revealing 30 lessons I learned growing my podcast over the past year into 5 Pillars of Podcasting.

On today’s episode, you’ll learn:

- The 5 Pillars of Podcasting
- Paid Advertising vs. Organic Marketing
- How to Choose the Right Guests for Your Podcast
- Why 'Packaging' an Episode is More Important Than You Think

Let's get down to business!

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How I Create Content: "Writing my episodes helps me express my thoughts in a clear and concise manner.  Basically, write the script as if you're writing a screenplay, because you will essentially be using the script to perform it on the mic when you record it."  — Yong-Soo Chung (09:55)

Power of Podcast Listeners: "In all this time I have been podcasting, I have noticed that podcast listeners are some of the most dedicated, loyal, and attentive listeners I've come across. They're incredibly tuned into everything you say." — Yong-Soo Chung (20:10)

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How I Stacked 5 Growth Levers to Grow My Newsletter to 10,000 Subscribers

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