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Bret Weinstein speaks with Harry Fisher, an experienced paramedic, about what he witnessed before, during and after COVID-19 and the vaccine rollout.

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988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: https://988lifeline.org

Free and confidential helpline for individuals and families facing mental disorders: https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/helplines/national-helpline

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Today we begin with Nick Fuentes—how did he go from a guy with Jewish friends, to someone who is proudly anti-Semitic? Why does “anti-Semitic” now have so many meanings? What are the differences between preference, discrimination, and bigotry? Then: Bill Gates changes his tune on climate change—or does he? His new memo still sounds the alarm about Carbon, but also privileges his pet projects of vaccinating the world and handing agriculture to the technologists. Finally: manta rays, how smart they are, how they respond to mirrors, and how much time they spend at the spa.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Fuentes on Tucker Carlson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efBB0D4tf1Y

Bret on dual citizenship: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1825602620192698812

Speak of the Devil: How Demonizing "Whiteness" Spreads White Nationalism – Bret in 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1sJgjG5AF4&t=227s

Bob Murphy analyzing Fuentes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSDs_2narcw&t=698s

Clipped by: https://www.youtube.com/@hamannature

Bill Gates memo: https://www.gatesnotes.com/home/home-page-topic/reader/three-tough-truths-about-climate

Ari & D’Agostino 2016. Contingency checking and self-directed behaviors in giant manta rays: Do elasmobranchs have self-awareness?. Journal of Ethology 34(2): 167-174:https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10164-016-0462-z

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Today we discuss MAHA, vaccines, Covid, autism, and ostriches. Senator Ron Johnson held a hearing on the corruption of science, at which Jake Scott (MD), Toby Rogers (PhD), and lawyer Aaron Siri testified about vaccine safety testing and the relationship between vaccines and autism. The new MAHA Strategy report attributes poor diet, aggregation of environmental chemicals, lack of physical activity, chronic stress, and overmedicalization to the decline in children’s health. Meanwhile, people who have been fooled by the fear campaign celebrate getting their newest Covid boosters. And in Canada, ostriches are at risk of being killed because of a misunderstanding of immunity, but people are fighting back. The immune system that defends the body politic is discovering how to defeat the infection. The battle is over the public consciousness.

While we were livestreaming, news broke that Charlie Kirk was shot during an event in Utah and sadly passed away shortly after. 

“Charlie Kirk was a beautiful person. He died engaging his foes honorably. I truly hope he’s right about the universe and is receiving his reward. I’m beyond heartbroken for his lovely family—we must take care of them. Let’s live up to his example.” – Bret Weinstein

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Mentioned in this episode:

Congressional hearing: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/hearings/how-the-corruption-of-science-has-impacted-public-perception-and-policies-regarding-vaccines/

Childhood vaccines aren’t tested against placebo: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/childhood-vaccines-arent-tested-against

MAHA Strategy report: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/MAHA-Report-The-White-House.pdf

Covid boosters to show RFK: https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/1964562477716558123

Universal Ostrich Farm at Rebel News: https://www.rebelnews.com/breaking_b_c_ostriches_temporarily_saved_from_cfia_cull_by_interim_stay_order

Ostriches - Politico: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/15/why-rfk-jr-wants-canada-to-pardon-400-ostriches-00455360

Ostriches - Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/universal-ostrich-farm-canada-jfk-oz-f6548a6a

Ostriches - WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/08/22/ostrich-bird-flu-canada-cull-rfk/

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In this 233rd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

In this week’s episode, we discuss The Hope Accord, which calls for the “immediate suspension of Covid-19 mRNA vaccine products.” We encourage you to sign it. Then: wisdom from Charlie Munger on why we should prefer a world in which some people are not compensated for their losses (even if they didn’t deserve to lose), over having gameable systems in which cheaters flourish. Then: how the NYT stacks the deck in favor of sunscreen, by asking oncologists and dermatologists. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Finally, how chytrid fungus has wiped out frog populations and species across the world; how fever is used by endotherms like us to clear infections; and new research that finds that frogs like frog saunas, which not only feels great, but helps them clear fungal infections. The through-line: human hubris intervening in complex systems often ends badly.

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Mentioned in this episode:

The Hope Accord: https://thehopeaccord.org

Poor Charlie’s Almanack: https://www.amazon.com/Poor-Charlies-Almanack-Charles-Expanded/dp/1578645018

The New York Times consults experts on the value of sunshine vs sunscreen: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/well/sunscreen-vitamin-d-skin-cancer.html

Lindqvist et al 2016. Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major causes of death: A competing risk analysis of the melanoma in southern Sweden cohort. Journal of Internal Medicine, 280(4): 375– 387: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/joim.12496

Weldon et al 2004. Origin of the amphibian chytrid fungus. Emerging infectious diseases, 10(12): 2100: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3323396/pdf/03-0804.pdf

Waddle et al 2024. Hotspot shelters stimulate frog resistance to chytridiomycosis. Nature: https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-024-07582-y

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In this 232nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

In this week’s episode, we discuss the 248th anniversary of the founding of the United States, with readings from Common Sense and the Declaration of Independence. Then: deep state vs. shallow state, and how it came to be that news = New York Times ^-1, and health = CDC^-1. Discussing the biggest story of 2020—the corruption and affiliations of what would become the first family of the U.S.—was considered a moral failure at the time. Finally: feminism fails in a spectacular show of rugby and lingerie (as Meghan Murphy said: “Modern feminism wants women either in burkas or p*rn gear”), and we discuss why WNBA star Caitlyn Clark is being competed with in the way that she is.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Common Sense (Thomas Paine, 1776): https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf

Declaration of Independence: https://uscode.house.gov/download/annualhistoricalarchives/pdf/OrganicLaws2006/decind.pdf

The Standard on rugby players x lingerie: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/team-gb-rugby-stars-rugby-sevens-paris-olympics-tokyo-b1168015.html

Linda Blade weighs in: https://x.com/coachblade/status/1808125106440323228

Lingerie company x DEI: https://www.bluebella.com/pages/idea

Heather on Competition, and how it differs between the sexes: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/competition1of2

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Lenore Skenazy is “America’s Worst Mom”, founder of Free Range Kids and President of Let Grow. Bret talks to her about parenting in an era of zero risk.

Find Lenore on X: https://x.com/FreeRangeKids  (@FreeRangeKids)
Find Let Grow at their website: https://letgrow.org/

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In this 231st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

In this week’s episode, we discuss the Supreme Court’s decision in Biden v Missouri, and its implications for free speech and censorship; the presidential debate that will exclude Kennedy; and the release of Julian Assange—all possible tactics to control public conversation. Also: what does an AI deep fake of Dave Chappelle suggest about the future of comedy, and the role of humor in human interactions? Finally: a meandering tale of cars, border guards, and leaping water vipers, culminating in discussion of new research out of Madagascar on jumping leeches.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Supreme Court Opinion, Missouri v Biden: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-411_3dq3.pdf

Kennedy’s simulcast during the presidential debate: https://therealdebate.com

Julian Assange released: https://x.com/Stella_Assange/status/1805912602482291195

AI deep fake of Dave Chappelle: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1804609027911147675

Fahmy & Tessler 2024. A jumping terrestrial leech from Madagascar. Biotropica:https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/btp.13340

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In this 230th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

In this week’s episode, we discuss air quality in Los Angeles, and how California led the way in making catalytic converters standard in cars across the United States. Now, that regulatory apparatus is being used for less honorable ends, as legislators consider mandating the inclusion of folic acid in all tortilla products. We discuss pre- vs post-industrial diet, what mother’s milk is for, whether adult Americans are sleeping well, and how reductionism helped get us into this mess. Collectively, we have a complicated mindset, mapped on to a complex system. Then: the Pentagon funded an anti-vax campaign in the Philippines during Covid. At the same time that Americans who were hesitant about the Covid vax were demonized and targeted, the government was creating vaccine hesitancy in other parts of the world. The Cartesian crisis continues.

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Mentioned in this episode:

LA Times: California wants to mandate folic acid in tortillas to help babies. Why that’s bad: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-22/tortillas-folic-acid-corn-masa-california

Reuters Investigation: Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/

Robinson et al 2022. Factors contributing to vaccine hesitancy and reduced vaccine confidence in rural underserved populations. Humanities and Social Sciences Communications, 9(1): 1-8. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9702767/

General Dynamics IT: https://www.gdit.com

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In this 229th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

In this week’s episode, we discuss empathy, sympathy, and theory of mind; corporate personhood, psychopathic behavior, and the limitations of humans; kin selection, and reciprocity, both direct and indirect. Then: utopias, and why they fail, from the hero of Er in Plato’s Republic to the Singularity. And we discuss the human need for story, which exists next to, and perhaps deeper than, our need for analysis and logic.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Lahti and Weinstein 2005. The better angels of our nature: Group stability and the evolution of moral tension. Evolution and Human Behavior, 26(1): 47-63: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=c5669ae3f2b5ba89967ab466b1095ab9c6d99c8c

DarkHorse Evolutionary Lens #128: Wouldn’t Put It Past ‘Em: https://rumble.com/v4zrlvl-the-228th-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html

Angus Fletcher, professor of story science, FAQs: https://www.angusfletcher.co/faqs

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In this 228th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

In this week’s episode, we discuss the WHO, International Health Regulations, and this week’s rally in Geneva. Also: major concessions in the Covid narrative. And: avian flu (H5N1). Finally: on the joys of motorcycling in the Alps with one’s son.

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Mentioned in this episode:

Tedros tweet: https://x.com/DrTedros/status/1796993038926897205

Chan in the NYT on Covid origins: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/03/opinion/covid-lab-leak.html

The Telegraph on excess deaths in 2020 – 2022: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/04/covid-vaccines-may-have-helped-fuel-rise-in-excess-deaths/

Mostert et al 2024. Excess mortality across countries in the Western World since the COVID-19 pandemic: ‘Our World in Data’ estimates of January 2020 to December 2022. BMJ Public Health 2024;2:e000282. https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/bmjph/2/1/e000282.full.pdf

The WHO on avian flu: https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/influenza-h5n1

McCollough Substack on avian flu, June 4: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/breaking-publication-proximal-origin

Hulscher et al 2024. Proximal Origin of Epidemic Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5N1 Clade 2.3.4.4b and Spread by Migratory Waterfowl. https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202406.0060/v1
Murawski et al 2024. Highly pathogenic avian influenza A (H5N1) virus in a common bottlenose dolphin (Tursiops truncatus) in Florida. Communications Biology, 7(1)476.: https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-024-06173-x.pdf

Elsmo et al 2023. Pathology of natural infection with highly pathogenic avian influenza virus (H5N1) clade 2.3. 4.4 b in wild terrestrial mammals in the United States in 2022. BioRxiv, 2023-03.: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.03.10.532068v2.full.pdf

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