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Why AI Could Be the Biggest Shift in Music History | Bobby Owsinski's Inner Circle Ep. 597

Episode 597

mardi 4 novembre 2025 • Duration 30:03

🎙️ Is AI the biggest disruption the music industry has ever seen?

In this episode of Bobby Owsinski's Inner Circle, Bobby welcomes Matt Adell, COO of Musical.ai, a trailblazer in bridging the gap between rightsholders and AI developers. With a career spanning Napster, Beatport, and Native Instruments, Matt offers deep insight into the seismic shift AI is bringing to music - bigger than file sharing or streaming. He explains how attribution, fair compensation, and licensing are being redefined for a new digital era.

This episode is packed with hard-earned wisdom, music tech history, and a clear-eyed look at where we’re headed next. If you want to understand what’s really going on in music and AI, this is essential listening.

Key Takeaways:

• Why AI’s impact on music is bigger than file sharing or streaming
• How Musical.ai connects rightsholders and AI companies in licensed environments
• Why artists should get paid based on how their work influences AI outputs
• The dangers of unmanaged AI training on copyrighted content
• Why creative outputs are easier to attribute than factual ones
• The oversupply of music and its economic implications for artists
• Why music's shift to streaming wasn't a loss—it was a win for consumers
• The future of fair licensing in AI-driven content creation
• Matt’s unique career path from punk rock drummer to tech executive
• His personal message about sobriety and finding balance

Best Moments:

00:02:05. “AI does not think. It is a giant calculator.”
00:04:03. “Unmanaged, it was an existential threat to copyright owners, to musicians, to composers.”
00:06:37. “Depending on what someone output, it's going to be more or less similar to each piece of training data.”
00:08:34. “Our technology works the same way no matter what. It's model and modal agnostic.”
00:12:13. “Music is usually on the cutting edge, but AI is moving fast.”
00:14:07. “We went from a couple hundred new releases a week to over 150,000 every day.”
00:18:04. “Imagine if everyone who played golf thought they deserved to get paid to play golf.”
00:28:06. “I'm sober now for 160 days... if anybody else is concerned about their own drinking or drug use, there's a place they can go.”

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Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

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Why Tinnitus Keeps Increasing Worldwide | Bobby Owsinski's Inner Circle Ep. 596

Episode 596

mardi 28 octobre 2025 • Duration 39:49

Why is tinnitus still a taboo in the music industry?

In this episode of Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, Bobby dives deep into one of music’s most ignored health crises with Sven Köllmann and Jack Rubinacci of Tinnitus Quest. Tinnitus affects up to 1 billion people worldwide, yet it remains misunderstood and overlooked, even as it wrecks lives and careers. Sven and Jack explain why hearing loss is just the beginning, why research has been misdirected for years, and what it’s really like living with the chronic condition. They also reveal how Tinnitus Quest is fast-tracking research and pushing musicians, celebrities, and everyday sufferers to speak out finally. If you’ve ever heard ringing in your ears, don’t miss this one.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Over 700 million people worldwide suffer from tinnitus
• 120 million live with the severe, chronic form of the condition
• Hearing loss is the #1 cause, but not the only one
• Tinnitus is especially common among orchestral musicians and garage bands
• Stigma keeps many musicians silent about their condition
• Tinnitus Quest aims to bridge the gap between researchers and patients
• Celebrities like William Shatner and Chad Blake are helping break the taboo
• Research has shifted from the ear to the brain in recent years
• There is no objective measurement for tinnitus yet
• Hearing protection remains the best prevention

BEST MOMENTS

00:02:14. “Almost 700 million to 1 billion people worldwide… that is considered a world health problem.”
00:04:13. “Not much is said about this, and not much is done about it.”
00:07:01. “It’s a pandemic within the music industry.”
00:10:12. “The number one protection is hearing protection.”
00:15:00. “Right after that, my ears were ringing.”
00:17:04. “I pulled them out because I thought it was tough. I thought I was rock n roll.”
00:22:18. “The manifestation of chronic tinnitus happens in your brain.”
00:35:00. “By helping others, you're helping yourself.”

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Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

📌 Explore Bobby’s best-selling books

🎙️ Nail that pro vocal sound: clear, upfront, and mix-ready. Learn how in Bobby’s Vocal Mixing Mini-Course

🎧 Discover more mixing and production courses

📲 Follow Bobby for more tips, insights, and updates:

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🎙️ New episodes release every Tuesday at 9AM Pacific on YouTube and your favorite podcast app.

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Episode 587 - AI goes to music school with John von Seggern

mardi 26 août 2025 • Duration 41:21

In this episode of the Inner Circle Podcast, I’m joined by John von Seggern, the visionary behind Futureproof Music School—a next-generation program that blends personalized mentorship with AI-driven music production tools. Unlike traditional schools, Futureproof is designed to meet the needs of today’s independent artists.

John brings over 30 years of experience as a studio musician, producer, and sound designer, including collaborations with electronic music pioneer Jon Hassell, extensive international touring, and contributions to major films such as Pixar’s Oscar-winning WALL·E.

Before launching Futureproof, John led online education programs at Dubspot and Icon Collective, where he saw firsthand how outdated models failed to keep pace with modern music creation.

In this episode, we discuss:

How AI is transforming music education
The balance of online vs in-person learning for musicians
Blockchain technology and the future of student credentials
Lessons from blending traditional and electronic music
John’s journey from performer to educator and entrepreneur

If you’re curious about the future of music education, AI in creative learning, or simply want insights from a veteran producer, this episode is for you.

Recorded from John’s studio in Los Angeles.

Learn more about John at futureproofmusicschool.com

Also, a video version of this podcast is now available on YouTube as well.

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In this podcast, music guru Bobby Owsinski shares his personal insights on the music industry, covering news, reviews, analysis, and tips, as well as offering amazing interviews with prominent industry movers and shakers.

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Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

📌 Explore Bobby’s best-selling books

🎙️ Nail that pro vocal sound: clear, upfront, and mix-ready. Learn how in Bobby’s Vocal Mixing Mini-Course

🎧 Discover more mixing and production courses

📲 Follow Bobby for more tips, insights, and updates:

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🎙️ New episodes release every Tuesday at 9AM Pacific on YouTube and your favorite podcast app.

Music. Business. Creativity. Straight from the Inner Circle.

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Episode 498 – Talkboxer Bosco Kante, Making Millions From Spotify, And New Computers Not As Powerful As You Think

mardi 5 décembre 2023 • Duration 40:37

My guest today is Bosco Kante who’s a Grammy award-winning artist, producer, creator of the world's first Tubeless talk box, and co-founder of ElectroSpit. Bosco has performed on albums by Kanye West and Dua Lipa and wrote the theme to the show "In Living Color."You’ve heard the sound of a talkbox before on hits by Joe Walsh, Peter Frampton, Zapp and Roger Troutman, and many more. The traditional talkbox is a horn driver attached to an amplifier on one end, with a plastic tube that goes into the players mouth on the other. They’re bulky and unsanitary.The idea for the tubeless talkbox came when Bosco was forced lip sync on stage with Kanye West at the American Music Awards because the traditional talkbox was not portable. This disappointment set Bosko on a mission to reinvent the talkbox and a few years later the Electrospit ESX-1 was born.During the interview we spoke about the unusual way he got into the music business, how adding a talkbox to a track makes it more interesting, the long road to the tubeless talkbox, why its phone app is so important, his HiiWave incubator, and much more.I spoke with Bosco from his office in the Bay area.On the intro I’ll take a look at the artists who make millions from Spotify, and Apples latest M3 processor isn’t as powerful as its older M1. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 92363457, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };

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Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

📌 Explore Bobby’s best-selling books

🎙️ Nail that pro vocal sound: clear, upfront, and mix-ready. Learn how in Bobby’s Vocal Mixing Mini-Course

🎧 Discover more mixing and production courses

📲 Follow Bobby for more tips, insights, and updates:

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Bluesky

🎙️ New episodes release every Tuesday at 9AM Pacific on YouTube and your favorite podcast app.

Music. Business. Creativity. Straight from the Inner Circle.

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Best Of Inner Circle Replay Featuring Producer/Mixer Josh Gudwin

mardi 28 novembre 2023 • Duration 38:13

I’ve had so many great guests over the 10 years and nearly 500 episodes of my inner circle podcast. I always enjoy revisiting them, as I hope you do as well. One of the best is from back in 2016 with hit mixer Josh Gudwin. Josh has mixed huge hits for Justin Bieber, Bad Bunny, and Dua Lipa, among many others, and has won 12 Grammy’s for his work. He’s also worked with Acoustica on the Magic Flow vocal plugin.During the interview we talked about starting out as a studio intern, the diplomatic aspects of dealing with superstars, recording on the road with Justin Bieber, his approach to mixing at the time of the interview, and much more. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 92201343, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };

Ad link: Explore The Mixing Engineer’s Handbook (6th Edition), the go-to guide for modern mixing.

Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

📌 Explore Bobby’s best-selling books

🎙️ Nail that pro vocal sound: clear, upfront, and mix-ready. Learn how in Bobby’s Vocal Mixing Mini-Course

🎧 Discover more mixing and production courses

📲 Follow Bobby for more tips, insights, and updates:

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🎙️ New episodes release every Tuesday at 9AM Pacific on YouTube and your favorite podcast app.

Music. Business. Creativity. Straight from the Inner Circle.

Produced by APodcastGeek
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Episode 497 – Sound Designer Scott Gershin, YouTube Copyright Strikes, And Ai Noise-Canceling Headphones

dimanche 19 novembre 2023 • Duration 43:44

My guest today is award-winning sound supervisor, sound designer, and mixer Scott Gershin, who’s audio work has enhanced a variety of different visual mediums in film, broadcast, streaming and games.Some of Scott’s vast credits include major films like Pacific Rim, Hellboy 2, Chronicles of Riddick, Team America: World Police, Shrek, Star Trek, and American Beauty, and best-selling games like the Gears of War series, Epic Mickey, and the Resident Evil and Fable series.Scott has a talent for creating personalities with his voice, which has been tapped for such memorable movie characters such as Flubber, Disney’s Herbie, Reapers in Blade II, The Dragon in Shrek, Kirchek in Tarzan, Leather Back in Pacific Rim, and Dog Fish in Pinocchio, to name just a few.During the interview we spoke about how much time it takes to generate deliverables for a movie, how he records sound effects like rocket launches and helicopters, what qualifies as great post-production, the difference in the mix between movies and television, how much gaming is different from other visual mediums, and much more.I spoke with Scott from studio in Burbank.On the intro I’ll take a look at YouTube copyright strikes, and Ai noise-canceling headphones. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 91447815, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };

Ad link: Explore The Mixing Engineer’s Handbook (6th Edition), the go-to guide for modern mixing.

Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

📌 Explore Bobby’s best-selling books

🎙️ Nail that pro vocal sound: clear, upfront, and mix-ready. Learn how in Bobby’s Vocal Mixing Mini-Course

🎧 Discover more mixing and production courses

📲 Follow Bobby for more tips, insights, and updates:

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Bluesky

🎙️ New episodes release every Tuesday at 9AM Pacific on YouTube and your favorite podcast app.

Music. Business. Creativity. Straight from the Inner Circle.

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Episode 496 – Archivist Bill Smith, Modified Tracks Fool Streamers, And How Old Is Too Old For A Hit

mardi 14 novembre 2023 • Duration 41:20

My guest today is Bill Smith, who spent most of his career as a recording engineer and mixer before transitioning into audio archiving (you can hear him talk about recording and mix in Episode 160). Bill started at United Studios Archiving in 2020 until the company that owned the legendary studio decided to close it earlier this year. Since then Bill has started his own archiving business where he uses an unbelievably wide range of mostly obsolete machines over just about every format you can think of.During the interview we spoke about the preparation normally required before a tape can be transferred, his favorite type of clients, the thing about archiving that most people don’t realize, a surprising format that he gets calls to restore, and much more.I spoke with Bill from studio in Hollywood.On the intro I’ll take a look at modified streaming tracks, and how old is too old to be a hit artist. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 91302197, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };

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Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

📌 Explore Bobby’s best-selling books

🎙️ Nail that pro vocal sound: clear, upfront, and mix-ready. Learn how in Bobby’s Vocal Mixing Mini-Course

🎧 Discover more mixing and production courses

📲 Follow Bobby for more tips, insights, and updates:

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🎙️ New episodes release every Tuesday at 9AM Pacific on YouTube and your favorite podcast app.

Music. Business. Creativity. Straight from the Inner Circle.

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Episode 495 – Manager Nichole Barsalona, Copyright Claims, And Guitar Center Executive Shuffle

mardi 7 novembre 2023 • Duration 39:51

My guest today is Nichole Barsalona, who’s the director of Everyday Rebellion Entertainment artist management and the president of the non-profit Women In Music organization. Nichole grew up around music as her father Frank was a pioneering agent later inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. His clients included The Who, Led Zeppelin, Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band, Tom Petty and U2, among many others. Her mother June was a journalist who traveled from the U.K. at the age of 18 to cover The Beatles’ first U.S. tour and later worked as a music publicist.Nichole started her career at Steven Van Zandt's multi-media company, Renegade Nation, where a week-long temp gig turned into the most formative years of her career. She eventually served as Chief of Staff and Director of Communications at Renegade Nation, and Road Manager to Van Zandt on tours with Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band.During the interview we spoke about how she observed her father’s influence on the music business as she was growing up, how we’re at a turning point for music promotion, the importance of meet and greets, the most sought-after person on a management team today, her role in Women In Music, and much more.I spoke with Nicole from her office in Boston.On the intro I’ll take a look at the status of claims that the Copyright Claims Board reviewed last month, and big changes in the executive suite of Guitar Center. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 90904524, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };

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Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

📌 Explore Bobby’s best-selling books

🎙️ Nail that pro vocal sound: clear, upfront, and mix-ready. Learn how in Bobby’s Vocal Mixing Mini-Course

🎧 Discover more mixing and production courses

📲 Follow Bobby for more tips, insights, and updates:

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Episode 494 – Singer/Songwriter Drew Ryder Smith, Radio Airplay Royalties, And The Las Vegas Sphere Sound System

mardi 31 octobre 2023 • Duration 39:41

My guest today is country music singer and award winning professional songwriter Drew Ryder Smith, who’s also the owner of Gray Sound Recording in Nashville and Charlotte NC, working as a producer and senior mixing engineer. Drew is also the author of The Before You Record Course, which prepares new artists for their first recording session and walks them through what goes into making a record, imparting knowledge gleaned from 15 years in the business.During the interview we spoke about how songwriting has changed in Nashville, doing remote recording in India, prepping artists for going into the studio, the difference between NYC, LA and Nashville session players, opening for Merle Haggard at the Ryman Auditorium, and much more.I spoke with Drew from his hotel room in Charlotte.On the intro I’ll take a look at the competing bills for radio airplay royalties, and the Las Vegas Sphere’s ground-breaking sound system. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 89361801, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };

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Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

📌 Explore Bobby’s best-selling books

🎙️ Nail that pro vocal sound: clear, upfront, and mix-ready. Learn how in Bobby’s Vocal Mixing Mini-Course

🎧 Discover more mixing and production courses

📲 Follow Bobby for more tips, insights, and updates:

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🎙️ New episodes release every Tuesday at 9AM Pacific on YouTube and your favorite podcast app.

Music. Business. Creativity. Straight from the Inner Circle.

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Best Of The Inner Circle Replay Featuring Elliot Scheiner

mardi 24 octobre 2023 • Duration 32:10

Over the nearly 500 episodes of the Inner Circle I’ve had some incredible guests. One is the legendary engineer Elliott Scheiner, and this special replay is from way back on Episode 51 in April of 2015.You certainly have heard Elliot's work as he’s been instrumental in the sound of The Eagles, Steely Dan, Eric Clapton, Jackson Browne, Sting, Foo Fighters and too many others to mention. He’s received 27 Grammy award nominations winning 8, four Emmy nominations and winning two, and a host of other awards for excellence in the field of audio recording.During the interview we spoke about the various stages of his studio life, from his early days at A&R Studios in New York City, going from 4 track to 8 track, his mixing method, the difference between working with Steely Dan and The Eagles, and much more.Remember that this interview was done back in 2015 so some of his comments about digital audio workstations and plugins are no doubt different today. I spoke to Elliott via phone, so the quality is a little shaky, but not the content. var podscribeEmbedVars = { epId: 89276221, backgroundColor: 'white', font: undefined, fontColor: undefined, speakerFontColor: undefined, height: '600px', showEditButton: false, showSpeakers: true, showTimestamps: true };

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Thank you for tuning in to Bobby Owsinski’s Inner Circle, the podcast that takes you deep inside the music industry. Each week, Bobby shares insights, news, analysis, and conversations with the movers and shakers shaping today’s music world.

📌 Explore Bobby’s best-selling books

🎙️ Nail that pro vocal sound: clear, upfront, and mix-ready. Learn how in Bobby’s Vocal Mixing Mini-Course

🎧 Discover more mixing and production courses

📲 Follow Bobby for more tips, insights, and updates:

Facebook
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Bluesky

🎙️ New episodes release every Tuesday at 9AM Pacific on YouTube and your favorite podcast app.

Music. Business. Creativity. Straight from the Inner Circle.

Produced by APodcastGeek
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