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A brand doesn’t become real the day the website goes live—it becomes real the day someone beats it up on a mountain and still reaches for it the next morning. That’s the heart of our conversation with Dust founder Zach Colby, who walked away from politics to build a running brand rooted in the Mountain West: trails, dirt, big days, and gear that doesn’t need babysitting.

We trace the idea back to Boulder, where Zach saw a clear gap. The urban-run-club look had its champions, but the West’s mix of gravel, alpine, and singletrack culture felt underserved. Dust answers with simple, durable pieces that carry a Western soul—led by the mechanic shirt, a breathable button-down designed to race, ride, and recover. Zach breaks down the less glamorous side too: hunting for the right factory, negotiating MOQs, iterating fabric weights across time zones, and learning that a great sample is earned, not ordered.

From there, we get into launch mechanics and marketing without the fluff. Boxes stacked in an apartment, a Shopify backend, word-of-mouth over ads, and photography that actually reflects how people move outside. We talk about the Dust Bus—a retired sheriff’s van now turned rolling pop-up—and why in-person events, beer miles, and race weekends matter more than impressions. Zach also shares what’s next: a women’s line with a dedicated designer, tech-forward shorts and tights, and an interest in a lightweight, no-nonsense running belt that disappears on the run.

If you care about trail running, niche outdoor brands, or the craft behind gear that holds up mile after mile, this one will hit. Tap play, then tell us what piece you wish more brands would build. And if you’re vibing with the show, subscribe, share with a trail friend, and leave a quick review—it helps more runners find us.

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A sharpening workout at 10,000 feet. A sudden stab in the chest. Vision slipping. Hours later, Abby Locke learned her right lung had collapsed—and that was only the beginning. Across one summer she weathered three collapses, seven chest tubes, helicopter flights, and two surgeries, then found her way back to 50-mile weeks with a new definition of strength.

We talk through the full arc with honesty and grit: the ER chaos, hospital routines, and why “take it easy” is dangerous advice for driven athletes. Abby details the shift from vague rest to a precise, metrics-based return—heart rate caps, minutes-based progressions, and a deliberate habit of undershooting. We dig into the identity quake that comes when sport is stripped away, and how watercolor, friendship, and a gentler mindset helped her rebuild. She shares practical wisdom on training by feel, listening for pain signals, and balancing risk without living in fear.

We also explore what’s next: genetic testing, altitude questions, and a smart path toward longer trail races where intensity spikes are fewer. Abby opens up about coaching, sub-ultra roots, and why the northeast’s technical trails deserve more love. The takeaway is bigger than running: gratitude changes performance, diversified meaning sustains motivation, and a broader life makes you braver on race day.

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Golden Trail World Series Final Preview with Robert Prosser 

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Ever wonder how elite runners approach championship races? Tyler McCandless, one of America's leading mountain runners, takes us deep into his preparation for the Sentipee Scramble US Mountain Running Championships in this illuminating conversation.

With Pennsylvania roots that perfectly prepared him for East Coast racing conditions, McCandless explains why many Western mountain runners struggle when heading east—while he thrives. "I love the hot, humid races," Tyler reveals, discussing how his background racing in Pennsylvania summers gives him a mental and physical edge that's proven decisive in previous championships. This unique adaptation to humidity and technical terrain positions him as a serious contender for this year's US Mountain Running team.

The conversation explores Tyler's impressive 20-week training block, consistently hitting 80-95 miles weekly while balancing family life and work responsibilities. What's particularly fascinating is his recent focus on improving downhill running through equipment changes and targeted training. "I found that especially for me, the downhills, I tend to feel more comfortable with a softer, more cushioned shoe that's still light," he shares, explaining how this simple adjustment has dramatically improved his recovery and performance on technical descents.

Perhaps most valuable is Tyler's strategic wisdom for approaching championship races. Rather than getting caught in the excitement of chasing the win, he maintains a laser focus on the ultimate goal: securing a top-four finish to qualify for the World Championships. This measured approach, combined with his exceptional fitness and experience, showcases the mindset that has made him a perennial podium threat.

Curious about how elite athletes prepare for championship events? Listen now to gain insights on everything from shoe selection to sauna recovery techniques that could transform your own approach to important races.

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Taylor Stack is redefining what it means to be a young talent in the ultra-competitive world of trail running. Fresh off signing with Brooks and joining one of the most stacked trail teams in the world, Stack brings us inside his journey from self-coached athlete to sponsored professional with World Championship aspirations.

The conversation dives deep into the evolution of Stack's training approach since partnering with renowned coach David Roche. "Coaching myself, I was doing it on vibes mostly," he admits with refreshing candor. Now, he benefits from the perfect balance of scientific structure and personalized programming that honors what works for his body. This coaching relationship has provided both the accountability for those easy-to-skip strides and the objective perspective that's hard to maintain when emotionally invested in your own performance.

As the Son of Peace Scramble approaches, Stack reveals his meticulous preparation for this World Championship qualifier. His strategy for tackling the unique East Coast terrain – "more grassy, wet and root-laden" than his native Colorado trails – and the challenging two-loop course shows his tactical maturity. Rather than locking into a rigid race plan, he'll trust his instincts developed through purposeful training that balances flat speed work with mountain-specific sessions. And when pushed about what making Team USA would mean? "It's kind of the premier achievement in the sport," he says with unmistakable reverence.

Follow along as Stack outlines his ambitious season ahead, including Golden Trail Series races and his ultimate goal of representing his country on the world stage. Whether you're fascinated by the training philosophies of elite athletes or simply inspired by the passion that drives the next generation of trail running stars, this conversation offers a compelling glimpse into what it takes to chase dreams across mountain trails.

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Ever wonder what it takes to compete at the highest level of mountain running? Andy Wacker, one of America's most accomplished trail runners, pulls back the curtain on his remarkable journey in this candid conversation.

From crushing a string of road races to preparing for the all-important Sunapee Mountain Classic, Andy shares the surprising freedom he's found competing without sponsorship. "Racing for myself takes a lot of pressure off and it's been really fun," he reveals, explaining how this mindset has contributed to some of his best performances ever—including a fourth-place finish at the US Cross Country Championships and a breakthrough 13:51 5K on the track after a decade-long hiatus.

The conversation digs into the fascinating tactical challenges of Sunapee's two-loop format, where competitors must navigate non-technical uphills and tricky descents not once but twice. Andy breaks down his specific preparation, including simulating the punishing sensation of hammering a downhill before immediately climbing again. "You've got to be able to hang with everyone climbing insanely fast. You've got to be able to descend on the most techie thing you've seen and be fine, and then you've got to be ready to do it again better than you did the first time," he explains.

For Andy, this race represents more than just competition—it's a redemption opportunity after missing chances due to injuries and illness in recent years. He shares his burning desire to make Team USA and contribute to what could be a historic squad: "I really want to be on a team that wins a gold medal at Worlds, and this could be that team." With competitors capable of sub-14 minute 5Ks and sub-30 minute 10Ks lining up together, the stage is set for what promises to be an epic battle for those coveted national team spots.

Whether you're a competitive runner or simply appreciate athletic excellence, this episode offers valuable insights into the mindset and preparation of elite mountain runners. Listen now and discover what it takes to perform when everything is on the line.

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Remy Leroux returns to the Steep Stuff Podcast to share insights from his podium finish at the Alta 50K and his strategy for the upcoming Sunapee Scramble mountain running championships. 

Fresh from the Brooks team summit in Seattle, Remy opens up about the exciting experience of joining what he considers "the best sub-ultra trail team on the planet." He describes how Brooks actively incorporates athlete feedback into shoe design, even creating custom footwear for specific races, and the camaraderie of training with teammates who will race together throughout the season.

The conversation shifts to Remy's impressive tactical approach at the Alta 50K, where he maintained disciplined pacing while others pushed too hard on climbs. "I would get dropped on every climb and catch them back on every downhill," Remy explains, demonstrating the race intelligence that earned him a spot on the podium in one of the most competitive early-season fields.

As a Canadian athlete whose World Championship spot is already secured, Remy offers a unique perspective on the upcoming Sunapee Scramble. Unlike American competitors fighting for limited team positions, he can focus purely on racing his best. He breaks down the modified course, which combines elements of last year's classic and vertical races, and analyzes the strengths of competitors like downhill specialist Dan Wallis and emerging threat Mason Coppi.

What stands out most is Remy's thoughtful approach to his racing schedule – maintaining higher training volume through the early races in a five-week competition block to ensure peak performance during his season's final objectives. His insights provide a fascinating glimpse into the strategic mindset of elite mountain runners balancing competition, training, and recovery across a demanding season.

Don't miss this conversation with one of trail running's most consistent performers as he prepares to take on North America's best at the Sunapee Scramble.

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When it comes to training for mountain running, conventional wisdom often points to endless miles on technical trails and massive vert accumulation. Mason Copey is challenging that paradigm—and the results speak for themselves.

Fresh off his victory at the La Sportiva Mount Sanitas Challenge, where he crushed the FKT and defeated elite competitors like Dan Kurtz, Mason joins the Steep Stuff Podcast to reveal the innovative training approach that's positioning him as a top contender for Team USA's mountain running squad. His secret? Less running, more biking, and highly targeted quality sessions.

"Biking is the next frontier," Mason explains, detailing how he achieves the aerobic stimulus of 100-mile running weeks while keeping his body fresh for key workouts. Rather than grinding away on technical trails daily, he concentrates his mountain-specific training into focused sessions, building his foundation through track workouts that maximize running economy and speed. This approach has yielded remarkable results—from a significant marathon PR at CIM to blazing fast mountain performances that demonstrate both climbing power and downhill prowess.

What makes Mason's perspective particularly valuable is his dual role as both elite athlete and coach. He meticulously analyzes training stimulus, distinguishing between metabolic and mechanical adaptations while crafting sessions that deliver maximum benefit with minimal breakdown. His explanation of how neuromuscular skills (like technical trail running) require frequency rather than volume offers a refreshing counterpoint to the "more is better" mentality.

Beyond the physical aspects, Mason offers thoughtful insights on mental preparation, emphasizing self-acceptance and vulnerability as foundations for athletic success. As he prepares for the Sunupi Mountain Classic—a World Championship qualifier with a technical course that will test every aspect of mountain running ability—his confidence is evident but tempered with respect for the competitive field.

Whether you're targeting a mountain race, seeking performance breakthroughs, or simply looking to train more sustainably, Mason's innovative methodology offers valuable lessons for endurance athletes at every level. Tune in for a masterclass in cutting-edge mountain running preparation.

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The mountain running world is buzzing as defending champion Dan Kurtz prepares to face an elite field at the upcoming Sunapee Scramble. Fresh off a dedicated altitude training block in Boulder, Colorado, Dan takes us inside his unorthodox preparation—from living in a van and training on the steepest lines of Green Mountain to battling blizzards and mechanical breakdowns on his way to winning the Canyons 25K.

Dan doesn't shy away from discussing the pressure he feels to defend his title and earn another spot on the World Mountain Running team. His candid reflections on training alongside mountain running stars Kyle Richardson and Johnny Luna Lima reveal the camaraderie and competitive edge that's sharpened his preparation. The conversation takes an intriguing turn when discussing his budding rivalry with Mason Kopi following their head-to-head battle on Boulder's notorious Sanitas Challenge—a contest that clearly still fuels Dan's competitive fire.

With remarkable insight, Dan breaks down his race strategy for Sunapee's demanding two-loop course, analyzing how he'll approach the aggressive early pace from competitors and leverage his technical descending skills. His knowledge of the course—right down to his preference for minimal Asics Asheels on the potentially muddy terrain—showcases the meticulous preparation of an elite athlete who understands exactly what's required to succeed. Whether you're following the elite mountain running scene or simply fascinated by what it takes to compete at the highest level, this raw and revealing pre-race conversation captures both the physical and mental preparation behind championship-level mountain running. Don't miss this glimpse into the mind of one of America's premier mountain runners as he readies himself for one of the season's most anticipated showdowns.

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The mountain running community holds its collective breath as we approach the legendary Soonapie Scramble – the definitive American mountain running championship that will determine who represents our nation on the world stage. This Sunday, June 1st, 2025, Mount Soonapie in New Hampshire becomes the battleground where dreams are made or broken as elite athletes compete for just seven coveted Team USA spots.

What makes this year's competition particularly thrilling is the extraordinary depth of talent. The men's field features mountain running royalty like Dan Kurtz and Mason Copey, alongside the legendary David Norris fresh off his Mount Marathon victory. Meanwhile, the women's competition showcases powerhouses Lauren Gregory and Ana Gibson, who recently stunned with a top-15 finish at Zagama against international competition. These athletes aren't just racing for personal glory – they're fighting for the honor of wearing the Stars and Stripes in the Pyrenees against the world's elite mountain runners.

Throughout this electric week, we're bringing you exclusive, in-depth conversations with every top contender, revealing their preparation strategies, mental approaches, and personal journeys to this pivotal moment. It all culminates Friday with our comprehensive race preview featuring co-host Nick Tusa and the architect of this brutal challenge himself, race director Tom Hooper. Whether you're a dedicated mountain running fan or new to the sport, you won't want to miss this week's coverage of the event that will crown seven Americans as our nation's mountain running ambassadors. Subscribe now and join us for every breathless step of the journey to Soonapie Scramble glory!

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