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Episode 83 – MI with couples

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Tyrel Starks, PhD, onto the podcast to discuss his work on MI with couples.  A South Dakota native, Dr. Starks studied two years at Oberlin Conservatory before returning to the University of South Dakota to complete his undergraduate degree in psychology. He earned his PhD in child-clinical psychology from Southern Illinois University Carbondale in 2009. After a post-doctoral fellowship at Hunter College, he returned to join the faculty of the Psychology Department in 2014 and is now a professor. For more than 15 years, he has studied relationships and health, particularly substance use and HIV-related health in sexual minority men. The development of motivational interviewing with couples has been at the heart of this work. A licensed clinical psychologist and member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, he is active as a trainer and clinical supervisor.

Episode index:

0:00 – Opening and episode preview

04:42 – Tyrel’s journey from music to MI

13:15 – Intersection of HIV and substance use

21:25 – Early days of Tyrel’s work with couples

26:50 – MI with couples 

31:10 – Relationship functioning before talking about change

38:00 – Balancing seeking consensus with evoking change talk

50:30 – Unique shifts for the practitioner: Introspection and use of language

57:20 – How might communication within the couple change?

1:12:20 – Future directions for MI with couples

1:15:45 – Cultivating common ground from political disagreements

1:21:59 – End of episode

Contact info and related links:

Email: tstarks@hunter.cuny.edu 

Learn more about Dr. Starks’ research and team: https://www.hunterrhrt.org/ 

Read Dr. Starks’ blog about LGBTQ+ relationships:https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/queer-relationships-no-straight-lines 

Learn more about MI with couples:https://global.oup.com/academic/product/motivational-interviewing-with-couples-9780197549643?cc=us&lang=en&

MI in Groups: https://www.guilford.com/books/Motivational-Interviewing-in-Groups/Wagner-Ingersoll-Contributors/9781462507924 

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Episode 82 – MI at Home

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Stephen Rollnick, PhD to the podcast to discuss the application of MI to conversations with family members. Steve is a clinical psychologist and Honorary Distinguished Professor in the School of Medicine, Cardiff, UK, and a co-founder of motivational interviewing.

He grew up in Cape Town, South Africa and lives in Cardiff, Wales. He was a practising psychologist in the UK National Health Service for 16 years, and then became a teacher and researcher on the subject of communication and behaviour change.

He has authored and co-authored books on motivational interviewing (Miller & Rollnick, 1991; 2001; 2012), and on applications in health care (Rollnick, Mason & Butler, 1999; Rollnick, Miller & Butler, 2007; 2022), schools (Rollnick, Kaplan & Rutschman, 2016) and sport (Rollnick, Fader, Breckon & Moyers, 2019).

He has published widely in scientific journals and has taught practitioners in many countries and continents. He has retired from his academic career and now focuses on projects in elite sport and healthcare.

Episode Index:

00:00 – Episode preview

07:18 – MI at home – where the idea started

13:08 – Steve’s story about working with mothers with babies infected with AIDS

20:00 – Steve recalls an article about MI at home written by his son Jake as a young man

27:30 – What else is there to change besides behavior?

46:50 – The importance of “restraint” 

59:00 – Conversations with others at home (not just kids)

1:07:50 – Steve’s work with first responders and elite sportsmen

1:11:46 – End of episode

Contact information

Website: www.stephenrollnick.com  

X: @stephenrollnick 

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Glenn and Sebastian discussed MI and Hope in Alaska with Sarah Niecko. Sarah is an Assistant Professor of Behavioral Health Sciences at the University of Alaska Southeast in Juneau, AK, USA. She has a Master of Science in Medicine and a Doctorate of Health Sciences.  She is also a Duke trained Health & Wellness Coach and a recent member of MINT (Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers). She spent 18 years practicing behavioral and lifestyle medicine, including two years in rural Alaska partnering with Yup’ik Eskimos. It was during this time that she began to fully appreciate the transformative potential of motivational interviewing and the healing power of culture, resilience, and hope. 

        0:00 – Opening and episode preview 

        5:00 – Transforming burnout through hope and love

      14:00 – Adapting to a new world through curiosity and compassion 

      22:30 – Embodying the MI spirit

      27:53 – “Hope is the flint of the heart”

      32:03 – MI spirit directed inward before radiating it forward

      36:57 – Language as a way to rediscover identity

      40:00 – Creating a new integrated behavioral health program

      49:52 – End of recording 

Links and contact information:

Email: sniecko@alaska.edu

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Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Victoria Kress and Rachel O’Neill to the podcast to discuss non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI). Victoria E. Kress is a distinguished professor and the director of the clinical mental health and addictions counseling programs at Youngstown State University. She has been the recipient of over 50 awards, most of which for her advocacy, leadership, scholarship, community service, and mentorship initiatives.  She has published over 130 articles and book chapters, and she has co-authored 5 books on clinical mental health counseling with youth and adults. She is a past president of Chi Sigma Iota International, the Association for Humanistic Counseling, the Ohio Counseling Association, and the North Central Association for Counselor Education and Supervision; she is a past ACA Midwest Region Chair; and she is a current member of the American Counseling Association’s governing council.  

Rachel O’Neill, Ph.D, MBA  is a licensed clinical mental health counselor who has over 20 years of experience in the mental health profession. She has over 15 years experience in higher education, serving on the faculty for several graduate-level clinical mental health counseling programs. As a practicing therapist, Dr. O’Neill has worked in a variety of clinical settings, including community-based mental health and addictions treatment, psychiatric hospitals, college counseling settings, and inpatient facilities. She has served in multiple leadership positions, including vice president of clinical services at a global telehealth company, director of a primary medical care and behavioral health organization, and executive director of a state counseling association. Dr. O’Neill’s academic work has been featured in peer-reviewed publications such as The Journal of Mental Health Counseling, The Clinical Supervisor, The Journal of LGBT & Youth, and the Journal of Creativity and Mental Health. She is an expert contributor to national publications and media, including NBC News, HBO, Teen Vogue, Cosmopolitan, Wired, Refinery 29, Cheddar News, Time magazine, and Allure. She currently works as a mental health expert in the technology industry. 

        0:00 – Opening and episode preview 

        5:00 – Victoria’s and Rachel’s early MI stories

      13:45 – Non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI)

      18:45 – Engaging effectively with people who exhibit NSSI

      20:55 – Understanding a person’s NSSI and assessment of suicide risk           

      23:30 – Reframing “attention seeking” as an effort to connect

      27:20 – The clinician’s experience of working with someone who exhibits NSSI      

      31:00 – How MI fits in conversations with people who exhibit NSSI

      37:45 – Harm reduction and safety planning

      44:50 – Blending MI with narrative therapy 

      47:10 – Pre-session intention setting for clinicians

      53:45 – Change talk

      58:30 – Going beyond behavior change

      62:40 – Walking more and “childism”

   1:07:56 – End of recording 

Links and contact information:

• Victoria Kress:
  • Email: victoriaekress@gmail.com 
• Rachel O’Neill:
  • LinkedIn: Rachel O’Neill
  • Threads: Rachel O’Neill
• Reference to article on MI for NSSI:
  • Kress, V.E., & Hoffman, R.M. (2008). Non-suicidal self-injury and motivational interviewing: Enhancing readiness for change. Journal of Mental Health Counseling, 30, 311-329.

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MI and Harm Reduction

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Dr. Kasey Claborn to the podcast to discuss her work on MI and harm reduction. Dr. Claborn is a licensed clinical psychologist and assistant professor of Social Work and Psychiatry at The University of Texas at Austin. She is the Steve Hicks Fellow of Addiction and Recovery Services and Director for the Addictions Research Institute. Dr. Claborn is the Principal Investigator for several projects funded by the National Institutes of Health, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, and the Health Resources and Services Administration. To date, she has received over $14.3 million dollars in external funding for her research. Dr. Claborn’s research focuses on improving the addiction system of care through community based participatory research methods and system science. She has expertise in designing and building digital technologies to improve care coordination and community overdose prevention efforts. In 2021, Dr. Claborn received an international award from Google for her work in building innovative technologies for social impact. Dr. Claborn’s current work seeks to use innovative methods to combine traditional and non-traditional overdose surveillance methods to inform data-driven community response.

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

06:30 – Kasey’s early MI story

09:30 – What is community outreach?

11:10 – Harm reduction: What is it and how has Kasey applied it?

22:30 – HR and abstinence as part of a continuum

31:00 – Training HR workers in MI

35:15 – HR and peer support

37:30 – Barriers to HR and ways to overcome

49:00 – Adaptation of MI for HR

61:00 – Political aspects of HR

70:06 – End of episode

Contact information:

X (Twitter) – kaseyclabornphd 

Email – kasey.claborn@austin.utexas.edu

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MI in the Treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Glenn and Seb welcomed Dr. Jim Carter to the podcast to discuss his work applying MI to the treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Jim enjoys providing clinical services, consultation, and staff training focused on integrating MI and Cognitive Behavioral Therapies.  He has been a licensed clinical psychologist since 1999 and is currently a member of Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, a diplomate for the Academy of Cognitive Behavior Therapy, and a certified behavior therapist by the International OCD Foundation Behavior Therapy Training Institute.  Dr. Carter recently founded a specialized online clinic called OCD123 that is available to persons residing in California seeking integrated evidence-based therapies. 

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

05:15 – Jim’s early MI story

14:45 – What is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)?

26:10 – How to help people with OCD 

32:00 – Using “experiments” 

40:15 – How our minds work and alternatives for when we get stuck

51:00 – Role play – Helping a new father with fears of contamination 

62:30 – Role play debrief

73:30 – Closing comments

77:57 – End of episode

Contact information:

Website and contact: www.ocd123.us

International OCD Foundation: https://iocdf.org/

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Denise Ernst, Ph.D. join Glenn & Sebastian to discuss the importance of coding in MI research and teaching. Denise is a psychologist and MI trainer and consultant. She is part of the research team that developed the Motivational Interviewing Skill Code (MISC) and the Motivational Interviewing Treatment Integrity Coding system. (MITI). She is an adjunct professor at the Portland State School of Social Work. Denise leads an international team of coders that provides MI coding for the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers, research and implementation efforts, and practitioner skill development.

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

04:23 – Denise’s early MI story

08:00 – Nurturing the development of MI 

12:30 – Why is coding important?

19:50 – The MITI: Treatment integrity and learning enrichment 

26:20 – Softening sustain talk

29:10 – What to start paying attention to as a new learner 

34:00 – What have we learned about MI because of the MITI?

39:50 – Coding with audio vs a transcript

43:00 – Voice intonation when using reflections

45:30 – Open vs closed questions and the importance of what a question is asking for 

49:10 – Simple and complex affirmations

58:30 – Denise’s retirement and passing the MITI on  

63:01 – End of episode

Contact information:

Website: www.deniseernst.com

MITI: https://casaa.unm.edu/download/miti4_2.pdf 

Book: https://www.apa.org/pubs/books/deliberate-practice-motivational-interviewing 

Meta-analysis mentioned in episode: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6310665/ 

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In this episode Glenn and Sebastian discuss executive functioning and MI with Tamara Hamilton, LCSW, CMBT. Tamara is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with more than thirty years of experience in behavioral health. For the past ten years, she has been at Cliff Valley School, a pre-K through 8 progressive independent school in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, where she serves on the administration team as school counselor and director of the Cliff Valley Institute. She has focused on issues impacting the well-being of children with a particular emphasis on integrating social/emotional learning into academic curricula. Tamara earned her Master’s Degree from the Indiana University School of Social Work, and she holds a graduate certificate in Mind, Brain, and Teaching from the School of Education at Johns Hopkins University. Tamara is a frequent consultant and invited speaker regarding various topics related to child development. Her presentation style is informative, warm, and  relatable as she combines her training in neuro-learning, clinical professional experience, and personal stories as a mother of three. 

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

04:10 – Tamara’s early MI story

08:25 – What are Executive Functions (EF)?

14:20 – “Learning is changing”

20:40 – Tamara’s journey as a mother of a child with autism

28:00 – “Setting the emotional climate” when working with children and families

30:30 – Applying MI to EF coaching 

41:30 – Parallels when working with parents

46:00 – EF skills in context

50:00 – From labels to “What do you need?”

57:15 – Preparing for this summer’s Cliff Valley Institute 

60:25 – End of episode

Contact information:

Email: thamilton@cliffvalley.org 

Website: https://www.cliffvalleyinstitute.org/ 

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MI within the social context

Glenn and Seb were delighted to have Dr. Paul Earnshaw on the podcast to discuss MI within the social context. Paul is an independent Researcher, Senior Psychological Therapist and Motivational interviewing trainer. He is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT). He has over 18 years of experience in training multi-disciplinary health and social care staff in the UK and internationally in Motivational Interviewing, across a range of mental and physical health services. Paul has extensive clinical and research experience in a range of NHS Mental Health Services. His research Interests and writing include, the integration of MI and CBT (Atkinson and Earnshaw, 2019), MI Theory (Earnshaw, 2021), COVID-19 (in press), MI Implementation in Organisations (Atkinson and Earnshaw, 2022).

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

05:22 – Paul’s early MI story

07:45 – Integration of MI and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT)

22:40 – The therapeutic relationship

29:00 – Widening the lens beyond a “problem behavior”

38:00 – Creating safety through social empathy

52:40 – Influences on Paul’s early thinking

60:00 – Paul’s many interests including MI/CBT integration and contact tracing 

66:38 – End of episode

Contact information:

Email: pgearnshaw@gmail.com 

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Neurodiversity & MI

Glenn and Seb were honoured to have Deb Solomon on the podcast to discuss neurodiversity. Deb is a social worker in Adult Care, and a Practice Development Lead. Following a surprise diagnosis of ADHD in 2020 she went on to set up and chair the first UK group for neurodivergent social workers through the British Association Of Social Workers (BASW) after recognising the lack of knowledge and support in the profession. Deb is also the Vice Chair of BASW Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Advisory Group and has recently set up the Neurodiversity Network for her local authority. Deb presents workshops on neurodiversity, executive functioning and is passionate about ensuring anyone who thinks differently is safe to be their whole selves, celebrating strengths as well as promoting acceptance for all neurotypes.

Episode index:

   00:00 – Opening and episode preview

   07:25 – Deb’s introduction and early story

   10:08 – Gender differences in ADHD

   14:26 – What changed for Deb after receiving the ADHD diagnosis 

   20:30 – What an MI practitioner should know when working with clients who are neurodiverse

   34:10 – Deb’s emotional and cognitive experiences as someone with ADHD

   40:40 – Ambivalence and the executive functions 

   56:25 – “I have to get it (a thought) out”

1:02:16 – What’s helped Deb that might help others

1:06:25 – Media attention towards neurodiversity

1:11:55 – End of episode

Contact information:

Twitter: @ND_SWgroup 

Email: deb.solomon@basw.co.uk

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