Rock N Roll Story Guys – Détails, épisodes et analyse

In this episode, Brian and Murdock dive into a listener's question about music copyright issues in film, revealing the surprising impact licensing decisions can have on artists' careers. Discover how an '80s action star's soundtrack search — and one band’s refusal — opened the door for another group to land a career-changing opportunity. It's a behind-the-scenes look at the intersection of music, movies, and legal rights.

#musiclicensing #filmmusic #copyrightlaw #80smovies #podcast

SHOW NOTES:

https://www.npr.org/2012/01/03/144624329/the-big-bad-swap-the-problem-with-replaced-music

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/17-movies-and-tv-shows-that-were-refused-rights-to-songs/

https://nypost.com/2023/03/04/how-sylvester-stallone-lost-his-rocky-legacy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_III

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonna_Fly_Now

https://societyofrock.com/the-one-eye-opening-fact-that-queen-and-survivor-have-in-common-who-wouldve-thought/

https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/how-survivor-wrote-eye-of-the-tiger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Sullivan

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/survivor-frankie-sullivan-eye-of-the-tiger-rocky-interview-1235088938/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Scotti

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Garrett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotti_Brothers_Records

https://jessecoffey100498.medium.com/scotti-brothers-records-story-and-album-discography-1fff2e668ffc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_Tiger

https://jimpeterik.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/jimpeterik_press_bio.pdf

https://www.hollandsentinel.com/story/entertainment/books/2014/11/05/jim-peterik-shares-his-life/36005860007/

https://www.facebook.com/therosieandbillshowpage/videos/jim-peterik-the-amazing-story-behind-eye-of-the-tiger/812321673662008/

https://elmhurstmagazine.com/jim-peterik/

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Brian and Murdock get a listener letter asking what happened to Mark Knopfler's world-conquering, MTV video pioneering band Dire Straits.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_Straits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Knopfler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_Withers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothers_in_Arms_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Dancer_(Tina_Turner_song)

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Mark-Knopfler-entrust-Private-Dancer-to-Tina-Turner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Dancer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Explosion

https://direstraitsblog.com/blog/history-dire-straits-1977-1979-first-two-albums/

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/mark_knopfler_explains_how_he_unintentionally_became_a_songwriter_opens_up_on_his_relationship_with_electric_guitar.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_over_Gold

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Davies_(talent_manager)

https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/tina-turner-queen-of-rock-roll-190581/

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/blogs/blog-on-the-tracks/3294741/The-worst-guitar-solo-in-the-world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_for_Nothing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Every_Street

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Independent_Recording#AIR_Montserrat_(1979%E2%80%931989)

https://virginradio.co.uk/music/140768/mark-knopfler-potential-dire-straits-reunion

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The guys break down the scuffle between two heavy music legends that happened on the Vegas Strip after the 2007 VMAs.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(band)

https://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2017/04/mastodon-interview

https://metalinjection.net/shocking-revelations/mastodons-brent-hinds-i-fucking-hate-heavy-metal

https://metalinjection.net/gossip/so-mastodons-brent-hinds-got-kicked-out-the-grammys-last-night

https://metalinjection.net/news/mastodons-brent-hinds-got-booted-from-ozzfest-once-for-pooping-everywhere-high-on-shrooms

https://www.theprp.com/2018/09/04/news/mastodons-brent-hinds-vents-on-the-modern-demands-of-being-in-a-band-this-is-definitely-the-most-brutal-job-ive-ever-had/

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/7-things-you-didnt-know-about-system-downs-self-titled-album/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_of_a_Down

https://www.loudersound.com/news/how-a-full-blown-riot-sent-system-of-a-downs-toxicity-into-the-stratosphere

https://www.68to05.com/essays/2001-system-of-a-down-toxicity

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/mastodons-brent-hinds-vmas-head-injury-due-to-fight-with-system-of-a-down-bassist-99653/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/mastodons-brent-hinds-vmas-head-injury-due-to-fight-with-system-of-a-down-bassist-99653/

https://www.mastodonrocks.com/news/mastodon-foo-fighters-vmas-39056

https://blabbermouth.net/news/mastodon-s-brent-hinds-you-made-me-so-mad-i-wanna-punch-you-in-the-face

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Video_Music_Awards

https://exhale.breatheheavy.com/forums/topic/702914-true-story-vma-2007/

https://www.doneanddusted.com/partner/hamish-hamilton

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/24/arts/music/24vma.html

https://americansongwriter.com/behind-the-beef-kid-rock-and-tommy-lees-infamous-fight-at-the-mtv-video-music-awards/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/cellador-guitarist-bill-hudson-i-had-nothing-to-do-with-mastodon-s-hinds-getting-injured

https://www.theprp.com/2019/05/29/news/mastodon-discuss-the-aftermath-of-brent-hinds-2007-coma-in-latest-episode-of-crack-the-skye-documentary/

https://www.metalsucks.net/2019/05/30/mastodon-discuss-brent-hinds-fight-with-shavo-odadjian-in-latest-crack-the-skye-documentary-episode/

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Brian and Murdock talk about Canadian journalist/guerrilla interviewer Nardwuar and that time that a certain member of a Brit pop band just wasn't feeling his interview style...

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SHOW NOTES:

The Nardwuar Blur interview (2003): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkNvk2MgiCc

https://theoutline.com/post/2305/nardwuar-the-most-mysterious-man-in-music-journalism

Dave’s 2011 apology: https://exclaim.ca/music/article/blurs_dave_rowntree_apologizes_for_2003_attack_against_nardwuar

https://www.canadaland.com/oral-history-of-nardwuar-the-human-serviette/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-uncomfortable-nardwaur-interview-with-blur/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rowntree

https://x.com/blurofficial/status/439426376907882496?mx=2

https://www.loudersound.com/news/blur-italian-tv-cardboard-graham-coxon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Tank_(Blur_album)

https://www.clashmusic.com/features/it-really-could-happen-blurs-dave-rowntree-gazes-into-space/

https://www.the-independent.com/voices/commentators/dave-rowntree-i-was-an-angsty-young-man-i-was-english-i-drank-68410.html

https://www.nme.com/news/music/blur-333-1336845

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Labour-Party-political-party

https://pitchfork.com/news/blurs-dave-rowntree-loses-bid-to-become-uk-member-of-parliament/

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Brian and Murdock deep dive on the British bad boy who got famous for party anthems and his out of control life style. Did he hire an impersonator to get out of performing? Or for something totally different?!

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Morrison

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_the_Mack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_jack_swing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_the_Mack_(album)

https://postmalone.fandom.com/wiki/Mark_Morrison

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/return-of-the-mack-seeker-music-strikes-multi-million-dollar-catalog-deal-with-mark-morrison234/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2006/mar/08/popandrock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tom_Club

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/mark-morrison-released-after-serving-time-1258274.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/in-the-news-mark-morrison-pop-star-takes-the-ultimate-rap-for-a-life-of-living-dangerously-1152244.html

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/from-council-house-penthouse-mark-4401119

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/mark-morrison-return-of-the-mack

https://www.newsbreak.com/american-songwriter-1587609/3319103245512-the-meaning-behind-return-of-the-mack-by-mark-morrison

Mark Morrison - Where is Our Love (1993): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3chssNUoeQ 

https://www.nme.com/news/music/mark-morrison-10-1392631

https://www.discogs.com/master/77868-Mark-Morrison-Crazy?srsltid=AfmBOoqdFsCIJESCj_Fph8nA6xc7oSrQdvrcywTaRNlVDQGB71466NDl

https://www.theguardian.com/friday_review/story/0,3605,281733,00.html

https://www.gq.com/story/the-90s-were-a-golden-age-of-novelty-pop-hits

I Love 1996: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6avjA43ZFg

https://www.discogs.com/artist/11010-Cutfather-Joe?srsltid=AfmBOorySYQZLVGLn8-uYumnvbCpPv3VtremoBTjn7MtIHOczKKpMtLl

https://neonmusic.co.uk/unravelling-the-genius-of-mark-morrison-a-deep-dive-into-return-of-the-mack

TFI Friday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5iwUdGYCa8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuckii_Booker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_of_Love

https://www.whosampled.com/Tom-Tom-Club/Genius-of-Love/sampled/?cp=2

https://www.nme.com/news/music/mark-morrison-9-1392494

https://www.the-independent.com/news/soul-star-mark-morrison-must-go-to-jail-1267559.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFI_Friday

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2002/jul/27/artsfeatures.features

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-62796511

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Brian and Murdock make a case for Terri Nunn - lead singer of Berlin - as forgotten feminist icon while examining the story behind the movie soundtrack single that made the band huge - and broke the band up.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://vinyldistractions.com/berlin-pleasure-victim/

https://www.thatericalper.com/2019/01/05/terri-nunn-who-would-later-become-lead-singer-of-new-wave-group-berlin-auditioning-for-princess-leia-in-star-wars-with-harrison-ford-in-1976/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KROQ_Weenie_Roast

https://www.tampabay.com/terri-nunns-journey-to-berlin-almost-got-sidetracked-in-dallas/2322182/

Child actor system dissertation: https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2453&context=utk_chanhonoproj

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Heartbeat

Hollywood Heartbeat 1979 performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APPhaCUZj-0

https://www.lostturntable.com/2016/03/21/10-years-of-being-lost-berlins-information/

Virginia and the Slims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDBaUgA0NzA

Beast of Beast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC4M5e6xAzs

https://themusepatrol.com/2014/02/09/80s-bands-time-forgot-spotlight-beast-of-beast/

Berlin at US Festival 1983: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAo-q-4kW7E

Motels demo of Take My Breath Away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8qRTSkbgg

https://www.yahoo.com/now/berlins-terri-nunn-on-how-she-got-her-ex-to-play-an-ahole-on-new-song-202751710.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Words

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Moroder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Whitlock

Berlin’s cover of Marilyn Manson’s Dope Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mesTjE4fKA

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The guys get into two separate stories from the 70's chronicling rock n roll showmanship colliding with wild year-end countdowns.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://www.mic.com/articles/163481/how-did-new-year-s-eve-start-the-history-and-

tradition-explained

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bruce-springsteen-firecracker-show/

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2021/07/new-book-chronicles-bruce-

springsteens-relationship-with-ohio-through-40-years-of-iconic-photos.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agora,_Cleveland_1978

https://case.edu/ech/articles/a/agoraagora-ballroom

https://www.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/erry-2018/08/66bf705e4b2862/40-facts-

about-bruce-springste.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Appel

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bruce-springsteen-mike-appel-settle-lawsuit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richfield_Coliseum

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2021/02/how-bruce-springsteen-made-

northeast-ohio-his-second-home-on-the-1978-darkness-tour.html

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_crazy_night_iggy_pop_blue_oeyster_cult_ki

ss_shared_the_same_stage_on_ne

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/gene-simmons-hair-on-fire/

Video of Gene’s hair catching fire: https://youtu.be/8fYRizoWhUg

https://fullinbloom.com/kisss-gene-simmons-on-the-time-he-melted-a-fans-face-on-new-

years-eve-in-1973-the-thing-exploded-in-front-of-the-guy-2022-interview/

Rocky IV and Tyson Punch out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sknAucYijn8

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Brian and Murdock relive the horrors of Christmas seasons past - particularly the ones where they had to play Christmas songs on the radio - and get at why one particular tune always got under the skin. 

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SHOW NOTES:

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/610472/do-they-know-its-christmas-band-aid-song-

history

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1220362/george-michael-news-band-

aid-paul-weller-savage-bust-up-do-they-know-its-christmas-spt

https://www.whychristmas.com/cultures/ethiopia.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midge_Ure

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-story-of-hear-n-aid-the-heavy-metal-band-aid

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4012573.stm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_They_Know_It%27s_Christmas%3F

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The guys get a stack of letters, each asking for clarification on a similar point - are these classic tunes REALLY "Christmas songs"?

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same_Old_Lang_Syne

https://www.pjstar.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/12/14/dan-fogelberg-same-old-lang-syne/6494479002/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REO_Speedwagon

https://fle-pics.blogspot.com/2013/01/dan-fogelberg-in-jackson-ms-1974.html

Fogelberg in Jackson, Mississippi recording - https://youtu.be/JTAEvRx-omk?si=g2DHG2LPViJHIygZ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Honeyman-Scott

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pretenders-2000-miles/

https://www.jonkutner.com/2000-miles-pretenders/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_to_Crawl

https://www.thisisdig.com/feature/2000-miles-pretenders-song-story/

JM talks about adoption

Will Blythe on Joni & James Christmas in NC

Washington Post How River Became a Christmas Classic

Excellent Resource on Blue from NYT

JM on NPR about Bah Humbug

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Brian breaks down a couple of seemingly tall tales about the poet-turned-troubadour and uncovers another bad business manager cautionary ode.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_of_Leonard_Cohen

Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr Leonard Cohen documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GvTeMdmdCI

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/highlights/1218412-judy-collins-ray-darcy

https://savingcountrymusic.com/leonard-cohen-could-have-been-a-country-star-rip/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Collins

https://www.bigissue.com/culture/music/judy-collins-i-didnt-write-songs-until-after-i-met-leonard-cohen/

https://scalar.usc.edu/works/musictoronto/earliest-recording-of-leonard-cohens-suzanne---the-stormy-clovers-1966

https://ex-press.ca/2016/11/15/leonard-cohen-reminiscence/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Johnston

https://cavehollywood.com/leonard-cohen-songs-from-a-room/

https://www.billboard.com/music/features/leonard-cohen-embezzlement-career-comeback-7580545/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/apr/19/leonard-cohen-former-manager-jailed

https://sharpmagazine.com/2018/11/06/how-do-we-come-to-terms-with-leonard-cohens-legacy-in-the-metoo-era/

https://thedissolve.com/features/movie-of-the-week/772-mccabe-mrs-miller-profound-pessimism-and-leonard-c/

https://www.kelleylynchfactcheck.com/

https://www.kelleylynchfactcheck.com/pleadings/Compl%20agst%20Lynch%20Westin.pdf

2006 Fresh Air interview:

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/21/498810429/leonard-cohen-on-poetry-music-and-why-he-left-the-zen-monastery

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/radionational/archived/rhythmdivine/5076662

https://www.dailybulletin.com/2016/11/26/leonard-cohen-mt-baldy-monk-claremont-consumer/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyozan_Joshu_Sasaki

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/robbery-leonard-cohen-music/

https://variety.com/2022/music/news/leonard-cohen-hipgnosis-1235196842/

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