In this episode, Brian and Murdock dive into a listener's question about music copyright issues in film, revealing the surprising impact licensing decisions can have on artists' careers. Discover how an '80s action star's soundtrack search — and one band’s refusal — opened the door for another group to land a career-changing opportunity. It's a behind-the-scenes look at the intersection of music, movies, and legal rights.

#musiclicensing #filmmusic #copyrightlaw #80smovies #podcast

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https://www.npr.org/2012/01/03/144624329/the-big-bad-swap-the-problem-with-replaced-music

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/17-movies-and-tv-shows-that-were-refused-rights-to-songs/

https://nypost.com/2023/03/04/how-sylvester-stallone-lost-his-rocky-legacy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_III

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonna_Fly_Now

https://societyofrock.com/the-one-eye-opening-fact-that-queen-and-survivor-have-in-common-who-wouldve-thought/

https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/how-survivor-wrote-eye-of-the-tiger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankie_Sullivan

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/survivor-frankie-sullivan-eye-of-the-tiger-rocky-interview-1235088938/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Scotti

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Garrett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotti_Brothers_Records

https://jessecoffey100498.medium.com/scotti-brothers-records-story-and-album-discography-1fff2e668ffc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_Tiger

https://jimpeterik.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/jimpeterik_press_bio.pdf

https://www.hollandsentinel.com/story/entertainment/books/2014/11/05/jim-peterik-shares-his-life/36005860007/

https://www.facebook.com/therosieandbillshowpage/videos/jim-peterik-the-amazing-story-behind-eye-of-the-tiger/812321673662008/

https://elmhurstmagazine.com/jim-peterik/

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Brian and Murdock get a listener letter asking what happened to Mark Knopfler's world-conquering, MTV video pioneering band Dire Straits.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_Straits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Knopfler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick_Withers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothers_in_Arms_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Dancer_(Tina_Turner_song)

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Mark-Knopfler-entrust-Private-Dancer-to-Tina-Turner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Dancer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Explosion

https://direstraitsblog.com/blog/history-dire-straits-1977-1979-first-two-albums/

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/mark_knopfler_explains_how_he_unintentionally_became_a_songwriter_opens_up_on_his_relationship_with_electric_guitar.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_over_Gold

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Davies_(talent_manager)

https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/tina-turner-queen-of-rock-roll-190581/

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/blogs/blog-on-the-tracks/3294741/The-worst-guitar-solo-in-the-world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_for_Nothing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Every_Street

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Independent_Recording#AIR_Montserrat_(1979%E2%80%931989)

https://virginradio.co.uk/music/140768/mark-knopfler-potential-dire-straits-reunion

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The guys break down the scuffle between two heavy music legends that happened on the Vegas Strip after the 2007 VMAs.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(band)

https://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2017/04/mastodon-interview

https://metalinjection.net/shocking-revelations/mastodons-brent-hinds-i-fucking-hate-heavy-metal

https://metalinjection.net/gossip/so-mastodons-brent-hinds-got-kicked-out-the-grammys-last-night

https://metalinjection.net/news/mastodons-brent-hinds-got-booted-from-ozzfest-once-for-pooping-everywhere-high-on-shrooms

https://www.theprp.com/2018/09/04/news/mastodons-brent-hinds-vents-on-the-modern-demands-of-being-in-a-band-this-is-definitely-the-most-brutal-job-ive-ever-had/

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/7-things-you-didnt-know-about-system-downs-self-titled-album/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_of_a_Down

https://www.loudersound.com/news/how-a-full-blown-riot-sent-system-of-a-downs-toxicity-into-the-stratosphere

https://www.68to05.com/essays/2001-system-of-a-down-toxicity

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/mastodons-brent-hinds-vmas-head-injury-due-to-fight-with-system-of-a-down-bassist-99653/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/mastodons-brent-hinds-vmas-head-injury-due-to-fight-with-system-of-a-down-bassist-99653/

https://www.mastodonrocks.com/news/mastodon-foo-fighters-vmas-39056

https://blabbermouth.net/news/mastodon-s-brent-hinds-you-made-me-so-mad-i-wanna-punch-you-in-the-face

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Video_Music_Awards

https://exhale.breatheheavy.com/forums/topic/702914-true-story-vma-2007/

https://www.doneanddusted.com/partner/hamish-hamilton

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/24/arts/music/24vma.html

https://americansongwriter.com/behind-the-beef-kid-rock-and-tommy-lees-infamous-fight-at-the-mtv-video-music-awards/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/cellador-guitarist-bill-hudson-i-had-nothing-to-do-with-mastodon-s-hinds-getting-injured

https://www.theprp.com/2019/05/29/news/mastodon-discuss-the-aftermath-of-brent-hinds-2007-coma-in-latest-episode-of-crack-the-skye-documentary/

https://www.metalsucks.net/2019/05/30/mastodon-discuss-brent-hinds-fight-with-shavo-odadjian-in-latest-crack-the-skye-documentary-episode/

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Brian and Murdock talk about Canadian journalist/guerrilla interviewer Nardwuar and that time that a certain member of a Brit pop band just wasn't feeling his interview style...

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SHOW NOTES:

The Nardwuar Blur interview (2003): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkNvk2MgiCc

https://theoutline.com/post/2305/nardwuar-the-most-mysterious-man-in-music-journalism

Dave’s 2011 apology: https://exclaim.ca/music/article/blurs_dave_rowntree_apologizes_for_2003_attack_against_nardwuar

https://www.canadaland.com/oral-history-of-nardwuar-the-human-serviette/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-uncomfortable-nardwaur-interview-with-blur/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rowntree

https://x.com/blurofficial/status/439426376907882496?mx=2

https://www.loudersound.com/news/blur-italian-tv-cardboard-graham-coxon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Tank_(Blur_album)

https://www.clashmusic.com/features/it-really-could-happen-blurs-dave-rowntree-gazes-into-space/

https://www.the-independent.com/voices/commentators/dave-rowntree-i-was-an-angsty-young-man-i-was-english-i-drank-68410.html

https://www.nme.com/news/music/blur-333-1336845

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Labour-Party-political-party

https://pitchfork.com/news/blurs-dave-rowntree-loses-bid-to-become-uk-member-of-parliament/

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Brian and Murdock deep dive on the British bad boy who got famous for party anthems and his out of control life style. Did he hire an impersonator to get out of performing? Or for something totally different?!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Morrison

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_the_Mack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_jack_swing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_the_Mack_(album)

https://postmalone.fandom.com/wiki/Mark_Morrison

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/return-of-the-mack-seeker-music-strikes-multi-million-dollar-catalog-deal-with-mark-morrison234/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2006/mar/08/popandrock

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Tom_Club

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/mark-morrison-released-after-serving-time-1258274.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/in-the-news-mark-morrison-pop-star-takes-the-ultimate-rap-for-a-life-of-living-dangerously-1152244.html

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/from-council-house-penthouse-mark-4401119

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/mark-morrison-return-of-the-mack

https://www.newsbreak.com/american-songwriter-1587609/3319103245512-the-meaning-behind-return-of-the-mack-by-mark-morrison

Mark Morrison - Where is Our Love (1993): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3chssNUoeQ 

https://www.nme.com/news/music/mark-morrison-10-1392631

https://www.discogs.com/master/77868-Mark-Morrison-Crazy?srsltid=AfmBOoqdFsCIJESCj_Fph8nA6xc7oSrQdvrcywTaRNlVDQGB71466NDl

https://www.theguardian.com/friday_review/story/0,3605,281733,00.html

https://www.gq.com/story/the-90s-were-a-golden-age-of-novelty-pop-hits

I Love 1996: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6avjA43ZFg

https://www.discogs.com/artist/11010-Cutfather-Joe?srsltid=AfmBOorySYQZLVGLn8-uYumnvbCpPv3VtremoBTjn7MtIHOczKKpMtLl

https://neonmusic.co.uk/unravelling-the-genius-of-mark-morrison-a-deep-dive-into-return-of-the-mack

TFI Friday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5iwUdGYCa8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuckii_Booker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_of_Love

https://www.whosampled.com/Tom-Tom-Club/Genius-of-Love/sampled/?cp=2

https://www.nme.com/news/music/mark-morrison-9-1392494

https://www.the-independent.com/news/soul-star-mark-morrison-must-go-to-jail-1267559.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFI_Friday

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2002/jul/27/artsfeatures.features

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-62796511

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Brian and Murdock make a case for Terri Nunn - lead singer of Berlin - as forgotten feminist icon while examining the story behind the movie soundtrack single that made the band huge - and broke the band up.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://vinyldistractions.com/berlin-pleasure-victim/

https://www.thatericalper.com/2019/01/05/terri-nunn-who-would-later-become-lead-singer-of-new-wave-group-berlin-auditioning-for-princess-leia-in-star-wars-with-harrison-ford-in-1976/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KROQ_Weenie_Roast

https://www.tampabay.com/terri-nunns-journey-to-berlin-almost-got-sidetracked-in-dallas/2322182/

Child actor system dissertation: https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2453&context=utk_chanhonoproj

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Heartbeat

Hollywood Heartbeat 1979 performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APPhaCUZj-0

https://www.lostturntable.com/2016/03/21/10-years-of-being-lost-berlins-information/

Virginia and the Slims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDBaUgA0NzA

Beast of Beast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC4M5e6xAzs

https://themusepatrol.com/2014/02/09/80s-bands-time-forgot-spotlight-beast-of-beast/

Berlin at US Festival 1983: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAo-q-4kW7E

Motels demo of Take My Breath Away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8qRTSkbgg

https://www.yahoo.com/now/berlins-terri-nunn-on-how-she-got-her-ex-to-play-an-ahole-on-new-song-202751710.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Words

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Moroder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Whitlock

Berlin’s cover of Marilyn Manson’s Dope Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mesTjE4fKA

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The guys get into two separate stories from the 70's chronicling rock n roll showmanship colliding with wild year-end countdowns.

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https://www.mic.com/articles/163481/how-did-new-year-s-eve-start-the-history-and-

tradition-explained

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bruce-springsteen-firecracker-show/

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2021/07/new-book-chronicles-bruce-

springsteens-relationship-with-ohio-through-40-years-of-iconic-photos.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Eve

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Agora,_Cleveland_1978

https://case.edu/ech/articles/a/agoraagora-ballroom

https://www.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/erry-2018/08/66bf705e4b2862/40-facts-

about-bruce-springste.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Appel

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bruce-springsteen-mike-appel-settle-lawsuit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richfield_Coliseum

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2021/02/how-bruce-springsteen-made-

northeast-ohio-his-second-home-on-the-1978-darkness-tour.html

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/the_crazy_night_iggy_pop_blue_oeyster_cult_ki

ss_shared_the_same_stage_on_ne

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/gene-simmons-hair-on-fire/

Video of Gene’s hair catching fire: https://youtu.be/8fYRizoWhUg

https://fullinbloom.com/kisss-gene-simmons-on-the-time-he-melted-a-fans-face-on-new-

years-eve-in-1973-the-thing-exploded-in-front-of-the-guy-2022-interview/

Rocky IV and Tyson Punch out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sknAucYijn8

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Brian and Murdock relive the horrors of Christmas seasons past - particularly the ones where they had to play Christmas songs on the radio - and get at why one particular tune always got under the skin. 

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SHOW NOTES:

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/610472/do-they-know-its-christmas-band-aid-song-

history

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1220362/george-michael-news-band-

aid-paul-weller-savage-bust-up-do-they-know-its-christmas-spt

https://www.whychristmas.com/cultures/ethiopia.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midge_Ure

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-story-of-hear-n-aid-the-heavy-metal-band-aid

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4012573.stm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_They_Know_It%27s_Christmas%3F

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The guys get a stack of letters, each asking for clarification on a similar point - are these classic tunes REALLY "Christmas songs"?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same_Old_Lang_Syne

https://www.pjstar.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/12/14/dan-fogelberg-same-old-lang-syne/6494479002/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REO_Speedwagon

https://fle-pics.blogspot.com/2013/01/dan-fogelberg-in-jackson-ms-1974.html

Fogelberg in Jackson, Mississippi recording - https://youtu.be/JTAEvRx-omk?si=g2DHG2LPViJHIygZ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Honeyman-Scott

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/pretenders-2000-miles/

https://www.jonkutner.com/2000-miles-pretenders/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_to_Crawl

https://www.thisisdig.com/feature/2000-miles-pretenders-song-story/

JM talks about adoption

Will Blythe on Joni & James Christmas in NC

Washington Post How River Became a Christmas Classic

Excellent Resource on Blue from NYT

JM on NPR about Bah Humbug

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Brian breaks down a couple of seemingly tall tales about the poet-turned-troubadour and uncovers another bad business manager cautionary ode.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_of_Leonard_Cohen

Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr Leonard Cohen documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GvTeMdmdCI

https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/highlights/1218412-judy-collins-ray-darcy

https://savingcountrymusic.com/leonard-cohen-could-have-been-a-country-star-rip/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Collins

https://www.bigissue.com/culture/music/judy-collins-i-didnt-write-songs-until-after-i-met-leonard-cohen/

https://scalar.usc.edu/works/musictoronto/earliest-recording-of-leonard-cohens-suzanne---the-stormy-clovers-1966

https://ex-press.ca/2016/11/15/leonard-cohen-reminiscence/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Johnston

https://cavehollywood.com/leonard-cohen-songs-from-a-room/

https://www.billboard.com/music/features/leonard-cohen-embezzlement-career-comeback-7580545/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/apr/19/leonard-cohen-former-manager-jailed

https://sharpmagazine.com/2018/11/06/how-do-we-come-to-terms-with-leonard-cohens-legacy-in-the-metoo-era/

https://thedissolve.com/features/movie-of-the-week/772-mccabe-mrs-miller-profound-pessimism-and-leonard-c/

https://www.kelleylynchfactcheck.com/

https://www.kelleylynchfactcheck.com/pleadings/Compl%20agst%20Lynch%20Westin.pdf

2006 Fresh Air interview:

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/21/498810429/leonard-cohen-on-poetry-music-and-why-he-left-the-zen-monastery

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/radionational/archived/rhythmdivine/5076662

https://www.dailybulletin.com/2016/11/26/leonard-cohen-mt-baldy-monk-claremont-consumer/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyozan_Joshu_Sasaki

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/robbery-leonard-cohen-music/

https://variety.com/2022/music/news/leonard-cohen-hipgnosis-1235196842/

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The guys get an earful and an education on the Tulsa Sound and sketch comedy when a listener asks about Leon Russell's drummer.

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https://kendrasteinereditions.wordpress.com/2021/02/08/gary-busey-discusses-leon-russell/

https://www.ranker.com/list/the-13-craziest-things-gary-busey-has-ever-done/carly-kiel

https://www.nytimes.com/1978/07/23/archives/folksiness-is-gary-buseys-film-career-the-one-who-taught-me-poetic.html

https://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/broadcasts/113660

https://www.remindmagazine.com/article/21166/gary-busey-life-after-death-1988-accident-howie-mandel-podcast

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-12-05-me-711-story.html

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/01/Buseys-anti-helmet-stance-unchanged-despite-crash/5243604731600/

https://www.tumblr.com/uncle-gary-busey/190159738563/gary-busey-and-teddy-jack-eddy

https://okma.fandom.com/wiki/Carp

https://www.mazeppa.com/

https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=BU022

https://tulsatvmemories.com/mazeppa.html

https://tulsatvmemories.com/chew.html

https://tulsatvmemories.com/mazmurg.html

Tulsa World article (1992): https://www.mazeppa.com/about-mazeppa

https://thislandpress.com/2011/01/23/mazeppa-the-uncanny-film-festival-and-camp-meeting/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Halsey

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/entertainment/columns/brandy-mcdonnell/2016/11/13/master-of-space-and-time-leon-russell-dies/60638176007/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_sound

https://thechurchstudio.com/leon-russell-going-back-to-tulsa-one-more-time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_O%27_the_Wisp_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Buddy_Holly_Story

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/petty-warren-zanes/1122597923

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A listener letter leads Brian and Murdock to another sliding doors speculation – if a certain tragedy hadn’t happened to Bjork in 1996, would the world of music sound very different today?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_L%C3%B3pez_(stalker)

https://emadion.it/en/suicides/ricardo-lopez-storia-uno-stalker/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3du0GpXE5WY

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=444358093173398

https://thomasr.nvg.org/bjork/mainpage/rc.html

https://www.icelandtours.is/blog/bjork-iceland/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sugarcubes

https://www.npr.org/2010/08/06/129029063/bjork-a-celestial-voice

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/bjork-stalker-acid-letterbomb-ricardo-lopez/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jan/08/northern-souls-the-anarcho-punks-who-made-iceland-a-pop-powerhouse

https://thevogue.com/artists/bjork/#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm_(record_label)

https://smekkleysa.net/about/history/

https://www.reddit.com/r/bjork/comments/udmxc6/opinion_the_sugarcubes_are_a_bunch_of_pretty_good/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life%27s_Too_Good#:~:text=Despite%20never%20having%20intended%20to,release%20two%20further%20studio%20albums.

Betsey Johnson fashion show footage: https://www.reddit.com/r/bjork/comments/1c2ip81/you_wont_see_anything_more_iconic_today/

https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=132422&page=1

https://thecrimemag.com/ricardo-lopez-tapes/

https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1996/09/19/a-race-against-insanity/

https://themoderngirls.co/2017/06/21/frontwoman-spotlight-bjork-and-the-sugarcubes/

Unpredictable podcast episode: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/unpred-ictable/episodes/The-Bjrk-Stalker-Tapes–explained-e270o2b

Spread the Dread podcast episode: https://music.amazon.com/es-us/podcasts/aa625bb4-74b6-4015-8649-97b88eb8a4d9/episodes/e12c5a9e-4910-48eb-bbc5-83a48bac6ea3/spread-the-dread-podcast-episode-10—ricardo-lopez—the-bjork-stalker 

I Could Murder A Podcast episode 

https://shows.acast.com/icmap/episodes/the-bjork-stalker-the-ricardo-lopez-video-diaries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldie

https://forums.lostmediawiki.com/thread/5618/ricardo-lopezs-803-page-diary

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/interviews/wanted-bad-wasnt-cut-goldie-crime-class-return-music/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Loves_Sunshine

https://www.thefader.com/2017/11/08/goldie-david-bowie-truth-all-things-remembered-extract

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homogenic

Spin cover story 1997: https://www.spin.com/2017/09/bjork-homogenic-cover-story/

https://www.loudandquiet.com/short/bjork-homogenic-at-20-template-for-artistic-reinvention/

https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/music/2022/09/homogenic-brought-bjork-into-focus

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Brian and Murdock have fun revisiting the early-90's and the idea of the "multi-tiered celebrity" through the person of Shaquille O'Neal. Did an emerging alt-rock god really almost collab with the 7-foot superstar on wax?

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https://smashing-pumpkins-recording-sessions.fandom.com/wiki/Summer_1996_%E2%80%93_Soundworks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_(song)

https://brobible.com/sports/article/shaq-rap-career/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq_Diesel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq_Fu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu-Schnickens

https://www.rapreviews.com/2009/09/chip-fu-interview/

https://www.dubcnn.com/2013/02/23/chip-fu-interview-february-2013/

https://golianopoulos.com/new-blog/2014/1/31/shaquille-oneals-rap-career

https://www.forbes.com/sites/imeekpo/2024/05/28/shaq-diesel-the-nba-stars-iconic-rap-collaborations-with-michael-jackson-jay-z-biggie-smalls-and-more/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Up_Doc%3F_(Can_We_Rock)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaq_Fu:_Da_Return

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_at_the_Beach_(1994)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellon_Collie_and_the_Infinite_Sadness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_with_Butterfly_Wings

Corgan talking about Lynch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXdqqakB6Cg

Shaq talking about Biggie: https://www.reddit.com/r/NotoriousBIG/comments/1gre8u5/shaquille_oneal_talks_about_biggie/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Notorious_B.I.G.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ready_to_Die

https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/pop-culture/2024/06/26/shaq-third-rap-album-released-streaming-jay-z-nas-collaboration/79757669007/

https://americansongwriter.com/behind-the-jay-z-and-nas-feud/

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A question from a listener unlocks the “sliding doors” history that exists between members of Van Halen and the accomplished musicians who would join forces to form Mr. Big.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Be_with_You

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/its_like_getting_a_phd_in_showbiz_101_billy_sheehan_recalls_what_david_lee_roth_was_like_to_work_with.html

https://defendersofthefaithmetal.com/billy-sheehan-talas-david-lee-roth-mr-big-the-winery-dogs-interview/

https://www.vhnd.com/2024/03/24/billy-sheehan-on-roths-initial-guitarist-choice-before-vai/

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/billy_sheehan_speaks_on_why_he_left_david_lee_roth_talks_how_steve_vai_behaved_when_he_joined_the_band.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyscraper_(album)

https://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/66629-Billy-Sheehan-on-How-David-Lee-Roth-Treated-Musicians-He-Hired/page2

https://www.vhnd.com/2009/06/30/billy-sheehan-talk-david-lee-roth-and-van-halen/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Big_(American_band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Martin_(musician)

https://www.al.com/life/2021/12/how-having-a-number-one-hit-changed-this-rock-singers-life-forever.html

https://www.vhnd.com/2021/09/16/mr-big-singer-eric-martin-on-the-85-van-halen-audition-that-never-happened/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gilbert

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/paul_gilbert_recalls_ozzy_audition_rejection_when_he_was_15_years_old__how_it_affected_him.html

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/paul_gilbert_explains_what_made_him_play_guitar_with_electric_drill_talks_what_he_rarely_does_on_instrument_anymore.html

https://www.quora.com/Who-was-the-first-guitarist-to-play-with-a-drill-was-it-Eddie-Van-Halen-or-Paul-Gilbert

Lips from Anvil (2015): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-WSiIY2zM

https://blog.evhgear.com/2015/08/ask-eddie-using-a-drill-on-poundcake/

Mr Big live performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46BCpSJKIjw

Up close drill footage from Poundcake performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kImCAqulEKA

https://www.eonmusic.co.uk/anvil-steve-lips-kudlow-eonmusic-interview-october-2016.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBow

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Recent chatter on the show about lead singer egos spurs a listener letter encouraging the guys to get lost in the complicated and complex story of the band LIVE – four childhood best friends who let fame, fortune, and a business man with questionable motives almost destroy them.

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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/live-alt-rock-band-crime-lawsuits-1234677011/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Kowalczyk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Jewelry

https://www.generationriff.com/post/30-years-of-live-s-mental-jewelry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Harrison

Public Affection profile: https://mediafiveent.com/archive/viewprofile.php?id=174

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kurfirst

Public Affection at CBGB in 1990: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oX9RWRemOI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_Records

https://popdose.com/whats-that-supposed-to-mean-live-lakinis-juice/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ed-kowalczyk-opens-up-about-his-ugly-split-with-live-198129/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/live-band-second-drummer-drama-1234686802/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hynes

https://www.pennlive.com/crime/2023/08/former-ceo-of-central-pa-company-embezzled-stole-millions-for-personal-gain-police.html

http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6965

http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7012&st=0&p=145244&

The podcast from Jan 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMUfrXKuqzk

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The boys burrow into the radio rock scene of the early-2000’s to examine three cases of bands in-fighting with former front men: Three Days Grace, Saliva, and Hinder. 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Days_Grace

https://www.resetera.com/threads/adam-gontier-teases-return-to-band-three-days-grace-up-confirmed.998784/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Threedaysgrace/comments/hxj7s4/three_days_grace_what_the_hell_happened/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Threedaysgrace/comments/ulfa46/can_someone_breakdown_the_entire_lore_of_adam/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saliva_(band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josey_Scott

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_(Chad_Kroeger_song)

https://metalinjection.net/news/breakups/salivas-reunion-with-josie-scott-over-before-it-started-it-aint-gonna-happen

https://blabbermouth.net/news/it-s-official-guitarist-chris-dabaldo-quits-saliva

Rhythm Section Podcast #51: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehn2aD2FrlQ

Rhythm Section Podcast #52: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ltWNvUdBI

Battleline podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNKgAKMmv6E

Explanation of name battle from Josey’s side: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=677041681036538

https://blabbermouth.net/news/josey-scott-hopes-to-eventually-be-able-to-perform-under-saliva-name-again

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/saliva-guitarist-wayne-swinny-dead-obit-1234702210/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/josey-scott-is-fine-with-saliva-carrying-on-without-any-original-members-they-will-do-the-honorable-thing

https://blabbermouth.net/news/ex-saliva-singer-josey-scott-explains-why-he-had-initially-avoided-meeting-bands-current-frontman-bobby-amaru https://www.oklahoman.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/08/29/oklahoma-rock-band-hinder-sues-former-lead-singer-austin-john-winkler/60578936007/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinder

https://blabbermouth.net/news/ex-hinder-frontman-austin-john-winkler-went-through-seven-rehabs-and-eight-sober-livings-before-achieving-sobriety

https://metalanarchy.com/2017/08/30/hinder-sue-former-singer-austin-winkler/

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The guys geek out about the first times they experienced the garage rock revival that was The White Stripes – and what it meant when they broke up and one half of the duo disappeared.

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The Craig Kilborn Show performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjC8zKByvls

The Upholsterers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zimV0QHKp2c

The Rosary Murders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oejqT2GRU-0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rosary_Murders

https://www.radiox.co.uk/artists/white-stripes/story-jack-and-meg-white-origins-marriage-split/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/relationship-meg-and-jack-white/

https://www.detroitbluessociety.org/New_Site_2016/historic_blues_clubs.htm

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-white-stripes-announce-their-break-up-250505/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-mysterious-case-of-the-white-stripes-75345/

The About A Girl Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/mu/podcast/meg-jack-white/id1540330358?i=1000527833456

https://gloriousnoise.com/2001/white_stripes_on_kilbourn_is_t

https://www.westword.com/music/unchanged-stripes-5070702

https://www.elle.com/culture/music/a43846386/meg-white-interview-2023/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_(album)

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Brian and Murdock get into the family drama that has surrounded the Godfather of Freak Folk’s wife and kids throughout the last decade and spell out which Zappas married famous, recorded novelty songs (3 of the 5!), and finally made it to the bank.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_Zappa

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/was-gail-zappa-a-good-custodian-of-the-zappa-legacy.962928/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/interactive/2024/frank-zappa-family-feud-moon-unit-dweezil/

https://www.billboard.com/pro/bennett-glotzer-music-manager-frank-zappa-janis-joplin-dies/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa

https://afka.net/Articles/1981-09_Music_Connection.htm

https://rhoerer.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/bunny-and-bear/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=UucabESONvY&t=5

https://www.afka.net/Articles/1996-06_Performing_Songwriter.htm

Billboard interview 1990: https://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Just_Plain_Folks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_Girl_(song)

https://www.thembj.org/2010/10/creativity-copyright-the-new-marketplace-an-interview-with-gail-zappa/

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/moon-zappas-complicated-relationship-with-valley-girl-40-years-later-i-just-was-trying-to-make-my-dad-laugh-203637351.html

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/01/14/Rock-singer-Frank-Zappa-wants-a-judge-to-stop/6852411368400/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dweezil_Zappa

https://bo.knittingfactory.com/tm-attraction/dweezil-zappa/

https://www.spin.com/2024/08/moon-unit-zappa-memoir-interview/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/emreturn-of-the-son-ofem_b_644624

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_Zappa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diva_Zappa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXHvR4hgxQE

https://deecrowseer.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/relative-values-moon-unit-and-diva-zappa/

https://www.zappanews.co.uk/interviews/dweezil-zappa

https://www.westernsouthern.com/retirement/family-trust

https://www.kcopplelaw.com/frank-zappa-and-estate-trustees/

https://www.thewealthadvisor.com/article/frank-zappa-trust-cuts-heirs-out-40m-family-name

https://www.tiaa.org/public/learn/retirement-planning-and-beyond/what-is-a-trust

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/inside-the-zappa-family-feud-104088/

Z (Dweezil and Ahmet’s band) 1993 festival performance – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQIrBSbNEgs

https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/lady-gaga-snaps-up-music-legend-frank-zappa-s-estate-40753

https://observer.com/2021/11/lady-gaga-sells-frank-zappa-hollywood-hills-home-lizzy-jagger/

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Brian and Murdock dissect the tall tale about that one time David Bowie hit on Axl Rose’s girlfriend – and then might have HIT Axl, too.

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https://www.loudersound.com/features/when-axl-rose-fought-david-bowie

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/david-bowie-sexuality-mick-jagger-affair/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/rip-david-bowie-gavin-haynes-828/

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jul/26/susan-sarandon-past-sexual-relationship-david-bowie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_(1983_film)

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/tina-turner-credits-david-bowie-with-saving-her-career-in-resurfaced-interview/DOPXLTZXJFD2PMTF2MWAI76W5Q/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_Sane

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeves_Gabrels

https://americansongwriter.com/remember-when-david-bowie-formed-a-band-and-got-loud-with-tin-machine/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Girl_(song)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_Dance_(David_Bowie_album)

https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/i-played-the-track-with-my-eyes-closed-and-i-would-see-him-the-cure-guitarist-reeves-gabrels-talks-recording-with-and-after-david-bowie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Machine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_So_Easy_(Guns_N%27_Roses_song)

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/watch-guns-n-roses-long-lost-its-so-easy-video-deemed-too-racy-mtv/

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-its-so-easy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Arkeen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite_for_Destruction

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls023409901/

https://bid.juliensauctions.com/lot-details/index/catalog/110/lot/47337/AXL-ROSE-BREAK-UP-LETTERS-TO-ERIN-EVERLY

https://grapevinefinearts.com/allnews3/erin-everly.html

https://www.rocksoffmag.com/erin-everly-axl-rose/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riki_Rachtman

https://cathousehollywood.com/pages/history

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/david-bowie-axl-rose-fight/

Axl after punch photo: https://www.reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/comments/1dbd3fu/picture_of_axl_taken_after_getting_punched_by/

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/axl-rose-punch-david-bowie/

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Brian and Murdock get a letter from a metalhead wanting the dudes to share the scoop on the world’s most famous death metal band: arson, Jim Carrey, sea worms and ALL!

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SHOW NOTES:

https://www.nme.com/news/music/former-cannibal-corpse-guitarist-pat-obrien-sentenced-for-role-in-bizarre-burglary-2933009

https://metal.fandom.com/wiki/Pat_O%27Brien_(guitarist)

https://www.metalsucks.net/2018/12/20/cannibal-corpse-release-statement-on-arrest-of-guitarist-pat-obrien/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_Corpse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_O%27Brien_(guitarist)

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cannibal_Corpse/186

The 2012 interview: https://www.loudersound.com/features/cannibal-corpse-death-metal-history-interview-2012

The Ace Ventura Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH3La3RJdNA

The Ace network-TV only scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myB6Cc4UAI8

https://www.vice.com/en/article/we-interviewed-cannibal-corpse-about-that-one-time-they-were-in-ace-ventura-pet-detective/

Jim Carrey on Arsenio talking about thrash metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBSBcFZEbl4

The guys from Metal Blade and CC talk about the Ace Ventura offer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSmPxs7DSyo

https://blabbermouth.net/news/inside-cannibal-corpses-1995-decision-to-fire-chris-barnes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Barnes_(musician)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Fisher_(musician)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevermore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_(band)

https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/cannibal-corpse-guitarist-jailed-in-tampa-on-burglary-assault-charges-20181211/

https://www.nme.com/news/music/former-cannibal-corpse-guitarist-pat-obrien-sentenced-for-role-in-bizarre-burglary-2933009

https://metalinjection.net/metal-crimes/cannibal-corpse-guitarist-pat-obrien-released-from-jail

https://metalinsider.net/video/exhorder-clarifies-pat-obriens-ex-cannibal-corpse-status-amid-new-album-announcement

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After hearing about the onstage meltdown of Jane’s Addiction, the guys go back to 1985 for one of the wildest tales of a band falling apart in public – that time one of the Butthole Surfers took a handful of acid tabs and tried to fight the world.

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Our Band Could Be Your Life by Michael Azerrad:

https://bookoutlet.com/book/our-band-could-be-your-life-scenes-from-the-american-indie-underground-19811991/azerrad-michael/9780316787536B

https://variety.com/2024/music/news/janes-addiction-concert-ends-fight-perry-ferrell-dave-navarro-punch-1236143977/

https://www.houstonpress.com/music/butthole-surfers-part-3-tom-bunch-on-signing-with-capitol-the-medias-problem-with-the-name-babysitting-the-buttholes-gibby-vs-paul-and-the-end-of-the-affair-6529021

https://www.alternativenation.net/the-10-most-legendary-perfromances-by-the-butthole-surfers/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blotter_art

https://www.healthline.com/health/how-long-does-acid-last#How-long-does-acid-last?

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The guys uncover a series of stories that seem to point towards an introspective period of Bob Dylan’s life – when he got sorta into trespassing. Hear how the troubadour found his own connections to John Lennon, Neil Young, and seemingly Bruce Springsteen.

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Deliver Me From Darkness: https://www.amazon.com/Deliver-Me-Nowhere-Springsteens-Nebraska/dp/0593237412

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/jersey-homeowner-calls-cops-bob-dylan/story?id=8331830#:~:text=Aug.,who%20he%20said%20he%20was.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/dylan-searching-home-springsteen-penned-born-run/story?id=8335824

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a26889/dylan-buble/

https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/mary-climbs-in/9781978827189/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/oct/20/house-where-bruce-springsteen-wrote-born-to-run-goes-on-sale

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_to_Run

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/bob-dylan-turns-up-at-neil-young-s-childhood-home-for-a-tour-1.755913

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/8046278.stm

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/articles/features/the_story_of_the_martin_d-28_used_by_hank_williams_bob_dylan_and_neil_young-164340

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_Wind

https://umgf.com/careful-with-hank-s-41-d-28-t140481-s40.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tut_Taylor

https://www.reddit.com/r/bobdylan/comments/k7x2v1/visited_bobs_childhood_home_this_morning/

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/bob-dylans-childhood-home

https://kool1017.com/mayim-bialik-visited-hibbing-to-see-personal-mecca-bob-dylan-home-went-to-the-wrong-house/

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Brian and Murdock explore the bad blood, big egos, and excellent alt rock that define the relationships Billy Corgan has with the rest of the musicians who made up the original Smashing Pumpkins line-up. The guys investigate what happened to that one original member who has never come back to the fold.

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The 2009 radio call: https://youtu.be/GwiUAfWo-Nk?si=cp5U7gIj_NOj210f

https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashingPumpkins/comments/1cvsw9r/what_really_happened_between_billy_corgan_james/

The 2018 Alternative Nation Interview: https://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-bassist-darcy-first-interview-in-20-years/#google_vignette

The 2018 text messages: https://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-darcy-shares-billy-corgan-guns-n-roses-reunion-offer/

The Billy interviewing D’arcy clip (1994): https://youtu.be/1qIhtKkrnuM?si=W011LiA_1GJoo0_Z

https://www.nova.ie/billy-corgan-reveals-entire-relationship-darcy-started-argument-113430/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Reed_Network

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Chamberlin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smashing_Pumpkins

https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashingPumpkins/comments/hj38gf/new_fan_what_happened_between_billy_and_darcy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_Dream

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/messy-story-behind-smashing-pumpkins-split/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Chamberlin

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/messy-story-behind-smashing-pumpkins-split/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/when-pavement-penned-a-track-to-insult-the-smashing-pumpkins/

https://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=145628

https://english.elpais.com/culture/2023-10-29/why-the-smashing-pumpkins-bassist-disappeared-without-a-trace.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27arcy_Wretzky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Iha

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/the-downfall-of-darcy-wretzky.465910/page-6

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The guys go back to the mid-80's to find out the varying circumstances that brought together (arguably) the greatest super group of all time.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Harrison

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Nine_(George_Harrison_album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Harrison

https://www.happyscribe.com/public/criminalia/my-guitar-gently-weeps-george-harrison-s-stalkers

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1664429/the-beatles-george-harrison-death-shot-quit-split

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/jeff-lynne-hang-out-with-george-harrison/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Lynne

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Move

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Light_Orchestra

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checking_Out_(1989_film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Orbison

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Hearts_(Roy_Orbison_album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Girl

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bob-dylans-secret-recording-session-with-george-harrison-and-friends-188040/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan

https://www.uncut.co.uk/news/bob-dylan-s-garage-studio-was-a-real-garage-there-may-even-have-been-lawnmowers-in-there-7698/

https://royorbisonjr.com/2017/10/09/tom-petty-2/

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Brian and Murdock examine the significance of Soul legend Curtis Mayfield, the amazing career that got him into the Rock Hall of Fame TWICE, and the fateful day in 1990 that would change his life forever.

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https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-multi-time-inductees/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Butler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Mayfield

https://wschronicle.com/senior-spotlight-jerry-butler-soul-survivor/

YouTube guitar lesson on Curtis’ style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaYasnu5Oi4

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/did-john-mayer-rip-off-curtis-mayfield-waiting-on-the-world-people-get-ready.103508/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Parks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Fly_(1972_film)

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/curtis-mayfield-super-fly-things-you-didnt-know-1364038/

https://magazine.waxpoetics.com/connections/hey-america/article/curtis-mayfield-gangster-boogie/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtom_Records

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtom_Records

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Markowitz

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/arts/music/16concerts.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/read-excerpt-from-curtis-mayfield-bio-detailing-tragic-accident-126593/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(album)

https://www.popmatters.com/curtis-mayfield-new-world-order-2496160140.html

https://www.goldradiouk.com/news/music/curtis-mayfield-accident-death/

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The guys unravel the “why” behind the 2005 reality show that featured INXS holding a competition to replace their legendary lead singer – and what happened to the formerly homeless dude who won the gig.

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Watch the whole season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSQj8S6AEC8&list=PLRclssR8khSnc-kGFpAtSzslub3_X1H6s

https://duranduran.fandom.com/wiki/INXS#:~:text=He%20wanted%20us%20to%20write,it%20was%20a%20good%20name.

https://medium.com/@duaneenglish_92144/backtracks-inxs-kick-a2c33d995a31

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/INXS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stevens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/mark-burnett-survivor-to-choose-the-new-inxs-front-man.35911/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Star:_INXS

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/a-new-reality-for-inxs-62008/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_(American_TV_series)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Breakfast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-Challenge

https://michaelhutchence.org/second-interview-with-kirk-pengilly/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idol

https://ew.com/article/2004/06/15/inxs-seek-new-frontman-mark-burnett-reality-show/

https://www.nydailynews.com/2004/08/19/one-on-chin-for-champ-judge-awards-a-point-to-rival/

https://www.deseret.com/2004/7/19/19840535/fox-goes-on-offensive-over-theft-allegations/?_amp=true

JD Fortune 2022 Rolling Stone Interview: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/jd-fortune-inxs-replacement-1234598190/

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Brian and Murdock go looking for an early 90’s advertisement that may or may not have featured members of a quintessential Seattle-based band who would go on to create Midwestern emo and have a founding member find a place in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

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https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/foo-fighters-nate-mendel-fights-and-sunny-day-real-estate-571438

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/articles/features/the_best_emo_album_of_the_90s_might_actually_be_a_grunge_masterpiece-165162

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_Day_Real_Estate

https://www.popmatters.com/sunny-day-real-estate-diary-atr30

https://www.subpop.com/artists/sunny_day_real_estate

https://www.avclub.com/sunny-day-real-estate-s-jeremy-enigk-on-being-the-reluc-1798252145

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_Old_Lu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Sprinkle

See the Nordstrom ad: https://x.com/s_martone/status/1367695846071009280?lang=en

https://riotfest.org/2018/05/18/jeremy-enigk-talks-about-sunny-day-real-estate-and-his-personal-musical-evolution/

http://www.fooarchive.com/features/mhp05_nate.htm

https://retailwire.com/discussion/nordstrom-sings-a-new-tune/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordstrom

South Park emo clips: https://youtu.be/H9oa46-kUqQ?feature=shared

https://www.avclub.com/sunny-day-real-estate-1798217697

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_Fighters

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/when-dave-grohl-joined-tom-petty-to-perform-on-snl/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Hoerner

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A listener letter asking for the details on Ozzy guitarist Zakk Wylde’s reputation leads the guys to unpacking a 20-year-old internet scam and the message board chaos it left in its wake.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ozzy_Osbourne_members

https://www.guitarworld.com/artists/zakk-wylde-and-ozzy-osbourne-revisit-1988s-no-rest-wicked

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/skid-row-pretty-bad-boys-203138/3/

Zakk audition demos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVxsFD3KXrE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakk_Wylde

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/ozzys_real_reason_for_firing_zakk_wylde.html#:~:text=The%20Brit%20legend%20had%20feared,getting%20the%20better%20of%20him.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090803085115/http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=124504

https://www.metalsucks.net/2009/08/05/joe-holmes-ozzy-outcast/#:~:text=Holmes%20replaced%20Zakk%20Wylde%20after,to%20hear%20them%20some%20day.

https://guitar.com/news/music-news/pizza-money-why-zakk-wylde-said-no-to-joining-guns-n-roses/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/zakk-wylde-s-webmaster-quits-over-357-customs-controversy

https://www.jcfonline.com/forum/other/non-jackson-charvel-related-talk/50474-357-is-at-it-again/page11

https://www.harmonycentral.com/forums/topic/1103167-some-interesting-357-information-on-daniel-bauguess-aka-the-boss/

https://www.guitars101.com/threads/357-customs-does-it-again-get-your-cheap-zakk-wylde-axe.39804/

Ebay listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/296434867396

Reddit thread on NASCAR diecast: https://www.reddit.com/r/NASCARCollectors/comments/sacnff/recently_bought_this_one_91_dick_trickle/

https://religionsucketh.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/motorcycle-clubs-zakk-wylde-and-ridiculousness/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/black-label-society-guitarist-says-people-take-the-band-s-image-too-seriously

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A listener’s curiosity regarding a relationship between Lenny Kravitz and Madonna leads the guys to uncover a song-centered story full of steamy videos, stolen credit, and a whole new musical genre.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justify_My_Love

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maripol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxie_Roker

https://people.com/music/all-about-lenny-kravitz-parents/

https://madonna-infinity.net/forums/topic/27511-lenny-kravitz-looks-back-at-recording-madonnas-justify-my-love-30-years-later/

Sean Lennon interview: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1853309328129779

https://parade.com/celebrities/lenny-kravitz-wife#:

https://store.lennykravitz.com/products/let-love-rule-book

https://www.eonline.com/news/996145/lenny-kravitz-opens-up-about-his-ex-nicole-kidman-and-if-he-ever-dated-madonna

Yahoo Entertainment Interview (2020):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sjtqBRXdCA

https://www.stereogum.com/2165394/the-number-ones-madonnas-justify-my-love/columns/the-number-ones/

https://insheepsclothinghifi.com/in-conversation-ingrid-chavez/

Ingrid Chavez – May 19, 1992 (full album): https://youtu.be/lBSUKvfvBF0?si=qwbK3gUB3vnZc5a5

https://princevault.com/index.php?title=Album:_Ingrid_Chavez

https://www.thecurrent.org/feature/2019/06/13/interview-ingrid-chavez-on-her-friendship-with-prince-and-working-with-him-as-paisley-par

 https://ew.com/article/1991/02/01/controversy-over-justify-my-love/

https://youtu.be/9https://www.stereogum.com

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The guys get nostalgic 90’s-style with a discussion centered around the possible theme-song thievery that could have happened with one of the most popular sitcoms of all time!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quick_(American_band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruzados

https://trouserpress.com/reviews/great-buildings/

The Quick – No No Girl – https://open.spotify.com/track/7noiFN2ziO9szNJHEhVP5o?si=913b14056d9b49b9

Great Buildings – Hold Onto Something – https://open.spotify.com/track/64nFgPDGTTf2SvabXiQ1JT?si=f8853c5f7b304054

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-12-13-ca-3950-story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rembrandts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atco_Records

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27ll_Be_There_for_You_(The_Rembrandts_song)

https://friends.fandom.com/wiki/Marta_Kauffman

https://jacksonupperco.com/tag/david-crane/page/2/

https://thefilmreel.movie.blog/2019/09/21/the-one-with-the-friends-pilot-script/

https://www.kennedy-center.org/education/resources-for-educators/classroom-resources/media-and-interactives/media/music/songs-about/television-theme-songs/

https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-134631.html#google_vignette

https://www.songfacts.com/facts/rem/stand

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiny_Happy_People

https://www.nme.com/features/rem-monster-interview-michael-stipe-mike-mills-cobain-phoenix-video-2562624

Jesse Frederick – You Can’t Hide Away: https://open.spotify.com/track/1MKH4ZDCLZ81oDYp46snJn?si=d8ae2ff993384c3a

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jaimieetkin/the-amazing-story-behind-the-friends-theme-song

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/friends-reunion-why-the-shows-theme-song-ill-be-there-for-you-is-still-so-popular__33222/

https://entertainment.time.com/2011/09/21/r-e-m-tv-they-stood-in-the-place-where-they-lived-video/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsnisapdHMo

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A listener asks about a twenty-year-old rumor that has Brian flexing his knowledge about emo and Murdock finding a way to tie the whole thing to – you guessed it – Motley Crue.

Hear the guys dig up the details (at least according to one party) of what happened backstage at a radio show in Indianapolis.

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https://www.punknews.org/article/9316/story-of-the-year-jumped-by-godsmack-at-radio-festival

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/story_of_the_year_vs_godsmack.html

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/story_of_the_year_vs_godsmack_update.html

https://www.concertarchives.org/concerts/x103-presents-may-day

https://www.wiux.org/article/2023/02/exploring-the-waves-of-emo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godsmack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_of_the_Year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Avenue

https://chorus.fm/features/interviews/dan-marsala-and-ryan-phillips-of-story-of-the-year/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/godsmack-frontman-confirms-cryin-like-a-bitch-was-inspired-by-events-of-cr-e-fest

https://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-295995-god-smack-lays-the-smack-down-story-of-the-year.html

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The guys tackle a pair of letters – one about Slipknot and the other about Tom Waits – BOTH about major food brands cashing in on impersonations.

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Slipknot 

https://www.loudersound.com/features/remember-the-time-slipknot-tried-to-sue-burger-king-over-a-chicken-fries-ad

https://www.loudersound.com/news/ross-robinson-did-not-like-slipknot-the-first-time-he-heard-them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipknot_(band)

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-definitive-history-of-every-slipknot-mask

https://beat.com.au/the-bronx-2/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BK_Chicken_Fries

https://slate.com/business/2012/01/crispin-porter-bogusky-how-the-hot-ad-agency-fell-from-grace.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/25/business/advertising-addenda-from-burger-king-music-to-eat-chicken-by.html https://www.tomzukoski.com/Burger-King-Coq-Roq-Integrated-Campaign

https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/slipknots-burger-king-beef

Tom Waits 

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-09-me-238-story.html

https://www.reuters.com/technology/scarlett-johansson-says-openai-chatbot-voice-eerily-similar-hers-2024-05-21/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Waits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Change_(Tom_Waits_album)

https://www.songfacts.com/facts/tom-waits/step-right-up

http://tomwaitslibrary.info/biography/interviews/tom-waits-is-flying-upside-down-on-purpose/

Dog food commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYOMPU18QjA

https://www.dallasobserver.com/music/the-variations-of-tom-waits-6400869

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The guys continue their deep dive into crowd crush catastrophes and examine the 1979 debacle in Ohio that still gets referenced every time things go wrong at a live music event. Learn about the history of the Who, the ongoing struggle of Cincinnati to move past this venue, and what it took to get general admission seating re-approved in the Midwest.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_Bank_Center

https://www.wlwt.com/article/new-arena-cincinnati-heritage-bank-center-stadium/45207009

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Moon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/phil-collins-picks-his-favourite-song-by-the-who/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenney_Jones

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/cincinnati-curbs-festival-seating-in-wake-of-who-disaster-73511/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/who-cincinnati-1979-concert-tragedy-return-1353845/

https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/rock-roll-tragedy-why-11-died-at-the-whos-cincinnati-concert-93437/

https://www.wcpo.com/news/the-who-the-night-that-changed-rock/the-who-concert-watch-the-wcpo-documentary-the-who-the-night-that-changed-rock

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cincy-lifts-the-who-concert-law/

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The guys get into the what actually happened at the 2021 AstroWorld catastrophe and talk Travis Scott, legal maneuvering, and who is really to blame when things go bad in a big crowd.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Flags_AstroWorld

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Scott

https://hypebeast.com/2018/7/travis-scott-giant-head-sculptures-new-york-houston-hollywood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroworld_Festival

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/travis-scott-astroworld-deaths-preceded-fan-injuries-2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroworld_Festival_crowd_crush

https://abc13.com/astroworld-timeline-what-happened-at-concert-crowd-crush/13441821/

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/court/2024/05/06/486722/astroworld-festival-trial-on-hold-as-apple-appeals-in-attempt-to-be-dismissed-from-lawsuits/

Charlamagne Tha God interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS9SvGvbSgw

Ace Frehley’s Facebook post: https://www.facebook.com/officialacefrehley/posts/443087673842907

Download (at your own risk!!) report on Satanic symbolism at AstroWorld: https://jurnal.ahmar.id/index.php/daengku/article/download/1059/696

https://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/something-extremely-dark-happened-at-travis-scotts-deadly-astroworld-festival/

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/05/1192343996/travis-scott-escapes-criminal-charges-for-the-deadly-crowd-surge-at-his-concert

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While working to answer a letter about a particular period in Neil Young's musical history, the guy's uncover an unexpected tear jerker of a story centered around the love of a father.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Young

The Squires - The Sultan: https://open.spotify.com/track/51nTjfDyu4EgVqlmvB3PQg?si=73afca22d5d6408b

The Pitchfork review of Trans: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/22905-trans/

https://thedissolve.com/features/interdisciplinary/94-the-dovetailing-musical-and-directorial-careers-of/

https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/trans-the-overlooked-prescience-of-neil-youngs-electro-album/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody%27s_Rockin%27

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvest_(Neil_Young_album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody%27s_Rockin%27

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_(album)

https://rockcelebrities.net/the-tragic-story-of-the-diseases-neil-youngs-children-suffered/

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/magazine/neil-young-comes-clean.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re%C2%B7ac%C2%B7tor

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Inspired by a recent chat about the commercial period of rock band Rainbow, Brian and Murdock research the career of Graham Bonnet – the mostly forgotten, unlikely frontman whose shot at being a superstar seemed to perpetually allude him while he instead helped perpetuate the careers of big bands and bigger egos.

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https://www.antiheromagazine.com/interview-graham-bonnet/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Gordon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marbles_(duo)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Bonnet

Trevor Gordon – House Without Windows – https://youtu.be/R3kgYurl7fQ?si=2CsdVwT4xN-59T88

The Marbles – Only One Woman – https://open.spotify.com/track/5JE9FCY8Kyy8IZjhhMriHV?si=09e29d77b5d74278

https://aaronjoyrockinterviews.blogspot.com/2016/02/its-my-own-fault-for-making-up-that.html

https://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beegees/69.html

https://books.google.com/books?id=f5LVBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA27

https://misplacedstraws.com/2021/06/a-conversation-with-iconic-vocalist-graham-bonnet.html

https://www.loudersound.com/features/rainbow-down-to-earth

https://www.loudersound.com/features/rainbow-down-to-earth

https://blabbermouth.net/news/graham-bonnet-says-he-was-once-approached-about-possibly-joining-black-sabbath

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schenker

https://blabbermouth.net/news/graham-bonnet-recalls-infamous-1982-show-with-michael-schenker-group-when-he-exposed-himself-to-crowd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Varney

https://blabbermouth.net/news/graham-bonnet-claims-yngwie-malmsteen-tried-to-strangle-him-nearly-four-decades-ago-he-grew-into-a-monster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steeler_(American_band)

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A listener letter leads the guys to nerd out on the unlikely career and success of Ronnie James Dio and that band he led before another rock legend came calling.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_James_Dio

Ronnie Dio and the Prophets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHgcFXcY_yo

First Time Reaction to Rainbow’s “Stargazer”

#1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiD9dzIa4J

#2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVP25CPi934

Remembering when Black Sabbath spent more on cocaine while making ‘Vol. 4’ than on the album itself

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/black-sabbath-cocaine-vol-4/

Sabbath live 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wexC2FMVsR4

Hear N Aid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_%27n_Aid

Elf, Sit Down Honey, Everything will be alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqLJP5-5y0s

Dio on South Park

https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/s24ibx/south-park-dio

“Ronnie James Dio: Unlocking His Secrets”

https://tprs.com/interviews/ronnie-james-dio-unlocking-his-secrets/

Find a Grave.com-Nick Pantas

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52407857/nicholas-zaharis-pantas

Doug Thayer interview

https://www.classicbands.com/DougThalerInterview.html

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The guys talk about “The Money Man” – the larger-than-life legend, backed by Bill Graham who seemed determined to kill himself with drugs in his first decade, and then relaunched his career by offering a different kind of legend a guest spot.

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https://www.gulfbreezerecovery.com/rehab-blog/eddie-moneys-drug-addiction-struggle/

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/eddie-money-no-control/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Money

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/eddie-money-dead-obit-884000/

Paste Magazine performance from 2011: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeQbY2F-vW4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winterland_Ballroom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_Winterland

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/eddie-money-bill-graham/

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/01/arts/judy-davis-the-stars-vocal-coach-81.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Money_(album)

http://barbra-archives.com/bjs_library/60s/judy_davis_story_1964.html

https://www.thewellnews.com/well-played/remembering-eddie-money/

Steven P Wheeler interview collection: https://rokritr.com/2019/09/14/eddie-money-in-memory-of/

https://www.inland360.com/lewiston-moscow/money-diversifies-before-their-new-reality-show-eddie-money-and-the-fam-play-lewiston/Content?oid=11372862

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Nevison

Ron Nevison interview: https://vwmusicrocks.com/2021/05/18/an-interview-with-record-producer-ron-nevison/

Interview clip with Dan Rather talking about the overdose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNFjCozbuiQ

Merv Griffin interview 1982: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-jCrdRYLT8

https://www.classicrockrevisited.com/show_interview.php?id=1260

https://americansongwriter.com/behind-the-death-of-take-me-home-tonight-singer-eddie-money/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richie_Zito

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_Me_Home_Tonight_(song)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Spector

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The guys dive into one of the stories that first inspired the whole idea for the show – the cutthroat business practices of Mr. Stephan Jenkins, the founder and singer of a band called Third Eye Blind.

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Suzaie by Splash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TtjwrrRfY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Jenkins

https://laughingsquid.com/mtv-basement-tapes-frank-zappa

https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Blind-Ambition-Third-Eye-Blind-leader-Stephan-2893749.php

https://riffmagazine.com/features/third-eye-blind-trademark/#google_vignette

https://floodmagazine.com/39035/how-its-going-to-be-why-two-former-members-of-third-eye-blind-cant-call-themselves-former-members-of-third-eye-blind/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Charmed_Life

https://www.bmi.com/news/entry/Real-World_Success_Story_Stephan_Jenkins_and_Third_Eye_Blind

https://www.ebar.com/story.php?ch=bartab&sc=live_music&id=289014

https://trialinsider.com/2013/10/16/third-eye-blind-rat-in-the-books/

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/third-eye-blind-frontman-and-drummer-save-children-from-drowning-a7077811.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Cadogan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Satriani

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/ex-third-eye-blind-guitarists-suit-heads-to-trial-75440/

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/third-eye-blind-self-titled-debut-album-oral-history-7751391/

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/guitarist-sues-his-former-band-members-third-2699021.php

Blue discussion between Stephan and Jason Carmer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdjiP6-s5Uw

https://jivewrites.wordpress.com/2020/11/12/third-eye-blinds-blue-is-the-most-interesting-sophomore-album-of-the-last-25-years/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

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A listener reaches out with a question about Hard Rock Cafe and the guys take it as an invitation to HUNGRILY investigate the history of rock n rollers owning eateries.

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https://www.yelp.com/biz/flavs-fried-chicken-clinton

https://y105music.com/flavs-fried-chicken-clinton-iowa-story/

https://www.mashed.com/305303/the-real-reason-britney-spears-restaurant-nyla-flopped/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/how-george-harrison-eric-clapton-27351422

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Rock_Cafe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Tigrett

https://www.jacksoncarnegie.com/stories/isaac-tigrett

https://conahanexperience.com/the-hard-rock-cafe-vault-london/

https://www.mashed.com/244933/the-untold-truth-of-hard-rock-cafe/

https://www.visittheusa.com/experience/rock-out-and-fill-restaurants-rock-n-roll-soul

https://www.rockandbrews.com/our-history

https://iowastartingline.com/2022/06/09/iowa-weird-flavor-flavs-failed-fried-chicken-restaurant/

https://www.mamaciminosvegas.com/about

https://www.clintonherald.com/news/lifestyles/mama-cimino-s-closes-doors/article_c908184c-af05-5200-b0f9-323033cf6950.html

https://myq1075.com/ixp/679/p/flavs-fried-chicken-clinton-iowa-story/#:~:text=Flav's%20Fried%20Chicken%20was%20a,first%20establishment%20in%20Clinton%2C%20IA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Y._Brown_Jr.

https://passiontainment.com/the-restaurant-ownership-is-the-top-new-celebrity-accessory/

https://www.businessinsider.com/review-jon-bon-jovi-jbj-soul-kitchen-restaurant-dining-experience-2022-4

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The guys give it their best shot when a teenage fan of the show writes to ask them to explain why that lady from Stranger Things has had so many songs written about her.

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https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/finn-wolfhard-winona-ryder-texts-rock-stars-she-dated-1235211313/

https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/h7nhhb/winona_ryder_and_adam_horovitz_aka_the_king/

https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/who-has-winona-ryder-dated-44108926

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/matthew-sweet-and-kristy-swanson-sweet-surrender-190851/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNWR3OenaPk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSt3v_tvVQA

Soul Asylum – Just Like Anyone (Official Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4gxSnP7RKc

https://www.hotpress.com/music/beck-laws-416297

https://everything2.com/title/Winona%2527s+Exes+-+A+Rock+Supergroup

https://themercury.com/winona-ryder-opens-up-on-her-secret-life-in-minnesota/article_dc5b7775-9162-5137-80eb-b15c3d4ff17f.html

https://www.spin.com/2021/10/matthew-sweet-girlfriend-30th-anniversary/

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/johnny-depp-v-amber-heard-how-heard-felt-about-depps-winona-ryder-tattoo/MIHXJFFMFYHNWP3XLEGTX4P354/

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/jun/18/winona-ryder-comeback-stranger-things-netflix

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_for_the_Road

https://littlevoiceuk.com/blog/songs-about-winona-ryder/

https://themeggiesue.substack.com/p/tms-muse-of-the-week-winona-ryder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Rides

https://winonaryder.proboards.com/thread/35/ryan-adams-on-dating-winona

https://twitter.com/BobMehr/status/1734354080141816253

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Brian and Murdock break down the three theories that have haunted many since the death of Sam Cooke back in December of 1964. Was it really just bad behavior gone worse? Or was Sam set up?

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Dream Boogie Peter Guralnick book: https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Boogie-Triumph-Sam-Cooke/dp/0316013293

UPI Report: https://www.newspapers.com/image/393958105/?fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjM5Mzk1ODEwNSwiaWF0IjoxNzEzODI4MjUzLCJleHAiOjE3MTM5MTQ2NTN9.WCnGsjb-fSQIY1jd-HtoRPqa8G1HOTKn2Bl3b_Dld8w

https://people.com/movies/why-mystery-still-shrouds-singer-sam-cookes-shooting-death-nearly-60-years-later/

https://blogs.loc.gov/now-see-hear/2021/02/on-the-recording-registry-a-change-is-gonna-come-1964/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/conspiracy-theory-death-of-sam-cooke/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Schmitt

https://nilssonschmilsson.com/martonis-210629103925.html

https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles/photos/a.578880922168631/2653685958021440/?type=3

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/mar/02/remastered-sam-cooke-murder

Remastered: The Two Killings of Sam Cooke Netflix doc: https://www.netflix.com/title/80191045

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Klein

FBI watching Ali info: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN14511P/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-history-behind-one-night-miami-180976768/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._W._Alexander_(musician)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Womack

The Soul Stirrer by Barney Hoskins: https://teachrock.org/article/the-soul-stirrer-sam-cooke/

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A listener letter sends the guys on the first of what could be many explorations into the backstories of some of the session musicians who made up the collective who would come to be known as “The Wrecking Crew.” Hear the story of the drummer who happened to be next door just in time to step into a powerful and historic musical moment.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Palmer

“I Hate My Generation” music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsNsOhyG8I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosimo_Matassa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_Records

Backbeat, the book: https://www.louisianamusicfactory.com/product/tony-scherman-backbeat-earl-palmers-story-book/

Modern Drummer feature: https://www.moderndrummer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/md352cs.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelly_Manne https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rock-hall-of-fame-drummer-earl-palmer-dead-at-84-254915/

https://www.adioslounge.com/sideman-spotlight-earl-palmer/

https://scottkfish.com/2016/01/23/earl-palmer-i-wasnt-quite-sure-what-i-wanted-to-do-with-my-life/

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-unlikely-story-of-a-change-is-gonna-come

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=100689&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=954#bottom

https://www.nytimes.com/1958/06/13/archives/musicians-strike-spreads-on-coast-independents-hit-by-afm-film.html

Avelo’s “The Strike that Changed Disney Music”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBsGwNJ54-M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boudreaux

https://www.npr.org/2014/02/01/268995033/sam-cooke-and-the-song-that-almost-scared-him

https://blogs.loc.gov/now-see-hear/2021/02/on-the-recording-registry-a-change-is-gonna-come-1964/

https://pan-african-music.com/en/a-change-is-gonna-come-a-hymn-for-civil-rights/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFO_Records

https://www.facebook.com/WreckingCrewFilm/posts/on-this-date-june-3-1967-the-instrumental-tracks-for-never-my-love-by-the-associ/10157450423118023/

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A photo of a whole lot of famous rockers in one place gets the guys researching a record label that redefined the way music was listened to and sold in 1970’s America.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-tel

The photo: https://qr.ae/psvMqm

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-dire-straits-thin-lizzy-eric-clapton-led-zeppelin-bad-company-and-109755815.html

https://www.discogs.com/release/12787001-Various-The-Summit

https://www.loudersound.com/news/led-zeppelin-once-released-a-song-on-k-tel-the-result-was-one-of-the-great-all-star-photos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Year_of_the_Child

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_the_Child

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerts_for_the_People_of_Kampuchea

https://americansongwriter.com/remember-when-the-concerts-for-the-people-of-kampuchea/

https://hercsktelalbums.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-summit-uk-january-1980.html

https://mymusicthroughtheyears.wordpress.com/2022/01/08/the-rise-and-fall-of-k-tel-records/

https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/k-tel-as-seen-on-tv-compilation-album-history

1997 Billboard ads celebrating KTEL: https://books.google.com/books?id=qQ4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA47-IA3&lpg=PA47-IA3&dq=K-Tel&source=bl&ots=C4AWmvPyX7&sig=ACfU3U2g9VCfSsuB5DT3Z-h2QJLfq56mZw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjd_-eXsav5AhUTg4kEHXgrDpg4WhDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=K-Tel&f=false

https://www.tampabay.com/incoming/k-tels-shouting-infomercial-legend-dies-at-87/2275511/

Fun stuff about the history of Teflon: 

https://misen.com/blogs/news/polytetrafluoroethylene

https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/202104/history.cfm

https://playback.fm/charts/top-100-songs/1938

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Gr%C3%A9goire

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/philip-kives-founder-of-k-tel-and-pioneering-pitchman-went-from-coveralls-to-riches

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The guys get into boy bands, big songs, and bad behavior (mixed with a little hotel history and a nod to classic literature) when a fan writes the show to ask about what really happened back in 1991 in their hometown of Louisville, KY when Jonathan, Jordan, Joey, Donnie and Danny came through for a night few would ever forget…

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Hotel_(Louisville,_Kentucky)

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/04/11/New-Kids-Wahlberg-settles-hotel-fire-case/1007671342400/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seelbach_Hotel

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-03-28-ca-1193-story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magic_Summer_Tour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Starr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Kids_on_the_Block

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Edition

https://www.billboard.com/music/features/new-edition-story-bet-movie-interview-7647963/

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-06-04-ca-2513-story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/11/arts/pop-view-white-singers-black-style-pop-bonanza.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/new-kids-on-the-block-from-puberty-to-platinum-112529/

https://www.nickiswift.com/263548/what-every-member-of-new-kids-on-the-block-is-doing-today/

https://tropedia.fandom.com/wiki/New_Kids_on_the_Block

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/new-kids-on-the-block-biography-wahlberg-knight-mcintyre-wood-375264/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangin%27_Tough

https://www.wecb.fm/the-scandal-that-left-new-kids-on-the-block-affected-after-being-accused-of-being-fakes/

https://www.nickiswift.com/458256/the-real-reason-donnie-wahlberg-nearly-got-20-years-in-prison/

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/28/style/chronicle-825491.html

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295452486665

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/03/27/New-Kids-Wahlberg-charged-with-arson/6668670050000/

Entertainment Tonight Report - Sept 90 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1h6AOq85Kc

Mad Magazine (Simpsons Clip) (youtube.com)

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The guys follow the Manson family from their time with a Beach Boy through the grisly murders that defined an address - and to the rocker who made a landmark album at the scene of their crime..

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origin story”! What made you the kind of nerd who listens to a show like this?

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Lane_Blacktop

https://www.biography.com/crime/charles-manson-dennis-wilson-friendship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Wilson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Melcher

https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/how-music-producer-terry-melcher-was-tied-to-charles-manson

https://time.com/5633973/last-manson-interview/

https://www.history.com/news/spahn-ranch-manson-family

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10050_Cielo_Drive

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mich%C3%A8le_Morgan

Trent Reznor’s New Wave Band: https://youtu.be/iWccbyICM_A?si=ERE7Avu2rRKvLO6z 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_Birds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Hate_Machine

https://www.loudersound.com/features/nine-inch-nails-downward-spiral-story-behind-album

https://adamsteiner.uk/2020/10/31/real-horrorshow-the-downward-spiral-and-trent-reznors-house-of-horrors/

Cielo Drive house camcorder walk-through: https://youtu.be/HwuEPJr847M?si=JVsJUEzsuMJj-kQg

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/revolutionary-vision-nine-inch-nails-studio-visit-trent-reznor/

https://discover.hubpages.com/entertainment/Hollywood-Macabre-Nine-Inch-Nails-Mariyln-Manson-Cielo-Drive

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/nine-inch-nails-connection-sharon-tate-murders/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gave_Up

https://discover.hubpages.com/entertainment/Hollywood-Macabre-Nine-Inch-Nails-Mariyln-Manson-Cielo-Drive

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Brian and Murdock examine their differing attitudes towards the post-grunge rock of Scott Stapp and Mark Tremonti and dig through the tabloid headlines to figure out what happened in that hotel bar on Thanksgiving of 2005.

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SHOW NOTES:

Over the Edge CD sampler on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/p/1300684030

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/scott-stapp-and-311-brawl-100131/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/311_(band)

https://thepier.org/311-20th-anniversary-of-grassroots-album/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Stapp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Hanson_(music_executive)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind-up_Records

Klosterman Creed piece: https://grantland.com/features/taking-concert-doubleheader-creed-nickelback-world-most-hated-bands/

https://www.mtv.com/news/cxi4cf/scott-stapp-in-car-accident-creed-tour-canceled

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=101228&page=1

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2003/04/28/some-creed-fans-are-singing-a-different-tune-after-concert/

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/creed-apologizes-for-bizarre-chicago-gig-72699/

https://311archive.com/performance-history/#2005

AP version of the story: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-creed-singer-in-hotel-fight/

https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=17022

scott stapp drunk poker – Video Search Results (yahoo.com)

Theo Von/Scott Stapp interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce4lSBWPoM

https://www.phillyvoice.com/pv-311-about-bar-fight-scott-stapp/

https://www.grunge.com/254884/how-scott-stapp-ended-up-completely-broke/

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The guys get into a stack of letters regarding rock songs that seem to be about a specific location and end up talking GNR, Huey Lewis, and… Rush Limbaugh.

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SHOW NOTES: 

https://www.songfacts.com/place/lafayette-indiana/paradise-city

https://musicfans.stackexchange.com/questions/373/is-the-song-paradise-city-written-about-a-specific-city

https://www.indystar.com/story/entertainment/2021/09/21/guns-n-roses-axl-rose-paradise-city-song-bloomington-indiana-claims/8418020002/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise,_Indiana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_City

Hanoi Rocks – Lost in the City

https://people.com/huey-lewis-upcoming-broadway-show-salvation-hearing-loss-exclusive-8552175

https://people.com/music/huey-lewis-menieres-disease-cancels-shows-hearing-loss/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Lewis_and_the_News

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/regional-versions-of-huey-lewis-the-heart-of-rock-n-roll.108524/

Alternate versions of “Heart of Rock and Roll” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqlr2qoa5Uc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_City_Was_Gone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akron,_Ohio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_to_Crawl

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/chrissie-hynde-rush-limbaugh/

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The guys get into showbiz history when they tear open a letter from a listener still trying to figure out what all the hype was about when it came to those blonde-haired Nelson twins.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozzie_Nelson

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2019/10/full-nelson-the-surprising-story-of-ozzie-and-harriet/

https://postcardhistory.net/2020/12/ozzie-and-harriet-and-david-and-rickee/

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/18/arts/dousing-the-glow-of-tv-s-first-family-time-for-the-truth-about-ozzie-and-harriet.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Live_(season_11)

https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/cant-live-without-your-love-affection-nelson-feature/

https://gabbyawards.blogspot.com/2018/01/saturday-night-live-season-11-reviews_30.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Ricky_Nelson

Nothin But a Good Time book: https://www.amazon.com/N%C3%B6thin-But-Good-Time-Uncensored/dp/1250195756

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Skelton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_(band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Nelson

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The guys go looking for anything to prove that the internet stories about Liam Gallagher harassing Jon Bon Jovi might be true. 

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SHOW NOTES:

https://www.stopcryingyourheartout.co.uk/2008/02/bon-jovi-on-his-spat-with-oasis-robbie.html

https://vinylwriters.com/liam-gallagher-a-modern-day-nietzsche/

https://twitter.com/NoelOasisQuotes/status/329323421752258561

https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-jovi-discussion-f7/jon-bon-jovi-and-the-songs-he-cleverly-t54006/page2.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Bon_Jovi

https://www.loudersound.com/news/richie-sambora-on-kiss-audition-i-didnt-want-the-gig

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Jovi

https://axeologyextended.wordpress.com/2018/09/20/ye-olde-10th-anniversary-tour-ace-frehley/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bon-jovi-keep-the-faith/

https://bonjovibg.tripod.com/instyle.htm

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/dried-up-oasis-1.132150

https://fanclubyears.home.blog/1995/06/28/bon-jovi-these-days-tour-sheffield-1995/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/uzvdg7/how_did_the_recordings_of_top_of_the_pops_go/

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/aug/05/jump-the-shark-top-of-the-pops

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-30326269.html

1st night at Wembley 1995 – https://youtu.be/7Op7SIDvXQc?feature=shared

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/jon-bon-jovi-destination-anywhere/

https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-jovi-discussion-f7/jon-bon-jovi-and-the-songs-he-cleverly-t54006/page2.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Here_Now_(album)

https://www.mtv.com/news/6h2xqh/oasis-singer-challenges-stones-beatles

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