Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain – Détails, épisodes et analyse

For those who celebrate, it’s that time of year. We’re dealing with the combo of holiday childhood nostalgia …and trauma.

Where does your chronic pain come from? And your chronic symptoms? It’s not your old injury. It’s not your undetectable embedded infection. It’s your trauma—and the patterns of self-abandonment your trauma caused.

In this episode:

🔹 Nostalgia from my childhood Christmases.

🔹 The complex dynamics of interpersonal trauma.

🔹 Trauma isn’t what you’ve been through, it’s how it impacted you.

🔹 A core impact of trauma: it leaves you more oriented towards self-abandonment than self-attunement.

🔹 Self-abandonment causes emotional repression and chronic pain.

🔹 Self-attunement is the work of healing from trauma.

🔹 Self-attunement is the work of healing from chronic pain.

🔹 Today, we get deep into self-attunement.

🔹 …and the profound connection between self-attunement and healing chronic pain.

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.

Nora’s been where you’ve been–in the depths of despair over her symptoms. She had severe back pain, terrible IBS, and truly all-consuming insomnia. Now, she’s fully recovered from all of the above. Listen to her amazing story for inspiration and for guidance.

Nora’s the co-founder and developer of a mindbody recovery app called Nervana. (Nervana, like nervous system meets nirvana.) Good, right? Nervana is brand new, it’s informed by the latest research, and it uses state-of-the-art technology to deliver mindbody healing to you. You can be one of the first to try Nervana, Search Nervana in the App Store or find Nervana online at trynervana.com/sean. Use code SEAN50 for $50 off.

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Try Nervana:

Search Nervana in the App Store

Find Nervana Online: trynervana.com

Use code SEAN50 for $50 off at checkout

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Other resources mentioned in today’s episode:

Waking Up App (for Meditation and Mindfulness)

Curable App

TMS Wiki

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.

Deb Malkin is a massage therapist, a hypnotist, and a pain coach. She helps people unlock the skills of pain elimination through understanding (and embodying) the neuroscience of the mind-body connection. It’s the same exciting stuff we talk about on this podcast. Deb gets it.

Deb’s also active in the world of body liberation and fat liberation. She brings that mindset to her work with the Association for the Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms. She and our colleague Amy Schere, LCSWA spoke on anti-fat bias at the ATNS conference and, honestly, caused a bit of a stir. This is a paradigm shift. Join us today cuz we’re talking all about it on the podcast.

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Find Deb:

Deb’s website: https://thecuriositycure.com/

Deb’s podcast: The Curiosity Cure

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Find Sean:

Visit my website to: Request a consultation for weekly individual therapy

Click here to: Ask a question on the podcast

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Other Resources from Today’s Episode:

Find info about: Amy Schere, LCSWA

ATNS Website: https://www.symptomatic.me/

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Dr. Gabor Maté is a physician in Canada. He’s an expert on addiction, childhood development, and trauma. His teachings highlight the conflict between two fundamental human needs: attachment and authenticity.

(And, no. He's not actually an interview guest. We're just talking about his work.)

People who struggle with chronic pain are the kinds of people who were taught somewhere along the line that we’re not truly allowed to be ourselves. We’re the kind of people who had to give up some (if not a lot) of our authenticity in order to maintain our attachments to others.

Chronic pain is caused by fear of sensations in the body, fear of emotions, and fear of the true self. If you’re struggling with chronic pain, this is your invitation to tune in to your authentic self. In doing so, you’re teaching your brain and your nervous system that it’s okay to be you. It’s safe to be you. Let’s talk about it. This is going to help you.

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Find Sean:

Visit my website to: Request a consultation for weekly individual therapy

Click here to: Ask a question on the podcast

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Resources from Today’s Episode:

When The Body Says No by Dr. Gabor Maté

In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Dr. Gabor Maté

The Myth of Normal by Dr. Gabor Maté

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Journal Prompt:

What authentic parts of YOU have you had to sacrifice in order to retain your attachment to your family, your community, and society?

In order to remain attached to _, I’ve had to sacrifice_.

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Skylar Whitman was diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (also called juvenile idiopathic arthritis) in 6th grade. She was 11. Her story started young. On top of the RA, she’s struggled with migraines, musculoskeletal pain, joint pain, severe wrist pain, and much more. Given her history with these symptoms, her story of recovery is seriously profound.

Listen as Skylar moves from “these are the cards I’ve been dealt,” and “I’m a victim” to true, robust mind-body healing. Mind-body medicine has the power to shift the symptoms of autoimmune conditions. If you want proof, Skylar’s story is for you. She goes from having twelve to fourteen different swollen joints, to finding mind-body work, to her rheumatologist suggesting she could be entering remission. It’s an inspiring ride. Join us.

Find Sean:

Visit my website to: Request a consultation for weekly individual therapy

Click here to: Ask a question on the podcast

Find Skylar:

PDF starter kit: https://healingwithskylar.com/

Instagram: @healingwithskylar | @skylarwhitman

Resources Mentioned on Today’s Episode:

Ellen Ronka’s Program: Chronic to Cured with Ellen Ronka

Mind & Fitness Podcast Interview with Ellen Ronka

Mind & Fitness Podcast Interview with Skylar Whitman

…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Doubting your ability to recover? Totally normal. You're not alone. Listen to my latest journey through doubt for a little comfort, a little normalization, and a little proof that the doubt is wrong. Mindbody medicine works for chronic pain. Period.

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Grace has a truly amazing mindbody recovery story. She gets it. She’s been there. She’s recovered from so many different symptoms including Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome Pain, Food Sensitivities, Mold Toxicity, Severe Headaches, and more. Her story’s inspiring. And now she can help you. She’s a therapist and leads a weekly group coaching program called the Mind-Body Healing Method.

If you’re stuck in your healing, I have a solution for you. I say this with love: stop trying to do it alone. Reach out to Grace. Reach out to me. There is help and support. You deserve it. And Grace has a special fall discount on her program. Do something kind for yourself. Now’s the time.

Find Grace:

Mind-Body Healing Method - Fall Discount

Instagram

Heal with Grace Podcast

Website

Find Sean:

Visit my website to request a therapy consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Listen to the interview on How To Trust Yourself with Anna Holtzman: Trusting Your Voice & Healing Chronic Pain with Sean Hershey

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

You're invited! We're celebrating the culmination of 2 podcast seasons with a live, in-person party. I had a bunch of friends over, we had a great time, and we even recorded a brief bonus episode. Join the fun.

Contact me:

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

I'm going to throw out a hypothesis: You Deserve To Be Your True Self.

Right? Doesn't everyone? I hope so. Now, I don't know all the existential laws of the universe. But I'm learning to tune into my body, which is part of this universe. And I'm helping you learn to tune into your body, also part of this universe. Let's learn to trust our bodies. Today we're exploring the traumas that cut us off from our true selves... and we're talking about how to heal. We're getting existential today, it's the season finale, and you're gonna like this one.

Contact Me:

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Book Mentioned: Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Katie Estridge, PT, PYT is a physical therapist, professional yoga therapist, pain coach, and meditation teacher. She shares her amazing journey from a severe regular migraine sufferer to chronic-migraine-free. And you already know what cured her: Mind-body work. Now she offers this as part of her physical therapy practice. Join the conversation as Katie tells us how she recovered, talks about the mind-body lens turning her professional world upside down, feels "this is negating my whole profession," and then finds a way to beautifully blend the physical, the psychological, and the emotional to help her patients recover from pain and other chronic conditions. It's inspiring. This is a great one.

Find Katie:

Website: qcpyt.com (it used to be queencitypyt)

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/queencitypyt

And Katie does work for: https://www.curablehealth.com & https://www.theaftercancer.com

Find Sean:

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.