For those who celebrate, it’s that time of year. We’re dealing with the combo of holiday childhood nostalgia …and trauma.

Where does your chronic pain come from? And your chronic symptoms? It’s not your old injury. It’s not your undetectable embedded infection. It’s your trauma—and the patterns of self-abandonment your trauma caused.

In this episode:

🔹 Nostalgia from my childhood Christmases.

🔹 The complex dynamics of interpersonal trauma.

🔹 Trauma isn’t what you’ve been through, it’s how it impacted you.

🔹 A core impact of trauma: it leaves you more oriented towards self-abandonment than self-attunement.

🔹 Self-abandonment causes emotional repression and chronic pain.

🔹 Self-attunement is the work of healing from trauma.

🔹 Self-attunement is the work of healing from chronic pain.

🔹 Today, we get deep into self-attunement.

🔹 …and the profound connection between self-attunement and healing chronic pain.

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.

Nora’s been where you’ve been–in the depths of despair over her symptoms. She had severe back pain, terrible IBS, and truly all-consuming insomnia. Now, she’s fully recovered from all of the above. Listen to her amazing story for inspiration and for guidance.

Nora’s the co-founder and developer of a mindbody recovery app called Nervana. (Nervana, like nervous system meets nirvana.) Good, right? Nervana is brand new, it’s informed by the latest research, and it uses state-of-the-art technology to deliver mindbody healing to you. You can be one of the first to try Nervana, Search Nervana in the App Store or find Nervana online at trynervana.com/sean. Use code SEAN50 for $50 off.

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Try Nervana:

Search Nervana in the App Store

Find Nervana Online: trynervana.com

Use code SEAN50 for $50 off at checkout

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Other resources mentioned in today’s episode:

Waking Up App (for Meditation and Mindfulness)

Curable App

TMS Wiki

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.

Deb Malkin is a massage therapist, a hypnotist, and a pain coach. She helps people unlock the skills of pain elimination through understanding (and embodying) the neuroscience of the mind-body connection. It’s the same exciting stuff we talk about on this podcast. Deb gets it.

Deb’s also active in the world of body liberation and fat liberation. She brings that mindset to her work with the Association for the Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms. She and our colleague Amy Schere, LCSWA spoke on anti-fat bias at the ATNS conference and, honestly, caused a bit of a stir. This is a paradigm shift. Join us today cuz we’re talking all about it on the podcast.

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Find Deb:

Deb’s website: https://thecuriositycure.com/

Deb’s podcast: The Curiosity Cure

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Find Sean:

Visit my website to: Request a consultation for weekly individual therapy

Click here to: Ask a question on the podcast

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Other Resources from Today’s Episode:

Find info about: Amy Schere, LCSWA

ATNS Website: https://www.symptomatic.me/

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Dr. Gabor Maté is a physician in Canada. He’s an expert on addiction, childhood development, and trauma. His teachings highlight the conflict between two fundamental human needs: attachment and authenticity.

(And, no. He's not actually an interview guest. We're just talking about his work.)

People who struggle with chronic pain are the kinds of people who were taught somewhere along the line that we’re not truly allowed to be ourselves. We’re the kind of people who had to give up some (if not a lot) of our authenticity in order to maintain our attachments to others.

Chronic pain is caused by fear of sensations in the body, fear of emotions, and fear of the true self. If you’re struggling with chronic pain, this is your invitation to tune in to your authentic self. In doing so, you’re teaching your brain and your nervous system that it’s okay to be you. It’s safe to be you. Let’s talk about it. This is going to help you.

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Resources from Today’s Episode:

When The Body Says No by Dr. Gabor Maté

In The Realm of Hungry Ghosts by Dr. Gabor Maté

The Myth of Normal by Dr. Gabor Maté

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Journal Prompt:

What authentic parts of YOU have you had to sacrifice in order to retain your attachment to your family, your community, and society?

In order to remain attached to _, I’ve had to sacrifice_.

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Skylar Whitman was diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (also called juvenile idiopathic arthritis) in 6th grade. She was 11. Her story started young. On top of the RA, she’s struggled with migraines, musculoskeletal pain, joint pain, severe wrist pain, and much more. Given her history with these symptoms, her story of recovery is seriously profound.

Listen as Skylar moves from “these are the cards I’ve been dealt,” and “I’m a victim” to true, robust mind-body healing. Mind-body medicine has the power to shift the symptoms of autoimmune conditions. If you want proof, Skylar’s story is for you. She goes from having twelve to fourteen different swollen joints, to finding mind-body work, to her rheumatologist suggesting she could be entering remission. It’s an inspiring ride. Join us.

Find Sean:

Visit my website to: Request a consultation for weekly individual therapy

Click here to: Ask a question on the podcast

Find Skylar:

PDF starter kit: https://healingwithskylar.com/

Instagram: @healingwithskylar | @skylarwhitman

Resources Mentioned on Today’s Episode:

Ellen Ronka’s Program: Chronic to Cured with Ellen Ronka

Mind & Fitness Podcast Interview with Ellen Ronka

Mind & Fitness Podcast Interview with Skylar Whitman

…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Doubting your ability to recover? Totally normal. You're not alone. Listen to my latest journey through doubt for a little comfort, a little normalization, and a little proof that the doubt is wrong. Mindbody medicine works for chronic pain. Period.

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Grace has a truly amazing mindbody recovery story. She gets it. She’s been there. She’s recovered from so many different symptoms including Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome Pain, Food Sensitivities, Mold Toxicity, Severe Headaches, and more. Her story’s inspiring. And now she can help you. She’s a therapist and leads a weekly group coaching program called the Mind-Body Healing Method.

If you’re stuck in your healing, I have a solution for you. I say this with love: stop trying to do it alone. Reach out to Grace. Reach out to me. There is help and support. You deserve it. And Grace has a special fall discount on her program. Do something kind for yourself. Now’s the time.

Find Grace:

Mind-Body Healing Method - Fall Discount

Instagram

Heal with Grace Podcast

Website

Find Sean:

Visit my website to request a therapy consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Listen to the interview on How To Trust Yourself with Anna Holtzman: Trusting Your Voice & Healing Chronic Pain with Sean Hershey

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

You're invited! We're celebrating the culmination of 2 podcast seasons with a live, in-person party. I had a bunch of friends over, we had a great time, and we even recorded a brief bonus episode. Join the fun.

Contact me:

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

I'm going to throw out a hypothesis: You Deserve To Be Your True Self.

Right? Doesn't everyone? I hope so. Now, I don't know all the existential laws of the universe. But I'm learning to tune into my body, which is part of this universe. And I'm helping you learn to tune into your body, also part of this universe. Let's learn to trust our bodies. Today we're exploring the traumas that cut us off from our true selves... and we're talking about how to heal. We're getting existential today, it's the season finale, and you're gonna like this one.

Contact Me:

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Book Mentioned: Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Katie Estridge, PT, PYT is a physical therapist, professional yoga therapist, pain coach, and meditation teacher. She shares her amazing journey from a severe regular migraine sufferer to chronic-migraine-free. And you already know what cured her: Mind-body work. Now she offers this as part of her physical therapy practice. Join the conversation as Katie tells us how she recovered, talks about the mind-body lens turning her professional world upside down, feels "this is negating my whole profession," and then finds a way to beautifully blend the physical, the psychological, and the emotional to help her patients recover from pain and other chronic conditions. It's inspiring. This is a great one.

Find Katie:

Website: qcpyt.com (it used to be queencitypyt)

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/queencitypyt

And Katie does work for: https://www.curablehealth.com & https://www.theaftercancer.com

Find Sean:

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

This is a 9.5-minute Somatic Tracking exercise. Listen now, and save it for later. Allow yourself to fully experience this one. Maybe many times over. Allow this practice to help you.

Somatic tracking is most helpful when your symptoms are mild or moderate. With somatic tracking, the goal is to feel your symptoms and sensations through a lens of safety. It can be hard to feel truly safe when your symptoms are severe. That's why somatic tracking's recommended at times when symptoms are mild or moderate. But, you know you. Try this practice. Experiment with it. Remember, the goal is NOT to make the symptoms go away. The goal is to feel the symptoms and view them through a lens of safety.

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. You're very welcome. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

We're diving deep into somatic tracking today. Learn about the three parts of somatic tracking: 1) mindfulness, 2) safety reappraisal, and 3) positive affect induction. This is a powerful way to bring the psychological work into your life and make it concrete. Join us and learn how to implement somatic tracking in your healing.

Also, today, we take a look at your daily practice. How's that going? Getting out of pain, for most of us, takes work. It takes a serious mindset shift. And that takes some effort. It might even take the *effort* of relaxing, the *effort* of letting go, the *effort* of surrender. Whatever you need, take the time to reflect with us today. It'll help you move forward.

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. You're very welcome. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Most discussions about breaking intergenerational trauma cycles are discussions about parenting. Awesome. That's great. And... what if you don't have children? What will you pass on? Does your healing matter to anyone aside from yourself? Join us for a conversation about breaking cycles of intergenerational trauma when you're gay and/or when you don't have children.

In this episode:

• A vision I had in a dream (...yeah)
• Some personal examples of intergenerational trauma
• Breaking cycles of intergenerational trauma
• A discussion of the unique energy that you carry in your being
• The universal human need to be seen and known
• An invitation for you to explore how you can help heal intergenerational trauma simply by putting your energy out into the world
• An invitation to ask yourself: Will my healing matter to anyone aside from me?

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

What is Pain Reprocessing Therapy? What is Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy? What is the Boluder Back Pain Study? Good questions. Dr. Michael Dow takes us inside for a closer look at all of the above. Join us. I'm sure you'll learn something new. I know I certainly did.

Find Michael:

If you're a practitioner interested in a professional supervision or consultation group, Michael offers exactly that! And he'd love to have you join. He also has some spaces open for individual therapy clients. Reach out to him at: michaelmdow@gmail.com or https://drmichaeldow.com/

Find Sean:

If you're ready to take your healing deeper, become a 1-on-1 therapy client. You're very welcome. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Books mentioned in the discussion:

Hardwiring Happiness by Rick Hanson, PhD

The Experience Machine: How Our Minds Predict and Shape Reality by Andy Clark

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

The hope/letdown cycle. The specific medical providers who’ve failed you. The extreme treatments. It’s all been so much. Now you don’t trust the medical system. And you’ve internalized the idea that you’re incurable. So let’s feel into that trauma together. This is a deep one — and a long one. But it’s worth it. We’re going to a) feel into your trauma in order to heal, and b) consider letting go of the incurable idea. You know more now. You can feel safer now. Join us as we go deep into the trauma …and as we learn to rewrite the narrative. Let’s give your story a hopeful ending.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Integrative health coach Christina Wei joins us today on the podcast - and we get into the deep side of chronic pain healing. This work often brings people, eventually, into a place that feels spiritual. “I couldn’t define for you ‘what is God,’ but I think I can define for you what isn’t.” And “the only thing that can save me is unconditional love for myself.” Yeah. This is the direction we're going in today. And it’s such an important piece of your healing. Join us and go there with us.

Connect with Christina: ChristinaWeiHealthCoaching.com

Christina's Upcoming Class - Overcoming Chronic Pain: Yes, It's Possible!: https://basberkeley.asapconnected.com/?org=2688#CourseID=305696

Connect with Sean: If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome. Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Books Mentioned in the Conversation:

A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle

The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle

Healing Back Pain by John Sarno, MD

The Mindbody Prescription by John Sarno, MD

Graves' Disease And Hyperthyroidism: What You Must Know Before They Zap Your Thyroid With Radioactive Iodine by Sarfraz Zaidi, MD

Christina also recommends the book: Stress Cure Now: A Stress Management Book with a New, Logical, and Effective Approach by Sarfraz Zaidi, MD

TMS Wiki:

https://www.tmswiki.org/w/index.php?page=The_Tension_Myositis_Syndrome_Wiki

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Is chroinc pain a mental illness? Well, I'd say that's the wrong question. Join us for a slightly off-the-beaten-path conversation about mental illness, chronic pain, and the crazy of it all. It'll be fun. And you'll learn a little more about managing fear so you can keep the "threat" out of the pain-threat cycle and heal from your pain.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Dr. Radhika Reddy shares her healing journey with hand pain, tendonitis, repetitive strain injury, joint pain, plantar fasciitis, shoulder pain, ankle pain, knee pain, hip weakness, fatigue, sound sensitivity, light sensitivity, temperature sensitivity, chemical sensitivity, food sensitivities, numbness, tingling, hives, and eczema. It's a lot of symptoms. And, I know, a lot of us can relate. Join us as we discuss Radhika's 5 years of healing - and her many, many compelling successes. It's incredibly inspiring. Spoiler alert: her hands are chronic-pain-free!

Radhika's a psychologist who sees clients for OCD and, of course, for chronic pain.

Find Radhika: www.drradhikareddy.com

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/radhika-reddy-san-francisco-ca/708279

Find Sean: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

You're invited behind the scenes. Nyle and I recorded a podcast interview (S2 E3-Talking Queer TMS with Nyle Biondi, LMFT). Afterwards, and as the podcast came out, we had a hilarious - and classic TMS personality - conversation. We wanted to share the conversation, and our analysis of the process, with you. Consider this your backstage pass. Join us, because this is a fun one. And it's packed with solid healing wisdom.

Find Nyle:

www.healingwithinpsychotherapy.com

Find Sean:

www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

The cure for chronic pain is emotional and psychological work. We know this. So, how dare I discuss body-based TMS treatments? Right? Well… today we’re talking about bringing the psychological work into the body. This means using the body to teach the brain and the nervous system that you're safe. You know about using the brain to promote safety - and today we’re talking about using the body to promote safety. We’re discussing bottom-up approaches to regulate the nervous system and to heal from chronic pain. Join us for a deep dive.

Links from today’s episode:

Beautiful Voyager the Podcast - with Meredith Arthur: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beautiful-voyager/id1521910016

Clinical Somatics - with Sarah Warren: https://somaticmovementcenter.com/

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Queer TMS, the importance of identities, and politics, politics, politics. We could just *not* acknowledge it, but we have to. Right? Listen in for a great conversation about queerness and TMS and healing chronic pain and all the stuff we love to talk about... with Nyle Biondi, LMFT.

Find Nyle at:

www.healingwithinpsychotherapy.com

https://queerresilience.substack.com

Find Sean at:

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

As you’re healing from chronic pian, your brain needs a lot of reminders. Today, we’re going back to the basics. Your brain needs to hear it. So let’s get back into Dr. Sarno's foundational premise: think psychologically, not physically. As you know, that's how you heal TMS. Your brain, however, still needs to hear it again.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Michelle's walking this path of TMS healing with us. And she's been a client in my therapy practice for about a year. She offered to share her story on the podcast today and ...what a generous offer. I'm so grateful for the wisdom and nuance and personal touch she brings to this conversation. Join us as we talk about the "messy middle," which is a Nicole Sachs term for that hard part of the work - that part where you know you have TMS but your symptoms aren't budging. Or they're not budging enough. It's frustrating and it's difficult. And it can last for quite some time.

This one's for all of you who've ever asked yourself, in desperation, "why am I not better yet?" Right? Cuz that's so painful. Literally physically painful ...and, of course, emotionally painful too. This is a great conversation. Listen to it today - and save it for the future in case you need it again. Because healing takes time. And that's okay. That's normal. And Michelle and I are here with you to keep you company. You're on the right track. You got this.

Michelle is also a therapist! She's located in upstate New York and she's able to see clients remotely. If you're interested in contacting her about becoming a client of hers, you can reach her at: michellerussolcsw@gmail.com or michellerussolcsw.com

And if you're interested in becoming a therapy client in Sean's practice, you can visit the website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Amy Yarin’s had over 30 different diagnoses. Back pain, Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, tinnitus, idiopathic hypersomnia, spinal stenosis, scoliosis, car accident, an extra rib, opioid addiction.... She was bed-bound with “24-hour 1500/10 pain.”

And now she’s doing great! Isn’t that wild? If you doubt the power of mind-body work, this episode is for you. Join us for Amy’s astounding TMS recovery story. This is a modern-day miracle.

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Find Sean:

Visit my website to: Request a consultation for individual therapy

Click here to: Ask a question on the podcast

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Resources from today’s episode:

YouTube | Gigi Cockell / Dan Buglio Interview

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Stories communicate truth. And today, I’m telling one of my all-time favorite stories. Join us for the season finale as we do something a little different. But,  in the end, it’s always about healing your chronic pain - so it’s always the same.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Visit my website to request a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

…and you’re listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

An energizing and exciting interview today with a true mind-body expert, Dr. Dan Ratner. You'll love his confidence, his assuredness, and his vibe. It'll help you boost your own confidence in this work and in your ability to heal. Join us for some great information and a very good time.

If you want more information about Dr. Dan Ratner and his work, including his new book Crushing Doubt: An Advanced System for Mind-Body Pain and Symptom Relief, everything’s right here: www.crushingdoubt.com

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Contact me through my website and we can set up a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

You’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Today we discuss journaling and beyond. We push past aversion energy and feel into difficult emotions around body image, trying to conform to high cultural standards, and saying “okay” to life rather than saying “oh no.” Wow. There’s a lot of good material in this episode.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Contact me through my website and we can set up a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

If you want more information about Dr. Jeffry Iovannone and his work, here’s a bunch of awesome stuff:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/repost-200-how-diet-culture-harms-the-gay-community/id700512884?i=1000526241747 (the interview starts about 20 minutes into the episode)

https://jeffry-iovannone.medium.com/

https://thinkqueerly.com/why-is-there-no-gay-mens-body-liberation-movement-af5eabe7acf

https://www.instagram.com/drjeffqueerhistorian/

You’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Bonus episode today! I'm sharing some website updates with you. This episode is a little one, but a powerful one. Enjoy!

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Contact me through my website and we can set up a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

You're listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

My friend and colleague joins us today! Laura Pearl is the friend who first introduced me to the idea of using mind-body healing for chronic pain. Today, she’s here sharing her story about arthritis, knee pain, using a cane, and emotional healing that led to physical healing. Laura’s also, of course, a trauma specialist and shares insights into trauma therapy …you’re not gonna want to miss this one.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you can contact me through my website and we can set up a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

If you’re interested in becoming a therapy client of Laura Pearl's, you can easily contact her through her website: https://laurapearllcsw.com

You’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Learn to enjoy your body as you recover from chronic pain. Today we discuss a key tactic, graded exposure. And, yes, we are going to talk about sex today. So join us if you'd like!

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome. Contact me through my website and we can set up a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Christina Sarno Horner, LMHC joins us to discuss the evolution of her father's TMS work, feeling stuck in your healing, letting go of fear, neck pain, long covid, and so much more.

Christina collaborated with Nicole Sachs, LCSW on a brilliant practitioner training (with CEs offered for professionals) that can be found here: https://www.yourbreakawake.com/sarnosachs

Reach Christina's Brooklyn-based private practice, Suite 14 Psychotherapy, here: https://www.suite14psychotherapy.com/

...and you're listening to the Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain Podcast!

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, dealing with extreme emotions, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, huge leaps forward, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to truly get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

It's hard to tell people about TMS. Right? I know. Let's talk.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Contact me through my website and we can set up a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, dealing with extreme emotions, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, huge leaps forward, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to truly get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a written review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Healing: Pt 3 of 3. The 3rd part of healing: teaching your brain and your nervous system that it's safe to be you.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Contact me through my website and we can set up a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, dealing with extreme emotions, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, huge leaps forward, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to truly get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, and leave a review. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Healing: Pt 2 of 3. The emotional work of healing: teaching your brain and your nervous system that emotions are safe.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Contact me through my website and we can set up a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, dealing with extreme emotions, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, huge leaps forward, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to truly get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes and leave a review.

Freedom from pain. We all talk about it. We all want it. But… what does freedom really mean? What does freedom mean to you?

In this episode:

• A few mind-body client testimonials
• The importance of “freedom” as a value
• Cultural associations with the term “freedom”
• Confusion about the meaning of “freedom”
• The co-opting of the term “freedom”
• The tendency we have, as people who’ve suffered from chronic pain, to ignore our inner guidance and, instead, take cues from the external world. But external cues don’t always apply to our inner selves.
• An invitation to tune in to yourself to ask, “What does freedom mean to you?”

Mentioned in this episode:

• WNYC | The Brian Lehrer Show
• Anat Shenker-Osorio
• Words to Win By Podcast
• Nina Simone: I Wish I Knew How It Would Feel To Be Free

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Find Sean:

Visit my website to: Request a consultation for individual therapy

Click here to: Ask a question on the podcast

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Healing: Pt 1 of 3. Today we discuss Part 1 of the 3-part healing journey: the Psychological Work.

If you're interested in becoming a weekly therapy client, I'd love to work together. You can contact me through my website to set up an initial consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, dealing with extreme emotions, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, huge leaps forward, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to truly get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

Bonus Episode: Thank You, Thank You, Thank You ...& What's Coming Up!

If you're interested in becoming a weekly therapy client, I'd love to work together. You can contact me through my website to set up an initial consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, dealing with extreme emotions, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, huge leaps forward, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to truly get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

Is my *insert symptom here* TMS? Let's talk about it.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, dealing with extreme emotions, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, huge leaps forward, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to truly get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're interested in becoming a 1-on-1 therapy client, you're very welcome! Contact me through my website and we can set up a consultation: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes and leave a review.

✨Start here.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Chronic Headaches, Migraines, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Arthritic Conditions, Depression, Anxiety, and Long Covid.

Today's the introduction. Sean introduces himself, tells his story, and previews the information about healing chronic pain, symptoms, and conditions yet to come.

Please follow the show for future episodes.

If you're interested in 1-on-1 therapy you can reach me at: www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

My name is Sean Hershey and this is Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

This podcast is an absolutely free resource for anyone who is struggling with chronic pain, chronic symptoms, or chronic conditions. This podcast is for people like me. You’ve gone through the Western medical model and it has not worked for you. Now you’ve finally found the right treatment: mindbody medicine. Even though you feel hopeless, you’re still, somehow, miraculously, hopeful. This is for you. And, I’m telling you, when it comes to chronic pain, mindbody medicine actually works.

I am both therapist and client in this work. After decades of my own symptoms, I’m mostly out of chronic pain now - and I’m a total shameless work-in-progress who still isn’t “there” yet. So I bet I’m probably, in some way, kind of like you. Whether you’re just starting out on your mindbody healing path - or you’ve been at this for years, there’s something here for you.

In this podcast, I cover: Pain as a danger signal, the Pain/Threat cycle, and, most importantly, the 3 parts of healing: First) healing through the Psychological work, Second) healing through the Emotional work, and Third) healing through Patiently attuning to your true self.

My promise to you is that I will share clear and correct information about healing chronic pain, from my personal experience and my professional knowledge…

So that you have the education you need…

And, even more importantly, to provide you with the company of someone else walking this path so you don’t have to do it alone.

Season 1 of this podcast will release every Sunday morning so you have an episode for each week. I’m going to start with 12 episodes in the first season. Then we’ll go from there. So find Mindbody medicine for chronic pain wherever you get your podcasts. It’s totally free to listen. I’m glad you’re here with me.

www.mindbodymedicineforchronicpain.com

Caryn Sherbet, LMSW (they/she) is a trans nonbinary therapist who specializes in OCD, chronic pain, and sexual trauma. Often, they work at the intersection of all three. Caryn talks about how patterns of avoidance tie all three together. They talk about the need to move away from "fixing" and "controlling" in order to heal. They talk about learning to tolerate existentially intolerable phenomena. They talk about making sacrifices in order to be true to yourself and true to your body. And they talk about how healing does not happen easily for everyone. Healing, sometimes, is a long, deep project, especially for people living with a lot of trauma and with a lot of fear. We talk about managing expectations in Pain Reprocessing Therapy.

Caryn highlights the difficulties the trans community faces when it comes to feeling “safe.”

And let me say: we, as a society, need to do better. We need to create the possibility of safety for all people. That includes trans people. On that front, we have a lot of work to do.

This is a great conversation. Join us.

Also, in this episode, Caryn and I discuss various therapies, most of which are referred to by acronyms. So – if you’re interested, or if you’re confused – here’s a list of the therapies we mention:

PRT: Pain Reprocessing Therapy

CBT: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy

DBT: Dialectical Behavior Therapy

IFS: Internal Family Systems Therapy

ERP: Exposure and Response Prevention (treatment for OCD)

ACT: Acceptance and Commitment Therapy

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Find Caryn:

Website: www.carynsherbettherapy.com

Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/caryn-sherbet-new-york-ny/1043122

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Find Sean:

Visit my website: Request a consultation for individual therapy

Click here to: Ask a question on the podcast

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Other Resources from Today’s Episode:

Kristina Armenakis: www.kristinaarmenakis.com

B. F. Skinner and Extinction in Psychology

Triska Psychotherapy: www.triskapsychotherapy.com

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

Don't forget your daily practice :) Healing pain is a journey. Often, it’s a journey with many steps. What steps are you taking? Here are some excellent ideas – tried and true suggestions – for you.

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Find Sean:

Visit my website to: Request a consultation for individual therapy

Click here to: Ask a question on the podcast

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.

Shame is an emotion, not a thought, not a belief. Shame is something to feel. The feeling of shame kicks off negative thoughts and beliefs...but what if you just treated your shame as an emotion? Then you could feel it... and let it move out.

Today, Ellen Ronka teaches us how to train out of chronic shame using the same Pain Reprocessing Therapy techniques we already know. We can feel it rather than fear it. We can feel it without "believing" the story behind it. For example, you don't need to believe the "story" that your knee hurts because there's something structurally wrong with it. We know your knee actually hurts because of psychological conditioning. What if you're feeling shame because your brain is just familiar with that neural network? Not because you "did something wrong"? When you see this truth, then you can let go of attachment to the negative thoughts, allow yourself to feel the feeling of shame, and let the feeling pass through you. This is deep work. Join us to learn how your shame undergirds your pain and symptoms, and to learn how to allow and then release shame.

This is Part 2 of the conversation. I’d recommend you start with Part 1 and then join us here for Part 2.

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Find Ellen:

Chronic to Cured Coaching Program: www.chronictocured.com

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

How to deal with shame? How to heal from chronic pain and conditions? What are the “right” things to do? What if I’m doing the “right” things the “wrong” way? Why is shame so central to chronic pain healing? Today we talk with psychotherapist Ellen Ronka, LCMHC for Part 1 of How to Handle Shame.

We get into: how to feel your emotions in order to heal, your emotions mean something about you and what you need, unlearning emotional processing blueprints from your family of origin, the centrality of shame in chronic pain conditions, and so much more. This is a rich, long conversation–so we’re going to have it in 2 parts. Join us today for part 1. And we’ll do part 2 next week.

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Find Ellen:

Chronic to Cured Coaching Program: www.chronictocured.com

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Find Sean:

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

It’s been a long, long road. Your symptoms have finally led you to mind-body work. We’re here now.

There’s so much to this life–so many things still to learn, so many ways still to grow. But, at least when it comes to chronic pain healing, you’ve reached the end of the line. There’s no more asking “what’s wrong with me?” and “why do I feel this way?” Because now you know. You know the answer. This is it. Allow this to be. Stay. There’s nowhere else to go. Move into the neighborhood. You live here now.

You’ve finally reached the answer.

Join the conversation today cuz we’re talking about how to stay …and how to heal.

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Find Sean:

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mind-body healing.

RuPaul says, “If you can’t love yourself…how in the hell you gonna love somebody else?” Today, we explore this concept in depth. The core message today: if it’s hard for you to love yourself, that is not your fault. I probably repeat that about 10 times in today’s episode. If you need to hear that - 10 times - then you’re like me. And you’re in the right place. Join us.

In this Episode:

🔹 We problematize Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, and I make a case for retiring his theory to the dustbin of psychotherapy. It belongs with penis envy. In the past.

🔹 Attachment is a primary human need. Perhaps it’s THE primary human need.

🔹 Relationships are hard. That is normal.

🔹 If relationships are hard for you, you are normal.

🔹 And, if it’s hard for you to love yourself, that is not your fault.

🔹 Learning to love yourself will make your relationships better.

🔹 But, being loved by others for who you truly are - that will also make your relationship with yourself better. These things go hand-in-hand.

What if your primary attachment figures didn’t appreciate you for who you truly were? Today, we explore relationships, attachment, identity development, relational needs, and we connect it all to chronic pain and to healing.

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TMS Treatment & Support Group Now Enrolling, Starts February 24th, 2026

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Resources Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Books by Dr. Sue Johnson: https://drsuejohnson.com/books/

Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents by Dr. Lindsay Gibson: https://www.lindsaycgibson.com/books.html

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.

When Alexander Rosan became a bodyworker, he intuitively saw a connection between emotions and pain. He wasn’t trained to work with emotions, but he instinctively found his way into helping his clients process their emotions by attuning to and working with their bodies.

In this Episode:

🔹 An explanation of bodywork.

🔹 Thinking past traditional training in order to connect mind and body.

🔹 “There’s something beyond just massaging the body.”

🔹 Alexander’s story about “the first time someone started crying underneath my hands.”

🔹 Alexander helps connect the world of neuroplasticity to the world of working with the body as a massage therapist and bodyworker.

🔹 “There is, ultimately and truly, nothing to be afraid of…as scary as that sounds.”

This is a great conversation. It’s an excellent opening to reflect on how you might want to bring your own physical body deeper into your emotional healing process.

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Find Alexander: www.alexanderrosan.com

(In-Person Bodywork in Portland, OR)

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Resources from Today’s Episode:

Somatic IFS by Susan McConnell

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.

One more thing to discuss! Because, in the last solo episode, I forgot something important. And, while we’re at it, we’re actually gonna talk about two things. Cuz there’s always more to learn about TMS. Join us for a little extra healing information and a little extra fun.

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.

My hometown is under occupation right now. Watching this nightmare unfold is… unreal… but it’s also not necessarily shocking. Today, I talk to my childhood friend Dr. Claire Branigan about the occupation in Minneapolis. Claire is an anthropology professor at Rice University. She and I reflect on the false “safety” of the white supremacist bubble in which we grew up, and we discuss waking up to the truth of the broader cultural dynamics present in Minnesota and in the world beyond. We highlight the idea of questioning your narrative. And, of course, I make the connection to that theme as a core part of healing from chronic pain.

In this Episode:

🔹 “It’s very strange to watch places you know very intimately suddenly being presented as war zones.”

🔹 We examine the narrative of a “cute,” “quaint,” and even “boring” hometown as juxtaposed with the reality. The cute/quaint narrative was never reality. It just felt true for us as children.

🔹 We give some reports about what this is like for people we know who are on the ground experiencing the fear and intimidation first-hand.

🔹 And also, “Some people really want this,” and people are saying, “What did Renée Good expect?”

🔹 We examine the question: What can you do if you’re not directly impacted and you want to be an ally to immigrants and to people who are directly impacted?

🔹 And we discuss how it’s a kind of resistance to live a good life. There’s a difference between “it’s too stressful to engage” and “I’m cognizant of what’s going on, and I’m going to choose to live.” “Don’t let the Trump administration win.” “Stephen Miller does not control my joy.”

🔹 On that note, Claire’s son is turning 1! We have stuff to celebrate, we have life to live.

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If you’re able to give, please consider helping people on the front lines. As you know, it’s bad. People need help. This is a list of organizations and direct individuals who need support.

MPLS MUTUAL AID LINKTREE: https://linktr.ee/mplsmutualaid

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Find Dr. Claire Branigan:

www.clairebranigan.phd

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Find Sean:

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TMS Treatment & Support Group Now Enrolling, Starts February 24th, 2026

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Sean’s Free Email List: Join the List for Free Updates and Advice

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Click Here to Ask a Question on the Podcast

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.

You know you have TMS. So now, what do you do? Great question. This episode revisits the three clear steps that heal chronic pain and chronic symptoms. We deep-dive into all three. Let your brain hear this. Then, you can apply what you learn. Then…you’ll start to feel your body healing.

In this Episode:

🔹 Understanding, internalizing, and believing the correct facts about chronic pain.

🔹 How to think psychologically, not physically.

🔹 Connecting your pain and your symptoms to your emotional life.

🔹 Accepting existential mystery in your healing and releasing the need to “understand” everything.

🔹 Learning how to redirect the “oh no” to “...okay.”

🔹 And, the hardest part: a thorough discussion about patiently attuning to your true self in order to heal your pain.

🔹 There are no bad parts. In today's analysis of "no bad parts," we get into some pretty extreme examples. And if you can develop empathy for a horrifying fascist, you can certainly develop empathy for yourself.

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Resources Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

The Way Out by Alan Gordon and Alon Ziv

Mind Your Body by Nicole Sachs

No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz

The Divided Mind by Dr. John Sarno

Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents by Dr. Lindsay Gibson

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…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow for future episodes, rate, leave a written review, and share it with someone who needs it. Your endorsement helps more people like you find the profound power of mindbody healing.