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23 Sep 2019A Politics of Humility, Forgiveness, and Love (Glenn Loury & John Wood, Jr.)01:00:28
Is polarization a problem to be solved with "water or fire"? ... If Trump wins reelection, will national reconciliation be possible? ... How John's biography prepared him for this work ... Love thy political antagonist as thyself ... Marianne Williamson and the possibility of racial forgiveness ... Martin Luther King's legacy in today's black activist movements ... Glenn: Any movement for justice must be transracial ...

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03 Oct 2019Truth, Justice, and Racial Equality (Edmund Santurri & Glenn Loury)01:30:25
What does it mean to be a black conservative? ... Why Glenn's views on affirmative action have shifted back and forth ... What happens if affirmative action is eliminated? ... Glenn critiques the idea of a "New Jim Crow" ... The case against reparations ... Feeling like the token black conservative ... Could reparations lead to a national spiritual renewal? ... Glenn takes questions from the audience ...

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11 Oct 2019Back and Still Black (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:44:33
Glenn wants to hear more before supporting impeachment ... John: "Does it not bother you that your country is being run by an idiot?" ... Is Trump a truer tribune of the people than Obama? ... Glenn fears violent civil unrest if Trump is ousted ... Abortion and Trump's Supreme Court picks ...

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25 Oct 2019Debating the Case for "Black Optimism" (Glenn Loury & Coleman Hughes)00:58:48
Coleman's new essay, "The Case for Black Optimism" ... Does it make sense to compare blacks and whites in terms of progress? ... Glenn presents the counterargument ... Coleman detests that blacks are viewed as "one massive problem" ... Glenn sees many blacks as being in desperate straits ... The problem with focusing too much on problems ... Coleman's congressional testimony on reparations ...

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08 Nov 2019"It's Hard to Be an Individual" (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:52:56
Buzzwords vs. the power of reason ... College students stay silent instead of saying the wrong thing ... Why cultural appropriation is such a flashpoint ... John: "It's hard to be an individual" ... Cosmopolitanism and fearing the cops ... The sense of belonging that comes from being oppressed ...

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14 Nov 2019The Free Market, Impeachment, and NeverTrumpers (Glenn Loury & Steven Teles)00:46:01
The Niskanen Center's defense of a "free-market welfare state" ... Hidden ways the government obstructs the free market ... Why a wealth tax probably wouldn't work ... Steve's ambivalence about impeachment ... Glenn says the emoluments charges are "penny ante b******t" ... Steve: Trumpism has to be defeated at the ballot box ... The vain search for the "generic Democrat" ... What happens to the NeverTrumpers post-Trump? ...

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20 Nov 2019The Economics of Fighting Climate Change (Glenn Loury & Laurence Kotlikoff)00:42:15
Critiquing William Nordhaus's work on the economics of climate change ... Larry: My plan for carbon taxation is a win-win ... Can elderly voters who don't care about the future be won over? ... What about critics of capitalism itself? ... Accounting for the uncertainties of climate science ... The work of the 2019 Economics Nobel laureates ...

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30 Nov 2019Who Really Pays Taxes? (Glenn Loury & Laurence Kotlikoff)00:52:16
Does the US tax system favor the rich? ... Why spending is more equally distributed than wealth ... How Larry makes his calculations ... How billionaires can avoid paying taxes ... Larry: We should tax consumption instead of income or wealth ... Larry critiques Andrew Yang's universal basic income plan ... Should Trump get credit for a good economy? ...

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06 Dec 2019Revisiting the Trayvon Martin Case (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:54:41
George Zimmerman sues a bunch of people for $100 million ... Rightwing filmmaker Joel Gilbert's The Trayvon Hoax ... Gilbert's past conspiracy theorizing ... An age of fake news and relativism ... What John thinks really happened ... Recent racially charged hoaxes ... The racial narrative and "whose side are you on?" ...

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11 Dec 2019Revisiting the Trayvon Martin Case, Part Two (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:42:21
Glenn and John respond to criticism of their discussion of The Trayvon Hoax ... Why Glenn finds the film credible despite its creator's conspiracy theories ... John: The public didn't get the full story of Zimmerman's 911 call ... The case as a forerunner of larger dynamics in American political culture ... Did Zimmerman have a rational prejudice? ... Glenn and John ain't running away ... What was Trayvon thinking? ...

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19 Dec 2019What Should Be Out of Bounds? (Glenn Loury & Robert Wright)01:17:12
Bob reminisces about the origins of Bloggingheads.tv ... Where The Glenn Show fits into the BhTV ecosystem ... Speech policing, the "n-word," and the uses of ridicule ... What's Trump's executive order on anti-Semitism really about? ... Does the IDW care about protecting speech critical of Israel? ... Bob critiques The Trayvon Hoax ... Bob: Be wary of throwing around the word "hoax" ... Quillette accuses Bob of palling around with tyranny apologists ...

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23 Dec 2019Crime, Justice, and Reform (Glenn Loury & Peter Moskos)00:43:42
Peter explains how stop-and-frisk went too far ... Who or what deserves credit for NYC's massive murder decline? ... Peter: Reducing poverty is not the way to reduce crime ... Are cops reaping the whirlwind? ... The aftermath of Freddie Gray in Baltimore and Laquan McDonald in Chicago ... Criminal justice reform and the potential backlash ...

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04 Jan 2020The New Culture Wars (Glenn Loury & Meghan Daum)01:01:33
What's new about the culture wars? ... Meghan: "White women are the new white men" ... Reacting vs. responding ... Meghan: Gen Xers had the advantage of second-wave feminist childhoods ... Meghan's controversial essay on "toxic femininity" ... The different kinds of power men and women have ... The case for and against pussy hats ...

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13 Jan 2020Critiquing "The Enigma of Clarence Thomas" (Glenn Loury & Scott Gerber)00:56:59
Is impeachment justified? ... Summarizing Corey Robin's new book, The Enigma of Clarence Thomas ... Scott: Robin doesn't understand Thomas's actual constitutional interpretation ... Critiquing Robin's psychological reading of Thomas's childhood ... Thomas's actual views on gender and the family ...

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21 Jan 2020What Does MLK Day Mean Now? (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:03:01
John: The racial conversation has improved over the past decade ... Decrying the "racism" explanation when black people don't succeed in a given field ... Glenn: "You're the weakest sister at the table, and you're gonna place demands?" ... The young black men who jump turnstiles and cross in the middle of the street ... So what does Martin Luther King Day mean now? ... How and why black culture changed so much between 1960 and 1970 ... Do changing sensibilities exonerate Russell Simmons? ...

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31 Jan 2020The Souls of Yellow Folk (Glenn Loury & Wesley Yang)00:58:10
Wesley's new book of essays, The Souls of Yellow Folk ... The meaning of Andrew Yang as an Asian American ... Ivy League admissions, intermarriage, and Harvard's "personality scores" ... Wesley: There's a "false crisis" about race in NYC elite public schools ... Wesley's essay about the Virginia Tech mass shooter ... The dismissed grievances of the Asian-American male ...

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03 Feb 2020Revisiting the 1619 Project (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:54:06
John: The central claim of the NYT's 1619 Project "simply isn't true" ... Glenn offers a defense of the Project's perspective ... What the Constitution's three-fifths clause really meant ... John: "America is an endless rehearsal" ... After Kobe Bryant died, was it bad taste to bring up his rape accusation? ... Glenn praises Khalil Gibran Muhammad's The Condemnation of Blackness ...

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11 Feb 2020Immigration and Race (Glenn Loury, Ernesto Cortés, Jr., and Peter Skerry)01:19:32
Do blacks and Latinos have aligning interests? ... Ernesto: Immigrants have an irrational belief in the American dream ... Debating the benefits of immigration ... Can universal health care and open immigration be reconciled? ... Why Peter called Mexicans the "ambivalent minority" ... Will Latinos socially assimilate? Will blacks be left behind again? ... Revisiting Lincoln's Second Inaugural ... Ernesto: Most Latinos just want to work ...

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20 Feb 2020Looking Back (Glenn Loury & Rajiv Sethi)01:12:16
Glenn's landmark 1977 paper, "A Dynamic Theory of Racial Income Differences" ... Glenn's theory of "relations before transactions" ... Critics accused Glenn of "flirting with the idea of black inferiority" ... What William F. Buckley said that broke Glenn's heart ... Why do Maine and Vermont let prisoners vote, when most states don't? ... Glenn vows to finish his memoir this summer ... The roles that two black academics played in Glenn's early career ...

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29 Feb 2020The Case for Charter Schools (Glenn Loury & Ian Rowe)01:07:21
Ian describes the charter school network he runs ... How teachers are treated in charters vs. in public schools ... Ian rebuts the charge that charters cherrypick their students ... Why Ian's schools are all single-sex ... The political campaign against charters ... Ian's critique of using the 1619 Project as curriculum ... The "Who's your daddy?" truck in the Bronx ... Is the racial achievement gap the wrong problem to focus on? ...

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03 Mar 2020Anti-Semitism, Israel-Palestine, and Bernie (Glenn Loury & Robert Cherry)01:05:46
The recent spike in assaults on ultra-Orthodox Jews in NYC ... Is anti-Semitism or something else the root cause? ... Bob: The demonization of Israeli Jews has filtered down ... Are liberal Jews downplaying black anti-Semitism? ... Bob argues that Palestinians in Israel are doing relatively well ... Glenn: "There ain't gonna be no two-state solution" ... Ex-Leninist Bob makes the case against Bernie ... Would a Jewish president be good for the Jews? ...

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13 Mar 2020Trump vs. COVID-19 (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:48:54
How COVID-19 is affecting Glenn and John’s semester ... The mass psychology of coronavirus-inspired shutdowns ... Glenn: The social justice implications of the virus are legitimate ... Will Trump’s handling of the crisis be his downfall? ... Glenn: “The pussy grabber needs help!” ... Is Trump an effective politician or a hapless dolt? ...

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17 Mar 2020A Corona Contrarian (Glenn Loury & Heather Mac Donald)00:40:23
Heather argues that we are overreacting to the coronavirus ... Heather: "Everyone should be a capitalist in a pandemic" ... Public goods and exponential growth ... Grading the Trump administration's handling of the crisis ... Has the media exaggerated the threat? ... Glenn predicts this will be a major blow to populism ...

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19 Mar 2020The Economics of Coronavirus (Glenn Loury & Laurence Kotlikoff)00:49:31
Why quarantine is not enough ... Larry's proposal for a universal mandatory testing regime ... Glenn pushes back on Larry's plan on economic and libertarian grounds ... Is inflation coming? ... The importance of the "velocity" of money ... Why public health must come before economic health ...

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24 Mar 2020Coronavirus and Inequality (Glenn Loury & Rajiv Sethi)01:05:46
Rajiv: Testing is the key to defeating coronavirus ... How do we know if we're overreacting to the virus? ... Considering credit forbearance ... Rajiv argues for public banking through the Federal Reserve ... Debating universal basic income ... The ethics of public imposition ...

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26 Mar 2020Your Money or Your Life (Glenn Loury & Harold Pollack)01:02:28
Personal finance during a public health emergency ... Harold: No one totally understands the US economy ... Social isolation and emotional support ... Thought experiment: 600K deaths vs. a massive recession ... Looking back at the HIV epidemic ... Does it make sense to compare our situation with South Korea's? ... Will the virus kill identity politics? ... Harold is very pleased that Dems went with the moderate ...

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30 Mar 2020Gimme Shelter (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:53:20
John reports on sheltering in place in NYC ... Race and the coronavirus ... Is calling the disease the "China virus" xenophobic? ... John wants President Cuomo ... Glenn: "You go to the crisis with the president you've got, not the president that you wish you had" ... John maligns and Glenn defends the president ... Do you feel safe? ...

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06 Apr 2020A Better Way (Glenn Loury & Danielle Allen)00:29:47
Applying just war theory to the pandemic ... Danielle's three options: "freeze," "surrender," and "mobilize and transition" ... There's never been a vaccine for a coronavirus ... How Danielle's COVID-19 response working group came together ... Mixing free-market and command-economy strategies ... Trump's "request for proposals" ...

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10 Apr 2020Corona Taboos (Glenn Loury & Wilfred Reilly)01:05:20
Wilfred's new book, Taboo: 10 Facts You Can't Talk About ... The view of corona from Western Kentucky ... Wilfred: A universal shutdown doesn't make sense... ... ...instead we need random serological testing ... Is the pandemic revealing a structural weakness of democracy? ... Examining the racial disparity in infection rates ... Glenn: Experts should be "on tap, not on top" ...

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14 Apr 2020Race and the Virus (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:40:13
John on being at Covid ground zero in Queens ... The many racial disparities the pandemic has made plain ... But after the disparities are acknowledged, now what? ... Differences in life expectancy, health, and diet ... Does the pandemic make the case for universal healthcare? ... Racial discrimination by health care providers ...

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21 Apr 2020Islands of Excellence (Glenn Loury & Robert L. Woodson, Sr.)01:02:51
How Bob joined and eventually split with the civil rights movement ... Critiquing the government bureaucracy of the American welfare state ... Bob: Affirmative action has been exploited by middle-class blacks ... Black achievement during the century after the Civil War ... Glenn asks, "what is to be done?" ... Bob: "I don't have any choice but to be optimistic" ... Glenn: "Black people ought not to be taught to hate our country" ...

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27 Apr 2020The Policy Response to the Pandemic (Glenn Loury, Harold Pollack, and Steven Teles)00:55:23
How would the late Mark Kleiman have viewed the policy response to the pandemic? ... The democratic legitimacy of the administrative state ... Glenn: Policy experts can't determine human values ... Are the economic tradeoffs of shutdown too great? ... Harold: The costs of Covid are vivid in people's lives ... Did Trump unintentionally help tamp down civil unrest? ...

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30 Apr 2020The Pandemic in Prisons (Glenn Loury & Josiah Rich)00:51:41
Jody describes what it's like inside his hospital ... How an outbreak in a prison could overwhelm the local hospital system ... Jody: "Most people don't need to be locked up, and don't need to be locked up for that long" ... What about all the murderers and rapists? ... Why Jody is not a prison abolitionist ... How Covid kills ...

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04 May 2020The Science of the Virus (Glenn Loury & C. Brandon Ogbunu)00:45:21
Brandon explains what a coronavirus is ... Where the virus came from ... Evaluating the "laboratory escape" theory ... The path to an effective vaccine ... Brandon: We have not been alarmist about the pandemic ... Why a forecasting model can be way off but still correct ... Brandon: The federal government has underreacted from the start ... Brandon critiques the surgeon general's messages to African Americans ...

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06 May 2020The 1619 Project's Pulitzer (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:55:42
Nikole Hannah-Jones wins a Pulitzer Prize for the 1619 Project ... Glenn: This is "a desperate struggle for dignity" in the face of black failure ... Self-hatred and patronization ... Glenn: A bubble that I thought would burst hasn't burst ... Biden's black agenda vs. Glenn's black agenda ... John: Black men need jobs ... Race and the picking of fruit ... Glenn: Don't teach children that their future is outside of their hands ...

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11 May 2020The Life and Times of Clarence Thomas (Glenn Loury & Michael Pack)00:56:22
Michael's new documentary, Created Equal: Justice Thomas in His Own Words ... Is some of the criticism of Thomas from the left racist? ... Why isn't he celebrated in the black community? ... Thomas's originalist view of the Constitution ... Thomas's wife Ginni, a conservative activist ... How Thomas's grandfather shaped his life ... The Anita Hill hearings and their legacy ... Why does Thomas rarely speak at oral argument? ...

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18 May 2020Affirmative Action for Americans? (Glenn Loury & Amy Wax)01:07:43
Amy wants to starve the higher ed beast ... Do Americans need affirmative action for graduate school? ... Glenn and Amy criticize undergraduate instruction ... Amy: "There's a certain degree of feminization that is going on as well" ... How should students be graded during the pandemic? ... Amy explains what we should and shouldn't be doing during the pandemic ... The Wuhan lab theory ...

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29 May 2020Cops and Race (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:11:54
The death of George Floyd in Minneapolis ... Is crime a moral failing? ... Glenn: "Black people in poor cities need the cops" ... The Central Park birder incident ... Meditating on the tears of Eddie Glaude ... Glenn decries Biden's racial pandering ... John: The problem is with cops and with guns, not racism ...

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04 Jun 2020A Uniquely Potentially Calamitous Situation (Glenn Loury & Joshua Cohen)00:52:42
Josh: This is a more dangerous moment than any I can remember ... Was George Floyd lynched? ... Glenn views police abuse as a universal problem and fears racialized backlash ... Josh worries about free and fair elections in November ... Glenn: Violence and looting must be denounced ... Glenn and Josh agree that Trump is not up to the task ... The price of order and the cost of chaos ...

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08 Jun 2020Teaching Under Lockdown (Glenn Loury & Michele Kerr)00:41:34
Was the pandemic lockdown overkill? ... How Michele transitioned her high school students to distance learning ... Michele: We changed the rules on our students ... The “herd mentality” opposing herd immunity ... Michele: “Teachers should be getting back to work” ...

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10 Jun 2020The Viruses (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:00:23
John: George Floyd's murder was not an exclusively racial matter ... Glenn: "We're in the grip of hysteria" ... John: Apparently anti-racism trumps even medical science ... What it's like being a black contrarian right now ... Glenn: The real threat to black people is crime ... John argues that fixing problems with the cops has to be the first step ...

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18 Jun 2020Dropping the Mask (Glenn Loury & Coleman Hughes)00:53:24
Coleman's post-collegiate life (with a cameo from Glenn's wife) ... Reopening and the invisible cost of agreeing with Trump ... Thomas Sowell's thoughts on partisanship ... Glenn: Trump is "bumbling his way through" the tradeoffs of reopening ... Masks as a way of life ... Do racial disparities in Covid deaths demonstrate systemic bias? ...

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23 Jun 2020Black Faces, Black Interests (Glenn Loury & Carol M. Swain)01:04:44
How Glenn and Carol first met ... Carol's 1993 book, Black Faces, Black Interests ... Would Stacey Abrams have won if she were pro-life? ... Carol's journey to Christianity ... Carol's prescient book on the new white nationalism ... Carol: "I have a lot of respect for Jared Taylor" ... Carol's harsh critique of identity politics on college campuses ... Are black conservatives winning, losing, or something else? ... Why Carol loves Donald Trump ...

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09 Jul 2020Braver Angels (Glenn Loury & John Wood, Jr.)00:51:29
John explains how the current national crisis came to be ... Is civic discourse dead? ... Glenn: We are sliding into a state where the basic preconditions of society are at question ... Is America going backwards on race? ... Glenn: "I feel like my side is losing, and I think it's a catastrophe" ... Can faith help bind up the nation's wounds? ...

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30 Jun 2020A Life in History (Glenn Loury & David Kaiser)01:07:51
David's memoir, A Life in History ... David: Political history is being ignored in the academy ... Defending the Western model ... Did the Vietnam War spark a turn away from Enlightenment values? ... The 1619 Project and the ideals of the founding ... The lament of the white male ... Why is college so expensive? ... Did the founders actually believe in universal values? ...

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04 Jul 2020The Unraveling (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:50:06
John: White Fragility is "one of the worst books ever written" ... Debating how we should remember Woodrow Wilson ... Glenn: Our story is about more than just domination and oppression ... On being a dissident black academic ... Why John resigned from the board of the National Books Critics Circle ... Should John and Glenn fear defenestration by the mob? ...

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23 Jul 2020The Dark Arts (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:54:23
John on "a truly medieval moment" ... Why Glenn didn't sign the Harper's open letter ... Linguists petition against fellow linguist Steven Pinker ... Is this actually just about the economics of the collapsing media industry? ... Calling someone a racist vs. calling someone a witch ... John's harsh review of White Fragility ... Critiquing an open letter by 300 Princeton professors on anti-racism ...

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31 Jul 2020The IQ Taboo (Glenn Loury & Amy Wax)01:23:30
Debating Charles Murray’s new book, Human Diversity: The Biology of Gender, Race, and Class ... Amy: It is an undeniable fact that there are IQ differences between whites and blacks ... Do group IQ differences have a place in politics? ... Does public opinion about race influence elites? ... Amy: Bohemians belong on the margins of society ... The benefits of a meritocratic society ...

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09 Aug 2020The Politics of School Reopenings (Glenn Loury & Michele Kerr)00:48:54
Why Michele thinks schools shouldn't have closed ... Are teachers’ unions bad for students? ... Glenn: Teachers are almost certainly not a high-risk group ... Is the school reopening fight about health concerns or politics? ... Maintaining student accountability in distance learning ...

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14 Aug 2020The Economics of Covid Management (Glenn Loury & Laurence Kotlikoff)00:44:45
The feasibility of group testing for Covid ... Is Trump responsible for inadequate testing? ... Larry: The government should fund companies developing rapid home testing ... Critiquing the FDA’s approach to testing ... Larry: Rapid home testing could bring the economy back within three weeks ...

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20 Aug 2020Crises in Chicago (Glenn Loury & Richard Epstein)00:51:31
The two crises in Chicago ... Richard: "The quarantines are overdoing it" ... Richard's critique of clinical trials for pharmaceuticals ... The recent looting in Chicago ... A classical liberal approach to fixing housing on the South Side ... Why didn't the Chicago PD stop the looting? ... Richard praises Trump's "fairly solid record of achievement" ... Will vote by mail produce a disaster? ...

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24 Aug 2020Police Defunding and Its Discontents (Glenn Loury & Peter Moskos)00:45:03
Peter: The police aren’t hated, but politicians are listening to the haters ... What is driving rising violent crime rates in NYC? ... The problem of discussing racial disparities in crime and policing ... Contesting Jill Lepore’s account of the history of policing ... Disambiguating police defunding and police reform ...

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29 Aug 2020The Rare and Elusive Conservative Academic (Glenn Loury & Steven Teles)01:27:28
The complex heterogeneity of Black American politics ... Why are there so few conservatives in academia? ... Is there any hope of attracting more of them? ... Glenn proposes the creation of a Conservative Studies program ... How Covid-induced austerity might affect diversity in university hiring ... Would it even be possible to staff a conservative academic institution? ...

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01 Sep 2020The End of Wokeness (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:06:43
John detects a burgeoning pushback against racial wokeness ... The anti-racist “bluff” ... Glenn: Most Americans agree with Trump’s defenses of the police ... Comparing the 1963 March on Washington to its 2020 sequel ... Why doesn’t Trump disavow violence committed in his name? ...

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10 Sep 2020Discrimination at Harvard? (Glenn Loury & Peter Arcidiacono)00:52:50
Peter's controversial research on racial disparities among STEM majors ... Is affirmative action leading to a dumbed down curriculum? ... Peter's work on the lawsuit alleging Harvard discriminates against Asian-American applicants ... Roland Fryer's research on race and lethal police force ... Stories vs. statistics ... Remembering Glenn's late wife, economist Linda Datcher Loury ...

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18 Sep 2020Recalibrating Affirmative Action (Glenn Loury & Peter Arcidiacono)01:03:16
Peter: "Mismatch theory" is not a front for racial prejudice ... The problem of data transparency and affirmative action ... Who gets access to affirmative action data? ... Repairing the “broken trust” of America’s racial history ... Would more data transparency actually stop race-based affirmative action? ... Determining the optimal amount of affirmative action ...

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25 Sep 2020Chronicling the Race (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:10:25
BLM and the looming threat of political violence ... Can social justice movements redefine what counts as “knowledge”? ... Sympathy and objectivity in ethnographic writing ... Remembering Stanley Crouch ... Princeton’s racial justice pickle ... Le Monde takes an interest in Glenn and John ...

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29 Sep 2020Get Educated (Glenn Loury & Ian Rowe)01:01:01
Ian's path from engineering to educational entrepreneurship ... Ian rebuts the "corporate type" charge ... "1776 Unites," an alternative narrative to the 1619 Project ... Glenn presents a conservative case against reparations ... What can be done to help the black family? ... Why are black students suspended more often than white students? ... Ian: Black faith leaders are needed to bridge the divide ...

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05 Oct 2020The Meritocracy Trap (Glenn Loury & Daniel Markovits)00:55:43
Daniel's book, The Meritocracy Trap ... Daniel: Meritocracy props up medical innovation at the expense of health ... Examining meritocracy in economics departments ... Daniel says legal education in Germany is easier and better ... Daniel: Higher education is much too intensive and much too exclusive ... Olympic athletes are far better than they were 70 years ago. Is that a good thing? ... Glenn asks if Daniel's position requires him to repudiate affirmative action ...

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15 Oct 2020Why Does Racial Inequality Persist? (Glenn Loury & Adaner Usmani)01:41:25
Glenn on the persistence of racial inequality ... Adaner on the persistence of racial inequality ... Determinism vs. individual moral judgment ... Is structural racism a real thing? ... Can exhortation change culture? ... Why Glenn prefers universal programs ... Does capitalism reinforce racial inequality? ... Contingent moments in America's racial history ... Glenn and Adaner offer some policy solutions ...

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19 Oct 2020What Killed Michael Brown? (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:06:31
A tribute from an Israeli fan and a mea culpa from John ... The political influence of Ice Cube and Kanye West ... Shelby Steele’s new documentary, What Killed Michael Brown? ... Appeals to American honor vs. appeals to American guilt ... The effects of economic restructuring on Black social mobility ...

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26 Oct 2020Free Speech in Academia (Glenn Loury, Carlos Carvalho, and Richard Lowery)01:15:07
Glenn critiques attempts to make race a part of academic hiring ... "Optics equality" and the denial of group differences ... Improving low-income primary schools ... Topics on which you can't challenge the consensus ... Glenn's letter denouncing his own university's president over BLM ... Can academics "cite inclusively"? ... Will online education disrupt colleges? ... Advice for a nontenured professor with heterodox views ... What should a university administrator do? ... ...

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03 Nov 2020Trump's Democrats (Glenn Loury & Jon Shields)00:52:58
Jon's new book, Trump's Democrats ... Doing ethnography in the Rust Belt, an Italian-American suburb, and Appalachia ... Jon: Trump is a familiar figure to these voters ... How Trump embodies honor culture ... Trump's flouting of the norms of the professional class ... Why this style works better locally than nationally ... Jon: Race is not as important as place ... Will Trump's Democrats defect to Biden? ...

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09 Nov 2020The Creators of "What Killed Michael Brown?" (Glenn Loury, John McWhorter, Eli Steele, and Shelby Steele)01:18:02
Glenn announces a new version of The Glenn Show ... Eli and Shelby's new documentary, What Killed Michael Brown? ... "Why is it so hard to see the truth here?" ... Shelby: Post-'60s liberalism is the culprit ... What changed in black communities between 1950 and 1980? ... White guilt as a drug ... Eli: BLM had an agenda and was waiting for a tragedy to exploit ... Shelby: The solutions lie in old-fashioned values ... A father and son collaboration ...

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16 Nov 2020'Liberties,' a New Journal (Glenn Loury & Leon Wieseltier)01:05:56
Leon's new journal Liberties and the current political climate ... Leon: Art "should not be subjected to a political standard" ... Glenn and Leon disagree on Trump ... Leon, an “unrepentant interventionist,” discusses foreign policy ... What's inside the first edition of Liberties? ... Leon defends the idea of Zionism ... America and Israel: two experiments in moving past anti-Semitism ... Thoughts on America's moment of racial reckoning ...

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27 Nov 2020Calling Out Ibram X. Kendi (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:54:45
Welcome to the Glenn Show 2.0 ... A path to forgiveness for the canceled ... John’s upcoming book and wokeism after Trump ... Why is it so easy to get away with junk sociology today? ... John speaks his mind on Ibram X. Kendi ... The mass delusion of the anti-racism movement ... What is required of public intellectuals? ...

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04 Dec 2020The Dark Matter of Developmental Psychology (Glenn Loury & James Heckman)01:15:32
The political landscape in Chicago in 2020 ... How do you improve a human being? ... What "The Bell Curve" missed about human development ... How teaching and empowering parents positively impacts children ... The taboo of family-focused anti-poverty efforts ... What is the source of implicit bias? ... James: Politicians on both sides cultivate and exploit racial turmoil ...

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11 Dec 2020The Warm Cloak of Victimhood (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:55:12
Coleman Hughes named to Forbes' "30 Under 30" ... The predictable platitudes of John's critics ... The waning of wokeness ... Should Thomas Jefferson have known better? ... What is driving today's race crusaders? ... The denial of Black agency ... Nikole Hannah-Jones and the “1619 Riots” ...

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18 Dec 2020Glenn Loury's Intellectual Origins, Part 1 (Glenn Loury & Daniel Bessner)01:15:30
A working-class undergrad with a job, a wife, and two kids ... Why Glenn was drawn to economics ... How studying economics shaped Glenn's politics ... Anti-Semitism at Harvard and the origins of MIT economics ... Why Glenn believes in meritocracy ... Glenn discusses his influential early work ...

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25 Dec 2020Who's Afraid to Debate Glenn Loury? (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:06:09
Why won't Jones, Kendi, and others come on the Glenn Show? ... The need for more discussions between black intellectuals who disagree ... The dilemma faced by contrarian black intellectuals ... John and Glenn ponder their niche ... What can't be said about race ... Will we see a more honest discourse on race after Trump? ... John explores the current controversy at the Dalton School in NYC ...

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01 Jan 2021Glenn Loury's Intellectual Origins, Part 2 (Glenn Loury & Daniel Bessner)01:12:36
Glenn's rightward shift in the early 80s ... A feeling of alienation from the Black elite ... Glenn and Daniel discuss neoliberalism and the "American empire" ... Glenn's emergence as a public intellectual ... How Glenn earned a unique place in public discourse ... Glenn's hiatus from and return to economic theory ... How Glenn helped coin the term "social capital" ...

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15 Jan 2021Glenn Loury's Intellectual Origins, Part 3 (Glenn Loury & Daniel Bessner)01:24:06
The three books that pushed Glenn away from the right ... A crisis of identity: who is Glenn Loury and what is his project? ... Glenn's left-leaning moderatism and work in the 90s ... The link between Glenn's economic work and his social theory ... The evolution of Glenn's perspective on Obama ... The Iraq War, the 2008 crash, and how "the elites failed us" ... The current and future state of the American university ...

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22 Jan 2021Reckoning with the Capitol Riot (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:56:25
Glenn Show 2.0 and reactions to the storming of the Capitol ... What if it was BLM protesters that stormed the Capitol? ... Glenn: I was wrong about the threat Trump posed to democracy ... The tectonic plates shifting beneath American society and politics ... Glenn and John debate the merits of impeachment ...

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30 Jan 2021What's Driving the Upsurge in Urban Homicides? (Glenn Loury & Robert Cherry)01:04:17
Robert's work on rising homicide rates in U.S cities ... The connection between work, school, and crime ... How some criminal justice reform attempts have failed ... Why the massive upsurge in crime in U.S. cities in 2020? ... The challenge of "engaging the family" in the U.S. ... The surprising data on gender in single-parent homes ... Did the summer 2020 protests lead to the rise in crime? ...

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05 Feb 2021Wokebusters (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:00:00
Monthly Q&A with Glenn and John ... TGS 2.0, new newsletters, and John's new book ... Critiquing the Biden administration's first moves ... The excesses and dangers of critical race theory ... The latest stories of woke hysteria on campus ... The performative outrage of anti-racist crusaders ... Campus wokeism vs. corporate wokeism ...

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12 Feb 2021Wokeism's Postmodern Roots (Glenn Loury & James Lindsay)01:29:11
Tracing wokeism's origins to mid-century postmodernism ... Determining the right historical narrative on race ... Do progressives have a problem confronting their own racism? ... What can and can't be said about the 2020 election ... Can the insurrectionists be defended? ... Biden vs. Trump on critical race theory ... James challenges Glenn's recent mea culpa on Trump ...

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19 Feb 2021The Pitfalls of Dissent (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:58:36
Do Glenn and John over-discuss race and racism? ... The hurdles to hosting debates on TGS ... The guys consider their role in the national discourse on race ... The challenges of being a contrarian ... Confronting in-school violence among Black youth ... The New York Times' "contemptible" treatment of Donald McNeil ...

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26 Feb 2021How to Avert the Apocalypse (Glenn Loury & Robert Wright)01:32:37
Changing the narrative on race in America ... Navigating the increasingly polarized landscape ... Why Glenn takes issue with the 1619 Project ... Bob’s new Apocalypse Aversion Project ... Confronting nationalism and identity politics ... Globalization, privilege, and "meritocratic hubris" ... The evolution of Bloggingheads.tv ...

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05 Mar 2021In Defense of Knowledge (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:54:13
New anti-racist guidelines for teaching math in Oregon ... Defending the ideals of the Enlightenment ... What anti-racists get wrong about knowledge and achievement ... Why class matters more than race for improving education in the U.S. ... The Capitol riot and the threat(s) of political extremism ... Possible new frontiers for the Glenn Show ...

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12 Mar 2021Glenn Loury's Intellectual Origins, Part 4 (Glenn Loury & Daniel Bessner)01:30:11
Patreon Q&A announcement ... Glenn's initial impressions of BLM ... How should racial justice advocates advance their interests? ... The problem of colleges as "spaces of consumption" ... The pros and cons of cancel culture ... Cancel culture as a "weapon of the weak" ... Glenn's feelings about Trump's presidency ...

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19 Mar 2021Racism at Georgetown? (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:15:35
The contentious origins of Glenn and John's relationship ... Cancellations at Georgetown and racial disparities in academic performance ... What is to blame for racial disparities in academic performance? ... The quality-fit tradeoff and the mismatch effect ... Is racism widespread in American universities? ... Cornel West's departure from Harvard ...

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26 Mar 2021John Rawls at 100 (Glenn Loury & Joshua Cohen)01:03:10
Who was moral and political philosopher John Rawls? ... Why Rawls' "A Theory of Justice" is such an important text ... Is taxation an infringement on liberty? ... Understanding the freedom vs. liberty paradox ... Focusing on the poor to improve human well-being ... Accounting for earned success or failure ...

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02 Apr 2021What Happened to Civil Rights? (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:59:31
Life as a university professor during Covid ... What happened to the civil rights movement? ... Glenn and John disagree on voter suppression ... Debating Stacey Abrams’ approach to politics ... The exaggeration of victimhood ... How social media has changed academia ...

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23 Apr 2021The Slippery Slope to Hell (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)01:02:04
Fighting through Covid-19 and the pandemic ... Daunte Wright and how police violence goes beyond race ... The "fake" narrative about Black people and the cops ... The tremendously high stakes of race matters in the U.S. ... America's "badass motherfucker" problem ... Woke hypocrisy as the Chauvin verdict nears ...

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30 Apr 2021The Work: a New Frontier for The Glenn Show (Glenn Loury & Nikita Petrov)01:00:00
The impact of the Glenn Show and new initiatives ... How to reach out to the Glenn Show: thework@glennshow.com ... The current climate: how afraid are people and how afraid should they be? ... The current climate: how afraid are people and how afraid should they be? ... Seeking to engage productively with opinions we may not understand ... Glenn's interactions with his graduate and undergraduate students ...

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07 May 2021Anti-Anti-Racism in U.S. Schools (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:55:08
Critical Race Theory's prevalence in American schools ... What’s at the root of racial disparities in education? ... Destandardizing the standards for success ... The evolution of how we communicate about race ... Kendi and the cops; Bazelon and systemic racism ... ...

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14 May 2021How Mothers are Working to End Street Violence (Glenn Loury & Sylvia Bennett-Stone)00:53:56
The founding of Voices of Black Mothers United ... How the criminal justice system failed Sylvia's daughter ... Sylvia's work: advocacy, community intervention, and positive policing ... What is the role of systems and structures in street violence? ... How Voices of Black Mothers United is branching out ... Sylvia's book, Mind Fields: A Healing Journey to Survive the Murder of a Child ...

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21 May 2021The Etiology of Victimology (Glenn Loury & John McWhorter)00:58:10
John's appearance on "Real Time with Bill Maher" ... Why John's 2000 book Losing the Race remains relevant today ... The "noble victim complex" ... The counterproductivity of victim narratives ... Where do you draw the line in calling out nonsense? ... Trading agency for victim status ... The exciting roster of upcoming TGS guests ...

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28 May 2021Falling into the Fiscal Gap (Glenn Loury & Laurence Kotlikoff)01:02:08
Larry's concerns about the debt-to-GDP ratio ... On the general relativity of fiscal language ... Why would anybody buy U.S. treasury bonds? ... Larry's defense of fiscal hawkishness ... A critique of Biden's COVID relief funding ... How to raise taxes while maintaining incentives to work ... There is no such thing as a corporation ...

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10 Feb 2023John McWhorter & Peter Moskos – The Killing of Tyre Nichols 01:06:38

0:00 The “utter horror show” and incompetent policing of the Tyre Nichols killing

7:52 The relatively peaceful reaction to the killing

15:25 What set off the cops?

21:53 Why Peter thinks police units like SCORPION should not be disbanded

27:25 Should we get rid of qualified immunity?

30:21 Policing and white supremacy

40:45 Peter: We on the left have ceded law and order to the Trumpian right

46:00 Tyre Nichols’s funeral

53:59 John: I disagree with Sharpton, Crump, and Dyson, but they’re sincere

Links and Readings

Video of Memphis police officers beating Tyre Nichols

Al Sharpton’s eulogy for Nichols

Benjamin Crump speaks at Nichols’s funeral

Official trailer for Spike Lee’s film, Bamboozled



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17 Feb 2023Delano Squires – Black, Christian, and Conservative01:06:53

Glenn Loury & Delano Squires (Blaze Media)

0:00 Why Delano is a conservative

7:06 Delano’s critique of Raphael Warnock and the “Afristocracy” 

19:26 Delano: “The designer is the definer” 

27:43 Abortion and black lives

41:44 Are abortion rights necessary to protect women’s rights? 

47:53 Delano: Government is no substitute for fatherhood

53:48 Can we reweave the social fabric?

Links and Readings

Delano’s writing at Blaze Media

The Woodson Center’s 1776 Unites

Black and Married with Kids

Ian Rowe’s book, Agency: The Four Point Plan (F.R.E.E.) for ALL Children to Overcome the Victimhood Narrative and Discover Their Pathway to Power



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24 Feb 2023John McWhorter and Vincent Lloyd – Domination and Anti-Blackness 01:09:48

0:00 Woke religion or woke cult?

8:59 Does suffering confer authority on the sufferer?

12:47 A world without “anti-black domination”

21:27 Is there an alternative to the criminal justice system?

34:42 Domination and the purpose of the university

42:47 How Vincent’s Telluride Association seminar blew up

50:45 The narrowness of the social justice framework

54:14 Glenn and John’s encounters with fans

59:49 Should Black Studies exist?

Recorded February 19, 2023

Links and Readings

Vincent’s latest book, Black Dignity: The Struggle against Domination

Vincent’s Compact essay, “A Black Professor Trapped in Anti-Racist Hell”

John’s NYT piece, “DeSantis May Have Been Right”



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03 Mar 2023Oded Galor – The Journey of Humanity 01:10:42

0:00 Oded's new book, The Journey of Humanity: The Origins of Wealth and Inequality

7:58 How inequality and growth emerged over the course of human history

18:52 Breaking free of a 300,000-year-old stagnation cycle

27:24 Humanity's phase shift into modernity

33:39 Inequality and the formation of institutions

44:18 The deep links between geography and institutions

50:38 Africa, Asia, and the trials of diversity

Recorded January 21, 2023

Links and Readings

Oded’s new book, The Journey of Humanity: The Origins of Wealth and Inequality



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06 Mar 2023John McWhorter – The Private Side of Public Life01:05:40

0:00 John’s awkward run-in at the farmer’s market

5:40 Will people be reading Ibram X. Kendi in 2043?

17:03 Regret, doubt, and going against the tide 

28:12 How Glenn and John negotiate their public profiles

40:50 Did Scott Adams deserve to get canceled? 

52:47 What’s going on beneath the Scott Adams controversy?

Recorded March 5, 2023

Links and Readings

Ibram X. Kendi’s Zora Neale Hurston adaptation, Magnolia Flower

Melissa Harris Perry’s radio show, The Takeaway

Ishmael Reed’s novel, Reckless Eyeballing

Ishmael Reed’s essay collection, Another Day at the Front



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17 Mar 2023Sylvester Gates – Diversifying the Scientific Imagination 00:59:17

My guest this week is the distinguished physicist Sylvester “Jim” Gates. Jim was my colleague at Brown for years (he’s now at the University of Maryland), and we’re both alumni of MIT. Jim has made pathbreaking contributions to areas of physics that laymen like me can barely understand—he’s a deep, deep guy. He’s also got some thoughts on race and diversity in the sciences that give us an opportunity for some friendly debate.

Jim begins by introducing supersymmetry, a subfield in physics he helped to define back in the ‘70s. It’s extremely complex stuff, but he breaks it down. We spend the bulk of our time, though, talking about race in the sciences. Jim stresses the value that diversity plays in an under-recognized aspect of scientific innovation: imagination. In Jim’s view, while tests are important, there are limits to what they can tell us about who is most likely to produce the next big advance in any scientific field, just as there are limits to what tests can tell us about the competency of any given student. He uses himself as an example of a student who was average when he started grad school but managed to transform himself into a cutting-edge researcher. He sees value in giving weight to diversity, and even to continuing affirmative action, but there are limits. He worries, for example, that DEI initiatives classifying basic practices like homework and demanding excellence as “white” are going too far, just as he thinks speakers with unpopular views should be met with debate rather than cancelation.

It’s a pleasure to sit down with a scientist as distinguished as Jim Gates. I think you’ll be seeing more of him on The Glenn Show in the future.

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0:00 What led Jim to the forefront of physics

7:53 Jim explains supersymmetry

11:50 Is there racism in the sciences?

18:12 The role of culture and imagination in the sciences

28:47 The scientific “big bang” in Europe

33:03 How Jim accounts for racial disparities in test scores

49:35 Jim: “Genius” is a verb

54:18 Why Jim worries about DEI and cancelation

Recorded February 6, 2023

Links and Readings

Clarence Williams’s book, Technology and the Dream: Reflections on the Black Experience at MIT, 1941-1999

Jim’s essay, “Equity vs. Excellence: A False Dichotomy in Science and Society”

Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions

Karl Popper, The Logic of Scientific Discovery

Physicist Stephon Alexander’s TGS appearance

Stephon Alexander’s book, The Jazz of Physics: The Secret Link between Music and the Structure of the Universe

Stephon Alexander’s book, Fear of a Black Universe: An Outsider’s Guide to the Future of Physics



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24 Mar 2023John McWhorter – From Equity to Equality 00:56:55

0:00 John’s recent appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher

7:23 The rigors of the lecture circuit

10:29 The difference between equity and equality

22:10 How do we know that African Americans are just as smart as everyone else?

30:59 The new black bourgeoisie

38:33 Standards in the arts are relative. But how relative?

51:15 John sets the record straight on his dancing skills

Recorded March 19, 2022

Links and Readings

John’s most recent appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher

Glenn and John April 14 UATX event in New York

E. Franklin Frazier’s book, Black Bourgeoisie 

Glenn and John’s conversation with pseudonymous orchestra conductor Don Baton

Don Baton’s Substack, The Podium

Glenn and John’s conversation with actor James Beaman

James Beaman’s Substack, The Cornfield

Glenn and John’s conversation with Vincent Lloyd

John’s NYT piece, “The High Art of Musical Theater”

Walter Murphy’s song, “A Fifth of Beethoven”



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31 Mar 2023David Sacks and Spencer Segal – Free Speech and Protest at Stanford Law00:59:36

0:00 The disruption of Judge Kyle Duncan’s speech at Stanford Law School

9:33 Why did people have a problem with Duncan?

13:51 Will the current Supreme Court overturn Obergefell v. Hodges

16:37 The necessity of free inquiry and reasoned discourse

26:44 What it’s like being a FedSoc conservative at Stanford Law

34:30 The fallout from the Duncan protests

41:30 The vulgarity of the insults hurled at Duncan

50:00 The role of conservatives at Stanford

Recorded March 26, 2022

Links and Readings

Video of Stanford Law School Associate Dean Tirien Steinbach responding to Judge Duncan

Stanford Law School Dean Jenny Martinez’s letter about the Duncan event

John Stuart Mill’s book, On Liberty



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30 Mar 2023March Q&A00:10:04
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07 Apr 2023Jonathan Rauch – A Liberal Defense of Free Speech01:12:02

0:00 What’s wrong with cancelation?

13:28 A defense of Charles Murray

21:24 Cancelation and the closet

28:08 Jonathan’s book, The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth

39:35 Jonathan: “The marketplace of ideas” is a necessary but insufficient metaphor

42:51 Is Trump an agent of disinformation?

54:22 What the woke and MAGA crowds have in common

59:41 Why Jonathan is hopeful about the constitution of knowledge

Recorded February 6, 2022

Links and Readings

Jonathan’s latest book, The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth

Jonathan’s book, Kindly Inquisitors: The New Attacks on Free Thought

Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein’s book, The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life

Jeff Gerth’s Four-Party Columbia Journalism Review series on Trump and the press

Stanford’s Internet Observatory



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14 Apr 2023John McWhorter and Ian Rowe – Who Speaks for Black America?01:07:07

0:00 Al Sharpton’s National Action Network still exists, apparently

5:00 MLK’s understanding of America’s contributions to democracy

12:58 Are the “people with three names” grifters or merely limited in their racial vision?

21:07 How do you change the minds of black voters?

30:13 The national black leadership vacuum

36:30 The under-recognized success of the black middle class

41:30 Ian’s got a four-point plan …

47:38 … but what’s the best way to disseminate it? (It’s podcasts.)

51:37 The paradox of Obama and Thomas

1:01:01 How does Glenn know “nobody is coming to save us”?

Recorded April 9, 2023

Links and Readings

Ian’s book, Agency: The Four Point Plan (F.R.E.E.) for ALL Children to Overcome the Victimhood Narrative and Discover Their Pathway to Power

Ian’s charter school network, Vertex Partnership Academies

Al Sharpton’s National Action Network

Pew poll on black political strategy and leadership

AEI’s study, “Black Men: Making It in America” 

Richard Reeves’s book, Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do about It

Thomas Sowell speaking at the 1980 Fairmont Conference

Clarence Thomas’s memoir, My Grandfather’s Son 



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