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| 18 Jan 2024 | 310: The Role of Product Leadership at a Climatetech Company—w/ Patrick Tsao, Head of Product at Nori | 00:46:16 | |
What does it mean to work "in Product", let alone at a company working on climate change? What is the difference between Product and Engineering? And what the hell are they building in there anyways?!In this conversation, Nori cofounder Ross Kenyon is joined by Nori's Head of Product, Patrick Tsao, to discuss Patrick's role in scaling climate action. How much of this work is strategy, how much is building tools, and are we meant to be empirical or aprioristic "first principles" thinkers? What are the risks of each?Patrick emphasizes the struggle of understanding and meeting customers' goals in the constantly evolving #carbonmarket, and when and how to work on education beyond the norm.We aim to be doing more regular Product updates moving forward! Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources | |||
| 19 May 2020 | S2E13: How Koen van Seijen invests in regenerative agriculture | 00:54:01 | |
Koen van Seijen is the host of the Investing in Regenerative Agriculture Podcast, where he talks to pioneers in the regenerative food and agriculture space about putting money to work to regenerate the soil. Today, Koen joins Ross and Christophe to discuss the many different flavors of financing for regenerative agriculture and explain the distinction between investing in regenerative agriculture and what is sometimes called "regenerative financing" which innovates in terms of deal structure and beyond.
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| 07 May 2025 | 347: This Entrepreneur Holds the Record for Two Exits in Carbon Removal. What Does He Think Is Next for CDR?—w/ Jim McDermott, Rusheen Capital Management LLC | 00:49:39 | |
Carbon removal only has a few exits. Today’s guest was involved in two of them, and he’s bringing his lessons. Jim McDermott is the founder and CEO of Rusheen Capital Management, LLC, an investment firm that makes a few early-stage bets and works with companies much more closely than most investors do. He's had a long and storied career in energy and as the founder and CEO of Stamps.com. Jim shares his lessons from exiting 1PointFive and Carbon Engineering to Occidental Petroleum (who also just bought Holocene, another direct air capture company). He lays out his case for alternatives to the classical venture approach, and proposes a new philanthropic model he believes has a chance of filling in carbon removal’s (in)famous demand gap. Listen in to lessons for entrepreneurs during tough times and Jim's predictions for direct air capture and the carbon removal sector as a whole. This Episode's Sponsor Listen to the RCC episode with Lisett Luik from Arbonics Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change | |||
| 22 Jan 2025 | When Heat Makes Us Angry: Free Will, Determinism, and Compatibilism Under Conditions of Stress | 00:10:46 | |
This is a (Spotify) video excerpt from episode 332 with Clayton Aldern, Senior Data Reporter at Grist and author of The Weight of Nature: How a Changing Climate Changes Our Brains. In this video clip, we discuss how we hold people accountable when the heat has a statistically relevant negative impact on decision-making, impulsivity, etc. If we are so embodied as to predictably make worse conditions under stress, what does that mean for a world that will likely encounter more stress as a result of climate change? At what point should we focus less on responsibility, blame, and agency and begin to focus more on background conditions and our physical natures? Or is this even the right question? Tune in now to learn more, and listen to the rest of the show on audio wherever you listen to podcasts. | |||
| 15 Feb 2022 | S3E3: Farms for sale: what's wrong with the financialization of farmland?—w/ Dr. Madeleine Fairbairn | 00:46:48 | |
Farmland has transformed into a financial asset class. So, what happens when land is owned by large financial institutions? How does it impact farmer autonomy? And could it be good for fighting climate change? Dr. Madeleine Fairbairn is Associate Professor of Environmental Studies at UC Santa Cruz and author of Fields of Gold: Financing the Global Land Rush. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Fairbairn joins Ross and guest cohost Dr. Lauren Gifford to discuss the emergence of the institutional farmland investments industry and describe how land has value independent of what it produces. Dr. Fairbairn explores what’s behind the steep decline in the number of farmers over the last century and explains how large-scale farmland ownership could have positive consequences for the environment and negative social consequences at the same time. Listen in for Dr. Fairbairn’s insights into Georgism as a potential policy response and find out what the financialization of farmland means for the small farmer, the economy and the climate. Key Takeaways [1:40] How Fields of Gold explores the emergence of the institutional farmland investments industry [5:24] What Dr. Fairbairn means by ‘the financialization of land’ [9:25] The non-linear progression from communal forms of land ownership to a more and more sophisticated commodification of land [11:51] How land has value independent of what it produces [13:52] What’s behind the decline in the number of farmers over the last century [18:01] The connections between the financialization of farmland and climate (and how what we ask of farmland managers is changing) [21:12] How large-scale farmland ownership could have positive environmental consequences and negative social consequences at the same time [26:18] How landowners in Brazil are tasked with serving society as a whole [30:31] How Dr. Fairbairn thinks about billionaires like Bill Gates acquiring hundreds of thousands of acres of land [34:03] Dr. Fairbairn’s take on a Georgist land value tax as a potential policy response [40:03] The relationship between Georgism and the politics of productivity [42:37] What Dr. Fairbairn is learning about agri-food technology through the UC AFTeR Project she’s working on now Resources Dr. Fairbairn at UC Santa Cruz Fields of Gold: Financing the Global Land Rush by Madeleine Fairbairn ‘Bill Gates: America’s Top Farmland Owner’ in The Land Report Billionaire Wilderness: The Ultra-Wealthy and the Remaking of the American West by Justin Farrell The Mason Gaffney Reader: Essays on Solving the ‘Unsolvable’ by Mason Gaffney | |||
| 10 Aug 2021 | Solutions: The Climate Change Board Game—w/ Samuel Levac-Levey, Founder and Game Designer | 00:30:34 | |
Most efforts to educate the public around climate change are pretty dour and leave people feeling hopeless and helpless. But there are things an individual or small group can do to have a meaningful impact on the climate. And now, there’s a board game that teaches people about the most effective climate solutions and gives them the agency to take action. Samuel Levac-Levey is the Founder and Game Designer behind Solutions, a collaborative board game designed to inspire hope and action on the climate crisis. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Sam joins Ross and guest host Christi Taylor, Marketing Coordinator at Nori, to explain how the book Drawdown informed the creation of the game and describe how it serves as a starting point for real-world climate action. Sam walks us through the mechanics of the game, discussing how it’s being tested both in schools and with a general audience. Listen in to understand how Solutions exposes players to job opportunities in the climate space and learn how you can support Sam’s project and play Solutions yourself by contributing to his Kickstarter campaign before it closes on August 17th. Connect with Nori Join Nori’s book club on Patreon Sign up for Nori’s weekly Newsletter, The Nori Wrap Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Solutions: The Game on Kickstarter Drawdown: The Most Comprehensive Plan Ever Proposed to Reverse Global Warming edited by Paul Hawken | |||
| 21 Mar 2024 | 318: Is the Climate Cooking Craze Missing the Point?—w/ Tamar Adler, author of An Everlasting Meal | 00:53:26 | |
Seems like a new book on climate-friendly cooking is constantly being released. Do they matter, or do they unfairly place the burden of political economy and social change on the lowly consumer? What type of cooking might actually be impactful, and why? Why do we even bother cooking anyway? In today's Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder and Director of Creative & Marketing, Ross Kenyon, is joined by Tamar Adler, a James Beard awardee and author of several books, including An Everlasting Meal: Cooking with Economy and Grace, The Everlasting Meal Cookbook: Leftovers A-Z, and Something Old, Something New: Classic Recipes Revised. Tamar shares her unique approach to cooking which emphasizes the beauty of the endless transformation of ingredients, utilizing and elevating leftovers, and making food an enduring lifestyle rather than a collection of discrete meals. This focus on transformation, leftovers, and creatively utilizing so many of the parts we often throw away, has an obvious climate angle. But Tamar isn't convinced that's the best reason to pursue her way of cooking, and in fact, doing it for political purposes may make it hard to sustain for the same reasons that diets are hard to sustain: if it isn't joyful, it's a burden. And if it's a burden, it is so much harder to sustain. Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy of An Everlasting Meal, and subscribe to Tamar's new Substack, The Kitchen Shrink, where you can ask her all of the cooking questions you've kept locked in your root cellar. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources An Everlasting Meal: Cooking with Economy and Grace The Everlasting Meal Cookbook: Leftovers A-Z Something Old, Something New: Classic Recipes Revised The Supper of the Lamb: A Culinary Reflection by Robert Farrar Capon | |||
| 13 Jun 2024 | 328: Building a Biochar Startup on a Podcast: Grounded Takes Over Reversing Climate Change—w/ Tom Previte, founder of Restord & host of Grounded | 00:42:27 | |
The Grounded podcast takes over Reversing Climate Change! Tom Previte of The Carbon Removal Show, founded a new biochar company in the United Kingdom called Restord. And like any good podcaster, he decided to make a show about it! Grounded: A Climate Startup Journey, just wrapped its five-episode first season documenting Tom's attempts to start a new biochar company. He walks listeners through so many of the basic questions of starting a business, and specifically a business in a new category like carbon removal. What standard should one try to work within? Which parts of the life-cycle assessment matter? Who actually wants this product?! What's especially novel about this episode is that Tom and his producer Ben Weaver-Hincks produced it in the style of Grounded, with voiceover segments and various other effects! Tom and Ross talk about how to make podcasts about carbon removal interesting, how various design decisions impact quality and frequency of publishing, and what we can do to get more people into CDR and climate action through creative media work. Resources | |||
| 22 Mar 2022 | S3E8: Kelp: Foraged, Farmed, and Delicious!—with Matt Kern, Cofounder of Barnacle Foods | 00:45:22 | |
*Use discount code NORI for 20% off your online order at https://www.barnaclefoods.com/. Note: this is not sponsored content. We just dig Barnacle Foods!* Kelp could be an extraordinary tool for long-term carbon sequestration. It also happens to be delicious. And that’s why Matt Kern is on a mission to promote kelp farming in his home state of Alaska and replace some of the more carbon-intensive foods in our diet with seaweed. Matt Kern is the Cofounder of Barnacle Foods, a food manufacturing business based in Juneau that uses Alaskan kelp as its principal ingredient. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Matt joins Ross to discuss how his team sources kelp in a sustainable way and describe what differentiates foraged food from farmed. Matt explores why seaweed is not more popular in the US and explains what Barnacle Foods is doing to introduce consumers to the savory, rich flavors of bull kelp. Listen in to understand what makes kelp a fast, efficient tool for carbon sequestration and find out where you can go to try Barnacle Foods’ hot sauce, seasonings, pickles, and other provisions. Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change Follow the Reversing Climate Change podcast on LinkedIn Barnacle Foods [Discount Code NORI] | |||
| 08 Feb 2022 | S3E2: A Brief History of Ethereum and web3—w/ Laura Shin, author of The Cryptopians | 00:59:52 | |
As listeners of Nori podcasts, you might know that we use cryptocurrency in the form of Nori tokens which may become a market-driven price for carbon removal. You also might know we issue non-fungible tokens, otherwise known as NFTs, when buyers purchase those removals. But you may not know the history of the blockchain we run on or how the system works. So, where can you go to learn Ethereum 101? Laura Shin is a crypto journalist and host of the Unchained Podcast. A former senior editor at Forbes, Laura was the first mainstream reporter to cover the blockchain full-time. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Laura joins Ross to discuss her new book, The Cryptopians: Idealism, Greed, Lies and the Making of the First Big Cryptocurrency Craze, a history of Ethereum and the ICO mania of 2017. Laura explains why Ethereum quickly became the second most important cryptocurrency, describing how it was used to raise billions of dollars for decentralized apps and what happened when the DAO to fund slock.it was hacked. Listen in for Laura's insight around why the crypto bubble burst in early 2018, what trends have occurred since then, and why Laura believes that DAOs are the next big thing in crypto. Key Takeaways [1:00] How Laura’s book focuses on the story of the ICO craze [2:02] What it’s like to write about recent history and why Laura was inspired to create a record of what happened in crypto in 2017 and 2018 [6:10] The rigorous fact-checking process Laura went through for The Cryptopians [8:46] Why Ethereum quickly became the second most important cryptocurrency [10:44] How the Ethereum blockchain serves as an open design space where developers can build decentralized applications [18:03] Examples of the fastest and largest fundraising campaigns for apps through ICOs on Ethereum [18:39] How the DAO to fund slock.it was hacked for $75M [27:56] The ‘code is law’ debate that occurred in the aftermath of the DAO crisis [30:00] The cultural differences between the Bitcoin and Ethereum chains [31:08] What behaviors investors had to learn to participate in the ICO craze and why crypto founders were able to raise billions of dollars for their projects [35:41] How ICOs compare to VC funding [36:17] How the 2017 SEC report classifying DAO tokens as securities informed the burst of the crypto bubble in early 2018 [37:59] Why crypto prices dropped early in the pandemic and what’s happened since then [42:48] Laura’s explanation of decentralized finance or DeFi and non-fungible tokens or NFTs [52:16] How DAOs work to organize people in a democratic way [55:02] Why Laura believes DAOs are the next big thing in crypto Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources ‘The Inside Story of Mt. Gox, Bitcoin’s $460M Disaster’ in WIRED | |||
| 14 Apr 2020 | S2E8: Commoditizing Forest Carbon and Its Discontents—w/ Dr. Lauren Gifford | 00:47:39 | |
Dr. Lauren Gifford is a critical geographer exploring the intersections of global climate policy, conservation, markets, and justice. She is also the host of Carbon Social Club and the author of a recent paper entitled “‘You Can’t Value What You Can’t Measure’: A Critical Look at Forest Carbon Accounting.” On this episode, we dig into avoided deforestation credits, REDD/REDD+, and the dynamics at play when carbon is commoditized in forestry and in general.
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| 04 Apr 2024 | 320: Why We Die: Living Longer's Impact on Climate Change—w/ Dr. Venki Ramakrishnan, Nobel Laureate and author of Why We Die | 00:54:06 | |
Why does death exist? Does getting older always mean getting wiser? Should we look to experience or youth for breakthroughs? In today's episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon is joined by Dr. Venki Ramakrishnan, a 2009 Nobel Laureate in chemistry and author of the new book, Why We Die: The New Science of Aging and the Quest for Immortality. Despite growing lifespans, it isn't clear that we have become less avaricious or kinder as a species, at least to the extent that may be desired. Would that change if we had radically longer lives? Is that even likely at this point? Venki challenges much of the discourse around anti-aging, immortality, trends made fun of in Silicon Valley like blood boys, consciousness uploads, and much else. And of course, they discuss if and how this will impact the world's attempts to grapple with climate change. Resources Why We Die: The New Science of Aging and the Quest for Immortality Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram | |||
| 30 Nov 2023 | S3E63: Radical Honesty & Alan Watts w/ Ed Begley, Jr.—a Hollywood climate veteran and author of To the Temple of Tranquility...And Step On It! | 00:28:19 | |
"I won't be able to live with the realization that I could have done more and I didn't." In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, host Ross Kenyon engages in a candid conversation with Ed Begley, Jr., a seasoned environmental activist and Hollywood actor. Unpacking his Hollywood journey and introducing his memoir, To the Temple of Tranquility and Step on It!, Ed provides a humorous yet insightful look into his life and passion for the environment. Ed's unique perspective on climate change, shaped by his experiences with addiction and an intense pursuit of the low-carbon lifestyle, becomes a focal point as he explores the healing power of honesty, both personally and globally. What is the role of personal action? Find out how Ed has learned over the years that a 'tripod approach' is critical to moving the needle on actionable change. What should the balance be between mindfulness and standing still vs. anger and activism? Balancing seriousness with a touch of humor, Ed and Ross discuss the role of laughter in climate change activism. Tune in to glimpse the joy of living a low carbon life from the Zelig/Forrest Gump of Hollywood. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources To the Temple of Tranquility...And Step On It!: A Memoir by Ed Begley, Jr. This Is It: and Other Essays on Zen and the Spiritual Experience by Alan Watts The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are by Alan Watts Matt Stone & Trey Parker’s animated lectures of Alan Watts Begley’s Best non-toxic products Act On DemandWater Heating | |||
| 07 Mar 2024 | 317: Will Space Settlements Save Us from Climate Calamity?—w/ Zach & Kelly Weinersmith, authors of A City on Mars | 00:53:36 | |
Off-world settlements are sometimes proposed as an insurance policy for Earthlings. Or as an escape for the super-rich. Is it actually either of those things? How should we be considering humanity's relationship to the cosmos and off-world civilization? And is the Overview Effect worth a damn? On today's episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori carbon removal marketplace Cofounder Ross Kenyon is joined by Zach Weinersmith and Dr. Kelly Weinersmith, science educators and authors all. Zach is also the person behind the long-running internet comic SMBC (Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal). They are the authors of the new book, A City on Mars: Can We Settle Space, Should We Settle Space, and Have We Really Thought This Through? Zach and Kelly are both sympathetic to space exploration, being avowed geeks of the subject matter. And yet, the further they dug into basically every facet of life off-world, the less likely it seems our species is ready for the challenges. Whether it be the ease of hurling celestial objects back at Earth, the collapsing bone density of space denizens, the uncertainty of reproduction in low-gravity environments and therefore the necessity of experimenting without consent upon children, the cost, the geopolitics, the near-term impossibility of independence from Earth, and an entire book's worth of other concerns, it just doesn't seem like becoming a trans-Earth civilization is the solution or problem that its supporters or critics, respectively, have believed it is. These are all worthy areas of research. Tune in to learn more and why Zach & Kelly are still exuberant space nerds, and how to keep space in mind with regard to climate change. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources Soonish: Ten Emerging Technologies That'll Improve and/or Ruin Everything David Grinspoon's Earth in Human Hands | |||
| 25 May 2023 | S3E42: Carbon removal funding and dealflow in the XPRIZE/Circular Carbon Network report—w/ Nikki Batchelor & Ongeleigh Underwood | 00:43:32 | |
In this episode, Ross and Siobhan are joined by Ongeleigh Underwood and Nikki Batchelor to delve into the newly released report from the Circular Carbon Network, an initiative of XPRIZE. The report provides valuable insights into the state of the Circular Carbon Market, addressing crucial questions such as who is building Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) projects and who is funding them. The conversation explores the role of XPRIZE in fostering market growth and collaboration, and examines how companies have evolved since the last carbon-focused XPRIZE, which is when the report started gathering data. Ongeleigh and Nikki shed light on the partnerships formed by companies to complete the carbon removal process and discuss whether Direct Air Capture (DAC) is having a moment. Listeners gain valuable insights into the current state of the market, funding trends, technological advancements, and the role played by XPRIZE in driving innovation. If you haven’t yet, read the full report here! Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources | |||
| 31 Dec 2019 | 107: A dedicated introduction to communitarianism—w/ Jeffrey Howard of Erraticus | 01:06:04 | |
Jeffrey Howard is the Founder and Editor-in-Chief at Erraticus, an online publication focused on human flourishing. On this episode, Jeffrey joins Alexsandra and Ross to discuss the ideas in Deneen’s book and compare how communitarians and liberals see the world.
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| 29 Sep 2020 | S2E32: Chasing a Job with Purpose (in carbon removal)—w/ Heidi Lim, Chief of Staff at Opus 12 | 00:52:32 | |
How are you spending your time? Is it aligned with what you genuinely care about? In 2018, Heidi Lim quit her role in enterprise software to solve climate change full-time. What steps did she take to identify a new, purpose-driven path and then land a role in carbon removal? Heidi is the Chief of Staff at Opus 12, a company working to recycle CO2 into cost-competitive chemicals and fuels, and the author of two popular Medium articles, ‘We Need to Talk About Carbon Removal’ and ‘Chasing a Job with Purpose’. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Heidi joins Ross to walk us through her process for finding meaningful work, explaining what inspired her to pursue a role in the carbon removal space. Heidi shares her strategies for figuring out what kind of purposeful work you want to pursue, challenging us to reach out to people on paths we’re interested in and embed ourselves in communities with likeminded individuals. Listen in for Heidi’s insight on turning content creation into career opportunities and learn how to plant the seeds that will lead to your dream role. Resources: ‘Chasing a Job with Purpose’ by Heidi Lim ‘We Need to Talk About Carbon Removal’ by Heidi Lim After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103 Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus Episode | |||
| 13 Apr 2021 | S2E59: Is endless growth Crazy Town?—w/ Dr. Jason Bradford of the Post Carbon Institute | 01:12:04 | |
Empires rise and fall. And while we understand these cycles conceptually, there’s a bizarre notion that we are somehow immune. That we can continue to evolve toward greater ease and material abundance generation after generation. That our potential for growth is somehow unlimited. But natural resources are finite. So, what happens when we run out? Dr. Jason Bradford is the Cofounder of Farmland LP and Cohost of Crazy Town, a podcast produced by the Post Carbon Institute that explores “climate change, overshoot, and runaway capitalism”. He is also the author of The Future Is Rural: Food System Adaptations to the Great Simplification. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Bradford joins Ross to explain what differentiates ecological economics from other schools of thought and why some resources are simply too valuable to price. Dr. Bradford shares his prediction regarding a great simplification of civilization, describing his vision of a future where we might still enjoy modern conveniences but at a very different scale. Listen in to understand why we he thinks we can’t ‘artificial ecosystem’ our way on to other planets, why industrial carbon capture is a bad idea, and how we might build a lower-complexity society that is sustainable for the long term. Connect with Ross Join Nori's book club on Patreon Email podcast@nori.com Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources The Future Is Rural: Food System Adaptations to the Great Simplification by Jason Bradford Tom Murphy’s Do the Math Blog on Economic Growth Paul Kingsnorth on Reversing Climate Change S2EP53 Ted Nordhaus on Reversing Climate Change EP100 | |||
| 09 Jun 2020 | S2E16: Can we cure concrete's emissions problem?—w/ Rob Niven of CarbonCure | 00:53:20 | |
Concrete is an incredibly useful and highly resilient building material. And with population growth and urbanization, we are on pace to double everything we’ve ever built in the next 40 years. At the same time, concrete production accounts for as much as 8% of global emissions. So, how can we continue to reap the benefits of concrete in a way that complies with our climate goals? Robert Niven is the Founder and CEO of CarbonCure, a company that recycles waste carbon dioxide to make stronger and greener concrete. They are also one of the four companies chosen by Stripe for its first negative emissions purchases. Today, Rob joins Ross and Christophe to explain how concrete is traditionally produced and what CarbonCure does differently to permanently mineralize carbon in concrete, both improving its quality and reducing its carbon footprint. Rob weighs in on embodied carbon, sharing the benefits of CarbonCure’s solution in terms of scalability and cost, and discusses the potential for his process to eventually use direct air capture as a source of CO2. Listen in as Rob introduces us to his audacious goal of reducing emissions by 500 megatons per year and learn how we can accelerate the change with procurement policy and carbon offsets. Resources Stripe’s Negative Emissions Commitment Stripe’s First Negative Emissions Purchases CarbonCure’s Cake Analogy Video Bill Gates’ Resources on Climate & Energy Hawaii’s Concrete Procurement Policy | |||
| 07 Dec 2023 | S3E64: Disease and Health Risks of a Changing Climate—w/ Zoya Teirstein, staff writer at Grist | 00:59:09 | |
Forget merely about melting polar ice caps—expansion of deadly diseases is possibly the true Pandora’s Box that climate change is rapidly opening. In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, host Ross Kenyon is rejoined by Zoya Teirstein, staff writer at Grist, to discuss the intricate and chilling intersection of climate change and disease. The way Zoya puts it, climate change is taking the Earth and shaking it like a snowglobe: pathogens are meeting up in new configurations and wreaking havoc. She covers these proliferating diseases and their connection to climate change in her timely beat at Grist. Learn how bacteria is traveling up the coast due to warming temperatures - accessing geographies where doctors are not familiar and not prepared to deal with the resulting, often fatal, illnesses. Beyond the rising temperatures creating breeding grounds for deadly mosquitoes, and disrupted ecosystems with unpredictable consequences, the episode explores the challenging discussions around managed retreat and adaptation. While the threat of mass death from heat waves exceeds critical thresholds, the conversation also unveils rays of hope—community resilience, the potential for preventable deaths through early action, and the ultimate cure lying in reversing climate change. This critical wake-up call and call to action underscore the urgency of addressing the disease dilemmas caused by climate change. Share, discuss, and unite in the fight for a healthier planet. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources The New York Times article on oyster-related deaths Wet Bulb Temperatures, National Weather Service Zoya Teirstein’s previous Reversing Climate Change episode | |||
| 01 Dec 2020 | S2E41: Climeworks & European carbon removal—w/ Christoph Beuttler, CDR Manager at Climeworks | 00:50:58 | |
For years now, we have debated the potential moral hazard of carbon removal, the fear being that we will abandon emissions reductions for the quick fix of carbon capture. But the science is clear: we simply can’t achieve our climate goals with mitigation alone. So, how do we design policy that works toward net zero using a binding emissions reduction pathway AND a strategy for scaling up carbon removal? Christoph Beuttler is the CDR Manager at Climeworks, the global leader in direct air capture technology. He also serves as the Deputy CEO of The Risk Dialogue Foundation and Founding Member of the Board for the Negative Emissions Platform. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Christoph joins Ross to discuss Climeworks’ modular approach to direct air capture, describing how they use solid sorbents to capture carbon dioxide and how that CO2 is either stored permanently or used to replace fossil inputs. Christoph shares his understanding of carbon removal regulations in Europe, explaining how EU businesses interact with policy and why companies are driving voluntary carbon removal markets. Listen in for insight around the future of the carbon removal sector as a whole and learn how you can help Climeworks realize its audacious goal to achieve gigaton scale in the next two decades! Connect with Nori Resources Will Direct Air Capture Be Centralized or Distributed? on Carbon Removal Newsroom DOE Funding Carbon Removal Projects on Carbon Removal Newsroom Klaus Lackner’s Moisture Swing Sorbent California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard 45Q Credit for Carbon Oxide Sequestration ‘Europe’s Climate Goal: Revolution’ in Politico | |||
| 21 Mar 2025 | The Keynesian Beauty Contest: Product-Market Fit in Climatetech & CDR | 00:13:33 | |
Nearly a decade ago, I was introduced to the concept of the Keynesian Beauty Contest. It is one of those concepts that I keep coming back to time and time again. I recently participated in a two-month Product-Market Fit workshop led by Peter Nocchiero of Alternate Future and Koray Parmaks of Carbon Zero Capital. So I've been living and breathing PMF. Here is a short monologue bonus video episode where I talk about the Product-Market Fit issues of climatetech and carbon removal, a now-outdated reference to how TSLA bears kept getting crushed, and relate them to my experiences as a founder of the Nori carbon removal marketplace. Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change The Keynesian Beauty Contest on Wikipedia | |||
| 13 Nov 2018 | 47: David Grinspoon, Astrobiologist | 00:46:22 | |
Like it or not, humans have become the dominant agent of change on the planet, and as we proceed further into the Anthropocene period, we have a responsibility to accept responsibility and find a way to gracefully integrate our presence. But what if we are not the only ones who have experienced this phenomenon? What if the process of inadvertent planetary change is universal? What if the climate challenges we face are a natural part of planetary evolution?
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| 24 Jun 2021 | Why CEOs should support climatetech startups—w/ Nicole Systrom, Sutro Energy Group | 00:22:26 | |
For large, established companies to be sustainable long term, they need to consider how a changing climate will impact what they do. CEOs have got to ask how their businesses can be resilient in the face of climate change and what they can do to help mitigate it. Nicole Systrom is the Founder of Sutro Energy Group, a consultancy working to scale high-impact climate solutions. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nicole joins guest host Alexsandra Guerra to discuss her recent World Economic Forum article, ‘3 Ways CEOs Can Tackle Climate Change and Build a Net-Zero Economy.’ She explains why large, established companies should lend their political capital to climate tech startups and makes the case that every business should make net-zero a part of their business strategy. Listen in for Nicole’s insight on giving innovators a voice in policy creation and learn how large corporations, legislators and climate tech startups can work together to build a net-zero economy. Connect with Nori Join Nori’s book club on Patreon Sign up for Nori’s weekly Newsletter, The Nori Wrap Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Email podcast@nori.com Resources ‘3 Ways CEOs Can Tackle Climate Change and Build a Net-Zero Economy’ by Nicole Systrom | |||
| 08 Jun 2023 | S3E44: Is it time for Second-Generation Direct Air Capture? —w/ Sampo Tukiainen of C-Fix | 00:55:27 | |
What does a utopian second-generation Direct Air Capture (DAC) system look like, and how does it differ from what we have now? In this engaging episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ross and Siobhan have a very frank and honest discussion with Sampo Tukiainen, a farmer, apiarist, meditator, rifleman and the CEO of C-Fix, a second-generation #directaircapture company that wants to do it all. After a brief intro to #DAC, they discuss the energy consumption of current facilities, and how second-generation technology offers potential energy savings compared to the energy-intensive first-generation methods. Would DAC with co-benefits be unstoppable? Probably. Sampo imagines a DAC facility that also addresses water scarcity, provides agricultural resources, and stores carbon dioxide onsite. Learn how Sampo balances his CDR career with his passion for farming, riflery, meditation and family. Hear his frank thoughts on the challenges of building a CDR company when there is conflict. By the end of the episode, listeners gain a deeper understanding of the possibilities offered by second-generation DAC and the importance of incorporating co-benefits into the system. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources | |||
| 24 May 2022 | S3E15: Will NFTs Go Carbon-Negative?—w/ Alexander Salnikov, cofounder of Rarible | 00:34:01 | |
Many of the artists and creators who mint nonfungible tokens (NFTs) are concerned about the environmental impact of the blockchain. But what if they could pair carbon removal with any given NFT to make it carbon-negative? Alexander Salnikov is Cofounder and Chief Strategy Officer at Rarible: a multichain, community-centric NFT marketplace. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Alexander joins Ross and cohost Alexsandra Guerra, Nori’s Director of Corporate Development, to discuss the partnership between Nori and Rarible, describing how it affords Rarible users the opportunity to address their carbon footprint. Alexander explains how NFTs function as an effective way to store assets on the blockchain, exploring the many different use cases for NFTs, and how having access to a community is attracting new users to the space. Listen in for Alexander’s insight around the future of NFTs and learn how blockchain technology might be used to make all our systems more transparent, faster, and more efficient. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Rarible’s Partnership with Nori Aspen Ideas Climate Conference Retina Ghost: creator of the Nori Proof-of-Attendance NFTs from the Miami event Nori Token Pre-Launch Carnival Recap Jesse Smith on Reversing Climate Change S3EP12 Ross’s Nori Logo Graveyard NFT | |||
| 25 Mar 2025 | 341: The War Below: Critical Minerals, YIMBY for Mining, & the Trade War—w/ Ernest Scheyder, author & journalist | 00:26:38 | |
The clean energy transition sure needs a heck of a lot of mining. What do we do when there are environmental or spiritual costs to getting the materials we need for EVs and batteries? Ernest Scheyder is a Reuters reporter covering critical minerals, and the author of The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives. His reporting strives to let audiences draw their own conclusions about where the line should be on environmental extraction, which is a rarer approach than maybe meets the eye. Tune in to also learn where the political battles of the second Trump Administration over critical minerals in Ukraine and clean energy politics at home may lead, and what we should keep our eyes on in the future. Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives | |||
| 03 Aug 2021 | S2E74: Sanitation and EJ concerns grow with climate change—w/ Catherine Coleman Flowers, MacArthur Genius | 00:38:49 | |
Do you take having a working sanitation system for granted? What if you didn’t have access to a public wastewater treatment plant? What if you lived with sewage running back into your home? And what if your failing septic system made YOU a criminal? MacArthur Fellow Catherine Coleman Flowers is the founder of The Center for Rural Enterprise and Environmental Justice (CREEJ) and author of Waste: One Woman’s Fight Against America’s Dirty Secret. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Catherine joins Ross to discuss the neglect of water and wastewater infrastructure in rural America, explaining why septic systems are failing and how that impacts public health. Catherine offers insight on the disparities in access to sanitation for poor rural communities and people of color, describing how corrupt government officials and bad policy can contribute to the inequity. Listen in for Catherine’s advice on collaborating with people who don’t necessarily share your values and find out what CREEJ is doing to design a solution that will allow people to treat wastewater affordably—wherever they are. Connect with Nori Join Nori’s book club on Patreon Sign up for Nori’s weekly Newsletter, The Nori Wrap Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources The Center for Rural Enterprise and Environmental Justice Waste: One Woman’s Fight Against America’s Dirty Secret by Catherine Coleman Flowers CREEJ & The Guardian’s Sanitation Self-Report Form American Society of Civil Engineering Report Card for America’s Infrastructure President Biden’s Climate Task Force | |||
| 02 Apr 2024 | 319: How Nori Rebranded: A Case Study—w/ Heidi Sloane, Nori's Senior Marketing Manager | 00:46:42 | |
How should a climatetech company think about its brand? What if it's B2B? What if it needs to be both trustworthy and idiosyncratic at the same time?! In today's episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nori Cofounder, Ross Kenyon, is joined by his colleague, Heidi Sloane, Nori's Senior Marketing Manager. Heidi led Nori's recent rebrand, which took it from a more playful B2C feel to something more sturdy and B2B. We used the agency Odi to help us with it. Great job, Odi! Heidi explains how a brand can retain its personality and uniqueness while also communicating that it is serious about what it does and can be trusted. Just because one can sometimes act like a clown, doesn't mean one needs to dress like one. If you don't believe me, ask Leslie Nielson. They also discuss how to lead stakeholder engagement in a way that minimizes conflict or typical committee dysfunction and make sure feedback is heard and synthesized without fetishizing consensus. Resources Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram | |||
| 01 Sep 2020 | S2E28: How many jobs will a direct air capture industry create?—w/ John Larsen of Rhodium Group | 00:41:17 | |
Direct air capture or DAC is one of the many strategies we need to employ to achieve the goal of net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. So, how do we scale up the DAC industry to capture the hundreds of millions of tons of CO2 we need to remove from the atmosphere? And what would that kind of growth mean in terms of business opportunities and job creation? John Larsen is a Director at Rhodium Group, an independent research firm that analyzes global disruptive trends. He leads the firm’s US power sector and energy systems research, specializing in the analysis of clean energy policy and market trends. Today, John joins Ross, Christophe, and Aldyen to discuss his team’s most recent report and associated webinar, Capturing New Jobs and New Business: Growth Opportunities from Direct Air Capture Scale-Up. John outlines the policy recommendations he suggests to ramp up the construction of DAC plants, offering insight around potential government subsidies for decarbonization and sharing what policy solutions work (and which ones don’t). Listen in as John explores the clean tech innovations he finds interesting and introduces us to the most promising commercialization pathways for reaching net-zero emissions by 2050! Resources: Capturing New Jobs and New Business: Growth Opportunities from Direct Air Capture Scale-Up Capturing Leadership: Policies for the US to Advance Direct Air Capture Technology 45Q Tax Credit for Carbon Sequestration California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard The DOD’s Plan to Produce Jet Fuel from Seawater on Aircraft Carriers Klaus Lackner at Arizona State University Email podcast@nori.com | |||
| 04 Mar 2025 | 338: Carbon Security & the Geopolitics of Carbon Removal—w/ Sarah Godek | 00:50:34 | |
What is geopolitics, and has it returned? Did it ever really leave? And how will this affect the future prospects of carbon removal? Today's guest is Sarah Godek, a Washington DC-based international relations researcher. She and Grant Faber co-wrote an article on Carbon-Based Commentary called, "Carbon security and the geopolitics of carbon removal". We discuss the tension between strategic liberalism and realism, how the world is changing under the second Trump Administration, as well as if and how the Great Game is currently being played and what implications that has for climate change and CDR. N.B. Regarding the point about Eastern Europe in the introduction, much of my reading on the region has highlighted its former status as a bustling and fervent cultural mixing place. I think I was a bit too subtle in pointing to this understanding. See: A History of Eastern Europe from The Great Courses, or Shtetl by Eva Hoffman. Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change "Carbon security and the geopolitics of carbon removal" Graham Allison's Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap? Robert Axelrod's The Evolution of Cooperation John Pomfret's The Beautiful Country and the Middle Kingdom: America and China, 1776 to the Present Go watch In the Loop, Veep, and The Death of Stalin. | |||
| 14 Oct 2022 | How to Link Carbon Removal to Travel—w/ Christina Beckmann of Tomorrow's Air | 00:48:28 | |
A lot of good comes from travel. It gives us a chance to disconnect and recharge. It exposes us to new things and helps us connect with nature and other people. Plus, we contribute to the local economies in the places we visit. But travel is not always good for planet. And the climate-conscious among us often feel guilty about the emissions we create when we get on a plane or fill up at the pump for a road trip. So, what can we do to make travel more environmentally friendly? Christina Beckmann is the cocreator of Tomorrow’s Air, a collective for travelers and travel businesses to support the scale up of carbon removal technologies. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Christina joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to discuss the layers of responsibility for climate change and who should be held accountable among travel operators, airlines, governments, and individual travelers. Christina explains what differentiates the adventure travel community from more “consumptive” travelers and how Tomorrow’s Air is educating both groups about carbon removal technologies. Listen in for insight on reducing your emissions when you travel and learn how to help Tomorrow’s Air build a community of carbon-removing travelers. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources The Adventure Travel Trade Association Outside & ATTA Survey on Climate McKinsey Skift Report on Net-Zero Travel | |||
| 23 Apr 2025 | 345: Why Too Many TV Antiheroes May Be Bad for the Climate | 00:48:02 | |
Fair warning: this episode spoils a lot of (older) media. Antiheroes make for great television. But why are we obsessed with them? Why are they in nearly all prestige dramas? Is this a result of our cultural beliefs, or is it (re)producing a culture of cynical realism? What impacts might it have for politics and climate change? This ascendancy of the antihero is a trend I've been watching (and often enjoying) since my teen years. Shows like The Sopranos helped bring television to its lofty artistic status, but it did so by confusing the natural empathy that good storytelling generates. The longer one watches shows like The Sopranos, the more one ends up rooting for bad guys to be successful. In a world that is ever more mediated by media, could a similar trend be happening in politics? Today's show is an attempt to make sense of the antihero through a number of prestige dramas, and look for some ways of telling stories that don't lead us into the abyss of constant moral ambiguity. Today we're going to talk about hope, reclaiming moral authority, and why it's cool to believe in things. I hope you'll join me in that ambition. This Episode's Sponsors Listen to the RCC episode with Lisett Luik from Arbonics Email me to sponsor at carbon.removal.strategies [at] gmail.com. Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change "The judge speaks in the name of justice; the priest speaks in the name of pity, which is nothing but a more lofty justice." - Victor Hugo, Les Misérables "Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven." The Sopranos (here's a clip where Anthony Jr. steals sacramental wine from the church and the shot lingers for a few extra seconds on St. Jude, the patron saint of lost causes—perfection) Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band on Wikipedia Littlefinger Tells Varys That Chaos Is A Ladder | Game of Thrones | HBO The scene between Michael and Kay in The Godfather | |||
| 02 Feb 2021 | S2E49: At the feet of a modern hermit—w/ Markus Torgeby, author of Under the Open Skies | 00:47:09 | |
In modern society, we’re conditioned to believe that acquiring more stuff makes our lives better. But what if getting back to basics leads to a richer life? What if consuming less and connecting with nature more opens us up to what really matters? Markus Torgeby is the author of Under the Open Skies: Finding Peace and Health in Nature. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Markus joins Ross to explain how he came to live alone in the forest of Northern Sweden and describe how stripping life down to the basic needs helped him identify what was truly important and heal from trauma. Markus shares his take on technology, discussing how to gauge how much screen time is right for you (and help your kids do the same). Listen in for insight on living a richer life by consuming less and get Markus’ advice on taking small steps to build your own deep relationship with nature. Connect with Nori Email podcast@nori.com Resources Under the Open Skies: Finding Peace and Health in Nature by Markus Torgeby and Frida Torgeby | |||
| 23 Apr 2024 | 322: On Being a Climate Hypocrite—w/ Amie Engerbretson, pro skier and filmmaker of The Hypocrite | 00:58:24 | |
You are condemned to be free, and yet how much responsibility do you bear for the structures you inhabit? Do your individual consumer choices matter, or is it some distant political economy? Should we enjoy our time in nature on snowmobiles, or is that just one more bootprint on the road to hypocritical perdition? Do you need to be perfect in order to be an activist? In this episode, Nori cofounder Ross Kenyon, and Thanks-A-Ton cofounder Siobhan Montoya Lavender, discuss the new short film from Protect Our Winters and professional skier Amy Engerbretson, The Hypocrite. In this wide-ranging discussion, Amy discusses why she made The Hypocrite, which deals with how she went from climate ignorance, through the guilt of her carbon footprint and that of skiing, and became an imperfect climate advocate. She emphasizes the importance of systemic solutions over individual perfectionism, revealing the often-paralyzing effects of aiming for personal purity in environmental activism. The film aims to inspire action by showcasing the power of collective efforts in outdoor communities, urging listeners to engage civically beyond mere personal adjustments, while also discussing whether duty must be done for its own sakes, regardless of how big of an impact it might have. The session concludes with Amy's thoughts on political will as the paramount force for climate change mitigation, encouragement for involvement with organizations like Protect Our Winters, and the value of messy, imperfect advocacy. Resources Connect with Nori Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram | |||
| 25 May 2021 | S2E65: How to start learning about carbon removal—w/ John Sanchez of Carbon Removal Academy | 00:54:50 | |
So, you’re interested in carbon removal and curious about working in the climate space. But you’re not sure how your skills might apply, and you don’t know where to begin learning about the different types of carbon sequestration or the major players in the industry. John Sanchez is the Founder and Curriculum Designer at Carbon Removal Academy and the Co-Creator of the AirMiners Boot Up Program and Problem Pack Climate Sprint Workgroups. He is also building Carbon Visions, a community of college students working on carbon removal solutions. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, John joins Ross to explain how these experiences facilitate the exploration process for transitioning into the climate space. John shares his take on what makes a climate community valuable and discusses the debate around ecological versus industrial sequestration. Listen in to understand how John’s love of literature informs his work in carbon removal and learn how his experiences can help YOU uncover your climate affinity and then apply your skills to reversing climate change. Connect with Ross Join Nori's book club on Patreon Join Nori's weekly newsletter, The Wrap Email podcast@nori.com Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources John’s Travels in Carbon Removal Newsletter John’s Carbon Visions Slack Community Biochar & Sawmills Problem Pack Report Evan Hynes of Climatebase on Reversing Climate Change World Resources Institute’s Post on Regenerative Ag | |||
| 01 Nov 2022 | S3E28: Mutualism: Cooperation, not Competition in Nature—w/ Kristin Ohlson, author of Sweet in Tooth and Claw | 00:39:54 | |
Darwin and others theorized that evolution was about the survival of the fittest. But when Peter Kropotkin followed up on Darwin’s research, he discovered the competition was only part of the story of evolution in nature. And Kropotkin argued that cooperation and collaboration among organisms also helps them evolve. So, why is Darwin’s narrative the dominant one? And how can an understanding of mutualism help us protect the ecosystems we depend on and find solutions to climate change? Kristin Ohlson is an award-winning freelance journalist and author of The Soil Will Save Us: How Scientists, Farmers, and Foodies are Healing the Soil to Save the Planet. Her new release is called Sweet in Tooth and Claw: Stories of Generosity and Cooperation in the Natural World. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Kristin joins Ross to explain why the study of mutualism in the evolution of nature has lagged, and challenge us to recognize and protect the cooperative relationships among organisms in our ecosystems. Kristin shares some of her favorite stories from the book, describing how ranchers, scientists, and government leaders worked together to heal a degraded landscape in Eastern Nevada. Listen in for Kristin’s insight on the growth of regenerative agriculture and learn how mutualism gives organisms superpowers as they work together to survive and thrive in extreme environments. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution by Peter Kropotkin The Biology of Mutualism: Ecology and Evolution by Douglas H. Boucher | |||
| 05 Feb 2021 | Grist's intersectional climate fiction contest—w/ Tory Stephens of Fix, the Grist solutions lab | 00:21:29 | |
Making art about climate is useful in that it reaches a part of the brain that science does not. And climate fiction as a genre gives us a way to get the climate conversation started. Better yet, cli-fi that focuses on solutions might actually help us find a way forward. Tory Stephens is the New England Network Weaver at Fix, the Grist Solutions Lab. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Tory joins Ross and cohost Jess Miles to discuss the launch of his team’s new climate fiction contest, Imagine 2200: Climate Fiction for Future Ancestors and explain what differentiates his team’s writing contest from others of its kind. Tory offers insight around climate fiction and the subgenres of solarpunk and hopepunk, challenging writers to create intersectional, solutions-focused work. Listen in for an overview of Imagine 2200’s submission guidelines and learn how fiction might offer a pathway out of the climate crisis. Connect with Nori Resources Imagine 2200: Climate Fiction for Future Ancestors ‘We’re Launching a Fiction Contest’ on Grist The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson ‘Hopepunk, the Latest Storytelling Trend, Is All About Weaponized Optimism’ in Vox Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor | |||
| 15 Apr 2025 | 344: The Optimal Number of Travel Deaths Is Non-Zero: Carbon Removal Trade-Offs in Scale & Quality | 00:25:47 | |
It's a jarring phrase. There's an even more jarring version of it in this episode. You've been warned. Economists are well-known for gnomic sentences that can sound cruel. For some, that's one of the job's many perks. But that doesn't mean that there isn't some truth in representing decisions as trade-offs. Today is a bonus monologue episode where I am going to unpack this phrase (and its nastier cousin) and explain what it has to teach the carbon removal industry as it grapples with the tension between scale and quality. This Episode's Sponsors Listen to the RCC episode with Lisett Luik from Arbonics Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change | |||
| 29 Nov 2022 | S3E32: Tax-Deductible Carbon Removal?!—w/ Alex Roetter of Terraset | 00:31:48 | |
Of all philanthropy globally, only a couple percentage points go to climate in general. And of that couple percentage points, only something like 2% of climate giving is dedicated to carbon removal. The problem is, we need to fund several gigatonnes of carbon removal per year by 2050 to combat climate change. And that’s going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars. So, how do we encourage governments, corporations and philanthropists to support carbon removal? How might the average person make a tax-deductible donation to fund carbon removal? Alex Roetter is Founder of Terraset, a new nonprofit climate fund that uses private philanthropy to invest in carbon removal projects. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Alex joins Ross to explain how the underfunding of carbon removal inspires his philanthropic work, and why reducing emissions alone is not enough to curb climate change. Alex discusses the well-known donors and carbon removal providers Terraset is working with and describes the criteria his team uses to evaluate the projects they choose to fund. Listen in to understand how giving to a 501(c)(3) makes your dollars go further and learn how to make your own tax-deductible carbon removal purchase through Terraset. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources Email hello@terrasetclimate.org Dr. Marcius Extavour on Reversing Climate Change S3EP28 Bonus Charm Industrial on Reversing Climate Change S3EP27 | |||
| 13 May 2021 | Grounded: A Fierce, Feminine Guide to Connecting with the Soil—w/ Dr. Erin Yu-Juin McMorrow, author | 00:54:40 | |
Are we out of balance? Some thinkers pose that the scales have tipped toward industry, ego, and individuality, and we’re disconnected from the cycles of nature. We’re all Yang and no Yin. And this imbalance is causing climate change. So, what can we do to restore our sense of interconnectedness among all living things? How can tapping into our spirituality help us heal ourselves and the earth? Dr. Erin Yu-Juin McMorrow is the author of Grounded: A Fierce, Feminine Guide to Connecting with the Soil and Healing from the Ground Up. She is also a founding member of Kiss the Ground, a nonprofit dedicated to awakening people to the possibilities of regeneration. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. McMorrow joins guest host and Nori cofounder Alexsandra Guerra to share her mother metaphor for the soil, describing how she sees the Yin as the feminine energy of regeneration and why western society struggles with birth and death—the primary portals of transformation. Dr. McMorrow explores how our desire to DO disregards the spiritual aspect of climate change, discussing the individual and collective healing we must do to activate our soul voice and reconnect with each other and the earth. Listen in to understand the relationship between the empowerment of women and soil health and learn Dr. McMorrow’s simple practices for connecting with spirit and bringing our natural systems back into balance. Connect with Nori Join Nori's book club on Patreon Subscribe to the Nori newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources | |||
| 06 Oct 2020 | S2E33: Sailing in the age of climate change—w/ John Kretschmer, author and sailor | 00:54:52 | |
Sailors rely on wind patterns and currents to make decisions about the expeditions they take, tracking weather patterns along the way and adjusting their route as necessary. But climate change has made winds less consistent and weather patterns less predictable. How does that impact sailing? John Kretschmer is the President of John Kretschmer Sailing and the author of several books about his voyages at sea, including his latest release, Sailing to the Edge of Time: The Promise, the Challenges and the Freedom of Ocean Voyaging. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, John joins Ross to explain how he came to love boats and books, describing how sailing facilitates deep and powerful intellectual discussion. John weighs in on how climate change has impacted the way he plans and conducts passages, offering insight on how the trade winds and the Gulf Stream have changed in the last 30 years. Listen in to understand how sailors cope with volatile weather and find out how climate change has influenced the expeditions John is planning for 2021 and 2022. Connect with Nori: Resources: John’s Celestial Navigation Workshop Sailing Alone Around the World by Joshua Slocum Voyage of the Liberdade: A Journey from Brazil to America in a Hand-Built Boat by Joshua Slocum Zorba the Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis | |||
| 17 Aug 2021 | The Road to COP26— w/ Brock Benefiel of The Climate Pod | 00:13:58 | |
The climate crisis will be on the world stage once again in November 2021, as the UN Climate Change Conference of the Parties known as COP26 convenes in Glasgow. The summit brings together 200-plus countries to tackle climate change, and it is billed as the most significant climate event since the Paris Agreement was adopted in 2015 at COP21. So, how can you learn more about what’s happening at COP26 and why it’s important? Brock Benefiel is the cohost of The Climate Pod, a podcast that covers the latest news on the climate crisis. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Brock joins Ross to discuss the special focus of the show’s new series, Road to COP26, giving us a preview of the scientists, policymakers, and activists Brock and his brother Ty are highlighting in the weeks to come. Brock offers insight into what we need to accomplish at COP26, describing what success looks like and why achieving it is such a monumental challenge. Listen in as Brock shares some of his favorite episodes of The Climate Pod to date and find out why it’s crucial to engage in meaningful conversations about the climate crisis. This episode is part of a partnership with The Climate Pod. Reach out to hello@nori.com if you or your podcast are interested in collaboration efforts that fuel climate action. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Email podcast@nori.com Resources The IPCC Sixth Assessment Report Greta Thunberg’s 2019 Speech to the UN UK MP David Lammy on The Climate Pod Dr. Ed Hawkins on The Climate Pod David Wallace-Wells on The Climate Pod | |||
| 05 Nov 2019 | 99: Nuclear, GMOs, & the importance of being rigorous—with Nathanael Johnson of Grist | 00:53:28 | |
Nathanael Johnson is a Senior Writer at Grist and the author of All Natural: A Skeptic’s Quest to Discover If the Natural Approach to Diet, Childbirth, Healing and the Environment Really Keeps Us Healthier and Happier and Unseen City: The Majesty of Pigeons, the Discreet Charm of Snails & Other Wonders of the Urban Wilderness. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nathanael joins Ross and Christophe to discuss how his writing challenges the status quo, asking the questions that inspire real results
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| 16 Apr 2021 | Rebuilding trust in a polarized world—Dr. Kevin Vallier, philosopher at Bowling Green State University | 01:03:50 | |
According to the NOMINATE Index, the last time the US was this polarized was just before and during the Civil War. So, how did we get here? And what can the philosophy of public reason liberalism teach us about living together—even when we don’t agree on much? Dr. Kevin Vallier is an Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bowling Green University and author of Trust in a Polarized Age and Must Politics Be War? Restoring Trust in the Open Society. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Vallier joins Ross to discuss the doom loop between falling distrust and growing polarization and address how we can learn to disagree in more a productive way. Dr. Vallier explains liberalism in general and public reason liberalism specifically, describing how we might build a shared doctrine that appeals to multiple reasonable perspectives. Listen in for Dr. Vallier’s public reason argument for restricting carbon emissions and learn what we can do to rebuild trust in our institutions and each other. Connect with Nori Join Nori's book club on Patreon Email podcast@nori.com Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Trust in a Polarized Age by Kevin Vallier Must Politics Be War? Restoring Our Trust in a Polarized Age by Kevin Vallier Nolan McCarty on Google Scholar So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson A Theory of Justice by John Rawls | |||
| 25 Feb 2020 | S2E1: What can carbon removal learn from cleantech?—w/ Jigar Shah of Generate Capital | 00:41:44 | |
Jigar Shah is the Cofounder and President of Generate Capital, a financial services firm dedicated to building the infrastructure necessary to deliver affordable and reliable resource solutions. A luminary in the realm of financing renewable energy, Jigar is also the author of Creating Climate Wealth: Unlocking the Impact Economy. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jigar joins Ross and Christophe to discuss his mission to help entrepreneurs and companies scale up proven climate solutions.
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| 21 Sep 2020 | The Electric Election 2020 Roadtrip w/ Benji Backer of The Conservation Coalition | 00:16:26 | |
Reversing Climate Change alumnus and founder and president of the American Conservation Coalition, Benji Backer, returns to the show to tell us about The Conservation Coalition's new multimedia project, The Electric Election Roadtrip 2020. Benji and his team are traveling the country in a Tesla X to investigate the multiple overlapping climate solutions being developed. You can follow the show and its video on Facebook, TCC's website, or the podcast via audio in your podcast app of choice. Resources: The Electric Election 2020 Roadtrip website American Conservation Coalition's Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube, website | |||
| 07 Oct 2022 | Carbon Removal in Local Government: The Four Corners Carbon Removal Coalition—w/ Susie Strife, Ramón DC Alatorre, & Chris Neidl | 00:49:24 | |
Local governments are surprisingly powerful levers for carbon removal. While large national governments can be slow and unwieldy, cities and counties can sometimes be much more nimble. They can get carbon removal projects off the ground quickly and share what they learn with other local governments. So, which municipalities are taking the lead in the CDR space? And how do they integrate carbon removal in the local government landscape? Susie Strife is the Boulder County Director of Sustainability, Climate Action and Resilience; Ramón DC Alatorre is Climate and Energy Coordinator for the City of Flagstaff; and Chris Neidl is Cofounder of OpenAir Collective. Together, they are collaborators in forming the Four Corners Carbon Removal Coalition, an alliance of local governments that are pooling resources to fund CDR projects in the Four Corners region of the Southwest US. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Susie, Ramón, and Chris join Ross and Siobhan to explain why Flagstaff and Boulder are ahead of the curve when it comes to carbon removal. They share the resistance they face when it comes to endorsing carbon offsets and explain how local governments can educate communities around carbon removal. Listen in to understand why the Four Corners model focuses on funding carbon removal projects that can be replicated and learn how Susie, Ramón, and Chris support other jurisdictions in finding local applications of CDR. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources Four Corners Carbon Removal Coalition Boulder County Office of Sustainability, Climate Action and Resilience Boulder County Climate on Twitter Flagstaff Sustainability Office ‘Local Governments Can Drive Carbon Dioxide Removal Innovation’ Flagstaff Climate Emergency Declaration Carbon Offsets: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver Eli Mitchell-Larson on Reversing Climate Change S2EP62 The Oxford Offsetting Principles | |||
| 03 Jan 2023 | S3E34: The Environmental Impact of WWII in the Pacific Theatre—with Ian W. Toll, author of The Pacific War Trilogy | 00:51:22 | |
Much has been written about the European Theater in World War II. But the war in the Pacific Theater was the largest naval war ever fought. It covered the entire breadth of the Pacific Ocean, and much of the fighting took place in remote, wild environments. How did the conflict impact those environments heretofore untouched by the outside world? And what about the Indigenous peoples who lived there? Ian W. Toll is the author of Six Frigates: The Epic History of the Founding of the US Navy and the Pacific War Trilogy—Pacific Crucible, The Conquering Tide, and Twilight of the Gods. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ian joins Ross to explain how airbases were built on hundreds of Pacific islands during WWII and describe how the scale of development radically and irrevocably changed the ecosystems there. Ian discusses how hundreds of shipwrecks from WWII have the potential to turn into environmental disasters at any time and weighs in on what we can do to avoid a modern-day war in the Pacific—and why it’s crucial. Listen in for Ian’s insight on the logistical prowess of the US to ramp up shipbuilding during WWII and find out why Admiral Halsey ranked the bulldozer among the five most important weapons of the Pacific War. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources Six Frigates: The Epic History of the Founding of the US Navy by Ian W. Toll Ian W. Toll’s Pacific War Trilogy With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa by E.B. Sledge | |||
| 18 Oct 2022 | S3E26: Why Is Moving Grain Easier than Moving Money?—w/ Dane Braun, VP of Product at Bushel | 00:34:43 | |
The easier it is to participate in a sustainability program like Nori, the less motivation it requires for farmers to enroll. But the current lack of digitization in the ag space makes it challenging for farmers to get paid for carbon removal. So, is there an easy way to track agricultural data and compensate farmers for regenerative practices? Dane Braun is Vice President of Product at Bushel, an ag software company that is digitizing the infrastructure for grain. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dane joins Ross and Nori team members Laura Satkowski and Jada Dormaier, to explain how our partnership with Bushel makes it easy for farmers to practice carbon removal. Dane shares Bushel’s efforts to standardize and connect the many digital applications available to farmers and describes how growers might use data to make decisions around implementing regenerative practices. Listen in to understand the parallels between how grain is priced as a commodity and the NORI token and learn how farmers might be able to benefit from being part of the Nori-Bushel partnership. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources Nori’s Partnership with FarmLogs by Bushel Make Your Own Biochar on RCC S3EP25 | |||
| 05 May 2020 | S2E11: Can capitalism be regenerative?—w/ John Elkington, author of Green Swans | 00:47:54 | |
John Elkington is an internationally recognized authority on corporate responsibility and sustainable development, bestselling author, and serial entrepreneur. He currently serves as Chief Pollinator at Volans, a future-focused business working at the intersection of the sustainability, entrepreneurship, and innovation movements. Today, John joins Ross and Paul to discuss his most recent book, Green Swans: The Coming Boom in Regenerative Capitalism.
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| 07 Jun 2022 | S3E16: How to save vanishing foodways and why!—w/ Dan Saladino, author of Eating to Extinction | 00:53:55 | |
The Green Revolution in the second half of the 20th century was seen as an important solution to the problem of malnutrition in the developing world at the time. And while it may have succeeded in staving off hunger, the industrialization of agriculture created a whole new set of problems, chief among them a lack of diversity in our food system. Why does this matter? What is the food monoculture costing us? And what can we do to bring back some of the diverse foodways we’ve lost along the way? Dan Saladino is the renowned food journalist behind BBC Radio 4’s The Food Programme and author of Eating to Extinction: The World’s Rarest Foods and Why We Need to Save Them. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dan joins Ross to explain why we so desperately need biodiversity in our food system, exploring why diverse foods may taste better, and could be better for us. Dan walks us through several examples of rare foods discussed in his book and offers insight on the people working to revive old foodways. Listen in to understand how the war in Ukraine is causing a food crisis and learn what we can do to create a system that is more resilient, more robust, and healthier—both for people and the planet. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Eating to Extinction: The World’s Rarest Foods and Why We Need to Save Them by Dan Saladino Royal Botanic Gardens in Kew Research Consider the Axe: Food, Farming and the Wonders of Stonehenge on The Food Programme | |||
| 14 Jan 2025 | 331: The Future of Wildfire Prevention: Data, Insurance, & The Los Angeles Disaster—w/ Allison Wolff, CEO of Vibrant Planet | 00:45:37 | |
The wildfires in Los Angeles have gripped the country this past week. How could so much valuable real estate in prestigious zip codes populated at least in part by the rich and famous burn without recourse? Today's Reversing Climate Change podcast sees alumna of the show, Allison Wolff, return to discuss Vibrant Planet and the LA wildfires. We were originally scheduled just to catch up because it had been too long, but it turned out to be a serendipitous podcast. Allison has been working on understanding and managing fire risk for years and has built a data platform at Vibrant Planet that helps various entities like state agencies, utilities, and insurers understand and mitigate fire risk in areas under their responsibility. | |||
| 20 Apr 2021 | S2E60: Art out of thin (carbontech) air—w/ Madison Savilow of Carbon Upcycling & Expedition Air | 00:47:57 | |
Art has a unique ability to explain complex, oft-emotional topics in an understandable way. And that’s why Carbon Upcycling Technologies (CUT) is engaging with visual artists to educate the general public about carbontech. CUT offers their artist-collaborators free materials and tech support, encouraging the use of CO2-derived materials to create pieces that ‘showcase the carbon capture and utilization industry.’ Madison Savilow is the Chief of Staff at Carbon Upcycling Technologies and Venture Lead of CUT’s new consumer brand, Expedition Air. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Madison joins Ross to discuss the technology Carbon Upcycling uses to create solid materials like concrete, plastics, and consumer products out of CO2 and share her take on the tradeoffs associated with working with some of the largest players in the energy sector. Madison explains what inspired CUT to launch Expedition Air, describing how a consumer brand helps educate the general public about carbontech and what other companies in the space are following suit. Listen in for insight into Expedition Air’s collaboration with artists Annalee Levin and Luis Merchan and learn how Madison and her team are using visual art to market carbontech. Connect with Nori Join Nori's book club on Patreon Email podcast@nori.com Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Expedition Air Artist Collaborations Expedition Air Artist in Residence Program Annalee Levin on Reversing Climate Change S2EP52 Apoorv Sinha on Reversing Climate Change EP078 Rob Niven on Reversing Climate Change S2EP16 | |||
| 17 Aug 2023 | S3E51: The Heat Will Kill You First—w/ Jeff Goodell, author and contributing editor of Rolling Stone | 00:57:50 | |
Extreme heat. What does it feel like? Why is it getting worse and who is it impacting? In this Reversing Climate Change podcast episode, we spoke with Jeff Goodell, contributing editor at Rolling Stone and author of The Water Will Come and his latest, The Heat Will Kill You First: Life and Death ona Scorched Planet. Tune in to hear about Jeff Goodell's personal experience with extreme heat. Learn about what cities are doing to combat the urban heat island effect, and what the true costs of adaptation will likely be. Could certain cities become uninhabitable due to escalating heat levels? Ross and Jeff explore the variations in heat adaptation across different regions and income brackets, along with the possibility of introducing new labor laws in response to heat-related challenges. The discussion also delves into the preparedness of the U.S. military for climate change impacts, the future outlook for ranking or naming extreme heat events, and the implications for the fossil fuel industry and the transition to clean energy. One thing becomes clear, as temperatures continue to rise: the Phoenix, Las Vegas, or Austin that people know and love, is going to look very different in the future. The show also discusses Jeff's long-running reportage on both carbon removal and geoengineering, and evaluates the status of both ideas, and what's likely to play out in the near-future. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources The Heat Will Kill You First, Life and Death on a Scorched Planet | |||
| 30 Jul 2020 | How to Decolonize the Atmosphere (with carbon removal)—w/ Dr. Holly Jean Buck | 00:55:04 | |
Many indigenous communities see the climate crisis as another form of colonialism. First World countries have colonized the atmosphere with their greenhouse gas emissions. And there is a risk that carbon removal infrastructure reinforces business-as-usual. So, what is the best approach to decolonizing the atmosphere? How can we tackle climate change in a way that fits with broader progressive goals around equity and social justice? Dr. Holly Jean Buck is a postdoctoral fellow at UCLA’s Institute on the Environment and Sustainability and the author of After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration. Dr. Buck joins Ross to discuss her recent article in Progressive International, ‘How to Decolonize the Atmosphere.’ She describes how the ideas in The Red Deal: Indigenous Action to Save Our Earth informed her thinking and introduces us to the concept of settler colonialism as it relates to climate change. Dr. Buck walks us through her three progressive goals for carbon removal: 1) link carbon with the managed decline of fossil fuels, 2) ensure public ownership and return on investment, and 3) advocate for a global framework for carbon removal. Listen in for Dr. Buck’s insight on the interconnectedness of the climate crisis with the other major issues we face and find out why she is concerned about the way social media may be influencing scientific research. Resources The Red Deal Part 1: End the Occupation Beyond Wiindigo Infrastructure by Winona LaDuke, Deborah Cowen After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck Global CCS Institute Report on Climate Change Rhodium Report on Jobs & Direct Air Capture Rhodium Report on Policies for the US to Advance Direct Air Capture Sad by Design: On Platform Nihilism by Geert Lovink ‘Climate Change is a Waste Management Problem’ in Issues in Science and Technology All Hell Breaking Loose: The Pentagon’s Perspective on Climate Change by Michael T. Klare | |||
| 25 Apr 2023 | (A Spotify video podcast!) What goes into making a carbon removal meme?—w/ Nori's Memelab | 00:36:01 | |
What goes into the making of a carbon removal meme? How many pitches does it take before magic comes out? Why do some many captions end up as emojis?!Nori's Memelab: Ross Kenyon, Siobhan Montoya Lavender, and Asa Kamer film their writer's room meeting on a lark to show how we go from a notion to something we think worthy of sharing with our community. Listen in to learn more, and also, respond to the survey in this episode to let us know if you like video podcasts, meme shows, etc. It is an experiment! Thanks for hanging with us. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram | |||
| 28 Feb 2022 | Hauntologies of carbon removal—w/ Dr. Holly Jean Buck of the University of Buffalo: RCC S3 bonus | 00:46:33 | |
What happens to dreams of the future that never arrive, yet still affect our society and culture so deeply? Is it possible to be haunted by failed visions or our own anticipations, and what does that mean? Today, Dr. Holly Jean Buck, Assistant Professor of Environment and Sustainability at the University of Buffalo and author of the new book, Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough, comes back on the show for a bonus episode to explain the concept of "hauntology", its origin in Jacques Derrida's writing and later popularization by Mark Fisher in his book, Capitalism Realism: Is There No Alternative?, and to what degree these ideas might help us understand the worlds of carbon removal, climatetech, and our shared planetary future. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103 Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S3E4 After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck | |||
| 17 May 2022 | S3E14: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times—w/ Mónica Guzmán | 00:39:04 | |
Mónica Guzmán has some difficult conversations with her parents. She’s a liberal Democrat, while her mom and dad voted enthusiastically for Trump both times. So, how does she bridge the political divide and maintain a loving relationship with her parents, despite their differences of opinion? And what can you and I do to develop intellectual curiosity and see difficult issues from different points of view? Mónica is the Digital Director at Braver Angels , the nation’s largest nonprofit working to depolarize America. She is also the author of the new book, I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Mónica joins Ross to discuss how she navigates the relationship with her conservative Republican parents, describing why it’s important to maintain connections with friends and family who don’t see things the way you do. Mónica explains how condescension and curiosity are mutually exclusive, challenging us to begin conversations by believing that the other person’s perspective is valid and asking questions around how they came to their beliefs. Listen in to understand how the more facets of an issue you see, the closer you are to the truth, and learn how to be open to influence or new information that might change your opinion. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources | |||
| 27 Sep 2022 | S3E24: When to Quit Your Climate Startup—w/ Annie Duke, author of Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away | 00:50:32 | |
We live in a culture that glamorizes grit and derides giving up. But in the world of climate startups, we can’t afford to spend time on projects that aren’t working. So, how do you know when to quit? Decision Strategist Annie Duke is a retired professional poker player and World Series of Poker bracelet holder. She is also the author of several books, including Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Annie joins Ross to explain how to apply decision-making skills from poker and her research in the context of a climate startup. Annie walks us through her three strategies for deciding when to fold, challenging us to set explicit kill criteria and leverage the ‘monkeys and pedestals’ mental model to abandon projects that aren’t working. Listen in for Annie’s insight on prioritizing moonshots that develop useful technology and learn how to persevere when projects are worthwhile—and walk away when they’re not. Connect with Nori Join Nori's Discord to hang out with other fans of the podcast and Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources Quit: The Power of Knowing When to Walk Away by Annie Duke How to Decide: Simple Tools for Making Better Choices by Annie Duke Thinking in Bets: Making Smarter Decisions When You Don’t Have All the Facts by Annie Duke Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction by Philip E. Tetlock and Dan Gardner Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance by Angela Duckworth | |||
| 18 Feb 2025 | 336: Will Trees Play a Role in the Future of Carbon Removal?—w/ Lisett Luik, Co-Founder of Arbonics | 00:43:07 | |
Seemingly nothing generates hotter passions in carbon credits than forestry. Can credits count against fossil emissions? Is there enough of it to make a difference? What is the appropriate way of funding it? Today's guest is Lisett Luik, Co-Founder and COO of Arbonics, an innovative forestry company in the Baltic that straddles the line between carbon removal and other services forests can provide. We discuss if and how forestry can fit into carbon removal, help the planet avoid tipping points, and adequately motivate land managers to employ better practices. We also play a quick game of bioenergy: friend or foe! Always more to discuss on forestry, and I doubt this show will be the final word. Resources | |||
| 13 Aug 2019 | 87: The Ends of the World—with Peter Brannen | 00:49:24 | |
Peter Brannen is an award-winning science journalist with expertise in ocean science, deep time, astrobiology, and the carbon cycle. Peter walks Ross and Christophe through the five major mass extinctions in Earth’s history, discussing what events triggered each extinction and how plant and animal life changed each time.
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| 21 Sep 2023 | S3E54: Building Commodity Scale Infrastructure for Carbon Removal—w/ Matt Trudeau, Nori's new CEO | 00:48:56 | |
Is buying carbon credits like buying real estate? What would a tradable commodity market for the carbon removal industry look like? In today's episode, Ross sits down with Matt Trudeau, Nori’s new CEO, to get a glimpse of how a veteran market builder thinks about building carbon markets that meet the challenges of a rapidly scaling industry. Matt talks about the balance between standardization and innovation within carbon market development, discusses the evolution of financial markets, and explores the impact of high-frequency trading on fairness and efficiency. Listen in to get a sense of where the burgeoning carbon market is encountering hurdles and what we can learn from the historical transition to electronic trading systems. If you've ever pondered the transformation of bespoke carbon credit transactions into a full-fledged commodities market, this episode is a must-listen. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources | |||
| 24 Aug 2023 | S3E52: Climate baking returns! Can we bake our way out of oblivion?—w/ Caroline Saunders, pastry chef and writer of Pale Blue Tart | 00:51:59 | |
In this episode of Reversing Climate Change, we are joined once again by Caroline Saunders, a skilled pastry chef and dedicated recipe tester, who channels her passion into crafting delectable treats using climate-friendly ingredients. Ross Kenyon and Radhika Moolgavkar enthusiastically embraced the challenge of trying Caroline’s climate-friendly baking recipes. Discover who fared better in their quest to bake the perfect key lime pie! Discover how Caroline’s journey towards becoming a climate-conscious baker was ignited in her personal life but then involved a radical career change out of environmental media and into studying abroad at Le Cordon Bleu in Paris and interning at a Michelin-starred restaurant. The ingenuity and precision of the pastry chefs she encountered inspired her to harness her culinary skills for a greater environmental cause. Explore how Caroline is developing best practices, creating a gateway for at-home bakers into regenerative foods. Currently, Caroline tests recipes for a cookbook author who shares her passion for climate-friendly baking. She experiments with Kernza flour, spelt flour, and non-dairy milks, sharing her innovations on her blog and social media. Caroline encourages culinary exploration with novel elements and the generous sharing of discoveries. She underscores the importance of supporting businesses that embrace climate-friendly ingredient choices. Discover the perspectives of other bakers on seed-saving and recipes that prioritize the climate's welfare. Envision the future of global sustenance in the decades and centuries ahead. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources | |||
| 08 Sep 2020 | S2E29: Jonathan Safran Foer on meat, & his book We Are the Weather | 00:58:31 | |
Regardless of where you stand on the ethics of eating meat, the fact is, it’s a big part of the climate math. It provokes strong feelings all around, some of which may be contradictory within one’s self. And so much of the climate analysis is dependent upon how the animals were raised, marketed, and so on. It’s hard to speak (at least for some) with crisp lines. In this episode we wade into these details. Jonathan Safran Foer is the bestselling author of Eating Animals, Everything Is Illuminated, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, and We Are the Weather: Saving the Planet Begins at Breakfast. Today, Jonathan joins Ross to describe his relationship with meat, explaining what inspired him to become a vegetarian at the age of nine and why he is willing to admit to moral failure when he grabs a burger at the airport. Jonathan shares his proposal for reducing our meat consumption as posited in We Are the Weather, weighing in on why it’s dangerous to make our food choices such a big part of our identity. Listen in for Jonathan’s insight on what makes climate change such a difficult story to tell and learn why Jonathan thinks reserving meat for dinner is a productive form of climate activism. Resources: We Are the Weather: Saving the Planet Begins at Breakfast by Jonathan Safran Foer The Omnivore’s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals by Michael Pollan ‘Options for Keeping the Food System Within Environmental Limits’ in Nature Kate Knibbs on Reversing Climate Change S2EP12 The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming by David Wallace-Wells Learning to Die in the Anthropocene by Roy Scranton Email podcast@nori.com | |||
| 10 Mar 2020 | S2E3: We ask Vox's David Roberts if we're naive about conservatives and climate | 01:17:35 | |
David Roberts is a staff writer for Vox, and his work focuses on energy, politics and climate change. On this episode of the podcast, David joins Ross and Aldyen to share his take on the disappearance of the center-right as a faction of the Republican Party and discuss the role social trust plays in the health of a society. Aldyen introduces the idea of a common goal as key to the survival of an empire, and David explains why climate change is unlikely to serve as our national purpose here in the US.
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| 17 Jan 2023 | S3E35: Climate Change vs. Artisanal Cheesemaking—w/ Andy Hatch of Uplands Cheese | 00:56:37 | |
While large, industrial cheesemakers are known for consistency and scale, small operations like Uplands Cheese make boutique cheeses unique to the land where they’re produced. And these small, pasture-based dairy farms have their own unique concerns when it comes to climate change. So, how is extreme weather already affecting operations like Uplands Cheese? How does climate factor into future planning for a 300-acre dairy farm? Cheesemaker Andy Hatch is Co-Owner at Uplands, a dairy farm and cheesemaking operation in Southern Wisconsin. Andy’s team produces two award-winning artisan cheeses, Pleasant Ridge Reserve and Rush Creek Reserve. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Andy joins Ross to explain why his team uses a seasonal model for cheesemaking, describing how Pleasant Ridge Reserve is made in the tradition of Alpine cheeses while Rush Creek is modeled after Vacherin Mont d’Or. Andy discusses how warmer, wetter weather is impacting his cows and what Uplands Cheese is doing to reduce its carbon footprint. Listen in for insight on trends in dairy farming influenced by climate change and learn how to support small dairy farmers like Andy who are good stewards of natural resources. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources Liz Thorpe on Reversing Climate Change S3EP31 The Book of Cheese by Liz Thorpe Dan Saladino on Reversing Climate Change S3EP16 Eating to Extinction by Dan Saladino | |||
| 06 Jun 2024 | 327: Carbon Removal & the Philosophy of Science: Kuhn's Paradigms & Feyerabend's Anarchism—w/ Anu Khan & Dr. Holly Jean Buck | 00:57:49 | |
How do we conduct science when there isn't a single isolated variable? What does that mean for carbon removal not taking place in a controlled environment? How does science even work?! Today's show originated from a question of how open-system carbon removal research can be conducted given that in a less-controlled environment, isolating for a single variable with replicability is less obviously possible. Does the scientific method really demand that, or is that some sort of pop culture understanding of science that needs to be challegned? To answer that question, host and co-founder of the Nori carbon removal marketplace, Ross Kenyon, asked Dr. Holly Jean Buck of the University at Buffalo and Anu Khan of Carbon180, to read two books and come on Reversing Climate Change to discuss them. The two texts are some of the foundational works of modern philosophy of science: Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, and Paul Feyerabend's Against Method. Kuhn argued that paradigms are the collection of foundational beliefs we have about how science and knowledge production is conducted, and that they are quite hard to see outside of since most people work so deeply within them. It can often be a generational effort, as older scientists die and new ones take their places. Feyerabend goes further, arguing that we shouldn't just look for where one paradigm supersedes another, but be protective of competing systems of knowledge and the valuable ways of seeing that they unlock. The show applies their learnings to the state of the CDR industry, and attempts to ferret out carbon removal's existing paradigm, whether the world is ready for credits that are not tonne-denominated, and how much time we can afford in retooling and letting "normal science" work within an imperfect paradigm vs. trying to create an entirely new paradigm ex nihilo. N.B. At the 8:55 mark, I contrast Ptolemaic with geocentric and I meant to say heliocentric. Feyerabend said that the quality of predictions between Ptolemaic/geocentric and heliocentric models was similar. Resources The Structure of Scientific Revolutions on Wikipedia | |||
| 21 May 2025 | 349: How Will Carbon Dioxide Removal Fit into Compliance Markets?—w/ Mike Azlen, Carbon Cap Management LLP | 01:00:32 | |
Everyone's focused on carbon credit offtakes and Voluntary Carbon Market purchases, but the compliance markets represent the vast majority of carbon assets in circulation. How do these markets work, and how might carbon removal interact with them in the future? Mike Azlen is the CEO and CIO of Carbon Cap Management LLP, a firm which trades within various compliance markets. We discuss why private traders like his company can help price discovery in compliance markets, and address some common criticisms of market-based approaches to climate change (both VCM and compliance markets.) Carbon removal is going to figure into various compliance markets in the future, but how exactly will that work? Might that be the demand boost that carbon removal needs to scale? There is also bonus content from this episode about some of Mike's observations about VCM failures. It will be released on Saturday, May 24th. Become a paid subscriber to access it when it is published! This Episode's Sponsor Listen to the RCC episode with Lisett Luik from Arbonics Become a sponsor by emailing carbon.removal.strategies[at]gmail.com Use this affiliate link to use Descript's transcripting and podcast editing service Use this affiliate link to use Riverside to record your podcasts Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change | |||
| 20 Feb 2025 | Will You Join the AirMiners Buyers Club?—w/ Adina Mangubat & Tito Jankowski, AirMiners | 00:28:01 | |
There are a lot of companies that want to buy carbon removal and don't have the budget to participate in Frontier or Symbiosis. What are they to do? Until now, they either had to pay expensive consultants or vet projects and contracts themselves and stand by their choices alone. No longer! The new AirMiners Buyers Club could not be arriving at a better time. Federal policy for carbon removal is in an extremely turbulent moment. Buying momentum is not growing to the degree that we need to see. The AirMiners Buyers Club aims to solve for the missing middle of carbon removal buyers. Do you work at (or know someone who works at) a company that could be passionate about supporting cutting-edge carbon removal companies? Are you a high-net-worth individual? Involved in philanthropy? If so, please reach out to Tito Jankowski directly (tito[at]airminers.com) and see how you can work together to grow CDR during its Dark Night of the Soul. Additionally, if you personally want to support CDR in non-monetary ways, come join the so-called Rebel Alliance in AirMiners. We'd love to have you. Thank you so much for your love and support of carbon removal! Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change Join the AirMiners Buyers Club by emailing Tito Jankowski directly: tito[at]airminers.com. | |||
| 07 Mar 2023 | Financial Innovation within Carbon Removal (& ERW!)—w/ Peter Olivier, Head of New Markets at UNDO | 00:48:53 | |
In the last five years, an enormous amount of effort has been put into technical and scientific innovation around carbon removal. But what about financial innovation? How can we create more opportunities to finance carbon removal at scale? And what does innovation look like in carbon removal markets? Peter Olivier is Head of New Markets at UNDO, a company that uses enhanced rock weathering to achieve carbon removal at scale. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Peter joins Ross and Siobhan to describe the UNDO process, discussing the source of the rock UNDO uses, and why they partner with farmers to spread crushed rock on cropland. Peter shares his take on the forward contract basis of the CDR market, exploring ‘the uncomfortably large amounts of money’ we need to scale and how we might make CDR forwards contracts more fungible. Listen in for Peter’s insight on innovating CDR markets through donor-advised funds and find out how we might be able to influence the future by creating opportunities to finance carbon removal at scale! Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources | |||
| 22 Nov 2022 | S3E31: Loving Cheese in the Age of Climate Change—w/ Liz Thorpe, author of The Book of Cheese | 00:52:12 | |
Cheese can be both rarified and common. It is also an industry that impacts and is impacted by climate change. Today’s guest is author and cheese expert, Liz Thorpe. Liz is known for working her way up at New York City’s Murray’s Cheese shop, and taking it from a specialty shop to kiosks in Kroger stores across America, making cheese accessible and available to the American general public. Today, Liz serves as Founder of The People’s Cheese, a platform designed to teach a broader market why cheese matters and how to make it part of everyday life. She is also the author of The Book of Cheeseand The Cheese Chronicles. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Liz joins Ross to explain how she pushes back against an elitist interpretation of cheese, and explores how the American desire for choice and innovation translates to the cheese market in the US. Liz discusses how our industrialized food system contributes to climate change and describes how government subsidies and taxes often exacerbate the problem. Some cheeses are becoming more available, and others less. How many cheeses are going extinct due to climate change among other factors?! Listen in for Liz’s insight on the mission-driven nature of cheesemaking and learn how you can take advantage of the explosion of great cheese produced in the US in the last fifteen years. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources The Book of Cheese: The Essential Guide to Discovering Cheeses You’ll Love by Liz Thorpe Dan Saladino on Reversing Climate Change S3EP16 | |||
| 21 Oct 2022 | Techno-Economic Assessments of Carbon Removal Startups–w/ Grant Faber of Carbon-Based Consulting | 00:47:24 | |
Does the carbon removal tech you’re developing have a shot at being cost-competitive in the real world? How might you reduce the cost of a given CDR technology? And how do you convince government funders or investors that your carbon removal idea is viable? A techno-economic assessment or TEA answers these questions. So, what is involved in conducting a techno-economic assessment? And how might it help a startup improve the economic performance of its climate tech and maximize its impact? Grant Faber is Founder and President of Carbon-Based Consulting, a firm that offers techno-economic assessments, early-stage emissions accounting, and market research for startups, investors, and environmental nonprofits in the CDR and CCUS space. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Grant joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explain why an understanding of economics is crucial in carbon removal and how a TEA helps us determine the cost per tonne of carbon removal. Grant walks us through the concept of learning rates, discussing why different technologies have different learning rates, and how founders might apply these principles to reduce costs. Listen in for insight on the potentially arbitrary nature of life cycle assessments and learn how Grant can help your organization accelerate the commercialization of carbon removal technology. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources Global CO2 Initiative TEA Guidelines ‘Factors Affecting the Cost of Airplanes’ in the Journal of Aeronautical Sciences ‘Evaluating the Causes of Cost Reduction in Photovoltaic Modules’ in Energy Policy | |||
| 15 Mar 2022 | S3E7: Do compliance markets work? If so, how much?—w/ Mike Azlen, CEO of Carbon Cap Management LLP | 00:44:02 | |
We have talked at length on previous episodes about the flaws in compliance markets. And the team at Nori obviously believes in voluntary carbon markets, as we’re building one ourselves. But there’s a wide range of quality among voluntary markets, and the space is 1,000 times smaller than the compliance programs in progress around the world. So, have cap-and-trade markets contributed to a meaningful reduction in emissions in spite of their flaws? And are compliance markets the only way to address carbon emissions at scale? Michael Azlen is the Founder and CEO of Cabon Cap Management LLP and Co-Portfolio Manager of the World Carbon Fund. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Michael joins Ross and guest cohost Aldyen Donnelly to explain how he got interested in carbon as an asset class and share his take on the benefits of compliance markets. Aldyen offers insight on the two compliance market models, describing the problems associated with programs modeled after the SO2 Allowance Market—and why she prefers the framework of the Montreal Protocol. Listen in to understand how Michael thinks about regulating voluntary carbon markets and why he is optimistic about the global growth in compliance markets despite their imperfections. Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change Follow the Reversing Climate Change podcast on LinkedIn Climate-Crypto, COP26, and Carbon Accounting Rules on Reversing Climate Change S3EP1 Michael’s Paper on Carbon as an Emerging Asset Class The US Acid Rain SO2 Allowance Market Cross-State Air Pollution Rule The Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative California’s Cap-and-Trade Program | |||
| 30 May 2024 | 326: Confronting Our Shadow: Jung, The Vietnam War, & Climate Change—w/ Karl Marlantes, author | 01:12:30 | |
What is it like to go to war? What does the experience have to teach us, and could it in any way be a spiritual endeavor? What does the Temple of Mars have to teach us in a climate-changing world? Karl Marlantes is a Rhodes Scholar who put aside graduate studies at Oxford University to lead a Marine rifle platoon in Vietnam in 1968. He is featured extensively in the Ken Burns/Lynn Novick documentary series, The Vietnam War. His memoir, What It Is Like to Go to War, and novel, Matterhorn, address what we ask our nation’s young warriors to do from within a cultural environment that denies the multifaceted truth of what it means to be a warrior. His recent novels Deep River and Cold Victory address big questions of agency and what it means to recognize oneself as a historical actor. Is combat terrifying? Exhilarating? Mystical? Carnal? Is it everything all at once? If we only acknowledge the experience as negative, how might that cause repression and misunderstanding in a world unlikely to leave war behind permanently? If climate change is not successfully addressed as soon as possible, the geopolitical situation may become more rivalrous and difficult. We need to understand the nature of war, of our relationship to our shadow, in order to chart an honest course to a better future. Resources Ken Burns & Lynn Novick's The Vietnam War series Karl Marlantes' books: - What It Is Like to Go to War Connect with Nori Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram | |||
| 29 Jun 2023 | S3E47: The state of blue carbon in carbon markets—w/ Kevin Whilden of SeaTrees | 00:50:59 | |
Reversing Climate Change presents an enlightening conversation with Kevin Whilden, the co-founder and co-director of Sustainable Surf, where they delve into the captivating world of ocean restoration, the power of storytelling, and the remarkable phenomenon of blue carbon. Join Ross and Siobhan as they navigate the complexities of carbon offsetting, funding pathways for coastal and land-based restoration, and the profound impact of storytelling on driving environmental action. The spotlight of the discussion falls on blue carbon, which refers to the carbon stored within coastal and marine ecosystems. These ecosystems, encompassing vital habitats such as seaweed, mangroves, and seagrasses, exhibit extraordinary carbon sequestration capabilities, often surpassing their land-based counterparts. The significance of these blue carbon ecosystems lies not only in their capacity to store carbon but also in their vital role in supporting biodiversity and protecting coastal communities from climate-related hazards. Kevin Whilden emphasizes the deep-rooted connection humans have with the ocean and highlights how this connection can serve as a powerful catalyst for inspiring environmental action. By fostering a sense of affection and appreciation for the ocean, individuals are more likely to engage in efforts aimed at its restoration and protection. In addition to exploring blue carbon, the conversation delves into the funding mechanisms and pathways available for coastal restoration projects, shedding light on the role and history of carbon markets. Furthermore, the episode provides insights into the non-profit nature of SeaTrees and their collaborative efforts with the Scripps Institution of Oceanography to refine the measurement of Blue Carbon Projects. Discover how you can actively participate in SeaTrees' initiatives and contribute to the restoration of our ocean ecosystems. By listening to this episode, you will gain a deeper understanding of the importance of blue carbon, the role of storytelling in driving action, and the opportunities available to support SeaTrees' work. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources | |||
| 01 Jun 2023 | S3E43: How to get your garden ready for climate change—w/ Sally Morgan, coauthor of The Climate Change Garden | 00:46:09 | |
Making decisions for your garden and yard is often a yearly exercise. But for long-lived perennials, you need to start thinking about how climate change is going to impact your region. But don't start loading up on olive trees just yet... Today on the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Sally Morgan, coauthor of The Climate Change Garden: Down to Earth Advice for Growing a Resilient Garden, teaches host Ross Kenyon about how to cope with a simultaneously drier and wetter world. What happens when temperate zones become Mediterranean? And what happens to zones already Mediterranean?! Tune in this week to get your mind working on gardening in a climate-changed future. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources: Sally's Instagram (for ducks!) The Climate Change Garden: Down to Earth Advice for Growing a Resilient Garden | |||
| 12 May 2020 | S2E12: The Hottest New Literary Genre Is ‘Doomer Lit’—w/ Kate Knibbs, Senior Writer at Wired | 00:51:15 | |
Kate Knibbs is a Senior Writer at WIRED covering culture, and is the author of ‘The Hottest New Literary Genre is Doomer Lit.’ Today, Kate joins Ross to explain what inspired her conception of the new (sub)genre, discussing what differentiates doomer lit from cli-fi and how Jenny Offill’s new novel Weather functions as a mood piece on climate change.
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| 27 May 2025 | 350: Robert Höglund Presents: The Many Perils of Being Catalytic in a Carbon Accounting World | 01:04:33 | |
Should every dollar spent in carbon removal be maximally catalytic? Or is it okay to try to get a really good deal for your net-zero target? What even is this industry for?! Joining the show today—somehow for the first time ever—is Robert Höglund, a long-time CDR-watcher and writer; Co-Founder of the carbon removal's data repository-of-record, CDR.fyi, and the Head of CDR at Milkywire. Robert endures a barrage of questions about how his thinking on carbon removal has changed over the years, and him and host Ross Kenyon try to ferret out what it actually means to be catalytic. Is carbon accounting just for knuckleheads? The truth... may surprise you. This Episode's Sponsor Listen to the RCC episode with Lisett Luik from Arbonics Become a sponsor by emailing carbon.removal.strategies[at]gmail.com Use this affiliate link to use Descript's transcripting and podcast editing service Use this affiliate link to use Riverside to record your podcasts Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change Robert Höglund's website for his advisory work Robert Höglund's many articles | |||
| 13 Jul 2021 | S2E72: NFTs, carbon removal, & the music biz—w/ Imogen Heap, Grammy-winning artist | 00:45:32 | |
Data in the music industry is incredibly fragmented. There is no one consistent place to go for information about a work. It’s hard to know where songs are being played or who was involved in creating a piece of music. And this means that a lot of artists don’t get royalties for their work. What if blockchain technology is the answer? Imogen Heap is the Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter and record producer behind The Creative Passport, an identity management platform for music makers that runs on the blockchain. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Imogen joins Ross, Paul, and Evangeline to explain how the music industry’s challenges around crediting and payment inspired her interest in the blockchain space. She weighs in on why she launched a collection of non-fungible tokens (NFTs) to raise funds for The Creative Passport and how she devoted a portion of the proceeds to Nori to offset the carbon emissions associated with minting those NFTs. Listen in for Imogen’s vision of a more diverse commercial music industry where artists are empowered to host their own data and share it with others on the blockchain. Connect with Nori Join Nori’s book club on Patreon Sign up for Nori’s weekly Newsletter, The Nori Wrap Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Vinay Gupta’s Hexayurt Project | |||
| 11 Apr 2024 | 321: Metalplant's Debut! Enhanced Rock Weathering, Coproducing Nickel, & Additionality—w/ Eric Matzner, Cofounder of Metalplant | 00:53:00 | |
Carbon removal is often conceived of as only separating greenhouse gases from ambient air. But what if it also creates other valuable products in the process? Should they still be selling carbon credits? Does this competition make it harder for carbon removal companies that can't produce additional value streams? What are the trade-offs here, and is financial additionality the right place to intervene if intervention is even necessary? In this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon interviews Eric Matzner, an alumnus of Carbon Removal Newsroom and Cofounder of Project Vesta who has a new venture leaving stealth mode called Metalplant. This is Metalplant's podcast debut! This innovative project combines hyperaccumulator plants and enhanced rock weathering to extract nickel from soil and crushed rock while removing carbon from the air. Eric discusses the economics of co-producing nickel and carbon offsets, addressing the challenges of carbon removal scale-up, and his views on the importance of vertical integration in ensuring quality and cost control. The episode delves into Metalplant's initial operations in Albania, leveraging the country's rich olivine resources on non-arable land, and generating local employment. Much of the conversation focuses on a possibly looming intellectual crisis in carbon removal: what does the industry do when it realizes that many of its methodologies are co-producing value besides carbon? Will it try to find a way to square that with conventional applications of financial additionality, or will they abandon or amend additionality to make sure co-producers aren't held down while the world desperately needs them to scale their operations? So much to talk about, and there will almost certainly be more on this topic in the future! Resources Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram | |||
| 09 May 2024 | 324: My Octopus Teacher: How Rewilding Ourselves Could Heal the Planet—w/ Craig Foster, Oscar Winner and Author of Amphibious Soul | 00:54:16 | |
When the world feels increasingly tame, what does it mean to reclaim our wildness? Can we appreciate the benefits of industrial civilization while connecting with our evolutionary roots? Can we get ourselves back to the garden? In this poignant conversation, Academy Award-winning filmmaker Craig Foster shares insights from his experiences diving in the Great African Sea Forest and the inspiration behind his new book, Amphibious Soul: Finding the Wild in a Tame World. Host and Nori Co-Founder Ross Kenyon asks Craig some unanswered questions he has about My Octopus Teacher, the experience of fame from winning the 2021 Best Documentary Feature Oscar, whether evolution has prepared us for fame, and Craig's adjustment back to civilian life. Craig discusses the profound lessons learned from marine life, emphasizing the importance of a deep connection with nature and the critical role biodiversity plays in the survival of our planet. Ross and Craig discuss their various stories of interspecies communication and what it means to build a thread to a species and learn their language. They explore themes of kinship with nature, the significance of tracking as an ancient fundamental language, and the transformative power of cold water immersion. Plunge for the planet! The discussion also touches on Craig's marine conservation efforts through the Sea Change Project and introduces a unique multimedia aspect of his book that aims to enhance readers' connection to nature. Connect with Nori Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Carbon Removal Memes on LinkedIn Resources | |||
| 20 Nov 2020 | Brian von Herzen returns to chat marine permaculture & the documentary 2040 | 00:28:22 | |
The feature documentary 2040 poses this question: What would the world look like in 2040 if we embraced the best climate solutions already available to us? One such solution involves restoring ocean ecosystems through marine permaculture, a strategy that leverages kelp forests to drawdown CO2. Dr. Brian von Herzen serves as the Executive Director of the Climate Foundation, the organization using marine permaculture to regenerate life in seas and soils with the goal of reversing climate change in our lifetime. On this bonus episode of the podcast, Brian returns to the show to discuss his appearance in 2040 and explain what the Climate Foundation is working on now as they shift from R&D to building an industry. Brian introduces us to the fundamentals of marine permaculture, exploring its capacity to regenerate life in the ocean and feed billions of people in the process. Listen in for insight on becoming an ocean entrepreneur and learn about the potential for marine permaculture to drawdown carbon (at a remarkably low cost) and move us from fear to love—one kelp forest at a time. Connect with Nori Resources Email info@climatefoundation.org Brian on Reversing Climate Change EP034 The Art of Asking: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Let People Help by Amanda Palmer Permaculture Design Principles The One-Straw Revolution: An Introduction to Natural Farming by Masanobu Fukuoka The University of Tasmania’s Permaculture Research David King’s Piece on Climate Change Intervention in The Washington Post | |||
| 11 May 2021 | S2E63: Carbon removal in the Biden Administration—w/ Dr. Jan Mazurek, ClimateWorks Foundation | 00:51:56 | |
In order to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement, we can’t just reduce emissions. We have no choice but to add carbon dioxide removal (CDR) to the mix to keep global temperature rise under 2°C. So, what CO2 removal processes are in development? And what are governments and nonprofits doing to advocate for and fund carbon removal? Dr. Jan Mazurek serves as Senior Director at the ClimateWorks Foundation, where she leads the Carbon Dioxide Removal Fund. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Mazurek joins Ross to discuss what the Biden administration is doing to make ‘historic strides on climate’ and explain what carbon removal measures are left out of the Biden-Harris climate agenda. Dr. Mazurek explores why it’s politically beneficial to lead with rural resilience and job opportunities as opposed to carbon removal, describing how ClimateWorks grantees partner with unions to garner support for DAC. Listen in for Dr. Mazurek’s insight on the challenges associated with carbon pricing and find out why it’s crucial to engage front line communities in the discussion around carbon removal. Connect with Ross Join Nori's book club on Patreon Subscribe to Nori's Newsletter Email podcast@nori.com Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources The CDR Program at ClimateWorks Noah Deich & Giana Amador on RCC EP017 Dr. Julio Friedmann on RCC EP016 Giana Amador’s Blog on the Biden Budget National Academy of Sciences Workshop on Ocean CDR ClimateWorks’ Video on Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement Rhodium Group’s Study on Job Opportunities in DAC | |||
| 23 Sep 2022 | Climate art can be a beautiful thing—w/ Nicole Kelner, Artist-in-Residence at My Climate Journey | 00:42:02 | |
Communicating the science behind climate change is a challenge. But when you present these concepts in an artistic way and make the data beautiful, it’s more engaging and easier to understand. And more likely to inspire climate action. Nicole Kelner is Artist-in-Residence at My Climate Journey, where she communicates the complex challenges of climate change in a beautiful, accessible way. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nicole joins Ross, Siobhan, and Asa to explore why people are drawn to her watercolor representations of scientific data and explain her efforts to communicate climate concepts accurately. Nicole describes how she incorporates humor in her artwork and brainstorms ideas for a potential collaboration with the Nori Meme Lab. Listen in to understand how Nicole thinks about AI-generated art and learn how her work makes a meaningful difference in the fight against climate change. Connect with Nori Join Nori's Discord to hang out with other fans of the podcast and Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Carbon Removal Memes on Twitter Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram Resources ‘Seaweed Ecosystems May Not Mitigate CO2 Emissions’ in ICES Journal of Marine Science ‘Colors of Climate: Nicole Kelner’s Watercolors Bring Calm to Images of Climate Change’ in The Verge | |||
| 01 Feb 2021 | Climate fintech, neobanks, & banking for good—w/ Ravi Mikkelsen, cofounder of ATMOS | 00:49:18 | |
Did you know that Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Citi are among the biggest funders of fossil fuel projects in the world? Would you rather leverage your money to fight climate change? What if you could move your money to an entity that builds its lending portfolio around things like clean energy, regenerative agriculture, and direct air capture? Ravi Mikkelsen is the Cofounder of ATMOS Financial, a digital banking solution dedicated to funding a rapid transition to the clean economy. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Ravi joins Ross to discuss the growing cohort of impact companies at the intersection of climate and FinTech and explain how neobanks like ATMOS fit into the ecosystem. Ravi shares the market research around why consumers choose a bank, challenging us to consider what kinds of projects our financial institution funds and how big banks might transition their lending portfolios away from fossil fuels. Listen in for insight around the benefits of banking with ATMOS and find out why you don’t have to sacrifice user experience or pay more to do the right thing. George Bailey for the win! Connect with Nori Resources Email ravi@joinatmos.com | |||
| 03 Dec 2019 | 103: The critical left & carbon removal—with Dr. Holly Jean Buck of UCLA | 00:58:40 | |
Dr. Holly Jean Buck is a postdoctoral research fellow at UCLA’s Institute of the Environment and Sustainability and the author of After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair and Restoration. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Buck joins Ross to discuss how her take on climate solutions differs from traditional left-leaning views, explaining the aspects of geoengineering that should be in the hands of the people and the risks associated with Nori’s premise of treating carbon as a commodit
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| 02 Mar 2025 | I Made AI-Generated Art and Now I’m Wondering What Is Art Even for? | 00:15:04 | |
My podcasting editing platform Descript informed me of a new integration with ChatGPT where it would make me a custom video. I complied in perhaps the most annoying and meta way possible. That video exists at the end of this podcast, but first, I have thoughts I'd like to share on what this process made me feel and think about. I've heard so many takes on artificial intelligence and art, and I have several of my own that I don't often hear reflected. Mine pertain to the sociological purpose of art, and of developing aesthetic talent on the road to greatness. Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change Use my referral link to become a user of Descript for podcast editing, transcription, and now AI-generated video content. | |||
| 17 Apr 2020 | Regenerative farming & (re)discovering your heritage—w/ Ethan Soloviev of High Falls Farm | 00:34:22 | |
Ethan Soloviev is the coauthor of Regenerative Enterprise and Levels of Regenerative Agriculture and co-owner of High Falls Farm, a multi-enterprise farm in the Hudson Valley of New York that aims toward regenerative principles and practices. On this bonus episode, Ethan joins Ross to introduce us to the Jewish idea of shmita, as well as his attempts to learn from Irish/Celtic and indigenous North American agricultural traditions as well.
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| 08 Jun 2021 | S2E67: The Carbon Takeback Obligation & carbon removal—w/ Margriet Kuijper | 00:48:29 | |
What would happen if businesses were expected or even required to store a tonne of carbon for every tonne of carbon they produce? A Carbon Takeback Obligation is a policy framework that aims to make that the new standard. Today we learn more about how such a system might operate. Margriet Kuijper is a former civil engineer for Shell, where she focused on the development of carbon capture and storage projects. Today, she serves as an independent consultant working on a Carbon Takeback Obligation, otherwise known as CTBO. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Margriet joins Ross to share the simple idea behind a Carbon Takeback Obligation and explain how it addresses the common concerns associated with oil and gas carbon capture projects. Margriet discusses how CTBO makes polluters pay to clean up their emissions and describes how CTBO policy could work in tandem with a carbon tax or emissions trading system, incentivizing both emitters and producers to find solutions together. Listen in to understand Margriet’s take on the role of offsets under CTBO and in a net-zero world, and learn how businesses would benefit from the long-term policy certainty of a Carbon Takeback Obligation. Connect with Nori Join Nori's book club on Patreon Join Nori's weekly newsletter, The Wrap Email podcast@nori.com Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Eli Mitchell-Larson on Reversing Climate Change S2EP62 Europe’s Extended Producer Responsibility Policy Making Climate Policy Work by Danny Cullenward and David G. Victor | |||
| 15 Jun 2023 | S3E45: Mixing Fast and Slow Carbon: The Nori Blended Tonne—w/ Radhika Moolgavkar, Nori's Head of Supply & Methodology | 00:33:47 | |
The carbon removal industry and science have evolved greatly since Nori was founded in 2017. In this special Reversing Climate Change episode, Nori's Head of Supply and Methodology Radhika Moolgavkar, joins host Ross Kenyon to talk through what’s changed, what’s still the same, and how Nori is evolving with a new net-zero-friendly ‘blended tonne’ that they just published a new whitepaper on this week.
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| 03 May 2022 | S3E12: The bleeding edge of regenerative agriculture—w/ Jesse Smith of White Buffalo Land Trust | 00:55:28 | |
What is the gap between what farmers know now and what they need to know to farm more regeneratively? How do we close that gap? What is the best way to advocate for the adoption of regenerative agriculture practices? Jesse Smith is the Director of Land Stewardship at White Buffalo Land Trust, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit dedicated to practicing, promoting and perfecting the principles and practices of regenerative ag. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jesse joins Ross to explain how WBLT furthers regenerative ag through the development of products, training programs, and scientific research. Jesse shares WBLT’s focus on teaching the integration of annual and perennial cropping with animal systems and offers advice on attracting young engineers, scientists, and creative artists to the regenerative ag space. He goes on to discuss the benefit of ecosystem service payments, describing what he views as the unfair advantage producers have in regions with a higher potential for carbon sequestration and what markets like Nori can do about it. Listen in for Jesse’s insight on using distributed ledger technology and blockchain to support regenerative ag and learn how you can support White Buffalo Land Trust and its consumer-facing brand, Figure Ate Foods. Connect with Nori Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Leah Penniman on Reversing Climate Change S2EP57 Center for Regenerative Agriculture at Jalama Canyon Ranch California’s Healthy Soils Program The NRCS Conservation Stewardship Program USDA Local Food Promotion Program How a Warming Climate Is Changing Wine on Reversing Climate Change S3EP10 | |||
| 02 Apr 2025 | How I Got Into Climate Work and Carbon Removal | 00:02:44 | |
If only there were a podcast that broke down all of the ways climate professionals broke into their industry... Michael Gold is a communications expert and consultant at Word Clouds Consulting and the host of the new podcast, Climate Swings. This show traces guests' stories and explains how they landed a job working on one of humanity's most significant problem sets. Check out the episode of Climate Swings I did with Michael retelling my odyssey into climate work here! Be sure to subscribe to his show, give it a great rating and review, and send it to a friend trying to come join us. Also, a special thank you to 9Zero for serendipitously facilitating our connection and to Terra.do for helping Michael do what he does! Resources Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change "From PhD Dropout to Carbon Removal Comedian", the episode of Climate Swings I did with Michael | |||
| 16 Mar 2021 | S2E55: Gather: Reclaiming indigenous foodways—w/ Twila Cassadore, Nephi Craig, & Sammy Gensaw | 01:31:34 | |
There is a growing movement among Native Americans to reclaim their spiritual, cultural, and political identities. And restoring indigenous food practices is central to this work. The new documentary Gather follows several indigenous leaders as they work toward food sovereignty, demonstrating the hope and healing power of traditional food. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, three of the people featured in the film join Ross to discuss how they got involved in Gather and share their work around reclaiming indigenous foodways with the world. First, traditional food forager and educator Twila Cassadore explains the importance of food sovereignty in the context of her work with the Western Apache Diet Project. Then, Apache & Navajo restauranteur and executive chef Nephi Craig of Café Gozhóó describes his journey through classical French cuisine back to Native food, exploring the power of indigenous food practices in healing chemical dependency and generational grief. Finally, Yurok fisherman and Ancestral Guard founder Samuel Gensaw III offers insight on the Fish Wars of the 1970s and his ongoing fight to protect future generations through indigenous food. Listen in to understand why he believes indigenous values are key in sustaining life on earth and learn what you can do to support Twila, Nephi, and Sammy’s work. Connect with Nori Join Nori's book club on Patreon Email podcast@nori.com Listen to our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Tribal Food Sovereignty Advancement Initiative Twila Cassadore at the Quivir Coalition Native American Culinary Association | |||
| 07 Apr 2020 | S2E7: Why is soil carbon measurement so tricky?—w/ Dr. Jane Zelikova of Carbon180 | 01:00:57 | |
Dr. Jane Zelikova is the Chief Scientist at Carbon180, a carbon removal think tank on a mission to fundamentally rethink carbon, and cofounder of 500 Women Scientists, a nonprofit dedicated to transforming the leadership, diversity, and public engagement in science. On this episode of the Reversing Climate Change, Jane joins Ross and Christophe to discuss the challenges of measuring the carbon content of soil and the projections around how much CO2 we can sequester with improved management practices.
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| 08 Dec 2020 | S2E42: The national security implications of climate change—w/ Dr. Rod Schoonover | 00:57:53 | |
We have explored, at length, the basket of biophysical stressors climate change could produce. And we’ve looked at how floods, droughts, tropical cyclones, ocean acidification, coral degradation (and the list goes on and on) might impact our food security and lead to the displacement of a lot of people. But what does the climate crisis mean for national security? How does the intelligence community think about climate change? Dr. Rod Schoonover is a member of The Center for Climate & Security Advisory Board. He is also the Founder and CEO of the Ecological Futures Group, and an Adjunct Professor in the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University. He served in the US Intelligence Community for ten years as the Director of Environment and Natural Resources at the National Intelligence Council and Senior Analyst in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the US Department of State. On this episode, Dr. Schoonover joins Ross to discuss the foreign policy goals of the US and share his concerns around the current administration’s failure to call out anti-democratic values. He explains how the suppression of his written testimony for the House Intelligence Committee regarding the national security implications of climate change led to his resignation from the State Department. Listen in for Dr. Schoonover’s insight on what the US government should do to address the climate crisis and learn what could happen (from a security perspective) if we don’t take action on climate change. Connect with Nori: Resources: Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research Dr. Schoonover’s June 2019 Testimony for the House Intelligence Committee ‘White House Tried to Stop Climate Science Testimony, Documents Show’ in The New York Times Dr. Schoonover’s Op-Ed in The New York Times Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103 Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus Matthew Yglesias on Reversing Climate Change S2EP35 All Hell Breaking Loose: The Pentagon’s Perspective on Climate Change by Michael T. Klare Sea Power: The History and Geopolitics of the World’s Oceans by Admiral James Stavridis, USN (Ret.) | |||
| 05 Oct 2021 | Will Dessert Survive the Climate Crisis?—w/ Caroline Saunders of The Sustainable Baker | 00:37:54 | |
Climate change is already affecting our food systems. But have you ever considered how rising temperatures might impact access to the pastries you love? What if you could no longer enjoy a croissant with your coffee in the morning? Or indulge in a slice of cake on special occasions? Caroline Saunders is the host of the Sustainable Baker podcast, coauthor of Craft Beef, former chief-of-staff at Grist and soon-to-be student in the pastry track at Le Cordon Bleu in Paris. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Caroline joins Ross to share her interest in developing sustainable recipes and explain how her career path reflects her passions for climate and dessert. Caroline describes her concerns around climate change and the future of dessert, discussing what spices are at risk and how we can help grains adapt to rising temperatures. Listen in for Caroline’s insight on what it looks like to bake without dairy and find out how to make your favorite desserts more sustainably! Connect with Nori Join Nori's book club on Patreon Sign up for Nori's weekly newsletter, The Nori Wrap Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Email podcast@nori.com Resources The Sustainable Baker on Instagram J. Kenji Lopez-Alt on Instagram Nancy Silverton on Chef’s Table The Land Institute on Reversing Climate Change EP062 | |||
| 17 Jul 2018 | 31: Aldyen Donnelly on Why Carbon Pricing Hasn't Worked So Far | 00:46:55 | |
If we don’t learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. Yet when it comes to reducing carbon in the atmosphere, the current solutions fail to recognize what has worked in the past. So, what can we learn from the pollution reduction success stories in our history? What can those successes tell us about the shortcomings of existing strategies like cap-and-trade and carbon taxes? Why do our current methods of carbon pricing fail so spectacularly?
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| 14 May 2025 | 348: Is a Lack of Open Science Holding Carbon Removal Back?—w/ Freya Chay & Tyler Kukla of CDRXIV & CarbonPlan | 00:47:49 | |
Seemingly everyone in carbon removal says they want more data transparency and the sharing of scientific results. Why isn't open science more present, and how can we get more of it? Could a pre-print server for CDR be part of the solution? Today is the official launch of CDRXIV ("cee-dee-archive"), a new initiative from CarbonPlan that aims to spur scientific conversations within the carbon removal community. On this episode, Freya Chay (the CDR Program Lead at CarbonPlan and a Member of the Advisory Board to CDRXIV) and Tyler Kukla (a CDR Research Scientist at CarbonPlan and the Content Manager for CDRXIV) are on the show to explain how pre-print servers drive progress in other scientific fields, why CDR needs one, and how it may change our industry. If you'd like to submit data and/or a paper for publication to CDRXIV, please email hello@cdrxiv.org, or visit their submission portal here. This Episode's Sponsor Listen to the RCC episode with Lisett Luik from Arbonics Become a sponsor by emailing carbon.removal.strategies[at]gmail.com Use this affiliate link to use Descript's transcripting and podcast editing service Use this affiliate link to use Riverside to record your podcasts Resources | |||
| 20 Oct 2020 | S2E35: Matthew Yglesias tells us why climate people should root for One Billion Americans | 01:03:11 | |
Can you advocate for climate solutions and dramatic population growth at the same time? Or are the two ideas mutually exclusive? Matthew Yglesias argues that while electoral politics is a zero-sum game, policy is not. And any two priorities can be reconciled to craft a win-win, provided both sides accept the premise that we need to take action on climate change. Matthew Yglesias is the cofounder of Vox, host of The Weeds Podcast, journalist and author of the national bestseller, One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Matt joins Ross and Paul to discuss the premise of his book, explaining why it’s crucial for the US to grow its population and commit to keeping our #1 status in the world. He shares his liberal approach to this conservative idea, describing how immigration makes us stronger and what we can do to support families with children. Matthew goes on to offer insight on the dysfunction of American federalism, discussing how a shared goal would create more constructive politics, and why it’s shortsighted to invoke climate change as an argument against population growth. Listen in for Matthew’s take on why we need right of center solutions to climate change and learn how we can prioritize both population growth and climate solutions in a way that moves America forward. One Billion Americans: The Case for Thinking Bigger by Matthew Yglesias The Idea of a European Superstate by Glyn Morgan Bryan Caplan on Reversing Climate Change S2EP2 Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration by Bryan Caplan ‘Made in Hollywood, Censored by Beijing’ in PEN America Brad Plumer at The New York Times Matthew on Conversations with Tyler EP104 Getting to Yes: How to Negotiate Agreement Without Giving In by Roger Fisher The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama David Roberts on Reversing Climate Change S2EP3 | |||