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Introducing Spacious Creative - Episode 1: Our Creative Roots11 Jul 202400:41:13

Hello! I'm excited to introduce you to the first episode of a brand new collaborative podcast with my friend Heather Doyle Fraser over on our new substack, The Spacious Creative. In this limited series podcast, we'll explore the topic of creativity from all sorts of angles. If you are a creative person or especially if you are a creative person "in hiding," I know you'll get great value from listening to our conversations on creativity. In this episode, we break down our histories of being creative, including times when we both went into hiding as creatives. We'll be releasing episodes every Thursday through the end of August! Also be sure to register for our upcoming workshop on July 24! Click here to register.

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In Episode 1 of Spacious Creative, Cindy Ingram and Heather Doyle Fraser explore how creativity has shaped and shown up in their lives. For both, being creative isn’t something that “happened” to them; it is an identity that has been with them as far back as they can remember: early childhood. During this time, creating wasn’t hard or challenging—it was a joy and a comfort and a place of freedom.

This beginning place of ease and contentment didn’t remain static. After exploring these beginning experiences with creativity, Heather and Cindy walk us through how they navigated being creative over their lives: the natural ebbs and flows and the imposed expansions and contractions that we all experience as creatives, artists, and writers.

What we experience in our early lives is often indicative of the passions and pursuits that enthrall us as adults, though, if we can allow ourselves to follow and trust those inclinations. We all have a story of creativity and how we began our creative journey, and although Heather and Cindy’s journeys might have different details, the broad brushstrokes might bear a striking resemblance to your experiences. Here are some of the brushstrokes these two creatives explore in their conversation:

  • Early childhood creativity had a clear impact on lifelong artistic pursuits.

  • Inspiration came in many forms and there are clear and distinct childhood memories, like drawing, painting, making up stories, “writing” before you could write, and arranging spaces to feel comfortable and safe.

  • The influence of encouragement and discouragement on sharing creativity and artistic endeavors.

  • Navigating perfectionism and its effect on the creative process.

  • Using art to process emotions and experiences during adolescence

  • Personal stories and reflections on the role of creativity in self-expression and growth.

  • We sometimes stop creating for ourselves when our society deems it impractical, but we can come back to these endeavors over time when we begin to trust ourselves and our creativity again.

To register for our workshop on July 24, Trust Your Why: Your Creative Comfort Zone Needs You, click this link!

Click here to subscribe to our substack!

on coping, compassion, and accommodation with Melissa Cox29 May 202401:04:37

In this engaging podcast episode, Melissa Cox joins me to discuss the artwork Coping by Nicole Eisenman. 

Here's a bulleted list of what we discussed in this episode, thanks to our friend Chat GPT.

  • The feeling of being worn down by internal struggles or long-term challenges
  • Reflections on hope and despair, and the isolation it can bring
  • The importance of representation and seeing possibilities for different choices
  • Personal anecdotes illustrating the impact of representation on decision-making
  • Discovering one's neurodiversity and the journey of self-acceptance and accommodation
  • The need for radical acceptance and compassion for oneself and others
  • Coping mechanisms and harm reduction strategies in facing life's challenges
  • Externalizing internal struggles through creative mediums like art and fan fiction
  • The evolving nature of long-term friendships and the acceptance of change
  • The therapeutic value of art and conversation in processing emotions and experiences
  • The role of verbal processing and receiving feedback in personal growth and problem-solving
  • Understanding the dynamics of evolving friendships and accepting change over time
  • Embracing compassion for oneself and others, and reframing past judgments
  • Using art as a medium for self-reflection, externalizing internal struggles, and seeking new perspectives
  • Recognizing the importance of community in reducing isolation and realizing shared experiences
  • Setting explicit boundaries and needs for personal well-being
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exploring internal parts and shadows in Naudline Pierre's painting17 May 202400:49:06
In this episode, I chat about what I have been up to, tell you about the new(ish) format for the show, and explore a work by my favorite artist, Naudline Pierre, through the lenses of Internal Family Systems and Shadow Work.   Links:
How Art Teaches Us to Embrace the Discomfort of Vulnerability with Dr. Jamie English04 Dec 202301:06:01

In this episode, Dr. Jamie English, a licensed professional counselor who specializes in body acceptance, and I engage in a deep exploration of two artworks side-by-side: Self-Portrait Naked with my Mother II by Chantal Joffe and The Opening by Aleah Chapin. Both artworks are featured in my new book, Art Is About Being Whole: A Memoir. The conversation delves into body image, vulnerability, and the relationship between a mother and daughter portrayed in the art. We analyze the body language, symbolism, and emotions conveyed in each painting, drawing connections to personal experiences and societal expectations. The discussion unfolds into a reflection on self-acceptance, the journey toward embracing one's flaws, and the power of art in facilitating introspection. 

To sign up for the Art as Oracle workshop, visit this link.

To join the next Art Connection Circle, visit this link.

To see the artworks and links for the episode, visit the show notes at this link.

The Sacredness, Duality, and Symbolism of Nature: A Exploration of Night with Madalyn Gregory13 Nov 202301:11:22

Before I transitioned the podcast to its new format as Art and Self with Cindy Ingram, some of my all-time favorite episodes were the ones where I had captivating art conversations with my dear friend, Madalyn. We'd dive deep into a single piece, exploring its intricacies, and unraveling the layers that make art truly fascinating. The goal was to not just talk about art but to show the depth and complexity it holds, offering listeners a glimpse of the incredible possibilities within the world of art. It's all about the power of showing rather than telling—a theme that's been resonating with me lately, especially in connection to my new book.

To mark the book's release, I brought Madalyn back to the podcast after a two-year hiatus, and it was an absolute joy. We delved into the enchanting painting Night by Natalie Wadlington, one of the artworks featured in my new book, Art Is About Being Whole: A Memoir.

In this episode, we explore:

  • The sacredness, duality, and symbolism of nature
  • Themes of curiosity, authenticity, wholeness, and joy in simple moments
  • A journey back to childhood wonder and the importance of embracing our true selves
  • Reflections on societal expectations, productivity, and the art of resistance through self-care

For links to the artworks and other resources we mention, head over to the shownotes at this link.

also be sure to get my new book, Art Is About Being Whole: A Memoir!

How a Boring Textbook Transformed into a Courageous, Artistic Memoir with Heather Doyle Fraser02 Nov 202301:06:04

The creation of my new book, Art Is About Being Whole: A Memoir, was a pretty epic journey from start to finish. When I first started the book, it was going to be an art education book, but somewhere along the way, in both little and big moments, the book morphed into what it is now, which is a soulful, poetic, artistic exploration of not only the story of my growth but of the basic human emotions and experiences that so many of us share.

I could not have ever created such a heart-wrenching and incredible work of art without the help of my amazing publisher and book coach, Heather Doyle Fraser of Compassionate Mind Collaborative. I recently sat down with Heather, and we reminisced on the whole creation process as we highlighted those big, transitional moments that sent the book from a research-based textbook to a poetic, artistic memoir.

Here are just some of the highlights of our conversation:

  • the importance of compassion in the writing process

  • what it was like to relive and reprocess all of the emotions of my past

  • how the books I read during the writing process influenced this book

  • how poetry can express deep emotions without explanation getting in the way

  • how the addition of poetry unlocked creative expression and creative freedom in ways I never could have ever predicted

  • a reminder to stay true to and to always start with the art

  • the resistance to and then acceptance of including my own art in the book

This conversation with Heather was so fun, and it was so great to sit and outline the entire process. Because, you know, with every artwork, with every poem, with every book, with every theater production, with every dance, there is always a story of its creation, the support systems, and creator. 

But what’s so exciting is—this book’s story? It’s not over. It now continues with you, the reader. I can’t control the process from here on out, but I can’t wait to see what happens as this creation touches lives across the globe, starting with you.

To continue the magic of Art Is About Being Whole in your own life, get the book at this link. I know there are treasures, insights, and wholeness waiting for you between the lines of this book.

 

A Soulful Glimpse Inside Art Is About Being Whole's 'The Two Fridas' Chapter31 Oct 202300:29:26

I'm excited to announce that my new book, Art Is About Being Whole: A Memoir, is now live and ready to buy! Click this link to get your copy.

Today, I’m thrilled to give you a sneak peek into one of my favorite chapters! Okay, it’s tough to pick a favorite chapter of the book as each one took me on such an emotional journey, but my interpretation of Frida Kahlo’s The Two Fridas, in conjunction with my shame, social anxiety, and discovery of my power as a teacher holds a very special place both in my heart and in the development of this book. 

In this special episode, I read both The Two Fridas chapter. I teared up many times when recording this, so I hope when you listen, you’ll feel the love that went into the creation of this book. 

Click here to see The Two Fridas by Frida Kahlo.

 

 

Growing with Progress: Ascending the Staircase of Self-Discovery with Carol LeBlanc16 Oct 202301:02:20

In this episode, I have the pleasure of welcoming my friend and colleage Carol LeBlanc from Love Your Numbers Now as my guest, and together, we dive into the thought-provoking artwork Grow With Progress by Erik Johansson. This surreal photograph depicting a woman ascending a staircase inspired a chapter in my upcoming book and it offers a powerful metaphor for personal growth, self-discovery, and the pursuit of wholeness. As Carol and I unpack the layers of meaning within the artwork, we explore essential themes like self-trust, shedding societal expectations, and embracing expansion. We draw striking parallels between the artwork's message and real-life experiences, from navigating business endeavors to the complexities of parenting. We highlight the liberating power of embodying our truth and speaking up, even when it requires courageous conversations. It's a conversation that beautifully aligns with the overarching theme of my book, Art Is About Being Whole: A Memoir coming soon on October 31! 

For pictures of the artwork and the links we discussed in the show, head over to the show notes at this link.

P.S. Count how many times one of us brought up the Barbie movie! That was unexpected! 

Unveiling Our Hidden Artists: How We Ditched The Rules And Embraced Exploration with Margaret McDonald09 Oct 202301:00:24

In this episode, Margaret and I, both passionate art educators, open up about our own artistic journeys. We get real about the struggle of finding our artistic identities as teachers, grappling with imposter syndrome, of not being “good enough” or niched enough, and the “shoulds” that help us back from embracing our own art. But what we have found on the other end after letting all of that go is freedom of expression, the joy and satisfaction of making art for us and no one else, and the safety and nervous-system regulation that art provides us that we knew as children but forgot as we grew up. 

It's been all about letting the process guide us and having the curiosity, the playfulness, and the consistent practice lead us to whatever comes next.

I know you’ll love this conversation.

Get the links to stuff we talked about on this episode on the shownotes at this link. 

Introducing Art Around the World in 30 Days - July 2023 - Day 1 - Parade by Mequitta Ahuja03 Jul 202300:36:24
  In the episode, I introduce the Art Around the World Series, invite you to explore the work of art on your own, discuss the many interpretations possible, share a little about the artist, tell a story about my own connection to it, share a compare/contrast opportunity, and give ideas for teaching it in your classroom!   Today's video is a little longer than the rest will be because I introduced the series at the beginning a little and had a very personal story about the artwork to share!   Sign up to receive email notifications for each featured artwork this month at https://artclasscurator.com/aatw   Click here to see the artwork: Parade (diptych) by Mequitta Ahuja.   Watch on Facebook or YouTube
Exploring the System of Self: Dissociative Identity Disorder and Art with Geoffa Fells15 Jun 202300:45:34

After interviews, I often say "wow that was my favorite one" and looking back I have a lot of favorites, but this one may be THE favorite. My conversation with artist and musican, Geoffa Fells, about art and emotion and neurodiversity and music and how all of those intersect still give me chills when I think about it a month after having this conversation. I am so excited for you to hear it!

For links to all of the artworks featured as well as Geoffa's contact links, head over to the shownotes at this link. 

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Geeking Out About Art Philosophy (Part 2) with Dr. Kate Wurtzel25 May 202300:50:08

After episode 117 with Kate Wurtzel, we realized we had been looking at a cropped image, and because of this we had more to say! In this episode, we have a blast geeking out about art philosophy, the idea of the artist as genius, the artist as a healer, following intuition, experimentation, and much more. I had so much fun talking to Kate again, and I hope you enjoy this conversation with her as much as I did.

Word of the Year Update #6: Giving Myself Permission to Fully Listen to the Call to Create18 May 202300:27:41

This week I've gotten the delightful experience to witness the joy of creation through my 13-year-old daughter. That, plus my musing on the book Rest is Resistance by Tricia Hersey, have made me think more about the ways in which I am not following my own advice and how I can give myself a deeper permission to create without the burden of capitalism on my shoulders. For links discussed on today's episode, visit the show notes at this link.

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Surviving Uncertainty and How to Pull It All Together with the Arts with Amanda Koonlaba11 May 202300:56:44

Amanda Koonlaba is a blogger and art teacher who has been running her blog “Party in the Art Room” for more than a decade. In this episode, Amanda and Cindy discuss One Woman Show by Celeste Rapone through our lenses as mothers, educators, and creatives. As former art teachers, we talk about the importance of arts integration and how art can help face uncertainty. 

For links to all of the artworks featured as well as Amanda's contact links, head over to the shownotes at this link. 

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Word of the Year Update #5 - The Benefits of Knowing Yourself Plus Being on the Other Side of the Artist/Viewer Equation04 May 202300:50:19

I've been talking about it for a while, but I'm finally sharing my painting I made! In this episode, I talk about the vulnerable process of sharing and creating this painting as well as what benefits I get from knowing myself better.

Click here to visit the shownotes to view my painting! 

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How to Examine Our Stories and Release Patterns That No Longer Serve Us with Dr. Charryse Johnson21 Apr 202301:01:03

Daniel Popper's Chasm is one of my favorite works of art as there are sooooo many rich, personal connections to be found. I was delighted Dr. Charryse Johnson, therapist and author of Expired Mindsets: Releasing Patterns That No Long Serve You Well, chose it as the artwork to focus on. We talked about a lot in our discussion from how we change and grow as we age, to how we adopted stories from a variety of sources that aren't really who we are, how we can explore our own inner selves, and how we can  break away from any 'expired mindsets' that may be holding us back.

For links to all of the artworks featured as well as Dr. Johnson's book and social media, head over to the shownotes at this link. 

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How to Partner with Your Body and Spirit to Make Art with Dr. Kate Wurtzel06 Apr 202300:58:13

We flip the script on the podcast this week as my guest, Dr. Kate Wurtzel, chooses and presents the art choices. t was so fun to have it flipped on me, and the artworks she chose are right up my alley. I absolutely loved this delicious conversation about painting through the lens of Byzantium by Jenny Saville. Kate definitely made me want to paint during this conversation! See all of the art choices and links to things we discussed over at the shownotes on artandself.com.

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Word of the Year Update #4: How to Conquer the Need to Be Perfect by Creating Garbage23 Mar 202300:14:54

In this episode, I talk about how I am working to overcome my perfectionism in my art, writing, and business--taking inspiration from Simone Seol's Garbage Post Challenge (Joyful Marketing Podcast Episode #160) and Anne Lamott's "Shitty First Drafts" (in her book Bird by Bird) 

Perfectionism stops creativity in its tracks. In this episode, I discuss how I have taken these messages to heart by taking time to experiment, to play, and to create without any expectations of the outcome. When we let go of our need to be perfect, we open ourselves up to our authentic selves, and this is where the magic lies.

 

For links and more info about the Art and Self podcast, check out the shownotes at https://artandself.com/116-create-garbage

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Capturing Essence and the Duality of Old and New with Kelly Ferguson16 Mar 202301:05:33

In this episode, photographer Kelly Ferguson and I discuss the artwork Desire by Miss Meatface aka Kat Toronto. This artwork captures the complexities of identity in a single photograph. In the conversion, we discuss the layers of influence a person goes through as they express their identity, themes of blending in and standing out, how to capture a person’s true essence on camera, and the freedom of expression of womanhood across generations. 

Get more episodes and information on the show notes at https://artandself.com

 

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How the Energy of Horses Breaks You Open To Reveal Your True Self With Lyn Carpenter02 Mar 202300:52:04

There are moments in life that you walk away from forever changed. One of the most magical, forever changed moments in my life happened thanks to my guest today, Lyn Carpenter.

Lyn is an Equine Gestaltist who helps women discover their authentic selves and recover from people pleasing through coaching and a healing environment filled with a herd of horses.

The majesty of horses and their connection with humans has been captured in artwork for generations. It's easy to understand why when you experience their incredible ability to sense when the words you say do not match your heart.

See the artwork we discussed and learn more in the show notes.

How I Am Uncovering Long Forgotten Parts of My Artistic Identity23 Feb 202300:20:19

Word of the Year Update #3 - In this episode, I share about a few powerful conversations that cracked me open and helped me tap into parts of my creative identity that I had long forgotten.

Also, check out the beginning of the episode for some updates about the podcast moving forward and my availabilty for coaching!

Interested in checking out coaching, schedule a free discovery call at https://artandself.com/discovery 

Perspective Lenses: Is Life Happening to You or Are You in Control? with Dr. Michelle Gordon16 Feb 202301:06:11

There is so little in the world that we can control. All we really have power over is our own actions, reactions, and the thoughts inside our head. That doesn't seem like much in a world moving at the speed of scrolling screens with opinions and expectations at every turn.

But it's everything we need and more.

The covid pandemic changed all of us. Some in big ways. Some in small ways. For Michelle Gordon, life before 2020 looks very different to life now. She left a career in medicine and discovered who she was beneath society's shoulds and shouldn'ts.

In this episode, we discussed the power of perspective through the artwork When We Return You Won't Recognize Us by Glen Brown. 

How do you get your voice back? How do you get rid of shame? How do you learn to love yourself?

What changes when you realize everything you need is already inside of you?

Get links and more in the show notes.

Authenticity Unmasked: Celebrating and Reflecting on Autism Through Art with Chris Bonnello09 Feb 202301:00:30

We all want to belong, but what happens when the world doesn't accept who you are?

All of us wear (often uncomfortable, ill-fitting masks), but the masks society tells autistic people to wear degrades their authenticity and ability to recognize and be themselves.

Chris Bonnello is an author, activist, and autism advocate. Together, we discussed neurodivergency through the artwork Mask the Decay by Mitch Christian.

Chris talks about how autistic masking feels for him, radical acceptance, his writing journey, and what the world is missing out on by asking autistic people to deny their full selves.

See the artworks and get all the links mentioned in the show notes.

Word of the Year Update #2 - How do I handle the highs and lows of creativity?03 Feb 202300:22:37

Thoughts on being an artist this week after a few tortured days. Having compassion for the creative process. Showing up for my practice even when it is hard. Giving myself the support to work through it.

How Musical Theatre Captures the Heart and Soul of Our Times with Josh Kreitzman02 Feb 202301:13:22

Though music has been a part of theatrical arts since ancient times, modern Western musical theatre was born in America. Josh Kreitzman, my guest today, argues that musicals are the best art form, and I'm inclined to agree with him. How often do you get to witness art as it is happening and be a part of its creation with a room of people?

Musicals are fully body sensory experience and the stories they tell have always been a reflection of the triumphs and heartbreaks of life. Music is a language beyond borders—how better to capture the heart and soul of our times?

In this episode, we discuss Prayer from Come From Away by Irene Sankoff and David Hein. The musical tells the real life story of the Newfoundland town of Gander during the week following the September 11th attacks when 7,000 passengers were ordered to land unexpectedly at Gander International Airport.

We discuss the power of musicals, the lasting effects of grief and trauma (even when we get up to go to work the next morning), the difference between being in an audience and being a viewer, and how tragedy can bring good.

See the links to the videos of the songs we discuss at the shownotes. 

Word of the Year Update #1 - Why I Was Inspired To Choose "ARTIST" as My 2023 Word of the Year26 Jan 202300:45:47

They say that those who can't do teach. Unsurprisingly, teachers hate that phrase. It isn't true. And yet, for so much of my life, I believed it.

I could be an art teacher, but I would never be an artist.

I resisted the label mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally. My version of being an artist wasn't worthy.

But something has shifted. I'm finally learning what it means to be an artist and to live my life as an artist. It's playful, risky, experimental. It's not about being good. It's about the process.

Through the magic of attention, daily practice, and community, I've opened myself up to what the world has to teach me.

And that is why my 2023 Word of the Year is ARTIST. Join me on this year-long journey of connection and creativity as I share my insights on what it means to live life as an artist.

If you'd like to experience the magic of making art in community, join me in The Creativity Cocoon.

See the show notes at this link.

3 2 1 Lift Off: On Science, Art, Truth, and Passion With NASA Astrophysicist Dr. Amy Winebarger19 Jan 202300:56:49

Does truth exist? If it does, is it possible to know the truth? That's what me and Dr. Amy Winebarger talked about as we discussed Action Painting II by Mark Tansey.

Science and art are often seen as opposites—one concerned with numbers and facts, the other dipping into emotion and feelings. But both science and art are a way of exploring and explaining the world, the universe, and our experience of it all.

Humans are curious. We've been seeking knowledge and attempting to share our own truths for as long as we've existed. No matter how we view the world, what matters most is the space between us and the connections we make there.

Amy R. Winebarger is an astrophysicist in the Heliophysics and Planetary Science Office at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. She specializes in the analysis of observations of the solar corona. In our conversation, she shared the thrilling nature of her work, the magic of finding the career that's right for you, and talked about where she finds God in the universe.

See all the artworks and get the links in the show notes.

How Compassion in the Creative Process Leads To Layered Connections and Deep Impact with Heather Doyle Fraser12 Jan 202300:53:59

Creating a work of art is a process—a process that can change who you are. Too often, we judge or rush our creative pursuits, ignoring the messages included in every brushstroke or written word. We end up saying too much or not enough.

But when we approach the creative process with patience and compassion, we make connections with ourselves and with all who resonate with our work. And the impact? It's infinite.

Heather Doyle Fraser is a publisher, writer, and coach who believes in the power of voice and works with writers to bring their words to the world. In fact, she's helping me write my book! Together we discussed the deep work and tangled process of creation through the artwork Alison the Lacemaker by Swoon.

See the artworks and get the links from this episode in the show notes.

Ghost Stories in Art: Delighting in Paranormal History and Experiences with Jane Mesa05 Jan 202300:55:48

Do you believe in ghosts? Have you ever had a paranormal experience? Are you drawn to ghost stories in art?

Jane Mesa's first encounter with a ghost happened in her childhood bedroom. Now she investigates the paranormal. Jane joined me to discuss her experiences, both frightful and delightful, as we discuss Haunted House by Morris Kantor.

Get all the links and see the artworks Jane chose from in the show notes.

Motherhood, Bodies, and Being Whole: How to Feel Contentment in Our Conflicting Ways29 Dec 202200:44:07

What is your relationship to your body? Our society does not make it easy to have a healthy, loving connection to your body. Krystal and I discuss how motherhood changed our bodies, how being fat affected how we move through the world, and how our thirties brought healing and wholeness.

Get all the links mentioned in this episode and see the artworks Krystal chose from in the show notes.

This episode contains conversation about an eating disorder.

Art With the Rising Tides: How To Find Hope and Power in Climate Change with Nikole Pearson15 Dec 202200:59:36

How do you feel when you think about climate change?

Overwhelmed? Scared? Hopeless?

Nikole Pearson has a different point of view. Together, we discussed one of Jason deCairnes Taylor's powerful underwater sculptures and Nikole shared her insight on how we can find hope and opportunity in the rising tides.

For more the links and other artworks featured in this episode, visit the show notes at this link. 

The Discomfort of Being With: Unarmored Presence in the Wild Edges of Being Human with Allison Crow08 Dec 202200:59:49

I've discussed The Two Fridas by Frida Kahlo with hundreds of people of all ages in my career, and this discussion with Allison Crow helped me look at this inspiring painting in a completely new way. In this episode, we talk knowing ourselves, being present with our pain, our emotions, and all of our parts, and the beauty and healing power of connection.

You can get Allison's new book, Unarmored: Finding Home in the Wild Edges of Being Human, on Amazon. *affiliate link

To see the artwork, click here.

For more the links and other artworks featured in this episode. Visit the shownotes at this link. 

Revealing the Door Into Our Hearts: Delighting in the Duality of Creative Existence with Yola Mehmeti01 Dec 202201:12:15

Art is magic, it changes with us. You never see the same artwork twice. Your life changes what you see and how you interpret it.

Yola and I talk about how the meaning we find is shaped by our experiences and choices, and how our choices and experiences are shaped by the meaning we make.

The artwork discussed on this episode is from the exhibit The Real Deal is Talking to Dad by Chen Ke. You can find the artwork here.

Read more in the shownotes.

Messages From Nature and the Expansive Universe: How To Find Peace Within Yourself with Angie Stegall17 Nov 202200:47:33

Angie Stegall joins me to about an incredible artwork by Vasilis Avramidis. We talked about our connection to nature, the interconnectedness of all things, and the many rooms we hold inside ourselves.

Link to the artwork by Vasilis Avramidis from the Caretakers exhibit. (The artwork we discuss is the 9th image on this page.)

See the shownotes here.

 

Authenticity, Belonging, and Losing Control: Finding Yourself in BDSM and Art with Taylor Posey10 Nov 202201:01:08

Sex. Dominance. Submission. Vulnerability. Power. Pleasure. 

Taylor Posey is an intimacy coach, podcaster, and a dominatrix. In this episode, we're talking about something very human and often depicted in art...sex.

We talk about Taylor's experience with BDSM, how we find comfort, and being ourselves—all through the lens of an artwork, Natalie Frank, DOMINA III, 2017.

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Should You Fight the Storm or Surrender to Its Force? with Megan Winkler03 Nov 202200:53:32

In this episode of the Art & Self Podcast, I welcome Megan Winkler, The Good Business Witch. Megan is a leadership and anti-burnout coach. We spoke about time, the choices women have, chaos, slowing down, and burnout. This conversation gave us both chills.

The artwork discussed on this episode is Looking Back by Erik Johansson.

See the artwork, a transcript, and full show notes at this link.

 

How to Align your Inner and Outer Spaces to Cultivate Safety and Flow with Annette Stahl27 Oct 202200:55:25

In this episode of the Art & Self Podcast, I welcome Annette Stahl—an entrepreneur, coach, and designer. We spoke about life transitions, how our homes reflect and influence our lives, safety, energy, and how inner and outer spaces can align.

The artwork discussed on this episode is The Mysterious Garden by Margaret Macdonald Mackintosh.

Note: Domestic violence is briefly mentioned in this episode in the 34th minute.

See the artwork, a transcript, and full show notes at this link.

Understanding Grief and the Power of Chasing What We Really Want with Bryna Talamantez20 Oct 202201:04:30

Join me as grief therapist and podcaster Bryna Talamantez and I discuss the artwork There's a Thread You Follow by Linda McCabe.

 To view the artwork we discuss, but not while you are driving, click here.

For a full transcript and other links we discuss on the show, please visit the full show notes at this link. 

Introducing the Art and Self with Cindy Ingram! A Podcast Rebranding Revealed13 Oct 202200:16:44

Don’t be alarmed, Art Class Curator followers! The art lessons, blog posts, and other goodies are still here for your enjoyment. But the podcast has undergone a re-branding and slight shift in focus. 

My own personal journey over the last few years has led me to this moment. So in this episode, I explain why I’ve changed things and what you can expect from now on. Welcome to the Art and Self podcast!

Next week, you'll start to hear some intriguing art interpretations and conversations with soulful guests that illustrate the range and depth of what it means to be human.

Death and Life: Observations of Gustav Klimt’s Artwork with Madalyn (Part 2)24 Jan 202200:46:35

Last week, I had a fascinating conversation with Madalyn Gregory discussing Gustav Klimt’s Death and Life. I left that conversation so excited, only to discover that we weren’t done yet. Even after going off the air, we kept talking about it and realized we missed a lot of important things. So we decided to do a follow-up conversation to share even more of our insights with you!

4:55​ - Awareness of a gender issue from last week and what it says about our conditioning

13:40 - Impact of gender and gender limitations as human-made constructs

16:37 - Diverse racial representation (or lack thereof) in art

24:14 - Importance of authenticity of different perspectives shown in artwork

28:23 - How the patterns in Death and Life resemble quilt work

31:57 - Ruminating over what the circles in Death’s robes symbolize

36:23 - The negative space between Death and Life more effective as black to represent the unknown

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/61-gustav-klimt/

Death and Life: Observations of Gustav Klimt’s Artwork with Madalyn (Part 1)17 Jan 202200:46:13

Today, I’m excited to try a brand new type of episode where I have art conversations with other people and talk about favorite pieces of art, personal connections to art, and what drew us to the world of art. For my first guest, I’ve brought on one of my best friends for the last 10+ years, organizer for all things at Art Class Curator and brilliant writer Madalyn Gregory. In this episode, she’s chosen to discuss Death and Life by Gustav Klimt, an artwork that stopped her in her tracks when she saw it in person in Vienna during one of our curator trips.

3:09​ – What it felt like for Madalyn seeing the artwork for the first time

6:13 – Describing what Gustav Klimt’s Death and Life looks like

9:34 – The many observations we had while interpreting Death and Life

15:04 – Possible meanings and symbolism behind the skin tone used

24:20 – The loneliness and personality of Death

30:44 – An important lesson for art teachers to realize about their students

32:45 – Why we connected with Death and Life and the messages imparted to us

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/60-death-and-life/

How Naudline Pierre's Art Reflects My Life Then and Now10 Jan 202200:34:16

Today’s a different kind of episode. I had an idea recently and wanted to experiment with something new...

I went back to the Dallas Museum of Art to revisit Nauline Pierre’s exhibit. Why? I want to look at the same artwork again and again to see what new lessons I get out of it and how the artwork grows and changes as I grow and change.

And I want you along for the ride to see what that looks like in practice. I’m not just recalling my experience but also giving you a true taste of it in the immediate aftermath. So in this episode, I’ve captured my fresh thoughts and perspectives on Pierre’s exhibit, from the comfort of my car outside the museum. 

5:59 - Describing the next painting in the story of the falling woman, Power Within

9:14 - Why one particular angel in this artwork resonated with me so much

12:28 - Describing Pierre’s Hereafter, Ye Shall Be Changed and the storyline I see within it

14:49 - How this painting reflects my own life right now

19:01 - New insights gained, a couple of days later

23:52 - Why I wanted to do an episode like this and create the Art Connection Circle

27:01 - The three things necessary to treat something like art as a sacred act

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/94-how-art-reflects-my-life/

Falling for Naudline Pierre’s Evocative Art: A Conversation with Madalyn (Part 2)27 Dec 202100:37:13

Last week, Madalyn and I geeked out over Naudline Pierre’s art exhibit at the Dallas Museum of Art. It blew us away so much that we ended up talking for an hour and a half about our experience there. In part two of our discussion, we wrap up our thoughts on Lest You Fall and move on to Pierre’s Hold On, Hold Tight featuring more angels, nude figures, and clashing colors.

1:20​ - The different energy vibes given off by the angels in Lest You Fall

5:10 - Why the Bible quote similar to the artwork’s title triggers me

10:43 - Describing Pierre’s Hold On, Hold Tight oil on canvas painting

14:03 - What the fetal position of the main character could symbolize

18:42 - The personal reason behind why Madalyn feels drawn to this work of art

21:27 - Possible interpretations for the depiction of two angels who seem a bit removed from the action

26:22 - Why this exhibit made me want to go home and paint afterward

31:14 - Being expansive, multiple, contradictory, and living in the fullness of possibility

Mentioned in the Show:

Art Connection Circle

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/91-falling-for-naudline-pierres-art/

Falling for Naudline Pierre’s Evocative Art: A Conversation with Madalyn (Part 1)20 Dec 202100:44:59

Madalyn’s back on the podcast to discuss a favorite subject of ours: art! This time we talk about a Naudline Pierre artwork exhibit we just happened upon in Dallas recently. Our conversation ran well past the hour mark, so I’ve broken it up into two parts. In this part one episode, we discuss Pierre’s Lest You Fall oil on canvas painting and all the feelings and imagery it evoked within us.

5:46​ - Madalyn tries to describe what she saw when walking into the exhibit

8:53 - How Pierre’s work reminds me of a Baroque painting

13:29 - Discussing Pierre’s Lest You Fall, featuring a falling nude person

18:41 - My back-and-forth feelings on the winged creatures in the artwork

22:21 - The ability to see your identity reflected in art mediums

26:06 - Possible duality in the bird’s actions in the painting

31:31 - Life, faith, and the universal experience that draws us to these images

41:32 - Reflecting on what the figure could be falling towards and how that translates to life

Mentioned in the Show:

More Wonder, Please podcast

Art Connection Circle

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/91-Falling-for-Naudline-Pierres-Evocative-Art

How Art Can Enhance Your Health with Olivia Ollis13 Dec 202100:28:56

Today’s episode features a great interview that really illustrates the power of art connection. I talk with Olivia Ollis, an art teacher of over 30 years living in rural North Carolina. Her experience over the last year has deepened her personal connection to works of art and helped her discover new things about herself in the process. She discusses her health obstacles recently and the museum program that’s helping her through it.

6:52 - Why Olivia wanted to teach art and how she got into the field

8:06 - A program at her local museum that’s helping Olivia through endometrial cancer

13:34 - Surprising things Olivia has learned about herself since starting the program

19:56 - How Olivia’s relationship with art will change going forward

21:30 - The wonderful ways in which art has helped Olivia through her healing process

23:11 - The most powerful artwork in Olivia’s life right now

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/90-enhance-your-health-with-art/

[ART CLASS CURATOR] Why You’ll Want In On the Teacher Workshop Fun in 2022 with Madalyn Gregory06 Dec 202100:48:44

This episode is part of the former Art Class Curator episode and is targeted specifically for art teachers. 

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I live for being in the same space with the artwork, visiting art museums and spending time in them with fellow enthusiasts. The Art Class Curator summer workshop where I get to do just that is probably my favorite thing every year. It lights up my soul and gives me the most energy and excitement for the work I do.

This past summer’s workshop felt like the best ever, and I want to make it even better next year. So today, I’ve got Madalyn Gregory with me again to discuss our experiences there and tell you how you can join us on this fabulous ride in 2022.

1:37​ - The origins of the workshop

5:28 - Where the workshop will be held in the summer of 2022

8:31 - The new activity on the first day of the workshop this year that had everyone buzzing

14:27 - Art activities that stood out the most to us

20:04 - A magical art discovery we made on the second day of the workshop

26:05 - How we dialed in on personal art connection for the rest of the day

30:34 - Revealing some personal connections made from the experience

37:36 - How everyone took on a teacher role for the last activity 

44:38 - The structure of the 2022 workshop and registration details

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/89-art-class-curator-summer-workshop/

How Too Much Art History Knowledge Prevents a Personal Connection29 Nov 202100:24:08

Are you really engaged with the artwork when you walk into an art museum? Or are you too busy thinking about what you know about the art and artist? Perhaps you’ve even noticed other people reciting facts and background on a piece of art to whomever they’ve brought along. When I was younger, I was that person. I’d be all about the artist’s life, the colors and brush strokes used, the behind-the-scenes story I knew, and on and on.

We art teachers know a lot of stuff. We’ve taken art history classes and engage students in all sorts of ways. So when we go into a museum, we can fall into this way of engaging quite easily and automatically. In this episode, I talk about one of the most meaningful things for me when it comes to works of art, the emotional connection, and how knowing too much history can get in the way of it.

3:15​ -Why I decided to study art education instead of art history

8:39 - An excerpt from my essay about a Picasso painting that knocked me off my feet

11:03 - The magic that happened when I looked at that Picasso art again 10 years later

15:25 - The lesson I learned from a squirrel that held my curiosity for an hour

19:22 - Choosing which way you want to engage with artwork

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/88-art-history-knowledge/

[ART CLASS CURATOR] How to Handle Your Anxiety at School: A Discussion with Highly-Sensitive Teachers22 Nov 202101:25:30

This episode is part of the former Art Class Curator episode and is targeted specifically for art teachers. 

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I’ve noticed that the excitement and energy that comes with teaching wasn’t really there at the beginning of this school year. And if you’re one who struggles with anxiety or high-sensitivity, teaching these days is harder than ever.

Today’s episode is a re-release for both new listeners and old ones who’ve forgotten or missed out on this one the first time around. It involves one of my favorite conversations and is highly relevant to the trauma and stress educators are facing in the world right now.

In it, I interview two highly-sensitive teachers, Monica Wright and Amber Jordan, and we talk about how we handle our anxiety and sensitivity in the classroom. By the end of the show, I hope you find some nuggets of wisdom for your use or, at the very least, feel less lonely in your struggle.

2:59​ - Monica and Amber introduce themselves briefly

7:37 - What it’s been like for me as an introverted, socially anxious person

9:01 - What it really means to be a highly-sensitive person

10:02 - Amber’s #1 management tool for dealing with noise in the classroom

13:21 - How Amber avoids light sensory overload in her class

19:54 - Monica’s approach for handling the noise level in her classroom

24:09 - Preventing students from getting uncomfortably close and invading personal space

30:09 - A way to help alleviate the biggest cause of anxiety for new teachers

32:46 - Do this in the first weeks of school for a long-lasting, positive impact

36:57 - Monica’s coping mechanisms for social events at school

39:06 - How we’ve struggled to not take home the emotions of our students

49:39 - Solutions for dealing with our “hot spots” (peak stress moments)

1:01:36 - How Monica and Amber deal with teaching and parenting at the same time

1:08:43 - A tendency among the super anxious to over-plan and be hard on ourselves

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/87-how-to-handle-your-anxiety-at-school/

The Power in Partnering Poetry and Visual Art with Glenis Redmond15 Nov 202100:45:53

When you’re a kid into art, it’s hard to imagine doing that and getting paid for it like a job. (We all know that old adage about starving artists). This is possibly even more true for those who like writing poetry. You don’t often hear about professional poets.

Well, today’s an exception. My guest Glenis Redmond is an award-winning, professional poet, and teaching artist. In this episode, she talks about being drawn to poetry from an early age, her biggest inspiration for diving into a poetry career, and how she approaches teaching poetry in workshops and the classroom. I hope you love this conversation as much as I did!

2:49​ - How Glenis made the transition from counselor to professional poet artist

8:25 - The discipline of being an artist and how dialing in on your desire affects other people

10:16 - Why Glenis decided to start teaching poetry

14:22 - The intangible objective to working with teachers and students on poetry

16:23 - The keys to getting students to go deep and share their vulnerability through poetry

22:53 - Why introverts are big storytellers and the power of giving students agency

25:04 - How visual arts and poetry intersect and influence Glenis’ work

32:24 - Using praise poetry as a tool to connect with visual art in the classroom

36:10 - How praise poetry speeds up the social-emotional learning process

42:12 - The artwork that changed Glenis’ life

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/86-partnering-poetry-and-visual-art/

Delighting in the Connection Between Art and Spirituality with Eric Booth08 Nov 202101:00:29

After graduate school, I worked at an art non-profit called Big Thought. While I was there, my podcast guest today Eric Booth was a consultant who went high up in the company straight out of college. He did a lot of staff development training and programs for the non-profit. This episode represents a full circle moment for me as I thrill at reconnecting with him! In it, he and I talk about his path as a teaching artist and the connection between art and spirituality, a topic we both care about tremendously.

3:16 - Eric talks about his transition from Broadway actor to teaching artist

6:36 - How the teaching artist field has changed and the effects of the pandemic on the industry

12:18 - Two ways to bring a teaching artist into your classroom

15:38 - Eric describes what a good teaching artist partnership looks like

21:03 - The single best sentence Eric ever wrote, the idea behind it, and the companion book it eventually created

24:51 - How I recently made my own art and spirituality connection

27:52 - Paying a higher quality of attention to all different kinds of things in your life

32:20 - Eric explains what he means when he talks about the “verbs of art”

37:40 - The different between big art and religion and little art and religion

41:10 - The three concepts the Everyday Work of Art book boils down to

45:01 - Ideas on how to help students develop responsiveness to works of art

49:58 - What you can do right now to become more connected with art and spirituality

55:51 - How Hamlet changed Eric’s life

Transcript at https://artclasscurator.com/85-connection-between-art-and-spirituality/

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