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The Door That Said “No” and the Calling That Said “Go” 10 déc. 202501:06:46

Join us as we sit down with Lloydette Bai-Marrow — solicitor advocate, anti-corruption expert, founder of Parametric Global Consulting, and someone whose career path has been anything but straightforward.

From deciding at six years old that she would become a lawyer (after an argument with her grandmother), to navigating rejection, career setbacks, and unexpected redirections, Lloydette shares how God led her step-by-step, often through seasons that made no sense until much later. She opens up about how she finished university with a result that left her discouraged and questioning everything, almost giving up, until God gave her a simple instruction that carried her through years of “no’s”: keep going.

We talk about the moments that shaped her faith, from crying on the Tube after long days in court, to the shock of God reminding her that she would only be a “traditional lawyer” for the short-to-mid term, to the terrifying peace of leaving her dream job at the Serious Fraud Office with no clear plan other than obedience.

Lloydette also shares how she navigated marriage, motherhood, fear, finances, closed doors, and God’s “Denzel Washington slam” when she tried to return to corporate life, only to realise God was protecting the assignment He had given her. Today, she sits on major UK boards, leads high-profile investigations, and intentionally brings God into every room she enters, one prayerful step at a time.

This conversation is full of wisdom for anyone wrestling with uncertainty, career crossroads, or the pressure to have life perfectly figured out. It’s about courage, calling, obedience, and recognising that sometimes God speaks loudly and sometimes He says, “now go”.

Dreaming Big, Starting Small & Trusting God Through It All 03 déc. 202500:55:44

In this episode, we sit down with TV presenter, actress and creative educator Joanna Adeyinka-Burford to talk about faith, identity, wellbeing, and learning to trust God in a career that doesn’t always follow a straight line.

Joanna shares her earliest memories of faith — writing little worship songs at five years old — and how that childlike desire to know God shaped her creativity later in life. Growing up in a musical household, training at Italia Conti and New York Film Academy, and launching her presenting career through a Channel 5 competition, her journey has been anything but predictable. From CBeebies to pantomime, teaching, acting and now writing a devotional for children, Jo reflects on the twists, shifts and surprises that have marked her path. 

We talk about wellbeing, list-making, navigating the unknowns of self-employment, and the moment she learned to stop praying “Lord, let me get this job” and started praying “Lord, let me walk with You.” Jo also opens up about grief, losing her best friend in 2020, and how God met her in the questions, the why’s, the wrestling, and the slow healing. 

This conversation explores faith in real life — in creativity, career, trust, parenting, rest, identity, and those seasons where God invites us to come to Him exactly as we are.

Chapters
  • (00:00:00) - Interviewing Joanna Adeyinka Burford
  • (00:02:03) - My earliest faith memory
  • (00:04:05) - How Does God Fit Into Your Lists?
  • (00:07:09) - The Wellbeing Project
  • (00:11:14) - How My Career Has Been Stabilised By My Faith
  • (00:17:33) - Joanna on Writing a Book
  • (00:22:35) - Good Grief in the Life
  • (00:24:28) - What Happens When Our Prayers Are Not Answered?
  • (00:26:25) - How to Grieve Well
  • (00:34:50) - Coming to God: The Psalms
  • (00:36:44) - Who's Your Faith Warrior?
  • (00:39:05) - The Importance of Believing in Yourself
  • (00:47:45) - What Does Rest Look Like For You?
  • (00:53:13) - Jo on her faith journey
Music, Ministry & the Moments God Says "Go" 26 nov. 202501:02:00

In this episode, we sit down with Pastor Jerry (Jerome Matthew-Moore Brown) to talk about faith, gifting, calling, and the real journey of working out where God is leading you.

Jerry grew up in East London in a deeply musical family, surrounded by creativity from the start. Dance and musical theatre came first, followed by formal music training and an early start in the industry — touring with Gloria Gaynor at just seventeen. Over the years he’s recorded and performed with artists like Nina Simone, Tom Jones, Harry Connick Jr., Tina Turner, Girls Aloud, The Kingdom Choir, LCGC, the London Philharmonic Orchestra and many more — all while staying rooted in his faith and grounded in who God called him to be.

We talk about navigating multiple gifts, choosing between opportunities, and learning to follow God when the path isn’t obvious. Jerry shares openly about family legacy, the tension between passion and obedience, moments of redirection, and the prayer he prayed at fifteen that God brought back to him decades later — a turning point in stepping into pastoral leadership.

The conversation dives into creativity, calling, surrender, and trusting God through every season — from career changes to creative pursuits to trying to make sense of your gifts.

Chapters
  • (00:01:54) - Pastor Jerry on The Overcomers
  • (00:12:22) - Dancing and performing as a Christian boy
  • (00:26:49) - Multi-Talented Musicians
  • (00:37:40) - Pastoring at 30
  • (00:44:02) - "I Will Do Your Will"
  • (00:46:06) - God's Blessings on Drummers
Worship, West End and When 'No' is Still Part of God's Plan 19 nov. 202500:59:19

Grab a seat with us as we chat to Rachel John, West End actress, singer, and storyteller whose faith has shaped every step of her journey.

From her early days as a secretary to making her debut in The Lion King and later earning an Olivier Award nomination for Hamilton, Rachel shares how faith, perseverance, and God’s timing have carried her through the highs and lows of her career.

We unpack what it really means to trust God in an industry built on uncertainty, when “no” doesn’t mean “never,” when the spotlight fades, and when the journey looks different from what you imagined. Rachel opens up about learning to see closed doors as divine redirection, staying grounded in prayer through the waiting, and why her goal is simple but powerful: to make God famous through her life and gift.

This conversation is full of heart, from childhood memories of growing up in church and finding community, to rediscovering peace during the pandemic, to falling in love again with the accessibility and beauty of God’s presence in everyday life.

Scriptures mentioned: Psalms 42:5, Jeremiah 29, Romans 8:28, 2 Corinthians 12:9

Chapters
  • (00:00:17) - Meet Rachel John
  • (00:06:46) - How Do You Prepare For An Audition?
  • (00:12:53) - Making God Famous
  • (00:19:47) - Wisdom in social media debates
  • (00:23:17) - Rachel on Why She Did The Lion King
  • (00:29:39) - What the Church Means
  • (00:39:14) - Working Through Difficult Seasons
  • (00:44:37) - How to Get Through a Challenging Day
  • (00:48:45) - How God's Love Can Be Accessed
  • (00:51:13) - Rachel on Her Hymns Album
Trusting God in the Detour | From Law Books to Stage Lights 12 nov. 202500:52:58

In this episode, we sit down with Naana Agyei-Ampadu, a British actress, singer, and mother whose story is one of courage, faith, and divine redirection.

Naana shares how she went from studying law at Sussex University (with every plan to become a solicitor) to discovering her true calling in acting, a journey that began with a single, Spirit-led moment of realisation and unfolded into a thriving career on stage and screen.

In this conversation we dicuss what it looks like to trust God when your path takes an unexpected turn, to keep walking in faith when doors close, and to thrive even in seasons that feel uncertain. Naana opens up about cultural expectations, career transitions, motherhood, and how she’s learned to depend on God completely — when Plan B isn’t an option.

Scriptures mentioned: Jeremiah 29, Romans 8:28, Philippians 2:13

Chapters
  • (00:00:00) - Performing as a lawyer
  • (00:09:20) - The Case of Acting as a Vocation
  • (00:20:45) - Law Student on the Will of God
  • (00:22:16) - "Stepping Out On The Water"
  • (00:25:01) - Actress Naana on the uncertainty of her career
  • (00:31:19) - What Would I Say To My Younger Self?
  • (00:35:07) - God's Will for My Career
  • (00:42:36) - Jeremiah 29:8-9
  • (00:44:43) - The Walk With God
Figuring It Out Without Freaking Out 05 nov. 202501:01:14

In this introductory episode, we dive straight into one of the supposedly most-asked questions: “What is God’s will for my life?” Unpack it with us as we explore what “the will of God” means (personally and practically), sharing our own stories, and looking at how faith shapes everyday decisions at work and in life, without getting paralysed waiting for a perfect, sky-written answer.

We’re not teaching doctrine here, just sharing honest journeys, biblical reflections, and practical encouragement for your personal and professional journey.

Scriptures mentioned

Romans 12:2, Psalm 37:4, Matthew 7:7–8, Philippians 2:13, Ephesians 2:10, 1 Corinthians 12:7.

Resources mentioned

Book: Relentless Pursuit

YouVersion plan 'The Will Of God': https://www.bible.com/en/reading-plans/16598

Chapters
  • (00:00:16) - Working Out God
  • (00:03:34) - Is the Will of God Tied to Your Vocation?
  • (00:10:29) - Natalie Grant on the Will of God
  • (00:24:22) - Walking Through The Open Doors
  • (00:28:10) - My Purpose & Calling
  • (00:41:02) - God's Will for Your Life
  • (00:52:39) - Questions about the Will of God
  • (00:56:56) - Multiple Wills of God
  • (01:00:15) - A Final Little Encouragement
Working out God | Trailer 29 oct. 202500:01:22

Welcome to ‘Working out God’.

In this podcast series we delve into the personal journeys of individuals who have found strength and guidance through their faith while navigating the challenges of their specific industries and discuss what God has to say about our careers.

We explore how their beliefs influence their professional lives, the intricacies they balance as Christians in their respective industries, and the inspirational figures who have shaped their faith journey.

We’re your host, Toyin and Beulah, and we will be talking to friends, professionals, entrepreneurs, industry heavy weights, experts and everyone in between to discuss all matters relating to work, life, calling and faith.

Through candid conversations and insightful reflections, we uncover the profound impact of faith in the workplace, on individual careers and ponder how life might differ without it.

Music by The Porters Gate

Chapters
  • (00:00:03) - Working Out God
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