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🎙️Most apprentices don’t quit because they’re weak.They quit because year one hits harder than anyone tells them.Low starting pay.No real mentorship.Toxic jobsite culture.Unclear growth path.Pressure at home.Pressure at work.And then we wonder why they leave.In this episode of The Builder Show, we break down the real reason apprentices walk away from electrical, construction, plumbing, and HVAC. Not theory. Not social media hype. Real experience and real numbers.Over 100,000 apprentices complete programs each year.Even more leave before finishing.So what’s actually going on inside the trades?Is it pay?Is it leadership?Is it culture?Is it unrealistic expectations?Or are we building workers instead of building leaders?If you’re:– An apprentice thinking about quitting– A journeyman frustrated with “this generation”– A contractor struggling with retention– Or someone considering joining the tradesYou need to hear this conversation.The trades aren’t glamorous.They aren’t always fun.But they can absolutely be worth it — if the system is built right.🗣️ New episodes every week — hit subscribe so you never miss a moment.🎧 Listen now on Work N Talk.📌 Explore More:🌐 Website: energizeus-edu.today🎙️ More Episodes: podcast.energizeus-edu.today📘 Free eBook: info.energizeus-edu.today/blueprint-ebook📸 Follow Us: @energizeusedu on Instagram

Electricians attack other electricians more than anyone else.
Pricing wars. Ego battles. Comment section toxicity.
Undercutting. Belittling. “I’ve been doing this for 30 years.”

And then we wonder why the public doesn’t respect the trade.

In this episode of The Builder Show, we stop hiding from it.

We talk about:

• Why electricians attack other electricians
• The insecurity behind the ego
• Why undercutting is killing pricing power
• The leadership vacuum in the trade
• How this behavior is holding the entire industry back

This isn’t about being soft.
This is about accountability.

If we don’t address this now, the next generation will inherit the same broken culture.

Electricians — it’s time to look in the mirror.

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Drop your honest take below.

Do electricians really hate each other… or are we just avoiding the truth?

Gen Z electricians are going to make more money than Millennials.

Not because they’re better.
Not because they’re stronger.
Because they’re adapting faster.

In this full episode of The Builder Show, we break down the generational divide inside the electrical trade:

• Do younger electricians actually have it easier?

• Are Millennials getting comfortable?

• Does “30 years in the trade” still mean something?

• Is loyalty hurting income?

• Does access to YouTube, AI, and instant information change everything?

This isn’t about disrespecting experience.

It’s about mindset.

Every generation thinks they paid more dues.
Every generation thinks they worked harder.
But the electricians who evolve with the tools available today are the ones who win.

Electricians — is this about age… or about adaptability?

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Every electrician has seen it —Union vs non-union.

Scab. Rat.

Name-calling instead of real discussion.

In this episode of The Builder Show, we break down:Where terms like scab and rat actually came from

Why intent and character matter more than labels

Why union vs non-union isn’t a black-and-white issue in 2026How OSHA, DOL, and state licensing actually work

What apprentices should really be asking before choosing a path

Most electricians are just trying to:

Show up.

Work safe.

Get paid fairly.

Go home with the same fingers they came in with.This episode isn’t anti-union or anti-non-union.It’s pro-electrician.If you’re an apprentice, journeyman, contractor, or shop owner trying to figure out what path makes sense for you, this conversation is for you.

Drop a comment:

Are you union or non-union?

Why did you choose that path?

What would you do differently?🗣️ New episodes every week — hit subscribe so you never miss a moment.

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🎙️ Most electricians are told the same thing over and over:“Just do good work.”“I’ve been doing this for 30 years.”“Let your work speak for itself.”And that mindset is exactly why so many electricians stay stuck.In this episode of The Builder Show, we break down why electricians keep getting this one thing wrong — and why quality work alone is no longer what gets you paid, hired, promoted, or booked.We talk honestly about:Why customers don’t hire based on ‘clean work’Why responsiveness, clarity, speed, and predictability win jobs firstHow the electrical industry is entering a full reset between 2026–2029Why the next few years are the biggest opportunity electricians have had in decadesHow apprentices, journeymen, and contractors can separate themselves without working harderWe also address the uncomfortable truth:White-collar investors are buying electrical companies — and running them successfully — without knowing how to bend pipe.That should tell you something.This conversation is for:Electrical apprentices trying to stand outJourneymen who feel cappedContractors struggling to sell or stay bookedElectricians tired of toxic jobsite culture and ego-driven adviceIf you’re an electrician coming into the trade in 2026 or beyond, you’re starting at the best possible time — but only if you understand what actually creates value now.🗣️ New episodes every week — hit subscribe so you never miss a moment.🎧 Listen now on Work N Talk.📌 Explore More:🌐 Website: energizeus-edu.today🎙️ More Episodes: podcast.energizeus-edu.today📘 Free eBook: info.energizeus-edu.today/blueprint-ebook📸 Follow Us: @energizeusedu on Instagram

When you’re an electrician, work seems endless.Side jobs pop up.Something’s always broken.The phone rings.But the moment you go out on your own as a contractor, the calendar opens up—and the phones go quiet.In this episode of Work & Talk, we sit down with Jimmy Spire, CEO and founder of Glasshouse, to talk about the real problem most electrical contractors face: relying on a reactive market and waiting for the phone to ring.We break down:• Why being busy as an electrician doesn’t translate to steady work as a contractor• The difference between building a job and building a business• Why “waiting to be found” is dangerous in today’s market• How outbound thinking changes control and stability• What electricians need to understand before jumping into contractingThis conversation is for electricians thinking about contracting, new contractors with empty schedules, and anyone tired of hearing “just spend more on marketing” with no real results.🎧 Listen now on Work N Talk.📌 Explore More:🌐 Website: energizeus-edu.today🎙️ More Episodes: podcast.energizeus-edu.today📘 Free eBook: info.energizeus-edu.today/blueprint-ebook📸 Follow Us: @energizeusedu on Instagram

🎙️ Most electricians think selling themselves means saying “I do great work” or “I’ve been doing this for 30 years.”But that doesn’t get raises.It doesn’t win better jobs.And it doesn’t separate you from everyone else.In this episode of The Builders Show, we break down why electricians, apprentices, journeymen, and contractors struggle to communicate their value—and what actually makes people choose you.This conversation covers:• Why experience alone isn’t a selling point• What customers actually care about when hiring an electrician• How electricians lose jobs by competing on price• Why communication beats craftsmanship early in the sale• How apprentices and journeymen can position themselves for raises• What separates electricians who grow from those who stay stuckWhether you’re an electrical apprentice, journeyman electrician, or electrical contractor, this episode challenges the idea that “good work sells itself” and explains what really drives trust, value, and opportunity in the electrical trade.This isn’t about ego.It’s about clarity, confidence, and differentiation.📌 Explore More:🌐 Website: energizeus-edu.today🎙️ More Episodes: podcast.energizeus-edu.today📘 Free eBook: info.energizeus-edu.today/blueprint-ebook📸 Follow Us: @energizeusedu on Instagram

Working nonstop, but the money never shows up? In this episode of Masters of Home Service, host Adam Sylvester talks with Wilson Betances, electrical contractor and founder of Energize Us Edu Inc, about how unpaid invoices spiraled into massive debt and nearly cost him his home. Hear the wake-up call that changed everything, and the simple habits that helped him rebuild his systems and regain control of his cash flow.

Electricians heading into 2026 need to hear this.In this episode of The Builder Show, Cameron and Wilson Betances break down three uncomfortable truths every electrician must understand if they want to win in the next phase of the trades.This isn’t motivation.This is reality.We cover:Why just showing up no longer separates youHow comfort quietly destroys careersWhy licensure and reputation will decide who gets paid and who gets replacedThe explosion of data centers, renewables, battery storage, and smart systemsWhat electricians who want ownership, leadership, and leverage must do nowWhether you’re an apprentice, journeyman, master electrician, or contractor, 2026 is going to reward discipline, progression, and accountability—and punish complacency.The gap is widening.This episode explains why.📅 The Builder Show airs Monday, Wednesday, and Friday⏰ 7:00 AM Eastern | 4:00 AM Pacific🎧 Available on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts📌 Explore More:🌐 Website: energizeus-edu.today🛠️ Builders Convention: thebuildersconvention.com/optin🎙️ More Episodes: podcast.energizeus-edu.today🏗️ B.U.L.D. Association: info.energizeus-edu.today/buld-association📘 Free eBook: info.energizeus-edu.today/blueprint-ebook📸 Follow Us: @energizeusedu on Instagram

This episode of The Builder Show is a direct conversation for electricians, journeymen, apprentices, and electrical contractors heading into 2026.We’re not talking about motivation.We’re talking about real behaviors in the trade that are holding people back — complacency, avoiding licensure, relying on one contract, doing journeyman work without journeyman authority, and mistaking “showing up” for progress.In this episode, we break down:Why doing the same thing you did last year won’t work in 2026How unlicensed electricians quietly lose leverage, pay, and optionsWhy “good work” alone doesn’t protect your job anymoreThe difference between movement and actual progress in the tradesWhat electricians can change right now to separate themselvesThis show is for people who want more than a paycheck.If you’re an electrician who wants respect, stability, and long-term options — this episode is for you.🎧 Listen to the full episodeAvailable on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.📌 Explore More:🌐 Website: energizeus-edu.today🛠️ Builders Convention: thebuildersconvention.com/optin🎙️ More Episodes: podcast.energizeus-edu.today🏗️ B.U.L.D. Association: info.energizeus-edu.today/buld-association📘 Free eBook: info.energizeus-edu.today/blueprint-ebook📸 Follow Us: @energizeusedu on Instagram

Electricians and contractors didn’t lose respect overnight — it happened over generations.In this episode of The Builders Show, we break down why blue-collar work used to be respected like any other profession, how that reputation changed, and what electricians, journeymen, and contractors can do today to rebuild trust and authority.We talk about the origin of blue-collar work, the shift toward mass production and college culture, and why licensure, professionalism, communication, and standards matter more than ever in the skilled trades.This episode is for electricians, contractors, and anyone working in construction who wants to be taken seriously by homeowners, inspectors, and the next generation entering the trades.The Builders Show airs every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 7am EST / 4am PST.📌 Explore More:🌐 Website: energizeus-edu.today🛠️ Builders Convention: thebuildersconvention.com/optin🎙️ More Episodes: podcast.energizeus-edu.today🏗️ B.U.L.D. Association: info.energizeus-edu.today/buld-association📘 Free eBook: info.energizeus-edu.today/blueprint-ebook📸 Follow Us: @energizeusedu on Instagram

Every January, electricians set goals — and then quietly drift back into the same routine.In this episode of The Builders Show, we talk about why so many electricians, apprentices, and journeymen lose momentum after the New Year, why “just showing up” eventually works against you, and why licensure, communication, and intentional growth matter more than ever in the trades.This conversation breaks down what we see every week working with electricians and contractors across the country — people with talent, work ethic, and opportunity who stall out because they stop planning, stop learning, and stop pushing themselves forward.We cover:– Why New Year motivation fades fast in the trades– How complacency shows up on the jobsite– Why licensure changes your career direction– Why communication separates leaders from labor– How electricians can stand out without working more hoursIf you’re an electrician heading into 2026 and don’t want another year to disappear, this episode will hit home.The Builders Show airs every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 7am EST / 4am PST.📌 Explore More:🌐 Website: energizeus-edu.today🛠️ Builders Convention: thebuildersconvention.com/optin🎙️ More Episodes: podcast.energizeus-edu.today🏗️ B.U.L.D. Association: info.energizeus-edu.today/buld-association📘 Free eBook: info.energizeus-edu.today/blueprint-ebook📸 Follow Us: @energizeusedu on Instagram

Most electricians don’t realize how much money and time they’re quietly giving up by delaying licensure.Going into 2026, staying unlicensed doesn’t mean you’re failing — but it does mean your income is capped, your job options are limited, and you’re likely working more hours than necessary just to keep pace.In this kickoff episode of The Builders Show, we break down the real cost of avoiding licensure in the electrical trade. Not in theory — but in missed income, delayed opportunities, and years spent doing side work instead of building leverage.This conversation is about what actually changes when electricians commit to getting licensed: access to better work, higher earning potential, more control over time, and clearer long-term options in the trade.We also talk about why so many electricians drift year to year without a plan, why “just showing up” eventually works against you, and why 2026 is the year to stop leaving money on the table.If you’re an electrician, apprentice, or journeyman who wants more than another busy year, this episode will help you understand what licensure really unlocks — and why delaying it costs more than most people think.The Builders Show airs every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday at 7am EST / 4am PST.📌 Explore More:🌐 Website: energizeus-edu.today🛠️ Builders Convention: thebuildersconvention.com🎙️ More Episodes: podcast.energizeus-edu.today🏗️ B.U.L.D. Association: info.energizeus-edu.today/buld-association📘 Free eBook: info.energizeus-edu.today/blueprint-ebook📸 Follow Us: @energizeusedu on Instagram

Welcome back to the Work & Talk Podcast — the podcast for tradespeople, by tradespeople.

In this exclusive episode, we sit down with Leviton Manufacturing Company — one of the most historic names in electrical innovation — to explore how a partnership with Thomas Edison sparked a century of progress that continues to shape the electrical industry today.

🎧 Recorded LIVE from Leviton LIVE Nashville, this episode dives into Leviton’s 100+ year legacy, their role in powering America’s growth, and how the Next Gen Contractor Event is paving the way for the future of electricians, contractors, and builders.

💡 In This Episode:The history of Leviton and Thomas Edison’s collaborationHow Leviton evolved from the lighting era to modern smart home solutionsWhy Leviton remains a trusted brand for electricians worldwideThe Next Gen Contractor Event: hands-on training, innovation, and education

“AI can’t wire a house” — the human side of the skilled tradesWhole Home discussion: Performance.

Electrification.

Trust.

How Leviton is shaping the next 100 years of electrical work

⚡ Why This Matters:Leviton isn’t just a brand — it’s the backbone of an industry. From switches and controls to complete energy ecosystems, this conversation is about honoring the past, celebrating innovation, and empowering the next generation of builders.

📍 Watch or Listen Now:YouTube | Spotify | Apple Podcasts🎧 podcast.energizeus-edu.today👷 Hosted by: @willmbetances & @cameronvogelsang🎥 Presented by: @workntalkpodcast🎙️

The Work & Talk Podcast — for tradespeople, by tradespeople.
Today we sit down with Justin Lund (@itsjustinlund) to unpack the Delegation Priority Pyramid — a simple, repeatable framework for contractors to buy back 6–10 hours a week, fix cash flow, and stop firefighting.

What we cover:

• Why your first hire isn’t a journeyman — it’s admin (and how to know)

• The Delegation Priority Pyramid: Admin → Marketing → Sales → Leadership

• How one HVAC company had $800,000 stuck in AR — and collected $600K in 90 days

• Founder Freedom Playbook (free): track your time, find bottlenecks, delegate the right work

• Buying back your time: 10 hours = more bids, better clients, fewer late nights

• Cash flow reality: AR, payroll, taxes, and the systems that keep you out of trouble

• Routine > heroics: how to avoid burnout and build a business you actually enjoy

Why watch: If you’re in Year 0–3 or bouncing between $500K–$2M and feel stuck, this episode gives you a practical plan to grow without hating your life.

Guest: @itsjustinlund (IG/TT/LI)
Hosts: @workntalkpodcast

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Live cadence: The Builders Show — Mon/Wed/Fri @ 7 AM ET • Guest episodes — Wed @ 8 PM ET

Comment: What will you delegate first this week (admin, AR follow-ups, materials runs, inbox)? We’ll feature a few in the next show.

Going out on your own? We cover first-year mistakes, pricing you can defend, lead flow that works, and the “Contractor GPS” so you stop winging it. Plus TN licensing (LLE vs CE) and a look ahead to Leviton’s Next Gen Contractors event.Subscribe for The Builders Show M/W/F 7 AM ET • @workntalkpodcastThe Builders Show — the morning show for builders, electricians, and contractors.We took a week off (baby on the way!) and we’re back with a tactical episode for anyone in Year 0–3 of business or about to go out on their own.What we cover today:First-year contractor mistakes (and how to avoid them)The Contractor GPS: how to set a destination (not just “get jobs”)Pricing basics: stop guessing — start with targets, quarters, and weekly revenueLead flow: what actually works early (and what to avoid)Saying no to bad customers without starving your pipelineTN Licensing: LLE vs CE (scope, limits, prep that actually helps)Leviton Next Gen Contractors Event (Nashville): what we’ll share on business planning, pricing & load centersWhy watch: Real, usable steps before you clock in — build a business you don’t end up hating.Listen anywhere: podcast.energizeus-edu.todayFollow: @workntalkpodcast (IG & YouTube)Live cadence: The Builders Show — Mon/Wed/Fri @ 7 AM ET • Guest episodes — Wed @ 8 PM ETComment: What’s your one move this week — apply for a license, price a MPU, join an association, or set a monthly target?

Welcome back to the Work & Talk Podcast – the podcast for tradespeople by tradespeople.This week Will sits down with Sergio Cortes (El Profe) of Surge Electrical Training, the creator of the Surge Method that’s helping electricians pass their licensing exams nationwide.We’ve worked with Sergio for almost two years behind the scenes, but this is the first time we’ve sat down to share his story: from the Coast Guard to master electrician at 25, to opening his own business and now teaching 40+ electricians a month how to pass.Military roots → residential rewires → big jobs → teachingWhy leadership matters as much as skillset (even as an apprentice)The Surge Method: reading the NEC like a jobsite, not a textbookHow to prep once and pass your exam instead of paying fee after feeThe coming shift in solar & renewables: “soletricians,” battery installs, and why code knowledge = career leverageSergio’s new book & on-demand platform (Spanish + English)Why listen: If you’re thinking about your license, your first crew lead role, or moving from installer to professional, this episode gives you a playbook.🎧 Full audio: ⁠podcast.energizeus-edu.today⁠Follow our hosts: @workntalkpodcast @willmbetancesFollow our guest:  @surgeelectricaltrainingSubscribe for live morning shows M/W/F 7 AM ET and guest episodes Wed 8 PM ETComment: What’s the one thing holding you back from your license or leadership role? We’ll feature a few in our next Q&A episode.Want to be a guest or sponsor? Fill out the link in bio to showcase your business, vision, or brand on the show.What you’ll hear:📲 Call to Action (end of description)

Good morning! It’s Friday, Sept 26—and we’re back on The Builders Show, the only morning show for builders, electricians, and contractors.

Today’s Q&A (from your DMs):

• “How do I know I’m ready to be my own boss?” (Timing vs. preparation, the real checklists)

• How to get your name out there (Builders associations, local groups, what not to pay for)

• Tennessee licensing: LLE vs CE (what they allow, test prep that actually works)

• Leadership > labor: why the trades need mentors and succession, not gatekeepers

• Upcoming October appearances: education, professional development, and media events

Why watch: practical answers you can use before you clock in—mindset + moves you can make this week.

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Live from RE+ Las Vegas, Will sits down with Casey “The Solar Beast” Bottiger to talk about the habits and standards that actually build a career in solar: health, discipline, craftsmanship, and doing it right the first time.

Highlights

12 years clean → 4am discipline: why health & fitness fuel longevity on the roof

“100 never 99”: doing the job right—no loose lugs, no shortcuts, no excuses

Safety + performance: training your body so a 50-lb panel and a steep pitch aren’t a risk

Customer respect: present yourself like a pro—this is someone’s biggest asset, not a jobsite

Quality over contracts: why ownership > leases, and choosing materials/partners you trust

Career advice: build a reputation that follows you—in the small trade world, it will

Why watch/listen: If you’re in solar/electrical (or coming in), this is the blueprint for staying sharp, staying safe, and staying booked.

🎧 Full audio: podcast.energizeus-edu.today

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Comment with the one habit you’ll add this month (training, cleanup standards, QC checklist, pre-roof inspection). We’ll feature a few in the recap.

It’s Episode 12 of The Builders Show, the only morning show for contractors, tradespeople, and builders.

Today, Cameron and Will dive into the future of the skilled trades after watching a video from The Human Side of Construction. The next 10 years will bring massive changes: retirements, leadership gaps, and the need to pass on knowledge the right way.

⚡ Why we don’t just need more workers — we need more leaders.

⚡ The difference between 30 years of experience and 30 years of growth.

⚡ Why gatekeeping kills the industry and mentorship builds it.

⚡ How to take your license, your experience, and turn it into leadership.

This episode is about raising the next wave of foremen, project managers, and contractors — not just filling jobs, but building the future.

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💬 Drop a comment: What did YOU want to be when you were a kid — and how does it connect to what you do today?

It’s Friday on The Builders Show — the only morning show for builders, contractors, and tradespeople.

Today, Cameron and Will break down a viral video where a house flipper claims electricians are “overcharging” homeowners by quoting $13K–$17K for work that supposedly only costs $2K in materials.

⚡ What’s the real cost of electrical work?

⚡ Are electricians scamming, or are flippers undervaluing skilled trades?

⚡ What does it really take to get licensed, build a contracting business, and charge what you’re worth?

We’re cutting through the noise and giving you the truth contractors live every day.

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💬 Drop a comment: Do you think electricians are overpriced, or are flippers the problem?

This one’s about life in the arena. Will sits down with Eduardo Guzman (OVA Electric)—father, husband, contractor—to talk about defining success on your own terms, staying present with family, and still pushing hard in business.

Highlights

• “Just Life”: the season we’re in vs. the destination we imagine

• Father first: closing the laptop to be present (and why that matters later)

• Late start, no Plan B: flipping from employee comfort to contractor responsibility

• The real price of growth: money, time, and the Death Star of tiny pieces you must assemble

• Character under pressure: getting robbed, getting up, getting after it—again

• Success without regret: making the million or making the memories—and being good with both

Why listen: If you’re juggling kids, bills, and bids, Eduardo’s perspective will hit home. This is the trades at eye level—no fluff.

✅ Full audio: podcast.energizeus-edu.today
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Comment with the one trade-off you’re choosing this season (family, training, hiring, certification). We’ll feature a few in Part 2 with Eduardo.

It’s Wednesday and the weeks are flying. Will and Cameron get practical about time, licensing, and focus: why chasing events and influencer perks won’t replace the long-term payoff of journeyman cards and contractor licenses. Cameron breaks down Tennessee’s LLE vs. Contractor License (limits, counties, dollar caps), and we talk straight about NECA—who it’s for, when it’s worth it, and why most contractors should ask what’s the ROI?

We cover:

Time reality: four years feels long… until it isn’t

TN licensing 101: LLE ($25k/job cap) vs. Contractor License (statewide + higher limits)

NECA with clear eyes: procurement show, not an influencer festival

Marketing vs. sales: brand awareness ≠ conversions (how to think like an owner)

The trap: fame-first “creator” path vs. building a legitimate trade career

Why the trade still wins: licenses, systems, reputation, and owning your path

Bottom line: Do the work that compounds—licenses, skills, systems, and character. The attention fades; the credential and business don’t.

✅ Full audio: podcast.energizeus-edu.today

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🔔 Live: The Builders Show — Mon/Wed/Fri 7 AM ET | Guest shows — Wed 8 PM ET

Drop your state’s license path in the comments and the one step you’ll complete this month (exam date, paperwork, or ride-along).

From conduit-bending meetups to mentoring online, Moises “Moy” Hernandez is focused on building the right way—on the job and at home. In this conversation, Will digs into Moy’s journey: learning from tough mentors, choosing family balance before business burnout, and why communication is the difference between surviving and thriving in the trades.

What you’ll learn

• Balance first: choosing time with family without stalling your career

• Communication as a superpower: speaking up with GCs, foremen, clients

• Paying it forward: teaching apprentices, hosting bending sessions, sharing online

• Real path for newcomers: certifications, journeyman vs. C-10, stacking credentials

• Why character and humility beat “I’ve been doing this 30 years” every time

Links
🎧 Full audio: podcast.energizeus-edu.today
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Guest: @moy_hrdc (Instagram)

Schedule
The Builders Show — Mon/Wed/Fri 7 AM ET (live)
Guest episodes — Wednesdays 8 PM ET

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Everyone posts “3–5 years experience, journeyman only.” Then they’re shocked when production tanks over drugs, drinking, and no-show culture. Today, Cameron and Will unpack the five traits that actually sustain a company—Character, Trust, Vision, Work Ethic, Skill Set—and react to a caller on Dave Ramsey’s show who hit $1.1M with four techs…then had to fire half his crew.

In this episode:

• Why journeyman-first hiring backfires without character & trust

• How to screen for the five traits (before you hand over a van)

• Red flags you ignore at hire become crises at scale

• Customer experience > “I’ve been doing this 30 years”

• Building respect for the trades through professionalism

Bottom line: Skills can be taught. Character keeps clients, crews, and cash flow.

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Like, drop your top hiring red flag, and share this with a foreman or owner still posting “journeyman only.”

Shorter days, tougher mornings—and a good time to check your standards.

Today, Cameron Vogelsang and Will Betances break down why most job posts chase “3–5 years experience” and still get burned, and why hiring for Character, Trust, Vision, Work Ethic, then Skill Set wins long-term. We also dig into sales ethics (Inside Edition’s water-heater sting), how to avoid “guru” tactics, and what apprentices/owners can do today to stand out.

In this episode:

The 5 traits that beat “years of experience”

Journeyman-first hiring vs. molding an apprentice

Sales vs. taking an order: how to recommend without hustling customers

The plumber sting: why character is your real differentiator

Practical ways apprentices, leads, and owners show character on-site

Bottom line: Skills can be taught. Character and trust are non-negotiable.

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🔔 Live: The Builders Show — Mon/Wed/Fri 7 AM ET | Guest episodes — Wed 8 PM ET

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Call to action:

Like, drop your hiring philosophy in the comments, and share this with a foreman or apprentice who needs the five traits on lock.

It’s Friday—and for most people, that means payday, clocking out early, and counting down to the weekend. But for contractors, “Thank God It’s Friday” hits different.

In this episode, Cameron Vogelsang and Will Betances break down why living for Fridays is a trap, why late nights and burnout aren’t a badge of honor, and how to build your career (or company) on vision and a plan instead of just working for the next check.

🔥 Topics covered:

• TGIF culture: what it says about your week

• Why late nights (2 AM hustle) should be temporary, not permanent

• Contractors calling everything an “investment” — when it’s really just poor planning

• Lessons from the trades: startup energy vs. long-term sustainability

• How to define success for yourself, your family, and your crew

• Practical advice for apprentices and new contractors

Bottom line: Don’t just work until Friday. Work toward something bigger.

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🔔 Live Schedule: The Builders Show — Mon/Wed/Fri @ 7 AM ET | Guest Episodes — Wed @ 8 PM ET

Call to action:
Like 👍, comment with your thoughts on TGIF culture, and share this with a contractor who needs a reminder: without a plan, Friday is just another paycheck.

Work N Talk Podcast presents: TURNING THE MIC ON… with Martin Perdomo.

We flip the script and dig into what it actually takes to build a contracting business that lasts—without guru fluff.

Inside this episode:From worker to owner: why the “second apprenticeship” is business

Patience + consistent education (what works, what’s noise)

Coaching vs. real mentorship: value, price, and what to ignore

Customers-for-life playbook: communication over one-off home runs

Family buy-in, boundaries, and defining success on your termsThe three pillars: Hard Skills • Soft Skills • Self-DevelopmentWhy watch: Because the trades don’t need more hype—they need systems, standards, and leaders.

✅ Full audio: podcast.energizeus-edu.today

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🔔 Live schedule: The Builders Show — Mon/Wed/Fri 7 AM ET |

Guest episodes — Wed 8 PM ET

Call to action:Like 👍, drop your biggest takeaway in the comments, and share this with a contractor who’s serious about building the right way.

Fall’s here and the days are shorter—but the jobsite risks aren’t. Today, Cameron Vogelsang and Will Betances get straight about why electrical is the most unforgiving trade and how one attic “surprise” nearly turned into a fire.

What we cover:

• Real incident: ATS tie-in + antique split lugs in a J-box → arc blast in the attic

• Why “just throw the cover on” is a trap—and how to handle unsafe legacy work

• Working live vs. locking out: productivity, liability, and when to say NO

• Apprentice playbook: what to do when a foreman/GC pressures you into risky work

• Owners’ responsibility: notify, document, quote the fix, and sleep at night

• Quick trade compare: plumbing floods; electric can kill—price and respect follow risk

Bottom line: Do it right or don’t touch it. Electrical doesn’t give second chances.

✅ Full audio: podcast.energizeus-edu.today
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🔔 Live: The Builders Show — Mon/Wed/Fri 7 AM ET | Guest episodes — Wed 8 PM ET

Call to action:
Hit Like, drop your worst “old work” find in the comments, and share this with a tech or apprentice who needs the reminder: own the work, not the shortcut.

Happy Labor Day. Some of us slept in; some of us laced up and went to work. Today we break down a viral clip from the White House grounds where a crew chipped the marble walkway—and what it teaches every contractor about attention to detail, accountability, and leadership.

What we cover:

The White House marble incident: mistakes happen—own it fast or lose the client

How to handle damage on a job: notify, document, contact, fix (and why insurance is there)

Employees vs. owners on risk: paying your people first, protecting your reputation

Training that actually sticks: set standards, rehearse expectations, build soft skills

Culture check: no “walking on eggshells”—create a shop where issues get surfaced early

Why it matters: Contracts are won on price, kept on professionalism. Your crew’s response after a mistake decides whether you keep—or torch—once-in-a-lifetime accounts.

✅ Full audio: podcast.energizeus-edu.today

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🔔 Live schedule: The Builders Show — Mon/Wed/Fri, 7 AM ET. Guest episodes every Wed 8 PM ET.

Call to action:

Like 👍, comment with how you would’ve handled the White House incident, and share this with a foreman or apprentice who needs the reminder: own the mistake, protect the relationship, lead the crew.

It’s Friday — payday for some, stress day for others. In this episode of The Builders Show, hosts Cameron Vogelsangand Will Betances break down the realities contractors face when payroll, cash flow, and business discipline collide.

🔥 Topics covered today:

• Why contractors often pay themselves last — and what it means to run payroll when cash is tight

• The biggest mistakes owners make with money, growth, and rainy-day planning

• The culture of hate in the trades: why electricians get labeled the “biggest divas” online

• The truth about training, leadership, and why owners are usually the weakest link in their own company

• Why soft skills matter more than hard skills if you want to build a sustainable career in construction

This is a must-listen for anyone in the trades who’s tired of excuses, ready to face the truth, and serious about building a future in construction.

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In this episode of the Work & Talk Podcast, I sit down with Coraly Beede, a seasoned tradeswoman with nearly 30 years of experience in the construction industry.

Coraly shares her inspiring journey from building envelope technician to entrepreneur, touching on her passion for workforce development and the unique challenges women face in the trades.

We delve into her philosophy of leadership, emphasizing self-mastery as a cornerstone for effective team management. As Coraly embarks on launching a new HVAC business with her husband, she reveals her vision for creating a supportive work environment that nurtures employee growth and retention.

Join us for an insightful conversation that highlights the importance of serving others in the trades and the transformative power of leadership.We talk about:✅ How she grew and positioned her business for sale✅ The mindset shifts and personal growth behind her success✅ The biggest challenges she faced and lessons she learned✅ What life looks like now and where she’s heading next.

This isn’t just about business—it’s about becoming the leader your business needs. If you’re a contractor, builder, or entrepreneur in the trades, this is an episode you can’t miss.

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Contracting isn’t just about tools and jobsites — it’s about health, mindset, and the culture of the trades. In today’s episode, hosts Cameron Vogelsang and Will Betances dive into the tough conversations contractors need to hear:

🔥 Topics we cover:

• Why contractors brag about “2 hours of sleep” and how it’s destroying health & performance

• The hidden chain reaction of poor sleep → bad eating → energy drinks → burnout

• Why so many contractors lose their joy, their health, and their drive after years in the trades

• Shoutout to leaders pushing health and culture in the trades (like Construction Mentor)

• The hard conversation: illegal immigration in the construction industry — how it impacts jobs, wages, and legitimate contractors

This episode isn’t fluff. It’s a wake-up call for anyone serious about staying sharp, staying healthy, and protecting the future of the trades.

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👉 Like, comment, and share if you know a builder who needs this message today.

🚨 Welcome to the very first episode of The Builders Show 🚨
Hosted by Cameron Vogelsang with co-host Will Betances, this is your new morning show for the trades — where contractors, electricians, and builders get the mindset, motivation, and real talk needed to win the day.

In this episode:
⚡ Why Mondays are the hardest (and most important) day of the week
⚡ The “electrical motor” mindset: why starting requires more energy
⚡ Quote of the Day: “Losers think showing up is the hard part. The truth is, showing up is the minimum.”
⚡ What separates quitters from builders in the trades

This is the show that kicks off your morning with insight, motivation, and straight talk from the field.

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🔔 New episodes every Mon, Wed, Fri at 7 AM EST (LIVE) + guest interviews every Wednesday.

Welcome to the Work & Talk Podcast – where real tradespeople drop raw, game-changing insights you won’t hear anywhere else.In this episode, Will Betances shares his unique journey into the skilled trades as an electrician. Whether you’re a seasoned contractor, an up-and-coming engineer, or just exploring your next move, his story will challenge how you think about the trades—and your place in them.🎟️ Don’t miss the Builders Convention! Connect with industry pros, gain hands-on insight, and grow your network. Get your tickets at thebuildersconvention.com🚀 Explore more resources and training opportunities at energizeus-edu.today🔧 Interested in building associations and community partnerships? Check out this page to get started.If this episode hits home, be sure to subscribe and leave a review. For behind-the-scenes content and updates, follow us on Instagram @workntalkpodcast!

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Welcome to the Work & Talk Podcast – the place where real tradespeople share raw, game-changing insights you won’t hear anywhere else. In this episode, Will opens up about finding your path in the skilled trades. Whether you’re a seasoned contractor, engineer, or just figuring it out, his advice will shift your perspective. Don’t miss this one!Hit subscribe and leave a review if you found this episode valuable. Follow us on Instagram @workntalkpodcast for more exclusive content and updates!

Welcome to the Work & Talk Podcast – the place where real tradespeople share raw, game-changing insights you won’t hear anywhere else. In this episode, Will opens up about finding your path in the skilled trades. Whether you’re a seasoned contractor, engineer, or just figuring it out, his advice will shift your perspective. Don’t miss this one!Hit subscribe and leave a review if you found this episode valuable. Follow us on Instagram @workntalkpodcast for more exclusive content and updates!

Welcome to the Work & Talk Podcast – the place where real tradespeople share raw, game-changing insights you won’t hear anywhere else. In this episode, Will opens up about finding your path in the skilled trades. Whether you’re a seasoned contractor, engineer, or just figuring it out, his advice will shift your perspective. Don’t miss this one!Hit subscribe and leave a review if you found this episode valuable. Follow us on Instagram @workntalkpodcast for more exclusive content and updates!

Welcome to the Work & Talk Podcast – the place where real tradespeople share raw, game-changing insights you won’t hear anywhere else. In this episode, Will opens up about finding your path in the skilled trades. Whether you’re a seasoned contractor, engineer, or just figuring it out, his advice will shift your perspective. Don’t miss this one!Hit subscribe and leave a review if you found this episode valuable. Follow us on Instagram @workntalkpodcast for more exclusive content and updates!

Join us on the Work and Talk podcast—a space where tradespeople share their stories and wisdom. In our latest episode, Will talks about finding your way in the skilled trades. Whether you're a seasoned contractor, engineer or just navigating life, their insights are a game-changer. Don't miss out! Instagram- @workntalkpodcast

The TRUE Cost Of Running A Business With Wilson Betances

The Value In Hiring With Wilson Betances

Join us on the Work and Talk podcast—a space where tradespeople share their stories and wisdom. In our latest episode, Will talks about finding your way in the skilled trades. Whether you're a seasoned contractor, engineer or just navigating life, their insights are a game-changer. Don't miss out!

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The Role Of Trust In Contracting With Wilson Betances Join us on the Work and Talk podcast—a space where tradespeople share their stories and wisdom. In our latest episode, Will talks about finding your way in the skilled trades. Whether you're a seasoned contractor, engineer or just navigating life, their insights are a game-changer. Don't miss out! Instagram- @workntalkpodcast

Lowering Your Prices In Contracting With Wilson Betances

Join us on the Work and Talk podcast—a space where tradespeople share their stories and wisdom. In our latest episode, Will talks about finding your way in the skilled trades. Whether you're a seasoned contractor, engineer or just navigating life, their insights are a game-changer. Don't miss out!

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Red Flags In Contracting With Wilson Betances

Join us on the Work and Talk podcast—a space where tradespeople share their stories and wisdom. In our latest episode, Will talks about finding your way in the skilled trades. Whether you're a seasoned contractor, engineer or just navigating life, their insights are a game-changer. Don't miss out!

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Cutting Corners In Contracting With Wilson Betances

Join us on the Work and Talk podcast—a space where tradespeople share their stories and wisdom. In our latest episode, Peter and Will talk about finding your way in the skilled trades. Whether you're a seasoned contractor, engineer or just navigating life, their insights are a game-changer. Don't miss out!

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Meet the woman behind the trades: Andrea O'Connell AKA @that_electrician_chick. Join us on the Work and Talk podcast—a space where tradespeople share their stories and wisdom. In our latest episode, Andrea will talk about mental health and the skilled trades. Whether you're a seasoned contractor, engineer or just navigating life, their insights are a game-changer. Don't miss out! Follow Andrea's Journey on Instagram @that_electrician_chick

Meet the men behind the trades: Anthony Feeney, Chad German, and Eric Meyer. Join us on the Work and Talk podcast—a space where tradespeople share their stories and wisdom. In our latest episode, Anthony, Chad and Eric talk about growing in the skilled trades. Whether you're a seasoned contractor, engineer or just navigating life, their insights are a game-changer. Don't miss out! Follow Everyones Journey on Instagram @all_things_electric @utah_electrician

Meet the man behind the trades: Steve Kavallaris AKA @electricaltime_dot_com . Join us on the Work and Talk podcast—a space where tradespeople share their stories and wisdom. In our latest episode, Steve and Will talk about electrical code. Whether you're a seasoned contractor, engineer or just navigating life, their insights are a game-changer. Don't miss out! Follow Steve's Journey on Instagram @electricaltime_dot_com