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Word In Your Ear
Mark Ellen, David Hepworth and Alex Gold
Frequency: 1 episode/8d. Total Eps: 835

Mark Ellen and David Hepworth have been talking about and writing about music together and individually for a collective eighty years in magazines like Smash Hits, Mojo and The Word and on radio and TV programmes like "Rock On", "Whistle Test" and VH-1.
Over thirteen years ago, when working on the late magazine The Word, they began producing podcasts. Some listeners have been kind enough to say these have been very special to them. When the magazine folded in 2012 they kept the spirit of those podcasts alive in regular Word In Your Ear evenings in which they spoke to musicians and authors in front of an audience.
Over these years they've produced hundreds of hours of material. As of the Current Unpleasantness of 2020, they've produced yet hundreds of hours more with a little help from guests kind enough to digitally show them around their attics such as Danny Baker, Andy Partridge, Sir Tim Rice and Mark Lewisohn. For the full span of the Word In Your Ear world, visit wiyelondon.com.
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Live Aid remembered – from inside and out – on its 40th birthday
Episode 783
dimanche 6 juillet 2025 • Duration 54:10
A 40th anniversary special with two of its presenters (Hepworth and Ellen) and old pal and TV critic Boyd Hilton who watched on the day aged 18 (“young, pretentious, idiotic”) and reviews the new BBC documentary. We look back at …
… the ways Live Aid changed television – “not about music but spectacle and scale”.
… would the idea of staging it have ever come about in the world of social media?
… being in the room for the Geldof F-Bomb.
… Ian Astbury smoking on live TV, the concrete mausoleum of the old Wembley Stadium, Concorde, Status Quo and other things that now seem so 1985.
… how Live Aid was the death of the New Romantics – “they don’t work in daylight” – and why Boy George turned it down.
… the footage set to the Cars’ video, the emotional pivot of the day, and the interview with the Ethiopian girl Birhan Woldu in the new documentary.
… how the thin sound of ’80s acts like the Style Council and Ultravox didn’t have the impact of old-school guitar/bass/drums.
… was Live Aid the first live televised rock concert event?
…and fragments of our fading memories – the U2 drama, Adam Ant, Sade, the lost link to Ian Botham, Billy Connolly in tears, acts unwisely playing new singles, Noel Edmonds’ helicopter shuttle, the BBC insisting it “mustn’t feel like a Telethon” – and all achieved without mobile phones.
Plus the return of Oasis, the BBC’s tangle with Neil Young at Glastonbury and the fall-out from the Bob Vylan broadcast.
… and a few Glastonbury moments - Rod Stewart’s cocktail-dress cabaret girls and the 1975’s Matt Healy stumbling on with a fag and a pint of Guinness.
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Ian Anderson, Jethro Tull and 58 years of one-legged live performance
Episode 782
mardi 1 juillet 2025 • Duration 26:41
Ian Anderson is touring again in 2026 and talks to us here about tweed stage-wear, an audience of four, his teenage heroes and the first shows he ever saw and played. There’s all sorts within, including …
… playing his first gig to Catholic schoolgirls at the Holy Family Youth Club in Blackpool – “we emptied the room”.
… queues round the block at the Marquee in 1968 – “the moment I knew we’d arrived.”
… how Joe Cocker nicked his breakfast.
… seeing Cliff at the ABC in Blackpool – “he was our Elvis.”
… guitarists who played “nicely”– Hank Marvin, Eric Clapton, Peter Green, Ritchie Blackmore. “Precise, accurate, they sang melodies.”
… the ceremonial christening of Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond.
… exotic clothes, stage names and parallels with Beefheart’s Magic Band.
… recording Feel Like Makin’ Love with the 90-year-old Engelbert Humperdinck.
… learning Guitar Tango by the Shadows - “not blues or rock and roll - progressive pop!”
… the fine art of dressing up: Jethro Tull in America – tweeds and deerstalkers v check shirts and denim.
… fund-raising shows for imperilled cathedrals.
… the allure of touring by train – “I’m Michael Portillo with a flute”.
… the three songs Jethro Tull always play.
Tickets for the Curiosity Tour 2026 here: jethrotull.com
Ian Anderson presents Christmas With Jethro Tull:
Thursday 18 December 2025 - Bath Abbey
Friday 19 December 2025 - Peterborough Cathedral
Saturday 20 December 2025 - Southwark Cathedral
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Why Oasis were God’s gift to the rock press and the story of two missing teeth
Episode 773
jeudi 12 juin 2025 • Duration 41:58
Liam Gallagher calls Ted Kessler and Hamish MacBain “the Peter Cook and Dudley Moore of music journalism”. Both worked at the NME (and Ted at Q), both interviewed the band many times and have just published ‘A Sound So Very Loud’ which, in the grand tradition of Revolution In The Head, tells the story of every Oasis song ever recorded. They talk to Mark here about …
… why Oasis struck such an almighty chord and were the band the press were waiting for.
… their dismantling of the notion of rock stardom.
… “a visceral dislike”: why they were so socially divisive in the ‘90s.
… Liam “waking up in police custody with two missing teeth”.
… the Gallaghers’ dependable flair for the Smiths-style “performative interview” and why it sold the rock press.
… what Noel stole from Tony Blair’s maiden speech for the lyrics of Magic Pie.
… the turning point in the shift in the brothers’ powerbase.
… Liam and the invention of “Stillism”.
… “70 per cent of a band is the singer’s identity”.
… Noel’s blog and Liam’s Twitter and how the split might have been avoided if their debate hadn’t been played out in public.
… Supersonic, Cigarettes and Alcohol and the admirable honesty of Noel’s “brazen theft”.
… how Stop Crying Your Heart Out became an X-Factor standard.
… and the 5am Liam Gallagher social media publicity machine.
‘A SOUND SO VERY LOUD’ BY TED KESSLER AND HAMISH MACBAIN
Preorder link here!: https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/ted-kessler/a-sound-so-very-loud/9781035078257
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How Christine McVie saw Fleetwood Mac and the real reason she left them – by Lesley-Ann Jones
Episode 683
vendredi 4 octobre 2024 • Duration 37:56
Christine McVie - one of only two British girl rock musicians in the ‘60s and part of the greatest pop soap opera of all time. Neither in the backline or the frontline but occupying a unique middle ground. Packed it in for 16 years then returned to the fold. Lesley-Ann Jones’ fresh and emotional memoir Songbird follows “the trajectory of a male rock star played by a woman”, the home she was keen to escape, the outer limits of life in Fleetwood Mac’s “toxic Camelot” and the rigours of holding her ground in a man’s world. We cover all sorts here including …
… the lasting effect of not having “an ordinary mother”.
… the night in Sunderland that made her think again.
… when your best friend sleeps with your fiancée.
… supporting the Shadows when she was 15 at the 2I’s in Soho.
… Etta James, Chicken Shack and playing the Reeperbahn.
… why rock stars can never be part of a village community.
… Fleetwood Mac’s West Coast Elysium: “they were all as bad as each other”.
… “cute and dangerous” meets “lifeline and anchor”: the love affair with Dennis Wilson.
… why she and John McVie both needed a wife.
… and her lifelong connection with the blues, “a sadness you can’t cure”.
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Nick Heyward dressed like Cary Grant – then the Jam, XTC and Talking Heads. “It’s all about clothes, hair and shoes.”
Episode 682
jeudi 3 octobre 2024 • Duration 33:12
Nick Heyward was one of our favourite cover stars when we were at Smash Hits in the ‘80s, the days when hardcore Haircut One Hundred fans turned out in Fair Isle sweaters and Sou’Westers. He now lives mostly in Florida, he’s made nine solo albums – one magnificently titled Open Sesame Seed - and he’s toured again with his old band after ten years’ painful separation. Touring the UK in October, he couldn’t be more upbeat about the road ahead – “I can do anything!” – and looks back here at the first shows he saw and played himself. Which involves …
… seeing Count Basie, Ray Charles and Oscar Peterson on the same bill when he was 12.
… “if you stop playing music you’re like the boxer that gave up the fight”.
… pop dress codes, knock-off pop merchandise and trips to Shellys Shoes.
… growing up in Beckenham where Bowie was “the lighthouse beam that made being a pop star possible”.
… old schoolfriends and Haircut One Hundred members Les and Graham and how “we got our friendship back”.
… why seeing XTC was “like plugging into electricity”.
… Buzzcocks and Boomtown Rats at the Croydon Greyhound.
… how he was saved by management.
… singing Love Plus One in Salisbury Cathedral.
… and the lingering thrill of his first reviews (by Graham K Smith and Adrian Thrills).
Nick’s tour dates here:
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In the studio with Nick Drake, Fairport, John Martyn & the String Band: John Wood remembers a golden age
Episode 681
mercredi 2 octobre 2024 • Duration 48:44
“There was no Command-Zed back then!” John Wood engineered or produced some of the most magical, timeless and affecting records ever made - by Nick Drake, John Martyn, the McGarrigles, Fairport Convention, Sandy Denny, John Cale, Squeeze and many more. He’s 85 now and looks back here at a luminous career that started with mastering singles at Decca and transferred to Sound Techniques, the mecca he co-founded in an old cowshed in Chelsea when takes were spontaneous and even the tape-op was part of the performance. He misses those days, when albums were organic and the labels had less control, and talks here about …
… “the age when sound had perspective and seemed three-dimensional”.
… Nick Drake’s confidence and his guiding lights - eg the Beach Boys and Randy Newman (“who I’d never heard of”). And his final nighttime sessions.
… the way Fairport recorded – “We’re only going to do it once” – and why they could make three albums a year.
…managing the girls in the Incredible String Band, “especially when Licorice played drums”.
… John Cale in “maniac mode” and his sudden and unexpected friendship with Nick Drake.
… Cale and Nico at the Chelsea Hotel.
… and why ‘Geoff Muldaur Is Having A Wonderful Time’ was the job he remembers the fondest.
Also mentioned: the Downliners Sect, Judy Collins, The Marmalade, Graham Gouldman and Squeeze.
John’s got nothing to plug and just wanted to talk to us. Thanks, John, and bless your cotton socks.
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Ian Hunter – joining Mott The Hoople, Bowie, Hamburg and being “enthused into craziness”.
Episode 680
mardi 1 octobre 2024 • Duration 31:19
Ian Hunter – an image so familiar you’d recognise his silhouette - now lives in Connecticut and he’s just released expanded versions of two of his best-selling solo albums, You’re Never Alone With A Schizophrenic and Short Back N' Sides. He’s 85, born before any of the Beatles. We talk to him here about life growing up in the ‘40s and ‘50s when your father’s a copper and “music wasn’t allowed in the house”, and touch upon …
… the debt he owes Freddie ‘Fingers’ Lee.
… café jukeboxes full of Little Richard, Chuck Berry and Fats Domino.
… beating 165 acts at a talent contest at Butlins.
… the record that made the Beatles (which they didn’t write).
… “a two-piece corduroy suit, open-toed sandals, overweight …”: the Mott the Hoople audition.
… Bowie playing All The Young Dudes – “a monster” – cross-legged on the floor in Denmark Street after they’d turned down Suffragette City.
… why Hendrix was thrown out of Regent Sound studios.
… playing the Reeperbahn in 1963.
… recording ‘Schizophrenic’ with three members of the E Street Band.
… “Do you want a cuddle?” The Mick Ronson recording method.
… the good thing about Covid.
… watching punk bands with Mick Jones.
… plus a ‘dyed-black’ Ford Anglia and the Greatest Record Ever Made.
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Bryan Ferry, Maggie Smith and why Ian Hunter is a movie in waiting
Episode 679
lundi 30 septembre 2024 • Duration 46:44
As the season of mists and mellow fruitfulness draws in, we poke the embers of this week’s rock and roll bonfire and rake out the following chestnuts …
… Maggie Smith on ‘70s chat shows.
… when Radiohead meets Shakespeare.
… the strange, circuitous and downright disgraceful launch of Francis Ford Coppola’s majestically bonkers Megalopolis.
… Chappell Roan and Sabrina Carpenter: the slow ascent of two ‘overnight sensations’.
… is it big events anymore or just a low-level hum of distraction?
… Bryan Ferry as an interpreter: why we love his clubby renditions of Dylan, Amy, Frank, Elvis, Broadway ballads and old sea shanties.
… Movies In Waiting no 97: Butlin’s, skiffle, Hamburg and Ian Hunter’s 26-year clamber to the top.
... can any film still have instant world impact?
… the unsettling structure of the Graham Norton show.
… Simon Raymonde’s dad’s oceanic jazz adventure, 1949.
… plus birthday guest Matthew North sees Wayne Rooney doing Ring Of Fire at a Plymouth open mic night.
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When Cocteau Twins followed the Ramones onstage and why 1979 was the Golden Age - by Simon Raymonde
Episode 678
vendredi 27 septembre 2024 • Duration 45:10
Simon Raymonde’s affecting and beautifully written memoir ‘In One Ear’ records life in the ‘60s growing up with a father who wrote and arranged for Dusty Springfield, Helen Shapiro and the Walker Brothers, the impossibly shy promotional activities of the Cocteau Twins and This Mortal Coil and the struggles and eventual jackpot of the Bella Union record label he founded. He’s so perceptive, observant and self-mocking and we loved this energetic podcast which, among much else, lands upon …
... why 1979 was the Golden Year.
… the time Scott Walker came to his parents’ house.
… why the Cocteau Twins might have tanked in the current age of self-promotion.
… how a loathing for Phil Collins was a Sliding Doors moment.
… the problem with bands that don’t talk to each other.
… why they refused to appear on Top Of The Pops.
… following Rancid and the Ramones at Lollapalooza in 1996 and the sobering events that ensued.
… why the Old Grey Whistle Test was “not a happy experience”.
… the cryptic language of Elizabeth Fraser’s lyrics why he never asked her what they meant.
… “if I hadn’t worked at the Beggars record shop I wouldn’t be talking to you now”.
… why bands are “less naïve now”.
… and “Cocteau Twins - swirling sepulchral shards of sound that patter like raindrops against the windows of your mind” – ©️ the Music Press in 1985.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Ear-Cocteau-Twins-Raymonde/dp/1788709381
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The deep secret of Abba’s “music without nostalgia” and the time they met the Pistols
Episode 677
mercredi 25 septembre 2024 • Duration 46:59
Abba’s biographer Jan Gradvall met and interviewed Abba many times and builds a fresh picture of their internal chemistry in his new book Melancholy Undercover. Highlights of this illuminating pod include …
… how Sweden rejected their early hits for not being sufficiently “socialist”.
…. the discomfiting early life of Anni-Frid Lyngstad.
… what Max Martin and Denniz Pop thought made Abba’s music so durable.
… Strindberg, Bergman, the climate, the eight months of darkness and the role of melancholia in Swedish pop culture.
… the influence of the Human League on their later catalogue.
… why manager Stig Anderson “became a burden”.
… “Norway has Grieg, Finland has Sibelius, Sweden has Benny …”
… the first band to write about divorce.
… the Abba song with 57 chords and the only two samples Abba ever approved.
… Elvis Costello, Joe Strummer and Ian Dury backstage at a 1979 London show.
… when Sid Vicious ran into Abba at an airport on the Pistols’ 1977 Swedish tour.
… the role of the Lionesses football team, Kurt Cobain, Erasure, U2, Madonna and the Sydney gay community in the Abba revival.
… why the Abbatars are better than Abba.
… the myth of Agnetha as “the Greta Garbo of Pop”.
… and why The Day Before You Came is more than the Abba swansong.
Order Melancholy Undercover here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-ABBA-Melancholy-Undercover/dp/0571390986
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