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Win-Win with Liv Boeree

Liv Boeree

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Frequency: 1 episode/19d. Total Eps: 57

Don't hate the players, change the game! The Win-Win Podcast is an exploration of the games that drive our world. Created by poker champion Liv Boeree, it explores solutions to humanity's biggest issues through the lens of game theory. If you want to hear from some of the greatest thinkers on earth, and help defeat Moloch by turning lose-lose dilemmas into clear win-wins, this is the show for you.

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#45 - Dominic Cummings - Stagnation, Corruption & Rebooting The System

Wednesday, July 30, 2025 • Duration 02:20:53

Dominic Cummings is one of the most polarizing figures in Britain. He's a political strategist who masterminded the main campaign for Brexit. He was also Chief Advisor to Prime Minister Boris Johnson for some of his term, including through COVID. He even had Benedict Cumberbatch play him in a movie! He's also a student of systems, having worked in or around government and civil institutions all his life, which is why I wanted to talk to him, because he's someone who has seen the depth of systemic rot pervading not just the UK, but the whole West.

In this wide-ranging, no-holds-barred conversation, Igor and I hear why our governments are collapsing under their own weight, the rise of algorithm-driven politics and civil service monopolies, and the general systemic dysfunctions hollowing out the West's institutions. We also explore whether scientific and technological leadership and a whole lot of radical transparency can save us — or if we’re already past the tipping point.

So if you’re craving real talk about power, governance, and what it might take to rebuild from the rubble, you'll enjoy this conversation!

Chapters:

01:51 - Is Dominic competitive?

07:30 - First Interest in Politics

12:18 - Beginning of his Euroskepticism

16:50 - The current state of the British regime

23:04 - His Time in No.10 Downing Street

33:00 - Who is actually in charge?

36:38 - More COVID screwups

40:05 - The Consciousness of the System

45:15: Avoiding Future pandemics

1:01:27 - Isn't the role of the government to provide stability?

1:07:17 - The Issue of Bureaucracy

1:11:57 - Machiavelli And Escaping the Wheel

1:15:53 - Singapore

1:19:34 - Digitizing the Government?

1:22:00 - Moloch, Incentives & Political sacrifice

1:25:28 - The Media Is A Simulation of Reality

1:29:12 - How to design better social media platforms

1:31:05 - Sensemaking in the AI age

1:37:24 - UK Grooming Gangs Coverup

1:48:21 - Political Gaslighting, Freedom of Speech & 2nd Amendment

1:50:38 - Blasphemy and Islamophobia Laws in UK

1:56:10 - The Sacred Cow of Multiculturalism

2:02:22 - Core Principles To Live By

2:07:48 - Smart vs Dumb Approaches to Regulation

2:17:05 - Rapid fire Predictions

Links:

♾️ Dominic’s X: https://x.com/Dominic2306

♾️ Dominic’s Substack: https://dominiccummings.substack.com

♾️ Simulacra and Simulation: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22613.Simulacra_and_Simulation?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_6

♾️ Moloch explainer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRz54V7rU4U

♾️ Brexit The Movie: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8425058/

♾️ Mary Wakefield (Dominic’s wife) response to the movie: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/benedict-cumberbatch-on-playing-my-husband-dominic-cummings/

Credits:

♾️ Hosted by Liv Boeree

♾️ Produced by Luca de Vico

♾️ Intro by Perry Sinclair

The Win-Win Podcast:

Poker champion Liv Boeree takes to the interview chair to tease apart the complexities of one of the most fundamental parts of human nature: competition. Liv is joined by top philosophers, gamers, artists, technologists, CEOs, scientists, politicians and more to understand how competition manifests in their world, and how to change seemingly win-lose systems into.

Win-Wins.Podcast links:

♾️ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWgq0OZMtwtOIyMsVM_vksqdfWcM-b68S

♾️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/03bGVUaFZmJUmEvSHNDPdI?si=64379cc23696454f

♾️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/win-win-with-liv-boeree/id1724791350

♾️ Pocketcast: https://play.pocketcasts.com/podcasts/7f708340-d17c-013b-f46e-0acc26574db2

#winwinpodcast #systemchange #politics

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#44 - Dean Spears - Population Decline Is Worse Than You Think

Thursday, July 10, 2025 • Duration 01:40:32

The world is having fewer babies than ever. But how bad is this, really? What's causing it? Is there a win-win solution out there that can help people have more babies, if they want them?

In this special "Win-Win Live" event, I speak to Professor Dean Spears - a demographer and economist whose research examines the impact of population decline. He's the author of the book "After The Spike" which explores why people are choosing to have fewer babies, and the stark realities it would mean if the population continues on its current path.

As you'll see, the latter half of this conversation opens up into a group discussion with many previous Win-Win guests who I invited to join because such a complex and sensitive topic requires as many perspectives as possible! What do you think is the solution? Let me know in the comments below.

Chapters:

0:22 - Introduction to the Fertility Crisis

4:12 - Why Over-Population Isn’t A Thing

11:17 - What’s Causing It?

16:03 - Role of Social Trends

18:20 - Role of Biological Infertility & Toxins

23:10 - Wouldn’t Fewer People Take Pressure Off The Environment?

28:56 - Climate, Ocean and Other Planetary Boundaries

32:28 - Paul Erlich and Dangers of Zero-Sum Thinking

36:25 - Can’t AI & Robots Fill The Economic Gap?

42:58 - Historical Strategies That Increased Birth Rates?48:40 - Impact of Contraception

52:57 - Which Sub-Populations Are Bucking The Trend?

57:37 - How To Help Women Have Careers And Babies?

59:56 - The Issues of A Heavily Elderly Population

1:05:13 - Examples of Successful Incentives

1:09:07 - More AI Stuff

1:17:47 - Opportunity Cost Hypothesis

#36 - Bill Perkins - Space and The Future of Satellite Imaging

Wednesday, January 29, 2025 • Duration 24:21

In this episode of the Win-Win podcast we are floating off the coast of Starbase, watching the live launch of Starship 6 with Bill Perkins.

Bill is a founder of two satellite imaging companies that aim to address environmental issues by making satellite data—once inaccessible to the public—widely available, revolutionizing everything from climate monitoring to illegal fishing enforcement. We also see a rocket launch, and Liv cries (again). Something for everyone. Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 2:17 - Launch 4:30 - Short Term Benefits of Space 5:56 - Unleashing the hive mind 6:40 - Hyperspectral 8:57 - Restrictions and Regulations on Imaging 11:30 - Use Cases 13:59 - How to Preserve Privacy? 16:40 - The Future of Satellite Imaging 20:53 - Rapid Fire Predictions Credits: ♾️ Hosted by Liv Boeree ♾️ Edited and Mixed by Jackson Page ♾️ Produced by Luca de Vico The Win-Win Podcast: Poker champion Liv Boeree takes to the interview chair to tease apart the complexities of one of the most fundamental parts of human nature: competition. Liv is joined by top philosophers, gamers, artists, technologists, CEOs, scientists, athletes and more to understand how competition manifests in their world, and how to change seemingly win-lose games into Win-Wins.

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#35 - Allison Duettman - Cooperation, Technology and the Power of Existential Hope

Episode 35

Thursday, January 23, 2025 • Duration 01:53:37

Explore the future of cooperation and technology in this thought-provoking episode of the Win Win Podcast! Liv chats to Allison Duettman from the Foresight Institute about how to harness emerging technologies like AI, nanotechnology, and blockchain to create a freer, more coordinated world. They explore concepts like "existential hope," "multipolar active shields," and "Pareto-topia," along with strategies for fostering decentralized cooperation. Allison shares her insights on navigating Moloch traps, designing resilient systems, and imagining hopeful futures. If you're curious about creating a positive, thriving future, this episode is a must-watch! Chapters: 0:00 - Intro 2:18 - Existential Hope 5:45 - Utopian vs Dystopian Art 11:00 - The Story Circle 16:03 - Naturalistic Arguments vs Transhumanism 25:29 - Foresight Institute 27:46 - World-building Hackathons 33:20 - Pareto-topia 35:24 - Making Win-Wins More Visible 41:02 - The Role of Cooperation in Society 45:38 - The Danger of Over-Centralization 50:58 - The Third Attractor 59:00 - Building the Third Attractor 1:11:00 - Crypto as a Solution to Tragedy of Commons 1:15:56 - Prediction markets 1:21:00 - AGI & the Cooperation Game 1:28:00 - Super Rationality 1:32:48 -Advice to Listeners 1:41:31 - Favorite Games 1:44:14 - Rapid fire Predictions Links: Gaming the future book: https://foresight.org/gaming-the-future-the-book/ Foresight institute: https://foresight.org Existential Hope: https://www.existentialhope.com World building hackathons: https://www.existentialhope.com/existential-hope-worldbuilding

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#34 - Igor Kurganov - Liv's World Series Poker Win and Fixing Social Media

Episode 34

Thursday, January 9, 2025 • Duration 51:52

n case you missed it, Liv just won a record-breaking $2,800,000 in the World Series of Poker last month In this episode, she and Igor discuss her victory, why it represents a win-win for both her and animals... how to fix social media... Magnus Carlsen's jeans drama, a drunken game of backgammon and much more.

Chapters: 0:00 - Intro and Backgammon 2:45 - Liv’s World Series of Poker Win 10:19 - Liv’s Charity Pledge & Cultivating Win-Wins 14:15 - The Physics of Women’s Feet 17:06 - Addressing Insecurities 19:30 - The H1B Visa Debate 20:16 - How to Fix Social Media Algorithms 39:26 - Elon Musk and X.com 44:55 - Magnus Carlsen Jeans Chess Drama 49:15 - The Multiverse Poker Tour Credits ♾️ Hosted by Liv Boeree ♾️ Edited and Mixed by Jackson ♾️ Produced by Luca DeVico The Win-Win Podcast: Poker champion Liv Boeree takes to the interview chair to tease apart the complexities of one of the most fundamental parts of human nature: competition. Liv is joined by top philosophers, gamers, artists, technologists, CEOs, scientists, athletes and more to understand how competition manifests in their world, and how to change seemingly win-lose games into Win-Wins. #winwinpodcast #poker #backgammon

#33 - Alexandra and Andrea Botez - Competition, Sisterhood and the Social Media Game

Episode 33

Sunday, December 22, 2024 • Duration 01:23:51

The Botez sisters are no strangers to competition. But how do they manage their competitive urges? How does it affect their relationship to one another, as sisters? These are just some of the many intimate topics we cover in today's Win-Win episode. Best known for their hilarious chess streaming videos, Andrea and Alexandra Botez are some of the world's most celebrated gamers - born into a household that demanded excellence, they both competed on the chess circuit to a high level before turning to streaming and launching themselves to gaming superstardom. Chess is obviously their main game, but they're starting to dominate so many other games too: Alex in poker, and Andrea in DJing! (links to those channels below). In this conversation with Liv Boeree we hear all the good, bad and ugly sides of life as women in the world of gaming. Chapters 01:19 - Who is More Competitive? 07:42 - Growing Up In Competitive Chess 15:00 - Why Games? 28:43 - Building a Youtube Audience 31:52 - Beauty Filters and Coordination Problems 35:13 - The Hotness Dilemma 52:31 - Sexism in Chess vs. Poker 1:00:09 - Magnus Carlsen 1:01:50 - Trash Talking 1:03:30 - FIDE and Centralized Rules 1:07:04 - Weirdest Moments Playing Chess 1:10:10 - The Future of Botez? - Rapid-fire Predictions Credits ♾️ Hosted by Liv Boeree ♾️ Edited and Mixed by Ryan Kessler

#32 - Scott Aaronson - The Race to AGI and Quantum Supremacy

Episode 32

Wednesday, December 4, 2024 • Duration 02:25:20

How fast is the AI race really going? What is the current state of Quantum Computing? What actually *is* the P vs NP problem? - former OpenAI researcher and theoretical computer scientist Scott Aaronson joins Liv and Igor to discuss everything quantum, AI and consciousness. We hear about his experience working on OpenAI's "superalignment team", whether quantum computers might break Bitcoin, the state of University Admissions, and even a proposal for a new religion! Strap in for a fascinating conversation that bridges deep theory with pressing real-world concerns about our technological future.

Chapters:

1:30 - Working at OpenAI 4:23 - His Approaches to AI Alignment 6:23 - Watermarking & Detection of AI content 19:15 - P vs. NP 27:11 - The Current State of AI Safety 37:38 - Bad "Just-a-ism" Arguments around LLMs 48:25 - What Sets Human Creativity Apart from AI 55:30 - A Religion for AGI? 1:00:49 - More Moral Philosophy 1:05:24 - The AI Arms Race 1:11:08 - The Government Intervention Dilemma 1:23:28 - The Current State of Quantum Computing 1:36:25 - Will QC destroy Cryptography? - Politics on College Campuses - Scott's Childhood & Relationship with Competition - Rapid-fire Predictions

#31 - Kristian Rönn - Escaping The Moloch Trap

Episode 31

Thursday, October 31, 2024 • Duration 01:05:02

How do we escape Moloch’s trap for good?

In this special Burning Man edition of Win-Win, Liv forgoes the usual purple chairs for dusty playa to chat with Kristian Rönn. Kristian is the CEO and co-founder of Normative, a platform for helping industries strive for net zero emissions.

With intellectual roots in Oxford’s Future of Humanity Institute and his own mission to create positive-sum solutions to climate change, Kristian has just launched a new book - The Darwinian Trap - and in this conversation, Liv and Kristian examine solutions to the short-term thinking and cost externalisation that traditional markets often produce. A conversation full of evolutionary biology, game theory and economics as they examine solutions to the world’s deadliest demon.

Chapters

(01:42)-The Darwinian Trap
(03:42)-Why Is Coordination So Hard?
(07:19)-Unstable Equilibriums: The Butterfly Effect of Game Theory
(13:55)-Natural Selection: Capitalism's Ace In The Hole
(20:16)-How Can A Market Model Anything At All?
(22:10)-Betting On Our Values
(27:29)-What Problems Do Reputational Markets Solve?
(32:56)-Centralized Mechanisms for Overcoming The Darwinian Trap
(35:16)-The Risks of Over-Centralization
(39:46)-The Burning Man Model
(43:00)-Mixed Economies
(45:53)-Killing The Incentives or Kill The Organism?
(50:59)-The Miracle of Evolutionary Success
(54:03)-Finding Hope
(56:21)-Spreading Awareness To Defeat Moloch
(59:58)-Why Burning Man?

Links

♾️ Kristian’s New Book
♾️ Kristian’s Bio
♾️ ♾️ ♾️ ♾️ Hosted and Produced by Liv Boeree ♾️ Post-Production by Ryan Kessler

#30 - Nate Silver - Predicting Elections in Chaotic Times

Thursday, October 3, 2024 • Duration 01:35:13

Can we still accurately model elections in such chaotic times? Are prediction markets the future of news? Nate Silver thinks so - Nate is a renowned election analyst, author and former professional poker player. He's the founder of FiveThirtyEight, whose statistical models revolutionized election forecasting, earning him national acclaim. His two books "On The Edge: The Art of Risking Everything." and "Signal in Noise" are inspirations for today's Win-Win conversation with Liv and Igor. We discuss polling accuracy, the importance of prediction markets like Polymarket, poker thinking, solutions to political polarization, and of course his latest predictions on Trump vs Kamala. We also hear his theory on "The River" and "The Village" communities, defined by their opposing perspectives on risk - and how these contrasting worldviews shape approaches to everything from public health policy to technology. Chapters

00:01:34 - Predicting Elections 00:06:49 - Trump Assassination Attempt 00:11:45 - Prediction Markets 00:21:13 - Nate’s New Book on Risk 00:25:53 - Institutional screwups on COVID 00:33:30 - Why are People so Averse to Probabilities? 00:35:27 - Silicon Valley’s Blind Spots 00:40:43 - Excessively Risky Behavior 00:44:29 - Regulations 00:48:55 - Finding Common Ground 01:00:18 - Alternative Voting Structures 01:06:50 - Signal vs Noise in the AI age - Advice for Sharpening Your Models - Nate’s Maxims For A Win-Win Future Links: ♾️ Nate’s Blog: ♾️ Nate’s Twitter: Credits: ♾️ Hosted and Produced by Liv Boeree and Igor Kurganov ♾️ Post-Production by Ryan Kessler The Win-Win Podcast: Poker champion Liv Boeree takes to the interview chair to tease apart the complexities of one of the most fundamental parts of human nature: competition. Liv is joined by top philosophers, gamers, artists, technologists, CEOs, scientists, athletes and more to understand how competition manifests in their world, and how to change seemingly win-lose games into Win-Wins.

#29 - Peter Wang - Founder of Anaconda on Open Source, AI & Virtual Worlds

Episode 29

Tuesday, September 17, 2024 • Duration 02:39:56

Open-source movements have historically been a great source of collaboration. Can we harness the power of open source software, science or AI to help solve the world's coordination problems? Or could it just make everything worse? This is the main topic covered in today's episode of the Win-Win Podcast. Liv is joined by Peter Wang, a physicist, computer scientist, and founder of Anaconda, one of the most widely used open source platforms for Python development. Peter leads Anaconda’s AI Incubator, which focuses on advancing core Python technologies and developing new frontiers in open-source AI and machine learning, especially in the areas of edge computing, data privacy, and decentralized computing. In this wide-ranging conversation. we explore how these technologies, and their philosophies can potentially help us navigate the complexities of our informationally overloaded environment.

Chapters:

00:00:00 - What is Open Source Software 00:10:29 - Peter's History with The Open Source Movement

00:35:06 - Security and State Interests in Open Source

00:37:16 - Open Science and The Commons of Knowledge

00:39:40 - The Central Problem of Coordination

00:43:46 - The Solutions That Markets Solve and The Problems They Create

01:04:40 - Synchronous Attention As A Scarce Resource

01:09:23 - The Liminal Act of Modelling The World

01:19:58 - Virtuality and Colorful Dystopias

01:22:03 - Is Technology Values-Neutral?

01:32:30 - Moloch Invades The Tech Stack

01:35:57 - Psychosecurity and The Dangers of Attention-Renting Software

01:42:00 - Is The Global Community Actually Excelling in Science?

01:43:51 - Our Cosmic Scale and The Instruments To Probe It 01:53:18 - The Stagnation of Physics 01:56:06 - The Civilizational Perspective on AI Safety 02:05:23 - The Benefits of Open Source To Society 02:27:26 - Will AI Accelerate A Global Security Crisis?