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This week's caller was diagnosed with a terminal illness at eight years old. They have never not known that death was part of their life.

They are an actor, a writer, a reader, a person who rescues snails and keeps a pet millipede and loves sharks because they understand what it feels like to be misunderstood. They are also someone who has spent their entire life figuring out how to live fully inside a body that makes that complicated.

This is a conversation about what it looks like to choose life, loudly, intentionally, and without apology, when death has always been in the room.

We talk about the guilt of knowing you're going to hurt everyone who loves you, the difference between being afraid of death and being afraid of dying, and why so much of how we portray terminally ill people in media gets it completely wrong. We also get into what they hope they can do once they're gone, why they want to perform at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival even though their doctors would disagree, and the one thing they still want to experience before they die, which is not what you'd expect.

In this conversation:

• The difference between fearing death and fearing the process of dying
• Why "you don't look sick" is something we should all agree to stop saying
• The guilt of knowing your death is going to hurt the people you love most

Book recommendations: Reverie by Ryan La Sala; I Fell in Love with Hope by Lancali

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Video Episode: If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube

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About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

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Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

This week's caller is a pediatric nurse who has been around death long enough to stop fearing it and start getting curious about it.

They lost their father to suicide as a teenager. A few months later, they were the one doing CPR on their childhood best friend after an accidental fentanyl overdose. They were sixteen. They didn't become a nurse because of those losses exactly, but those losses made them someone who couldn't look away.

This is a conversation about what it looks like when death becomes a daily presence instead of a distant fear, and what a person builds out of that.

We talk about what it's like to have a job where you see about two people die every week and what your mind does to keep moving. We get into reincarnation through a video game analogy that is really fascinating, the difference between what you believe and what you hope, and why this caller's fear isn't death itself. It's leaving people behind. We also hear the story of a man who died alone because he'd told his children he never wanted to see them again, and what he asked this caller to pass on.

Content note: This episode includes a brief mention of suicide and accidental overdose. Neither is dwelt on at length.

In this conversation:

• What it actually feels like to watch someone die and how nurses keep moving after
• The three-lives theory: reincarnation, Mario, and why deja vu might mean something
• Why their fear of death is really a fear of what they'd leave behind
• What a dying man asked this caller to tell people, and why she still hears his voice

Book recommendation: Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë

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Video Episode: If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the

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About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

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Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

What does death look like when it’s part of your job?

This week’s anonymous caller is an EMT who’s around emergencies and dying on a regular basis. And because of that, this conversation doesn’t stay in the abstract for long.

We talk about what CPR actually does to the body, the gap between what people think happens in a medical crisis versus what it really looks like, and why end-of-life wishes can get complicated the moment fear enters the room.

A big thread in this call is about clarity. Not in a cold way. More like the kind of clarity you get when you’ve seen the same situations play out again and again. Especially when it comes to DNRs, family dynamics, and what people ask for on paper versus what actually happens in the moment.

In this episode:

• Seeing death up close as part of the job
• What CPR really does to the body
• Why “doing everything” can override someone’s wishes
• DNRs and how they can get complicated in real time
• How repeated exposure to death changes the way you think about it
• The caller’s own near-death experience and what it did (and didn’t) change

A few moments from the call:

• “Even if we bring you back… you’re gonna have broken ribs.”
• “Some estranged family member takes you off that DNR because you’re a fighter…”
• “Death happens to everyone… it could happen today, it could happen tomorrow.”

Book Recommendation: Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (Hunter S. Thompson)

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Video Episode: If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube.

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About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

Stay Connected
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
▶️ YouTube: When We Die Talks
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📚 Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: zach@whenwedietalks.com

Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

What happens when you’re 19 and you’re loving someone with a terminal illness?

This week’s anonymous caller is an anthropology student who’s been studying death, grief, and ritual. But that interest isn’t abstract. Their partner has a terminal illness, and it’s been sitting in the background of their life and relationship for a long time now.

A big part of this conversation is what it does to time. The way the future starts tapping you on the shoulder in normal moments. The way regret shows up early. The way even small arguments can feel “expensive” when you can’t stop doing the math in your head.

And somehow, even with all of that, this call stays surprisingly grounded. There’s love here. There’s fear. There’s humor. And there’s a level of care and perspective that’s hard to wrap your head around at that age.

In this episode:

• Loving someone with a terminal illness at 19
• Studying death academically while living close to it personally
• Anticipatory grief, and living with the awareness of what’s coming
• How conflict changes when time feels short
• Regret, presence, and the pressure to “do it right”
• The comfort of personifications of Death in literature

A few moments from the call:

• “The life expectancy was 18… and then they turned 18, didn’t keel over.”
• “We just spent the last 30 minutes arguing… that’s now 30 minutes closer to the end.”
• “It’s like a metronome… you’re just swinging.”

Book Recommendations: Hogfather and Reaper Man (Terry Pratchett)

More book recommendations from past episodes: View the full list

Video Episode: If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube.

Support the show

About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

Stay Connected
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
▶️ YouTube: When We Die Talks
🎵 TikTok: @whenwedietalks
📚 Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: zach@whenwedietalks.com

Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

What happens when your mind stops feeling like a safe place to live?

This week’s anonymous caller shares about experiencing a psychotic break in 2020, and what it changed about how they relate to death, reality, and their own sense of self. They do an unusually good job describing what psychosis can feel like from the inside, including a “movie logic” kind of certainty that’s hard to understand until you hear someone try to explain it.

A big part of this conversation is what came after. The caller talks about grounding themselves in logic and facts. Not as a debate, and not as a personality trait. More like a way to stay steady when everything had felt unreliable. From there we end up in some bigger questions too, like perception versus objective reality, how memory shifts when you revisit it, and what it can mean to believe “nothing happens” after death while still admitting how limited human comprehension is.

There’s tenderness here, and there’s also humor. At one point the caller drops the line: “this Barbie is going through it.” It’s strangely perfect.

In this episode:

• A psychotic break in 2020, and what it was like to live on the other side of it
• The feeling of being betrayed by your own mind
• Grounding in logic and facts as a way to feel steady again
• Psychosis, perception, and the gap between “my reality” and “objective reality”
• What “nothing happens” can mean, and why it might be beyond comprehension
• Identity, selfhood, and the weird edges of what we can explain

Book Recommendations: Into Thin Air (Jon Krakauer)

More book recommendations from past episodes: View the full list

Video Episode: If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube.

Support the show

About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

Stay Connected
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
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🎵 TikTok: @whenwedietalks
📚 Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: zach@whenwedietalks.com

Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

What if something big happens… and your life still mostly goes back to normal?

This week’s caller has had two heart attacks, starting when they were sixteen. On paper that sounds intense. But this conversation isn’t heavy. The caller brings a calm, laid-back energy that makes the whole episode feel surprisingly easy to sit with.

We talk about how they think about death, including a loose, pop-culture Buddhist view of reincarnation, and how they’ve learned to live with uncertainty without forcing certainty. There’s also real, grounded detail about their heart condition and what it’s like to move through life knowing your body can do unpredictable things.

One of my favorite moments is when I ask if the heart attacks changed their life, and they’re just honest: not in some permanent, movie-montage way. There was a burst of intensity, a period of “I should do everything,” and then life slowly drifted back toward normal. It’s not a lesson. It’s just true.

In this episode:

• Having a heart attack at sixteen, and how it shaped their relationship with death
• A relaxed, curiosity-forward relationship with mortality
• Reincarnation, Buddhism, and living with the unknown
• The difference between fearing death vs fearing pain
• Panic, hospitals, and what helped them stay calm in the moment
• Living with a heart condition over the long term
• A past-life documentary the caller loves: The Boy Who Lived Before

Book Recommendations: My Side of the Mountain (Jean Craighead George); The Three Musketeers (Alexandre Dumas)

More book recommendations from past episodes: View the full list

If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube.

Support the show

About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

Stay Connected
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
▶️ YouTube: When We Die Talks
🎵 TikTok: @whenwedietalks
📚 Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: zach@whenwedietalks.com

Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

What do you say to a child who asks, “Am I going to die?”

This week's caller is a physician who works with children who have cancer and has training in pediatric palliative and hospice care. In this conversation, she shares what it’s like to talk honestly with families about death. Including a story about having to tell a seven-year-old patient that she is going to die.

This is a heavier episode. The subject matter is difficult, and the conversation doesn’t shy away from that. But it’s also thoughtful and full of compassion. The call stays with what these moments actually require: clarity, presence, and care.

We talk about how children understand death and why avoiding these conversations often makes things harder. It's a conversation I promise you won't forget if you are in the right headspace for it. 

In this episode:

• Talking with children about death and dying
• What it means to tell a child the truth
• Pediatric oncology and palliative care
• Being on both sides of the hospital bed
• End-of-life conversations with children and families
• The absence of language for parents who lose a child

Book Recommendations: The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams); American Gods (Neil Gaiman)

If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube.

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About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

Stay Connected
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
▶️ YouTube: When We Die Talks
🎵 TikTok: @whenwedietalks
📚 Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: zach@whenwedietalks.com

Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

Suicide touches more lives than we often realize. And yet, it’s still something many of us don’t know how to talk about.

In this episode, an anonymous caller reflects on losing their brother to suicide and what it’s been like to live with the impact since. Rather than trying to explain what happened or search for answers, the conversation stays with the ripple effect. How loss lingers, how it reshapes relationships, and how it continues to move through the people left behind.

This is a gentle conversation. There’s grief here, but there’s also care, thoughtfulness, and room to speak without being pushed toward certainty. It offers a way to listen to a conversation about suicide without panic or sensationalism, and to better understand how much our lives affect others, often in ways we never fully see.

If conversations about suicide usually feel overwhelming, this episode offers a more approachable way in.

In this episode:

• Living with the ripple effect of suicide
• How loss continues to shape families and communities
• The impact we leave through small, everyday interactions
• Imagining what happens when we die without needing certainty
• The Egg by Andy Weir and how stories evolve in memory

Book Recommendations: The Botany of Desire (Michael Pollan)

If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube.

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About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

Stay Connected
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
▶️ YouTube: When We Die Talks
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📚 Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: zach@whenwedietalks.com

Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

Many people are curious about conversations around death but hesitate to listen because they worry it will feel emotionally overwhelming.

This episode challenges that assumption.

In this anonymous call, the conversation begins with an expectation of tears. What unfolds instead is something more layered. Grief is present. Loss is real. And still, laughter, warmth, and unexpected lightness find their way into the room.

If you’ve been curious about this podcast but unsure where to begin, this is a gentle place to start.

In This Episode:

• Expecting to cry and discovering laughter instead
• Grief that makes room for warmth, not just weight
• Green Eggs and Ham goes completely off the rails
• Why some laptops should be deleted immediately, no questions asked
• Letting uncertainty exist without needing answers

Book Recommendations: Rebecca  (Daphne du Maurier); The Picture of Dorian Gray  (Oscar Wilde); Green Eggs and Ham  (Dr. Seuss)

If you’d like to watch this conversation instead of just listening, you can find the video version on YouTube.

A Note On The Ending
Instead of a voicemail, this episode closes with a piece of writing shared by a caller from Episode 40. It’s a quiet, beautiful reflection that felt important to include here.

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About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

Stay Connected
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
▶️ YouTube: When We Die Talks
🎵 TikTok: @whenwedietalks
📚 Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: zach@whenwedietalks.com

Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.

This week’s Saturday Contemplation, A Year You’ll Never Get Back, sits with a simple truth: this year is over, regardless of how it went. Instead of turning toward regret or self-judgment, this reflection invites you to look back gently at how you spent the time you were given. What filled your days, what quietly shaped you, and what this past year reveals about the life you were actually living.

This contemplation is also the final release from the project this year. As the year comes to a close, it offers a moment to pause before rushing ahead, to acknowledge what’s been carried, and to consider how you want to meet the year to come. Wherever you find yourself listening, I hope this creates a little space to reflect, to breathe, and to mark the passing of another year. Wishing you a restful holiday season and a gentle start to the new year.

Starting in January, Saturday Contemplations will be fully moving to Substack to keep things cleaner and easier to follow. If you’d like to continue receiving these reflections, you can sign up at https://whenwedietalks.substack.com/

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About When We Die Talks: When We Die Talks is a podcast built around anonymous conversations about death, loss, and how contemplating mortality shapes the way we live. If you’re new here, start with the Episode Guide. It’s designed to help you find conversations that match where you’re at—curiosity, grief, hesitation, or openness.

Stay Connected
🌐 Website: whenwedietalks.com
📰 Substack: When We Die Talks
📸 Instagram: @whenwedietalks
▶️ YouTube: When We Die Talks
🎵 TikTok: @whenwedietalks
📚 Anonymous Book Recommendations
✉️ Email: zach@whenwedietalks.com

Want to share your thoughts? Leave a voicemail at 971-328-0864 and share what you believe happens when we die. Messages may be featured in a future episode. If you’d like to have a full conversation, you can apply to be an anonymous caller at whenwedietalks.com.