What Editors Want Podcast – Details, episodes & analysis

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What Editors Want Podcast

James Durston

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Frequency: 1 episode/100d. Total Eps: 11

Interviews with working editors and writers, discussing the business of freelance journalism and writing. How to pitch and win assignments, anecdotes about life as a freelancer and editor, who pays what and more.

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🇨🇦 Canada - careers
03/07/2026
#91
🇨🇦 Canada - careers
04/03/2025
#76
🇬🇧 Great Britain - careers
19/01/2025
#74

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Should you join a writing society? Interview with Pres. of the Society of American Travel Writers

Tuesday, January 14, 2025 • Duration 39:43

I sit across Zoom with 'Chez' Chesak, a travel writer, veteran of the travel industry, Executive Director of the Outdoor Writers Association of America and recently elected President of the Society of American Travel Writers.

Also available on YouTube (below), Apple Podcasts and Spotify:

Topics of discussion include:

(01:51) - How Chez still pitches like the rest of us (when he has time) and his disappointment with some of the feedback he gets from editors (03:52)- His aims with the associations he runs, and how he hopes to build communities that collaborate to form a kind of symbiotic, harmonious ecosystem of travel industry stakeholders (11:00) - What introverts can do to get over the intimidating aspects of networking and event-going (17:05) - How the blogging world offers an alternative way to get your stories out there (19:09) - The costs, time and financial, of attending networking events, and to make sure you get what you can out of them (23:19) - The red flags to look out for in badly run associations (32:49) - How influencers represent a new challenge for associations and brands alike Further reading:

Chez's personal website: https://chezconnects.com/Outdoor Writers Association of America: http://www.owaa.org/Society of American Travel Writers: https://satw.org/

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The 'enshitification' of travel writing - this publisher has a warning for travel brands

Monday, January 13, 2025 • Duration 38:44

Matt Barker, CEO at Horizon Guides, talks about the 'enshitification' of the travel content world - how for the past 10 years every brand and company has tried to become a media company and publisher on the side, with disastrous results. His company Horizon Guides uses specialist writers and niche topics to offset this, trying to expose people to unsung places and experiences, rather than the tired and over-subscribed ones.

Travel writing career tips: https://www.skool.com/mediamatrix/about

Daily calls for pitches from editors Weekly story idea and pitch reviews Courses and resources to build your travel writing career

You can also watch this interview on YouTube:

Also covered:

Trying to stand out by being blisteringly honestThe niche benefits of being a small publisherThe commissioning policyWhen and how to use ChatGPT in travel writingHow Google's algorithm affects travel publishingHow 'information gain' can help with SEOWriters and the need to create a 'knowledge graph' with GoogleUsing email lists to offset Google's changesUsing intuition, not playing the SEO gameOne project that didn't quite die

Keywords: travel writing, travel blogging, travel content creation, demand generation, niche travel, honest travel reviews

Want to stand out as a travel writer? This video explores unconventional content creation and the power of honest reviews in the travel industry. Our guest, Matt Barker, founder of Horizon Guides, shares his journey from marketing to travel writing and the challenges of today's travel media landscape.

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'Voice' in travel writing | Interview with writer, editor, author Chuck Thompson

Saturday, January 11, 2025 • Duration 33:09

Chuck Thompson was editorial director at CNNGo as it grew from a brand new lifestyle content experiment into one of the world's most popular travel websites. He achieved this by injecting 'voice' into the content and enlisting and/or training writers to did the same with their stories. Here's what that means, and how writers can use voice to inject personality into their writing.

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Travel Writing Insights: Finding Your Voice with Chuck Thompson

What is "Voice" in Travel Writing? [00:13:22 - 00:16:44] Chuck Thompson defines voice as the personality you bring to your writing. Key takeaways include: Write as if you're talking to friends, not your grandparents Think of it like your "pub talk" - a slightly cleaned-up version of how you naturally communicate Voice is about being authentic while still maintaining professionalism

The Evolution of Travel Writing [00:05:31 - 00:07:45] Thompson highlights two major types of travel writing: Narrative/Experiential Writing Traditional style of describing exotic destinations Sharing personal experiences and observations Less common in modern media

Service Journalism Practical information for travelers How to book flights, find hotels, discover local cuisine More prevalent in digital media

Developing Your Writing Voice [00:18:29 - 00:20:08] Tips for Emerging Travel Writers: Read widely and absorb different writing styles Don't simply imitate other writers Find your unique perspective Be willing to adapt to publication styles Use opinions to engage readers

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Travel writing from scratch - Interview with Portugal journalist Lucy Bryson | Travel Writing Skool

Friday, January 10, 2025 • Duration 36:36

Lucy Bryson jetted out of Manchester, UK, many years ago and headed to Brazil, without knowing the language and with little in the way of travel writing experience. But now, even as a single mother, she has carved a niche as a travel writer specialising in Portugal and Brazil with bylines in BBC Travel, AFAR, Wanderlust, Vice, Time Out, Fodor's Travel, Atlas Obscura, DK Eyewitness Guides, easyJet Traveller, USA Today, and Rough Guides, among others.

Travel writing career tips: https://www.skool.com/mediamatrix/about

Daily calls for pitches from editorsWeekly story idea and pitch reviewsCourses and resources to build your travel writing career

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Key Insights for Aspiring Travel Writers: Career Path and Language Skills

* [00:01-02:20] Started from scratch in Brazil, learned Portuguese without prior knowledge

* Developed language skills through immersion and Brazilian locals' patience

* Initially worked in local newspapers and magazine journalism

Breaking into Travel Writing

* [03:31-05:04] Transitioned from general journalism to travel writing in Brazil

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Niche vs generalist: Interview with 'dog-friendly travel' writer Lottie Gross

Tuesday, January 7, 2025 • Duration 37:02

I discuss the pros and cons of 'niching down' as a travel writer. Freelance travel journalist and author Lottie Gross, who runs the Talking Travel Writing newsletter, describes how falling into the niche of dog-friendly travel has opened up opportunities and marked her as an 'expert' in this under-served market.

Travel writing career tips: https://www.skool.com/mediamatrix/about

These podcasts are available on Substack, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and you can watch the interview on YouTube.

Travel Writing: Niche vs. Generalist - Insider Insights with Lottie Gross

Experienced travel writer Lottie Gross shares her journey from generalist to dog-friendly travel writing specialist, offering valuable insights for aspiring travel writers.

* How Lottie accidentally discovered her niche in dog-friendly travel* Pros and cons of specializing vs. being a generalist* Why building experience first can help generalist writers* The competitive landscape of travel writing* Benefits of finding a unique niche in travel writing

Main Takeaways:

🔑 Starting as a generalist can help you build a broad portfolio 🐶 Finding an underserved niche can create unique opportunities 💰 Diversifying income streams is crucial for freelance writers 🌍 Specialization can lead to becoming an industry expert

About Lottie: Award-winning travel writer, author of dog-friendly travel books, and co-founder of the Travel Writing Substack.

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How a struggling travel writer finally wrote for CNN, SCMP, NatGeo and more

Monday, July 22, 2024 • Duration 30:05

In this podcast episode James talks to Philipp Meier, a former accountant from Switzerland who moved to Thailand a few years ago to chase his dream of being a travel writer. After years of writing for small publications for free, Philipp recently broke through to some better known publications such as CNN Travel, Nat Geo Traveller, and South China Morning Post. James and Philipp discuss his journey, examine what he did that finally saw him win commissions at big name titles, and discuss some of the dos and don’ts if you’re a wannabe travel writer pitching to editors.

More tips at https://travelwriteearn.com/.

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Interview with Lola Akinmade, travel photographer & writer for NYT, Nat Geo, Travel + Leisure and many more

Monday, December 19, 2022 • Duration 00:40

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit whatedswant.substack.com

For the first podcast on What Editors Want I spoke with travel photographer and writer Lola Akinmade, who has one of the most impressive resumes in the business. She explains how she got into the big publications, what qualities she thinks helped her succeed, how she gets commissioned for 60% of the pitches she makes, as well as one shamefully embarrass…

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$17K month as a travel writer | How to get those big retainers

Thursday, September 18, 2025 • Duration 44:49

Georgie Darling just hit her biggest month and year as a travel writer, pulling in $17K in one month alone. Her secret? Multiple retainers, and going after clients with big budgets. Take a look at our conversation in the video.

Georgie's LinkedIn AMA: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7372188475426521090/

Georgie's coaching: https://thefreedomroute.com/

Travel writing career tips: https://www.skool.com/mediamatrix/about

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How to sell stories to BBC Travel, Travel + Leisure & more with no experience

Tuesday, September 9, 2025 • Duration 01:17:42

When Phil Thomas was made redundant from a white collar corporate job, he took the opportunity to chase his dream of being a travel writer. Starting from zero (no experience, no network) he took just a few months to see his name in BBC Travel, Travel + Leisure, The Independent, Conde Nast Traveler and more, getting paid for his stories. So how did he do it?

Phil's blog: https://www.someoneelsescountry.com/

Phil's BBC Travel article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/travel/article/20250801-are-the-worlds-most-beautiful-islands-in-danger

Travel Writing Skool: https://www.skool.com/travel-writing/about

More travel writing interviews and videos: https://www.youtube.com/@travelwriting

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'Lazy' travel blogging | No goals, just fun

Monday, February 10, 2025 • Duration 31:42

I talk to David Gilbert, a software engineer by training and a digital product manager by trade, but a travel blogger by night/spare time. He has written his blog randomwore.com for 20 years, and has a refreshingly 'no goals' approach to his blog. No traffic goals, no money goals, very little SEO optimisation, just travel blogging for the joy of it.

You can also watch this interview on YouTube:

Topics covered:

00:00 - Introduction – David’s background as a product manager and blogger 01:04 - How the Blog Started – An escape from everyday work 02:16 - Became a Travel Blog After Moving to China – How relocating changed the blog’s direction 05:22 - Organic Traffic from Reddit, Google, and Email – How people find the blog 06:35 - Why David Has Chosen Not to Monetize – No ads, no revenue, just passion 07:10 - No SEO Either – Writing purely for enjoyment, not optimization 07:46 - Choosing Not to Compete with Mainstream Topics – Avoiding over-covered locations 08:22 - Focusing on Lesser-Visited Places, Especially Pilgrimage Trails – Interest in hidden gems 09:35 - How Day-Job Burnout Led to a Two-Month, 1,400-km Trek – A life-changing journey 10:13 - 50 Blog Posts and a Book from the Pilgrimage – Writing daily during the journey 12:06 - No Pressure, No Schedule for Posts – A relaxed approach to blogging - Looking for Visually or Historically Interesting or Under-Exposed Stories – What makes a good post - Researching Experiences After, Not Before – Allowing for serendipity while traveling - Not Worried About Irregular Posting – No stress over breaks in content - Trying to Mix Asian and European Topics – Transitioning after moving to Germany - Design and Tech Also Mixed In with Travel Posts – Observing user experience in Japan - How an Observation About Subway Gates Led to a Popular Post – Cultural design differences - How a Post About Website Design in Japan Became the Most Popular – A viral article - Writing About the Most Dangerous Pilgrimage Trail in Japan – An intense 10-day trek - On His Functional Writing Style Blended with Personal Feelings – A simple but effective approach - Avoiding Controversy and Being Responsible as a Travel Blogger – Staying mindful of influence - Doing All This Without Speaking the Languages in China or Japan – How he manages - Final Thoughts & Blog Details – Where to find David’s work

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