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Police in New Jersey arrested a woman found sleeping in her car in a strip mall parking lot after the plates came back registered to a stolen vehicle. Her lawyer, Tennessee segregationist Jack Kershaw, insisted that his client was not only innocent, but said she was telling the truth - she really was a Romanian princess.

Sources:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1509995/HRH-Prince-Carol-of-Romania.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1979/12/23/archives/new-jersey-weekly-the-princess-and-the-police-once-upon-the.html

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/07/15/Lawsuit-against-princess-dismissed/2985395553600/

https://stiri.botosani.ro/stiri/actualitate/paul-de-romania-mai-are-un-frate-printul-alexandru.html

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After losing his job, an ex-Disney employee tried to get his former employer's attention by hacking in and making strange updates to company files.

Original Air Date: 6.5.25

Sources:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69534211/united-states-v-scheuer/
https://www.eeoc.gov/what-you-can-expect-after-you-file-charge
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/26/us/disney-worker-prison-hacking.html

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Decades before he sculpted a Confederate general out of old bathtubs, Jack Kershaw briefly represented his most famous client - Martin Luther King Jr's assassin, James Earl Ray. The relationship soured after Ray discovered his lawyer had pocketed a payment from Playboy magazine.

Sources:

James McKinley, "Playboy Interview: James Earl Ray," Playboy Magazine, September 1977

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/08/09/archives/polygraph-indicates-ray-lied.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/10/25/archives/james-earl-ray-wants-mark-lane-to-replace-his-tenth-lawyer.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/sports/the-barkley-marathons-few-know-how-to-enter-fewer-finish.html

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Molly interviews Michael Edison Hayden about his new book, Strange People on the Hill: How Extremism Tore Apart a Small Town. The book is an intimate portrait of what happened in Berkeley Springs, West Virginia after a white nationalist group moved into the castle on the hill.
Preorder the book now or buy it anywhere books are sold when it comes out on April 7, 2026

https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/michael-edison-hayden/strange-people-on-the-hill/9781645030607/ 

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Jack Kershaw created his most famous piece of art in his 80s. His lifelong passion for the arts had to take a backseat when he shifted his focus to becoming a professional racist during the fight against integration. He was doing it for his confederate ancestors, he would often say. But he was never very specific about who exactly his ancestors were...

The It Could Happen Here episode mentioned, originally aired 2/22/2024 -
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ZQAqsxImsNGQUTzHGKhNp

Sources:

https://thesewaneepurple.org/2021/03/23/polk-sculpture-donated-by-white-supremacist-jack-kershaw/

https://thesewaneepurple.org/2021/03/22/polk-sculpture-removed-by-student-taken-to-archives/

https://meridiana.sewanee.edu/2022/04/30/a-year-later-a-letter-of-explanation/

https://www.moca.org/collection/work/unmanned-drone

https://religiondispatches.org/2025/10/28/swords-plowshares

https://www.sipcville.com/

https://www.vpm.org/news/2026-03-23/swords-into-plowshares-cville-jefferson-school-designs-hood-push-mass

https://www.vpm.org/news/2024-05-23/swords-into-plowshares-robert-e-lee-statue-charlottesville-centennial

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/23/970610428/nearly-100-confederate-monuments-removed-in-2020-report-says-more-than-700-remai

https://segregationinamerica.eji.org/report/confederate-icongraphy.html

https://wpln.org/post/even-as-statue-forrest-still-draws-fire/

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/03/30/Ray-says-lawyer-hid-Playboy-fee/1722386312400/ 

The Late Show With Stephen Colbert, August 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvCjM1lPwg4

Last Week Tonight With John Oliver, October 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5b_-TZwQ0I

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Before we leave the novels of William Luther Pierce behind us, let's take a quick look at the real Earl Turner. The protagonist of The Turner Diaries was, like all of Pierce's characters, named after a real guy he knew.

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At the end of this exploration of nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin and the novel loosely based on his crimes, the question remains: did any of his friends in the white power movement know what he was going to do before he did it? What clues does the novel hold?

Sources:
Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020

Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.

Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: Routledge

Bill Simmons, "Defendants All Acquitted In Sedition Trial," AP News, April 8, 1988

https://www.kcur.org/news/2024-04-12/overland-park-antisemitic-murders-jewish-community-center-shooting-survivors

https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article2595772.html

http://www.kansas.com/2014/04/15/3406670/records-suggest-federal-authorities.html

https://momentsthatsurvive.org/tribute/pierce-hastings/

https://www.wunc.org/2014-04-15/an-idiot-with-a-gun-leaves-families-in-kansas-reeling

https://www.kmbc.com/article/shooting-victim-remembered-for-upbeat-attitude-work-with-kids/3681879

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A closer look at the second novel by the man who wrote The Turner Diaries reveals that it isn't just about serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin... it's the author's fantasy about the man he wishes he could have been. 

Sources:

Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020

Thomas Martinez, Brotherhood of Murder: The Shocking Inside Story of The Order. McGraw Hill, 1988

Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.

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As we approach the end of the series on nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin, the rest of the timeline is filled in. Shortly after murdering two young men in Utah, Franklin was arrested at a motel in Kentucky after calling to complain that a police car had him double parked.

Sources:

Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

Ralph Echols, Life Without Mercy: Jake Beard, Joseph Paul Franklin and the Rainbow Murders,

Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: Routledge

Flynn, Kevin, and Gary Gerhardt. The Silent Brotherhood: Inside America's Racist Underground Free Press ; Collier Macmillan, 1989.

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Just about every source of information about nazi serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin gets the name of one of his victims wrong. In my search for information about the man who was murdered in Falls Church, Virginia in August of 1979, I came up mostly empty. We've erased a man from the story of his own murder because it's easier to tell a story about a racist than it is to talk about racism.

Sources:

Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

Moon, V. The middleburg mystique: A peek inside the gates of Middleburg, Virginia. Waverley Lee Media, LLC. 2016

Matthew Exline, We Have Been Waiting Too Long: The Struggle Against Racial Segregation in Loudoun County, Virginia. Have History Will Travel Press, 2020.

Carole Townsend, Blood in the Soil. Skyhorse, 2016

Douglas, John E., Ann W. Burgess, et al. Crime Classification Manual: A Standard System for Investigating and Classifying Violent Crimes. John Wiley and Sons, 2006.

The Study of the Operation of Segregated Schools in Loudoun County, Virginia conducted by Teachers in the Movement Oral History Project Research Team University of Virginia School of Education and Human Development
https://www.loudoun.gov/DocumentCenter/View/214704/The-Study-of-the-Operation-of-Segregated-Schools-in-Loudoun-County-Virginia_FINAL 

https://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/index.cfm?fa=newsinfo.displayContent&theFile=content/deathPenalty/trial

https://www.aclunorcal.org/app/uploads/2010/03/costs_of_death_penalty_trials.pdf

https://fds.duke.edu/db?attachment-34--1667-view-301

https://www.dhr.virginia.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/259-0162-0007_ShilohBaptistChurch_2017_NRHP_FINAL.pdf

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1990/04/26/middleburg/74b1854a-dca2-4b45-8bc5-7999ab4e015c/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/05/loudoun-county-segregated-schools-reparations/ 

http://www.virginiaplaces.org/government/constitution1902.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1979/08/21/turner-raymond-elton/4ae0ab2f-ef82-477d-a8f8-39ababc4c72c/ 

https://edwinwashingtonproject.org/files/original/62047/1014789_EWP_2-5A_Yr_1930_CountyWide_on_Gibbons_Lot.pdf

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After Joseph Paul Franklin was arrested in 1980, prosecutors all over the country were waiting their turn to try him for murder. After a federal prosecutor failed to convince a jury that shooting a man just for being black was a civil rights violation, they lost their confidence. But Joseph Paul Franklin was desperate to get out of the federal prison where he was serving his first few life sentences.

Sources:

Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

Thomas Martinez, Brotherhood of Murder: The Shocking Inside Story of The Order. McGraw Hill, 1988

Jessica Mitford, Kind and Usual Punishment: The Prison Business, New York, Vintage Books, 1973

Devins, Neal, "Reagan Redux: Civil Rights Under Bush" (1993). Faculty Publications. 429.
https://scholarship.law.wm.edu/facpubs/429

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1985/06/28/reynolds-nomination-voted-down/115c0520-c848-4c17-a302-209a9a9d5a4a/

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/28/us/senate-committee-rejects-reynolds-for-justice-post.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/07/us/us-rights-official-discounts-tension.html

https://virginiamercury.com/2019/04/22/can-a-local-prosecutor-decide-to-just-stop-prosecuting-marijuana-cases-the-va-supreme-court-will-decide/

https://www.hcpros.org/case-vault-1

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/02/09/us/slayer-faces-trial-in-2-apparently-racial-killings.html

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_v._Lanza

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-5/dual-sovereignty-doctrine

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/7299259/united-states-v-fields/

https://www.washingtonian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Utah-AG-Report.pdf

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4403054/mitchell-v-roberts/

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-08-02-mn-747-story.html 

https://people.umass.edu/~kastor/ceml_articles/cu_in_us.html 

https://freedomarchives.org/Documents/Finder/DOC3_scans/3.journal.prisons.prisoners.griffin.1993.pdf 

https://concrim.asc41.com/wp-content/uploads/j32.pdf 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1980/10/23/murders-of-blacks-baffle-us-officials/f8eefeac-1ca3-48de-85a0-4b9db645b01e/ 

https://www.nytimes.com/1982/02/24/us/study-accuses-justice-dept-of-waging-attack-on-civil-rights-laws.html 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/10/marion-prison-lockdown-thomas-silverstein-how-a-1983-murder-created-america-s-terrible-supermax-prison-culture.html

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When Joseph Paul Franklin hit the road to start his killing spree, his movements seemed completely random. But what if they weren't?

Sources:

Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

Fine, Morris, and Milton Himmelfard. American Jewish Year Book 1979. 1978.

Frenkel, Margaret. American synagogue directory, 1963

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-25016217

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4300634/zink-v-lombardi/

https://isthmus.com/archive/from-the-archives/in-cold-blood/

https://www.almd.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2022-04/OH-transcript-baxley.pdf

https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/crime/2014/04/14/timeline-hate-filled-life/7712569/

https://law.justia.com/cases/missouri/supreme-court/2000/sc-81859-1.html

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Last week, we looked at the nazi newletters serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin was probably reading in the leadup to his killing spree. But there is one thing we know for certain he was reading: Hustler.

Sources:

Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

Jonathan Golomb, Regulation of Indecency in Political Broadcasting, 13 U. MICH. J. L. REFORM 69 (1979).
Available at: https://repository.law.umich.edu/mjlr/vol13/iss1/5

https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/18/justice/death-row-interview-joseph-paul-franklin

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/12/12/archives/antiobscenity-drive-disputed-in-atlanta-prosecutors-campaign-widely.html 

https://www.nytimes.com/1978/03/10/archives/a-bullet-paralyzed-flynt-below-waist-his-doctor-reports-operating.html

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-courts/convicted-killer-avowed-racist-tells-of-a-life-of-rage-hatred/article_c2093272-4768-52d2-8c0b-2e0bf719c1b1.html

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In 1977, Joseph Paul Franklin started his three year killing spree, but he wasn't the only neo-nazi who murdered for the movement that summer.

Sources:

Sunshine, Spencer. (2024). Neo-Nazi terrorism and countercultural fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege. Taylor & Francis.

Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020

Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

Gardell, Mattias. “Lone Wolf Race Warriors and White Genocide.” Cambridge University Press eBooks, 2021, https://doi.org/10.1017/9781108609760.

Bart Schuurman, Lasse Lindekilde, Stefan Malthaner, Francis O'Connor, Paul Gill & Noémie Bouhana (2017): End of the Lone Wolf: The Typology that Should Not Have Been, Studies in Conflict & Terrorism, DOI: 10.1080/1057610X.2017.1419554

Jeffrey Kaplan (2014) Mel Ayton. Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin , Terrorism and Political Violence, 26:5, 855-857

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Molly interviews Christopher Mathias about his new book, To Catch a Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right. It's a rollicking tale of infiltrating nazi groups and exposing their private communications to dox them en masse. 

Preorder Chris' book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767 

The article Chris mentioned about Spit & Dan: https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/

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Part One: Frank Abbott Sweeney Jr may be the Forrest Gump of American white supremacy in the 20th century. Starting with a failed bank robbery for the American Nazi Party in the 60s, Frank stumbled his way into being an inconsequential side character in major historical events for decades.

Original Air Date: 8.28.24

Part Two: In part two of the life of the Forrest Gump of fascism, Frank Sweeney leads the CIA on an international goose chase, befriends and then betrays a serial killer, and just can't stop committing crimes by mail.

Original Air Date: 9.5.24

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Years before he set off on his three year killing spree, Joseph Paul Franklin left his home in Alabama to attend a nazi conference in Virginia. 

Sources:

Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011

Belew, Kathleen. Bring the War Home : The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America. Harvard University Press, 2018.

Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: Routledge

Kaplan, Jeffrey. (2022). No Longer Alone: Lone Wolves, Wolf Packs, and Made for Web TV Specials. In: Perry, B., Gruenewald, J., Scrivens, R. (eds) Right-Wing Extremism in Canada and the United States . Palgrave Hate Studies. Palgrave Macmillan, Cham.

Saslow, Eli. Rising Out of Hatred: The Awakening of a Former White Nationalist. Anchor, 2018.

Malthaner, Stefan, et al. “Scattered Attacks: The Collective Dynamics of Lone-Actor Terrorism.” Perspectives on Politics, vol. 22, no. 2, Dec. 2023, pp. 463–80. https://doi.org/10.1017/s1537592723002852.

Bart Schuurman, Lasse Lindekilde, Stefan Malthaner, Francis O'Connor, Paul Gill & Noémie Bouhana (2017): End of the Lone Wolf: The Typology that Should Not Have Been, Studies in Conflict & Terrorism, DOI: 10.1080/1057610X.2017.1419554

Pantucci, Rafaello. A Typology of Lone Wolves: Preliminary Analysis of Lone Islamist Terrorists. (London: International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation and Political Violence (ICSR), 2011): 14-31.

Gardell, Mattias. “Lone Wolf Race Warriors and White Genocide.” Cambridge University Press, 2021.

https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/NCITF-Final-Paper.pdf

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/movement-and-madman/#part01

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1969/11/20/november-mobilization/

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/nixons-secret-plan-for-ending-the-vietnam-war-nuclear-annihilation-of-vietnam/

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In 1965, a car full of klansmen shot and killed Viola Liuzzo, a white woman from Detroit who volunteered to drive civil rights activists back to Selma after the march to Montgomery. The FBI immediately kicked into overdrive to drag her name through the mud.

Sources:

Stanton, Mary. From Selma to Sorrow: The Life and Death of Viola Liuzzo. Athens: University of Georgia Press, 1998

Mendelsohn, Jack. The martyrs : sixteen who gave their lives for racial justice. Harper & Row 1966

https://www.justice.gov/crt/case-document/micheal-schwerner-james-chaney-andrew-goodman

https://famous-trials.com/mississippi-burningtrial/1978-barnetteconfession

https://mississippiencyclopedia.org/entries/schwerner-michael/

http://repository.wustl.edu/concern/videos/7p88cm77s

https://voicesofdemocracy.umd.edu/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-long-not-long-speech-text/

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/sunday/the-sunday-edition-september-10-2017-1.4280530/daughter-of-civil-rights-worker-murdered-in-selma-on-racism-white-supremacy-and-her-mother-s-legacy-1.4280754

https://archive.org/details/martyrssixteenwh00mend/page/176/mode/2up

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When the man responsible for bombing a federal building in Oklahoma City was arrested, he was carrying a page of his favorite book. The book had been sold at gun shows and in ads in nazi newsletters for years, but suddenly the rest of the country was asking... can a book kill?

Sources:

Berger, J.M. "The Turner Legacy: The Storied Origins and Enduring Impact of White Nationalism’s Deadly Bible", The International Centre for Counter-Terrorism - The Hague 7, no. 8 (2016).

Belew, Kathleen. Bring the War Home : The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America. Harvard University Press, 2018.

Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege (1st ed.). New York, NY: Routledge

Pierce, Kelvin. Sins of My Father, Growing Up with America's Most Dangerous White Supremacist. Independently Published, 2020

Martin Durham, White Rage: The Extreme Right and American Politics (new
york: routledge, 2007)

Gardell, Mattias (2003). Gods of the Blood: The Pagan Revival and White Separatism. Durham: Duke University Press.

Kaplan, Jeffrey (July 2018). "America's apocalyptic literature of the radical right". International Sociology. 33 (4): 503–522

Flynn, Kevin, and Gary Gerhardt. The Silent Brotherhood: Inside America's Racist Underground Free Press ; Collier Macmillan, 1989.

Michael, George(2003) 'The revolutionary model of Dr William L. Pierce', Terrorism and Political Violence, 15: 3

Michael, George(2010) 'Blueprints and Fantasies: A Review and Analysis of Extremist Fiction', Studies in Conflict & Terrorism, 33: 2

Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.

Cullick, Jonathan S. “The Literary Offenses of a Neo-Nazi: Narrative Voice in ‘The Turner Diaries.’” Studies in Popular Culture, vol. 24, no. 3, 2002, pp. 87–99.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/guru-white-hate-william-pierce-timothy-mcveigh-831091/

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Parts 7 & 8 of the South Africa arc.

Blood River

Original Air Date: 4.17.25

In 2002, a terrorist group failed to assassinate Nelson Mandela. In 2012, a plot to assassinate Jacob Zuma was foiled. Both plots were attempts to fulfill a prophecy and renew a bloody covenant with God.

Sources:

Thompson, Leonard L. The Political Mythology of Apartheid. Yale University Press, 1986. 
FA Mouton (1995) F A van Jaarsveld (1922–1995) — a flawed genius?, , 27:1,
5-11, DOI: 10.1080/00232089585310011
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00232089585310011 

Stephney, Inez Mary.  “Race, History and the Internet: The use of the Internet in White Supremacist Propaganda in the late 1990’s, with particular reference to South Africa”
https://wiredspace.wits.ac.za/server/api/core/bitstreams/b04bdabb-ecd9-4f99-a3ae-fff55b88f483/content 

Schönteich, Martin, and Henri Boshoff. “Volk”, Faith and Fatherland: The Security Threat Posed by the White Right. Institute for Security Studies, 2003. 

Ndlovu, Sifiso Mxolisi. “Johannes Nkosi and the Communist Party of South Africa: Images of ‘Blood River’ and King Dingane in the Late 1920s-1930.” History and Theory, vol. 39, no. 4, 2000, pp. 111–32. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/2678052.

http://www.anc.org.za/content/formation-umkhonto-we-sizwe 

https://www.sahistory.org.za/people/johannes-nkosi 

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/december-16-reflection-changing-south-african-heritage 

https://scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0259-94222024000200001 

https://www.iol.co.za/news/rightwing-coup-plot-case-postponed-1491552 

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/battle-blood-river-1838 

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/origins-battle-blood-river-1838

https://web.archive.org/web/20071220164018/http://www2.univ-reunion.fr/~ageof/text/74c21e88-617.html#_ftn13

https://web.archive.org/web/20081217042554/http://history.humsci.ukzn.ac.za/files/sempapers/Adutoit2005.pdf 

https://www.litnet.co.za/adriaan-snyman-1938/

https://wiredspace.wits.ac.za/items/a64ddcfc-49eb-4680-b59d-b342d8bc358c 

https://www.news24.com/news24/five-boeremag-members-found-guilty-of-conspiring-to-murder-madiba-20150430 

https://mg.co.za/article/2004-08-03-boeremag-relied-on-rottweiler-and-kgb/  

Snyman, Adriaan. Voice of a Prophet. Vaandel Publishers, 1999. 

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Mission South Africa

Original Air Date: 5.1.25

At the end of this miniseries about white supremacist terrorism in the final years of apartheid in South Africa, this episode returns to the present day as white South Africans are lining up outside the embassy in Pretoria to claim refugee status under Trump's executive order.

Sources:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-focuses-persecution-claims-white-south-africans-seek-resettlement-2025-04-24/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/06/white-afrikaner-donald-trump-america-us-administration

https://www.dw.com/en/us-diplomat-ejected-from-new-zealand-after-mysterious-incident/a-38016563

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_departments/Parliamentary_Library/Research/FlagPost/2022/May/diplomatic-expulsions

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/may/24/australia-expels-israeli-diplomat

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59023465

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/world/americas/06ecuador.html

https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/05/29/so-how-do-you-expel-an-ambassador-anyway/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/addressing-egregious-actions-of-the-republic-of-south-africa/

https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/topic/social/

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/pool-reports-february-2-2025

https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-press-gaggle-after-air-force-one-arrival-february-2-2025/#15

https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/topic/calendar/

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-african-party-accuses-white-group-treason-over-trump-attack-2025-02-10/

https://www.enca.com/news-top-stories/ramaphosa-slams-afriforum-solidarity

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-02-13-apartheid-stratcom-agents-trump-edwin-feulner/

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/oct/24/an-indictment-of-south-africa-whites-only-town-orania-is-booming

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-africas-white-afrikaner-separatists-want-trumps-help-become-state-2025-04-03/ 

https://laist.com/news/food/milky-way-kosher-restaurant-reopens-steven-spielbergs-mom-la-legendary

https://iol.co.za/news/politics/2025-03-17-eff-condemns-us-ambassador-expulsion-vows-to-block-white-supremacist-appointment/

https://www.biznews.com/interviews/2025/02/27/us-ramaphosa-financial-sanction-anc-joel-pollak

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-03-30-new-us-envoy-might-be-even-more-conservative-than-me-joel-pollak/

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/23/africa/south-african-ambassador-ebrahim-rasool-intl/index.html

https://mistra.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/MISTRA-Statement-webinar-Implications-of-changes-in-US-administration-for-South-Africa-and-Africa.pdf 

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-03-18-rasool-diplomacy-and-global-power/

https://www.sajr.co.za/rasools-expulsion-a-crisis-not-a-hiccup/

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trumps-pick-for-ambassador-to-south-africa-actively-opposed-fight-to-end-apartheid

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/07/14/Foundation-unveils-Contra-commercials/1746553233600/

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2025-02-19-ernst-roets-leaves-solidarity-movement-to-live-out-his-calling/

https://za.usembassy.gov/u-s-refugee-admissions-program-faqs/ 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/30/us/politics/trump-south-africa-white-afrikaners-refugee.html

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Parts 5 & 6 of the South Africa arc.

The Whites' Last Stand

Original Air Date: 4.3.25

In the final days of apartheid, white extremists were getting desperate. That desperation contributed to one of the strangest political crises of the late 20th century. 

Sources:

https://dcist.com/story/12/09/24/aryan-nations/

https://archive.idavox.com/index.php/2012/09/24/the-aryan-nations-show-of-farce-in-dc/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naRGivc7Ong

Guelke, Adrian. “Political Violence and the South African Transition.” Irish Studies in International Affairs, vol. 4, 1993, pp. 59–68. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/30001810. 

https://antifainfoblatt.de/aib24/suedafrika-machtkampf-krieg-auf-kleiner-flamme 

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/white-supremacist-arthur-kemp-steps-leader-neo-nazi-group-national-alliance/ 

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/26/world/white-separatists-storm-south-african-negotiations.html?fbclid=IwAR2oDpPTYh0q173RdYwv5cox59uhpyHBrQdGfC65L22gY7pZAcwbArH8BkI

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/how-the-volk-myth-died-it-took-just-a-few-minutes-to-change-the-course-of-south-african-history-john-carlin-reports-from-mafikeng-1428703.html 

https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/amntrans/1998/98092123_mma_mmabath3.htm 

https://web.archive.org/web/20140503185912/http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/newsticker/rechte-in-suedafrika-rekrutieren-internationale-soeldner---politikermord-lautet-ein-auftrag-die-killer-kamen-von-der-reeperbahn,10917074,8820188.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/13/world/a-homeland-s-agony.html?sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2 

https://mg.co.za/article/1994-06-17-foreign-hooligans-embarrass-awb/

https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/media%5C1997%5C9708/s970821c.htm

https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/amntrans%5Cpta/2derby1.htm

Death of Apartheid: The Whites’ Last Stand. (1995, May 28). Brian Lapping Associates.

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The Jamboree in Jamba

This is the very strange story of the time Dolph Lundgren starred in a piece of apartheid propaganda.

Sources:

Bellant, Russ. Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party. South End Press, 1991.

Abramoff, Jack. Capitol Punishment: The Hard Truth about Washington Corruption from America’s Most Notorious Lobbyist. WND Books, 2011.

Easton, Nina. Gang of Five: Leaders at the Center of the Conservative Crusade. Simon & Schuster, 2000.

Ivon, David. “Touting for South Africa: International Freedom Foundation.” Covert Action Information Bulletin, 1989.

Blumenthal, Sidney (December 1983). "Let Lehrman Be Reagan". The New Republic.

Cachalia, Firoz and Mervyn Shear. WITS: A University in the Apartheid Era. Wits University Press, 2022.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-02-13-apartheid-stratcom-agents-trump-edwin-feulner/ 

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-11-13-atrocious-crimes-apartheid-hitmans-brutal-confessions-serve-as-a-warning-for-south-africans/ 

https://mg.co.za/article/2008-05-29-the-spy-who-lost-it/ 

https://mg.co.za/article/2001-03-23-the-height-of-hypocrisy/ 

https://disa.ukzn.ac.za/sites/default/files/pdf_files/SNSep83.pdf 

https://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/archive-files4/SNNov83.pdf 

https://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/archive-files4/SNOct80.pdf 

https://staging.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/archive-files3/pam19870826.026.009.583.pdf

https://antifainfoblatt.de/aib24/suedafrika-machtkampf-krieg-auf-kleiner-flamme

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/48870988/volume-36-number-07-university-of-the-witwatersrand 

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/38832258/volume-36-number-13

https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/06/293602.html?c=on 

https://www.sahistory.org.za/sites/default/files/archive-files2/pam19811200.026.009.580.pdf 

https://harpers.org/archive/2008/08/the-wrecking-crew/ 

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/06/world/4-rebel-units-sign-anti-soviet-pact.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1985/06/10/world/reporter-s-notebook-angola-s-children-of-war.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20060128022735/http://www.alternet.org/story/13134/

https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZAWCHC/1996/3.pdf 

https://www.georgeherald.com/News/Article/Local-News/robert-hall-pioneer-in-medical-equipment-dies-20170711 

https://mg.co.za/article/1996-04-04-noseweek-case-takes-a-new-turn/

https://www.nonproliferation.org/wp-content/uploads/npr/73gould.pdf

https://www.salon.com/2005/08/17/abramoff_2/ 

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/09/movies/south-africa-helps-us-film-makers-in-namibia-with-troops-and-trucks.html 

https://ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu/case-study/abramoff-lobbying-congress

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Parts 3 & 4 of the South Africa arc.

The White Wolf

Original Air Date: 3.2.25

In 1989, four Afrikaner nationalists and one German mercenary killed a security guard at a United Nations outpost in Namibia. After escaping from custody, they fled home to South Africa.  A possibly non-existent group called The White Wolves took credit for the wave of bombings that followed.

Sources:

Du Preez, M. (2010). Pale native: Memories of a Renegade reporter. Zebra Press. 

Rotberg, Robert (1988). The Founder: Cecil Rhodes and the Enigma of Power. Oxford University Press. 

Falkof, Nicky. The End of Whiteness: Satanism and Family Murder in Late Apartheid South Africa. Johannesburg: Jacana Media, 2016.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-09-09-bruce-and-leonard-a-sad-african-immigrant-tale-of-injustice/

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/19/world/outjo-journal-un-namibia-team-makes-some-unlikely-friends.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20010429091808/http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/spec/aress14-1.htm 

https://www.saflii.org/za/cases/ZASCA/1999/72.html 

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/08/11/Gunmen-attacked-a-UN-peace-keeping-force-adminstrative-headquarters-and/6550618811200/ 

https://ctc.westpoint.edu/the-nexus-between-far-right-extremists-in-the-united-states-and-ukraine/

https://digitalcommons.unomaha.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1043&context=ncitereportsresearch

https://web.archive.org/web/20181118212149/https://www.iol.co.za/pretoria-news/the-day-wit-wolf-turned-pretoria-red-with-blood-18125595 

https://www.jordanharbinger.com/bradley-steyn-undercover-with-mandelas-spies-part-one/ 

https://theafricancriminologyjournal.wordpress.com/2022/02/04/south-africa-the-strijdom-square-massacre/ 

https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/us-wit-wolf-slaughter-1873433 

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/what-became-of-the-big-wit-wolf-424408 

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White Guns for Hire

Original Air Date: 3.27.25

In 1994, a second group of mercenaries arrived at the airport in Johannesburg... but no one was there to pick them up. Their host had been arrested days earlier, after the last group of mercenaries she'd hosted got into a deadly shootout with the South African police. But how did all these Germans end up in South Africa in the first place?

Sources:

Simonelli, F. J. (1999). American Führer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. University of Illinois Press.

Krott, R. (2008). Save the last bullet for yourself: A soldier of fortune in the Balkans and Somalia. Casemate. 

Eisenberg, D. (1967). The Reemergence of Fascism. Barnes.

https://balkans.aljazeera.net/news/balkan/2017/11/29/slobodan-praljak-umro-u-bolnici

Bartholomäus Grill: German right-wing radicals shoot in South Africa: License plate D. In: Die Zeit . No. 13 , 25 March 1994

Antifaschistisches Autorenkollektiv: Drahtzieher im braunen Netz : Ein aktueller Überblick über den Neonazi-Untergrund in Deutschland und Österreich. Konkret Literatur Verlag, 1996,

https://etd.library.emory.edu/concern/etds/jm214q33q?locale=it

https://js.emory.edu/news/news-stories-container/Using%20South%20African%20Archives%20to%20Study%20PostWorld%20War%20Two%20Antisemitism%20and%20White%20Supremacist%20Networks.html 

https://scholar.ufs.ac.za/server/api/core/bitstreams/c7f1b03d-343d-4abf-bcb3-e508f43dbc90/content 

https://antifainfoblatt.de/aib99/dressed-kill

Searchlight Magazine, issues July, August, September 1996

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For the end of the year reruns, Weird Little Guys is revisiting the longest, strangest story of 2025 - the South Africa arc. Those eight episodes tell the strange story of how one little skinhead rally in California in 2012 connects to a vast international conspiracy to stop the election of Nelson Mandela in 1994.

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The White House Weighs in on White Genocide

Original Air Date: 2.27.25

In February of 2012, racist skinheads in California rallied at the capitol building in Sacramento. They were trying to raise awareness for an imaginary problem - an ongoing genocide against white South African farmers. In February of 2025, the President of the United States signed an executive order stripping foreign aid from South Africa as punishment for that same imaginary problem.

Sources:

Falkof, Nicky. (2022). Worrier state: Risk, anxiety and moral panic in South Africa. Manchester University Press.

Whiteness, Afrikaans, Afrikaners: Addressing Post-Apartheid Legacies, Privileges and Burdens. The Mapungubwe Institute for Strategic Reflection (MISTRA), 2018.

Holmes, Carolyn. Victimhood for an Audience: Portrayals of Extra-Lethal Violence and their Utility for Self-Identified Victims
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b6672f43c3a5320c2bec900/t/5c98fd14a4222fc0ef950ccd/1553530134194/Victimhood+for+an+Audience+-+March+2019.pdf 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-trump-south-africa-tucker-carlson-far-right-influence

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/23/trump-orders-close-study-of-south-africa-farmer-killings

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-staff-usaid-met-group-called-apartheid-so-called-injustice_n_5af5dcb6e4b00d7e4c1a6571

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/anti-genocide-protests-around-nation-were-organized-neo-nazis/

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/campus-group-weighs-south-african-violence-targeting-whites/

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/dangerous-myth-white-genocide-south-africa/

https://africasacountry.com/2018/02/searching-for-white-genocide-in-south-africa/

https://unicornriot.ninja/2018/far-right-racists-push-fake-south-africa-white-genocide-narrative/

https://goodauthority.org/news/misinformation-south-africa-new-land-act-trump-musk/

https://www.jurist.org/features/2025/02/11/explainer-understanding-the-south-africa-land-reform-law-that-provoked-trumps-ire/

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-fearmongers-about-land-reform-south-africa

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/trumps-south-africa-tweet-tucker-carlson-has-turned-white-nationalist-narrative

https://africacheck.org/sites/default/files/Final-Report-Committee-of-Inquiry-Farm-Attacks-July-2003.pdf 

https://africasacountry.com/2018/05/flight-of-the-boers 

https://www.news24.com/News24/afriforums-own-farm-murder-stats-dont-support-their-claims-20180507 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-15/dutton-wants-australia-to-help-white-south-african-farmers/9550050

https://www.news24.com/news24/opinions/analysis/donald-trumps-sa-tweet-how-he-got-the-message-20180823 

https://theconversation.com/peter-duttons-fast-track-for-white-south-african-farmers-is-a-throwback-to-a-long-racist-history-93476

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/22/south-africa-risks-food-shortages-if-white-farmers-go-to-australia-nationals-mp-says

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/27/dutton-should-prioritise-refugees-on-nauru-not-white-south-africans-unhcr-says

https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/ramaphosa-hits-back-at-donald-trump-on-land-tweet/

https://www.parliament.gov.za/storage/app/media/Acts/2024/Act_13_of_2024_Expropriation_Act_2024.pdf 

https://www.enca.com/videos/exclusive-interview-frontrunner-become-us-ambassador-sa

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Apartheid International

Original Air Date: 3.13.25

In the last episode, we looked at a strange series of rallies held in cities across the United States in 2012 - American neo-nazis were rallying in support of white South African Farmers. But how did they get that idea in their heads? The rallies were put on by a group called The South Africa Project, run by a woman I'd never heard of. Digging into this mysterious South African, I found a lot more than I bargained for - bombings and mercenaries and an international network of fascist terror.

Sources:

https://www.24sata.hr/news/hsp-as-prisegnuli-na-vjernost-domovini-i-donaldu-trumpu-513281#google_vignette 

https://balkaninsight.com/2017/02/27/us-condemns-zagreb-neo-nazi-march-for-trump-02-27-2017/ 

https://www.icty.org/x/cases/naletilic_martinovic/cis/en/cis_naletilic_martinovic_en.pdf

https://archive.idavox.com/index.php/2012/09/24/the-aryan-nations-show-of-farce-in-dc/

https://time.com/3927339/dylann-roof-charleston-shooting-flags/ 

https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,863800,00.html 

https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/1981/0219/021960.html 

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/anti-genocide-protests-around-nation-were-organized-neo-nazis/

Visser, Myda. 1999. University of Pretoria. DIE IDEOLOGIESE GRONDSLAE EN ONlWIKKELING VAN DIE BLANKE FASCISTIESE BEWEGINGS IN SUID-AFRIKA, 1945-1995 

Hill, Ray, and Andrew Bell. The Other Face of Terror: Inside Europe’s Neo-Nazi Network. Grafton, 1988.
https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/report/finalreport/volume%202.pdf

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/june-16-soweto-youth-uprising 

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/apartheid-early-1980s

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In this minisode, Molly highlights a couple of listener answers to questions raised on the show. Most importantly, we finally find out what Dan Burros was watching on TV on November 10, 1962.

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Augustus Invictus has finally been suspended by the Florida Bar for his felony conviction for participating in a nazi torch march in 2017. But when will he actually serve his jail sentence?

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In 2017, Tyler Dykes marched in Charlottesville. In 2021, he breached the capitol. In 2026, he hopes to win a congressional election.

Sources:

https://www.postandcourier.com/beaufort-county/politics/tyler-dykes-campaign-sc1-congress/article_c255115c-45cf-430e-b4a4-160a322631e1.html

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/givesendgo-crowdfunding-extremism/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67681795/united-states-v-dykes/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/17/racist-crowdfunding-campaigns-extremist

https://www.mediamatters.org/voter-fraud-and-suppression/far-right-figure-ann-vandersteel-hosts-online-forum-election-denier

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/06/jan-6-prisoners-supporters/

https://www.counterextremism.com/supremacy/base

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/31/fbi-reveals-items-seized-base-leaders-hate-camp-michigan/4071226001/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/a-leader-of-neo-nazi-terror-group-the-base-was-just-arrested-in-michigan/

https://icct.nl/publication/bordering-hate-strategic-implications-white-supremacist-extremist-travel-between-united

https://bridgemi.com/michigan-government/fbi-neo-nazi-leader-sought-white-ethno-state-michigans-upper-peninsula/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/us/fbi-arrests-the-base-michigan.html

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This episode originally ran on October 17, 2024. There is a brief new introduction, but it's back at the top of your feed for listeners who didn't catch it the first time around. Today's regular episode picks up where this one left off.

Sources:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-who-stormed-us-capitol-begin-leave-prison-following-sweeping-2025-01-21/
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories 

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-high-water-mark-of-the-jan.-6-prosecutions 

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Tyler Bradley Dykes entered a guilty plea last year on the charge of burning an object with the intent to intimidate for his participation in the 2017 nazi torch march in Charlottesville, Virginia. He was sentenced to just six months and was probably expecting to see his parents waiting for him outside the jail on his scheduled release date... but it was the FBI who picked him up.

Sources:

https://atlantaantifa.org/2023/04/19/inside-southern-sons-active-club-part-i/

https://atlantaantifa.org/2023/04/19/inside-southern-sons-active-club-part-ii/

https://sunlight161.noblogs.org/technology-king-lowcountry-ceo-tyler-dykes-bluffton-sc-marine-nazi/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67681795/united-states-v-dykes/

https://the-devils-advocates.ghost.io/burning-hate-bond-review/

https://the-devils-advocates.ghost.io/unite-the-right-marcher-pleads-guilty-to-j6-charges/

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/white-nationalist-active-clubs-1234835015/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/charlottesville-tiki-torch-rioter-endorses-donald-trump-jan-6-sentenci-rcna162209

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Molly answers your weird little questions and shares her personal conspiracy theory about who tried and failed to assassinate a nazi in 1967.

Sources:

Donald Horton and Richard Wohl, 'Mass Communication and Parasocial Interaction:
Observations on Intimacy at a Distance', Psychiatry 19: 215-29, 1956
https://www.participations.org/03-01-04-horton.pdf

Nadora, Mikhaela, "Parasocial Relationships with Podcast Hosts" (2019). University Honors Theses. Paper 771.
https://doi.org/10.15760/honors.789

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In 2017, a man showed up at the emergency room and confessed that he'd accidentally poisoned himself with homemade ricin. He was federally charged with possessing a biological agent, but his case was dismissed on almost unbelievable technicality. But he's not the only man who thinks he can create the perfect weapon from nothing but a handful of beans.

Original Air Date: 7.31.25

Sources:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional/ajc-watchdog-north-man-arrested-for-ricin-radicalized-online/wdxws9G7zMmaUDmm22njYK/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/the-perfect-poison-ricin-used-in-3-recent-cases/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17023504/united-states-v-jordan/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6378803/united-states-v-siers-hill/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6293428/united-states-v-gibbs/

Melissa Abbes, Marc Montana, Christophe Curti, Patrice Vanelle. Ricin poisoning: A review on contamination source, diagnosis, treatment, prevention and reporting of ricin poisoning. Toxicon, Volume 195, 2021

Tucker, Jonathan B. “Dilemmas of a Dual-Use Technology: Toxins in Medicine and Warfare.” Politics and the Life Sciences, vol. 13, no. 1, 1994, pp. 51–62

Bergen, Peter, et al. “Key Trends in Terrorism.” Terrorism in America 18 Years After 9/11, New America, 2019, pp. 45–50

Leo J. Schep, Wayne A. Temple, Grant A. Butt, Michael D. Beasley. Ricin as a weapon of mass terror — Separating fact from fiction. Environment International, Volume 35, Issue 8, 2009

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/us/ricin-terrorism-plot-sentencing.html

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/cfr

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/uscode

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/744

https://thebulletin.org/2013/06/barely-lethal/

https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=6020875&page=1

https://slate.com/technology/2012/01/white-powder-hoaxes-a-trend-in-fake-terrorism.html

https://www.justice.gov/archive/tax/usaopress/2002/txdv02091.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-49434687

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/22/woman-poison-plot-mother-breaking-bad-court

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/breaking-bad-inspired-georgetown-student-charged-ricin

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-34288380

USAMRIID’s MEDICAL MANAGEMENT OF BIOLOGICAL CASUALTIES HANDBOOK, Ninth Edition
https://usamriid.health.mil/assets/docs/training/USAMRIIDs_Blue_Book_9th_edition_PDF_format.pdf

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In 2007, a white nationalist known for his addiction to causing drama claimed he saw Ron Paul at a nazi supper club. Ron Paul supporters, including those on nazi message boards, pushed back. The feud that ensued led to Curtis Maynard's fall from grace as a holocaust denial blogger - he'd been keeping a secret from his readers.

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/ron-pauls-new-organization-reportedly-stacked-extremists/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/jan/16/guiltbyassociation

https://web.archive.org/web/20071226150527/themedium.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/24/the-ron-paul-vid-lash/

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/pageoneplus/corrections.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20071221222229/http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28341_Neo-Nazis_Say-_Ron_Paul_is_One_of_Us&only

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/local/sarasota/2018/10/01/alleged-white-nationalist-peter-gemma-resigns-from-sarasota-gop-executive-committee/9732609007/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/04/07/for-holocaust-denier-theres-no-telling/057d4471-7668-4bf2-ba59-6e7f9666bb18/

http://new.wymaninstitute.org/2004/12/former-senior-aide-to-pat-buchanan-spoke-at-holocaust-deniers-meeting/

https://www.mediamatters.org/white-nationalism/white-nationalist-writer-peter-gemma-resigns-sarasota-gop-executive-committee

https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/conservativism-and-foreign-policy/182250

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/world/americas/21iht-hate.4.17140643.html 

https://roanoke.com/news/local/nazi-leader-bill-white----in-his-own-words/article_7e5c7e03-bdcf-5542-a6be-0433ba2d7aee.html 

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/assault-gets-even-ugliercontroversy-escalates-over-sexual-violence-campus/ 

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This episode originally ran on January 23, 2025. The second half of the story had to be taken down a few weeks later. That episode has now been rewritten and re-recorded. Before you listen to the newly released version of the lost episode, here's the original part one to refresh your memory.

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In 2010, a rising star in the small world of holocaust denial blogging murdered his ex-wife and then took his own life. This first chapter of his story follows his path from a troubled career as a registered nurse to his growing fame as a white supremacist blogger.

Sources:

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Lawyer-Lake-Jackson-murder-suicide-followed-1710794.php

http://www.thenation.com/article/arrows-war

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/americas-promise-ministries/

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/proclamation-5555-national-hungarian-freedom-fighters-day-1986

https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/view/Szittyakurt_USAHUN_1986/?pg=39&layout=s 

https://www.bocskairadio.org/en/an-interview-with-akos-l-nagy-president-of-the-american-hungarian-federation/

Katalin Hasulyó-Pintz. Doctoral dissertation, Identity Preservation and Diaspora Relations in the USA: the Hungarian Community of New Brunswick, New Jersey. Eötvös Loránd University, Budapest 2020

https://collections.ushmm.org/oh_findingaids/RG-50.573.0005_tcn_en.pdf

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1465015471074263044.html

https://www.yadvashem.org/docs/international-commission-on-romania-holocaust.html

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In 2017, an anti-Muslim nonprofit crowd-sourced the organization of a nationwide series of rallies. Many of the people who stepped up to help turned out to be well known white supremacists.

Original Air Date: 2.13.25

Sources:

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2017/05/portland_suspect_in_2_slayings.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/27/portland-double-murder-white-supremacist-muslim-hate-speech

https://islamophobia.org/special-reports/the-hate-that-act-for-america-wrought/

https://islamophobia.org/islamophobic-organizations/act-for-america/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidnoriega/meet-the-charming-terrifying-face-of-the-anti-islam-lobby

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/americas-most-anti-muslim-activist-is-welcome-at-the-white-house/520323/

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In the final chapter of his life, Frank Smith really did start the whites only church he first proposed to George Lincoln Rockwell.

Sources:

https://www.middlebury.edu/institute/academics/centers-initiatives/ctec/ctec-publications/christian-identitys-new-role-extreme-right

https://gnet-research.org/2023/05/10/the-revitalisation-of-christian-identity-content-on-youtube-twitter-and-tiktok/

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/01/31/Ex-Rhode-Island-mayor-sentenced-for-racketeering/5824696834000/

https://law.resource.org/pub/us/case/reporter/F2/975/975.F2d.17.92-1180.html

https://law.justia.com/cases/nebraska/supreme-court/1989/946-0.html

https://www.ellsworthamerican.com/news/legacy-of-the-commander/article_c5ebf480-2fef-536c-aee8-11a2925441a0.html

https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/2016/08/12/from-malinowski-archives-sarault-linked-financially-to-pair-with-mob-nazi-ties/26059574007/

Sunshine, Spencer. (2024). Neo-Nazi terrorism and countercultural fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of James Mason’s Siege. Taylor & Francis.

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In 1965, Frank Smith was laying low in Maine after a failed mob hit nearly killed him. He reappeared a few months later in Virginia, acting as a body guard for his new best friend, the commander of the American Nazi Party.

Sources:

Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

Rosenthal, A. M.; Gelb, Arthur (1967). One More Victim: The Life and Death of an American-Jewish Nazi. New York: New American Library

https://omim.org/entry/253300

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/10/us/ex-fbi-agent-is-charged-in-a-1981-gangland-killing.html

https://fbistudies.com/2016/06/14/the-paul-rico-case/

https://www.congress.gov/event/107th-congress/house-event/LC16939/text

https://www.congress.gov/committee-report/108th-congress/house-report/414/1

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-fbi-agent-charged-in-mob-hit/

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George Lincoln Rockwell was a nazi. Norman Rockwell was a painter. They didn't have much in common at all, but people can't seem to stop mixing them up.

Sources:

https://library.washu.edu/news/norman-rockwell-and-race-complicating-rockwells-legacy/

https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmanac/document.php?id=cqal66-1301767

https://www.nytimes.com/1966/10/06/archives/us-aide-attacks-bill-to-curb-riots-doar-in-house-testimony-doubts.html

https://www.smh.com.au/national/spy-or-nazi-20120331-1w52i.html

Berger, Alan L. Review of American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party, and: Troubled Memory: Anne Levy, the Holocaust, and David Duke's Louisiana. Holocaust and Genocide Studies, vol. 17 no. 1, 2003, p. 180-185

Gallagher, V., & Zagacki, K. S. (2005). Visibility and Rhetoric: The Power of Visual Images in Norman Rockwell’s Depictions of Civil Rights. Quarterly Journal of Speech, 91(2), 175–200.

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When Frank Smith got out of prison in 1964, he went right back to working for the New England mafia. He also joined the American Nazi Party. And he had a dream that the two organizations could work together.

Sources:
https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-boston-irish-gang-wars-terrify-a-city/

https://www.nytimes.com/1965/11/04/archives/the-boston-gang-war-a-deadly-web-of-revenge.html

https://mattofboston.com/boston-gang-wars-the-first-irish-gang-war-mclaughlin-v-mclean-introduction/

https://golocal24.com/golocal-launches-the-patriarca-papers-the-fbi-files-on-the-man-that-led-the-new-england-crime-family-for-nearly-50-years/

https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/pdfs-docs/origins/ms-littest55.pdf

https://idahopotato.com/dr-potato/length-and-circumference-of-a-potato

https://utia.tennessee.edu/cpa/wp-content/uploads/sites/106/2020/10/CPA-222.pdf

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press

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Before he joined the American Nazi Party in 1965, Frank Smith was already a career criminal working for the New England mafia.

Sources:
https://www.nytimes.com/1952/05/06/archives/friend-of-sutton-seized-as-suspect-in-schuster-death-armed-burglar.html

https://www.ellsworthamerican.com/news/legacy-of-the-commander/article_c5ebf480-2fef-536c-aee8-11a2925441a0.html

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

https://law.justia.com/cases/massachusetts/supreme-court/1961/342-mass-180-2.html

https://time.com/archive/6618452/people-visions/

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When the commander of the American Nazi Party died, he left instructions with his successor. He wanted the military funeral he was entitled to as an American veteran. It didn't go well.

Sources:

https://snccdigital.org/events/protests-danville-virginia/

https://www.thejc.com/life/lawyer-who-helped-a-loving-couple-nn57y8ct

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article120224913.html

https://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/philip_hirschkop_peta_social_justice

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/21/the-shadow-of-an-assassinated-american-nazi-commander-hangs-over-charlottesville/

Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

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In 1976, the recently paroled assassin went back to prison after being arrested in Charlottesville. He was acquitted on the charge of being naked in a stranger's living room, but he'd violated his parole. He's tried to stay out of the spotlight ever since. Decades later, his son wrote that he was a changed man. His comments after the 2017 Unite the Right rally say otherwise.

Sources:

Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/21/the-shadow-of-an-assassinated-american-nazi-commander-hangs-over-charlottesville/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1996/12/15/the-accounting/22c75ac3-d752-4339-bccb-dcce7e3a999f/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1997/07/18/man-found-guilty-in-15-year-old-murder/95c86fe6-2f03-4043-a7f3-5d49c89c2b13/

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In the third episode of the story of George Lincoln Rockwell's assassin, Rockwell finally dies and his assassin goes on trial.

Sources:

Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/25/shocking-neo-nazis-fly-swastika-salute-at-shopping-center-where-leader-was-killed/

https://www.fcnp.com/2017/08/25/nazis-swoop-arlington-mark-50th-anniversary-rockwell-shooting/

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In the year leading up to George Lincoln Rockwell's assassination, he was trying to take the American Nazi Party in a new direction. Not everyone within the party was on board with the changes.

Sources:

Schmaltz, William H. (2000). Hate: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Washington, D.C.: Brassey's

Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

Griffin, R. S. (2001). The Fame of a Dead Man’s Deeds. 1st Books Library.

https://time.com/5096937/martin-luther-king-jr-picture-chicago/ 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323670005_An_order_of_crime_the_criminal_law_of_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia_NDH_1941-1945 

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Sometimes when a weird little guy gets shot, the guy who killed him is just a weirder little guy.

Sources:

Schmaltz, William H. (2000). Hate: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Washington, D.C.: Brassey's

Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press

Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press.

Lee, Martin A. (1997). The Beast Reawakens. Boston: Little, Brown and Company.

Rosenthal, A. M.; Gelb, Arthur (1967). One More Victim: The Life and Death of an American-Jewish Nazi. New York: New American Library

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The American Freedom Party and the American Fart party have a couple things in common - the acronym, for one thing. They've also both filed paperwork with the federal election commission claiming to be a national political party. One is a silly little joke about farts, the other is a group of white nationalists who don't know how to do paperwork.

Sources:

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/american-freedom-party/

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/identity-evropaamerican-identity-movement/

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/kyle-bristow/ 

https://idavox.com/index.php/2015/10/15/national-youth-front-forced-to-change-name-angelo-john-gage-is-out-as-chairman-the-new-guy-is-an-ex-con-with-a-hell-of-a-story/

https://www.lansingcitypulse.com/stories/white-nationalists-seeking-to-rent-msu-facilities,1820 

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/03/01/richard-spencer-alt-right-lawyer-kyle-bristow/376172002/

https://sunlight161.noblogs.org/nicholas-jonathan-gregory-north-carolina-neo-nazi-podcaster-behind-night-nation-review-night-nation-ick/ 

https://www.antihate.ca/neo_nazi_hate_group_distribute_flyers_outside_canadian_university

https://globalextremism.org/post/white-supremacist-diagolon-movement-now-calling-for-deportation-of-all-indians/

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/airman-white-supremacist-group-discharge/

https://accollective.noblogs.org/post/2023/01/30/gordon-kahl/

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/forrest-gump-fake-presidential-candidates-days-numbered/story

https://azmirror.com/briefs/nbc-reported-about-neo-nazis-at-cpac-at-least-two-of-them-are-from-arizona/ 

https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00917005/

https://www.tn.gov/revenue/news/2022/5/12/polk-county-resident-pleads-guilty-to-theft-and-tax-evasion.html

https://www.newsweek.com/university-tennessee-protest-white-nationalist-rick-tyler-1437527

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/robert-whitaker-mantra-fame-announced-afp-vice-presidential-candidate/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-american-freedom-party-emails_n_5702b470e4b0a06d580659c7

https://www.thedailybeast.com/unite-the-right-2-speaker-is-disbarred-ex-lawyer-accused-of-stealing-from-clients/

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In 2017, Judd Blevins marched in Charlottesville with men chanting 'you will not replace us.' In 2024, voters in Enid, Oklahoma replaced him - a recall election removed him from office as a city commissioner. During his short time in office, members of the American Freedom Party rallied to support him.

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After the 2012 election, the American Third Position Party rebranded. Not because their candidate lost, they expected that. But probably because their candidate didn't know what the party's name meant.

Sources:

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/federalelections2012.pdf

https://politicalresearch.org/2016/12/19/what-third-position

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/neofascism-european-style/

https://www.alternet.org/2008/07/surviving_a_weekend_with_americas_premiere_pro-white_activist_group#

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/2016/10/18/former-mpd-chief-drue-lackey-dead-90/92349168/

Winkler, Martin M. Arminius the Liberator: Myth and Ideology. Oxford University Press, 2016. 

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In 2012, a newly formed white nationalist political party tried to get their candidate on the ballot. The American Third Position Party wanted Americans to vote for Merlin Miller, but how did the party end up picking him?

Sources:

https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/federalelections2012.pdf#page=11

https://irehr.org/2018/06/14/what-is-the-american-freedom-party/

https://www.ocregister.com/2009/09/04/two-time-felon-runs-pro-white-political-group/

https://rosecityantifa.org/articles/meet-the-oregon-chapter-of-the-american-freedom-party-part-one/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/will-la-elect-a-ron-paul_b_104053

https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2013/08/two-american-freedom-party-leaders-speak-out-about-their-party/

https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1964-68v19/d284

https://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/wars-conflicts-and-operations/middle-east/six-day-war-liberty.html

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After Devon Arthurs murdered his roommates, he claimed he'd only done it to prevent the loss of innocent lives. The man he said was planning a terrorist attack was arrested with a car full of guns, but not charged with any of the things Arthurs claimed their nazi terror cell had been working on.

Sources:

https://www.propublica.org/article/an-atomwaffen-member-sketched-a-map-to-take-the-neo-nazis-down-what-path-officials-took-is-a-mystery

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/three-murder-suspects-linked-to-atomwaffen-where-their-cases-stand/

https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/crime/article156282099.html

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nicholas-giampa-neo-nazi-teenager-murder-girlfriends-parents-virginia_n_5a4d0797e4b0b0e5a7aa4780

https://www.middlebury.edu/institute/academics/centers-initiatives/ctec/ctec-publications/dangerous-organizations-and-bad-actors-4

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/documenting-hate-new-american-nazis/transcript/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjEBXDfuBDE&ab_channel=COURTTV

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In 2017, police investigating a double homicide found more than just bodies in a Tampa condo. The founder of a neonazi group was making bombs in the garage.

Sources:

https://ctc.westpoint.edu/the-threat-is-the-network-the-multi-node-structure-of-neo-fascist-accelerationism/

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/visions-chaos-weighing-violent-legacy-iron-march/

https://ironmarch.noblogs.org/post/2019/11/15/meet-lauren-paul-mit-alumni-and-neo-nazi-atomwaffen-division-propagandist/

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2016/police-release-video-of-suspect-in-hate-poster-distribution/

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2019/12/19/transnational-white-terror-exposing-atomwaffen-and-the-iron-march-networks/

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/all-american-nazis-628023/

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In 2017, a man showed up at the emergency room and confessed that he'd accidentally poisoned himself with homemade ricin. He was federally charged with possessing a biological agent, but his case was dismissed on almost unbelievable technicality. But he's not the only man who thinks he can create the perfect weapon from nothing but a handful of beans.

Sources:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional/ajc-watchdog-north-man-arrested-for-ricin-radicalized-online/wdxws9G7zMmaUDmm22njYK/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/the-perfect-poison-ricin-used-in-3-recent-cases/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17023504/united-states-v-jordan/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6378803/united-states-v-siers-hill/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6293428/united-states-v-gibbs/

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https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=6020875&page=1

https://slate.com/technology/2012/01/white-powder-hoaxes-a-trend-in-fake-terrorism.html

https://www.justice.gov/archive/tax/usaopress/2002/txdv02091.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-49434687

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/22/woman-poison-plot-mother-breaking-bad-court

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/breaking-bad-inspired-georgetown-student-charged-ricin

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-34288380

USAMRIID’s MEDICAL MANAGEMENT OF BIOLOGICAL CASUALTIES HANDBOOK, Ninth Edition
https://usamriid.health.mil/assets/docs/training/USAMRIIDs_Blue_Book_9th_edition_PDF_format.pdf

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In 2016, Nicholas Young became the first American police officer to be arrested and charged with a federal terrorism offense. At trial, jurors were shown mountains of evidence about his collection of nazi memorabilia. But what does that have to do with the gift cards he texted to an FBI informant he thought was a member of ISIS?

Sources:

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4559133/united-states-v-young

Helen Taylor (2019): Domestic terrorism and hate crimes: legal definitions and media framing of mass shootings in the United States, Journal of Policing, Intelligence and Counter Terrorism
https://www.academia.edu/81063064/Domestic_terrorism_and_hate_crimes_legal_definitions_and_media_framing_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

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