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| AI & IP Panel Discussion: A Global Perspective Part IV | 27 Sep 2026 | 00:56:57 | |
Show notes: 0:00 Inha Cha’s comments on the takeaway she hopes listeners have to the panel discussion 0:30 introduction by Stephanie Drawdy 2:10 introduction by Haneen Alkenany 2:42 introduction by Inha Cha 3:30 introduction by Patrick McGranaghan 4:30 HA–research with visual artists on use of AI in light of creative cognition theories on divergent thinking and convergent thinking 8:00 IC–research around selective choices of AI use in the workplace in light of questions around agency and identity 10:00 HA–mixed opinions by creatives on AI use 10:35 IC’s co-authored article entitled “The Values of Value in AI Adoption: Rethinking Efficiency in UX Designers' Workplaces” – workers as artisans seeking greater agency per Economist Joan M Greenbaum (1979. In the name of efficiency: Management theory and shopfloor practice in data processing work. Temple University) 13:50 HA–AI use as part of the creative process based on artists’ personal choices of when and how to use AI 15:10 PM–paradox created by AI: need to understand AI outputs to actively avoid AI patterns and to avoid having their works seen as less valuable if suspected to be generated by AI 18:15 PM-ChatGPT's use of Studio Ghibli 19:10 Emily Gould–increase in value of human-created work 19:50 use of GI indicator model to mark / certify human-authored work 20:30 PM–Christopher Nolan’s choice not to use AI in upcoming film, The Odyssey 22:00 HA–decision when to use AI depends on the context 23:00 IC–design life cycle for introduction of AI features and value of AI for users 26:00 HA–creators’ use of AI as a controlled collaborator but not decision-maker 27:00 Gould–view of AI as just another tool 27:50 HA–democratization through AI 28:50 IC-AI-generated actor as an ex. to question who is benefiting from AI democratization and the need for balance 31:15 IC–her article’s use in AI training based on platform's general consent language – ex. of how ‘consent’ is being stretched without creators having a voice in how their content is used 34:10 PM–public outrage response to use of creators’ work without consent, e.g., IG’s withdrawal of terms and conditions that allowed use of anyone’s photos after Twitter backlash erupted to those terms and conditions 36:20 EG–Adobe’s use of data without consent 37:35 PM–violations by platforms like IG and Adobe 38:35 EG’s question to HA about creatives’ view of their work used in training data 41:25 PM–UK collective management organisation Design and Artists Copyright Society (DACS)’s efforts to ensure dark patterns not used 42:45 HA–exaggerated fear of AI in her perspective 43:40 PM and HA on AI stages like the ideation cycle versus the story/experience and artist's intent behind their work 46:15 PM–posthumous rights in light of AI, e.g., Osamu Tezuka x AI Project 49:00 PM–AI-generated work based on Ansel Adams’ work without permission of AA Foundation 50:00 EG and PM-distinction between posthumous creation without AI versus with AI 53:00 IC–closing comments 53:30 HA–closing comments on creators’ thoughtful use of AI and HA’s personal use of AI 55:10 PM-closing thoughts Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| ikonoTV Founder Elizabeth Markevitch on the Slow Art Movement, Democratizing Art & Her View of Justice | 30 Aug 2026 | 00:59:22 | |
Show Notes: 1:40 Markevitch’s background as an Impressionist and Modernist expert 3:30 democratization of art like the music industry 4:30 accessibility of art and how art makes us feel 5:20 unfairness of the art industry’s elitist approach 8:00 Emily Gould-inquiry on how to bring more people into the art world 10:00 art world representative’s narrow perspective on criteria to be an artist 12:45 Markevitch’s creative prompts on YouTube and Instagram 14:00 Markevitch’s perspective on AI and art 17:25 Picasso’s mantra that “bad artists copy” and “good artists steal” and his style appropriation from African art 19:05 Astrologist Neil deGrasse Tyson’s perspective on art and AI 21:45 ikonoTV and its purpose to share a feeling 23:00 the Slow Art Movement 28:25 Gould’s inquiry about the experience of art online versus with community 29:00 Philosopher Walter Benjamin’s 1935 essay, “The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction” 30:00 feedback about ikono.tv that includes giving individuals courage to go to museums 34:15 placing art in hospitals 37:55 launch of ikono’s meditation app: slow, feel the calm 38:55 ikono.tv’s “projects we love” page, including an art survey app to develop your “emotional garden” about an event, Sentiko.app 50:00 future of ikonoTV to include all films that feature art 51:45 legacy that Markevitch hopes to be making with her work: to bring art to the people 52:30 Markevitch’s view on the power of art: “Art is what makes us human.” 53:30 Markevitch’s inspiration 54:00 how Markevitch defines justice Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Dr. Caterina Moruzzi on the Philosophy of Human Creativity and AI: Authenticity, Accountability and What the Material Aspects of Creativity Mean | 26 Jul 2026 | 01:28:03 | |
Show notes: 1:30 results of the “Authenticity Unmasked” exhibition, part of the CREATEC project sponsored by UK’s BRAID (Bridging Responsible AI Divides) and UK Research and Innovation Programme 9:20 “Embracing the Complexities of Authenticity” project Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Hon. Simon Frankel & Prof. Stephen Urice on the 6th Edition of LEVA: Law, Ethics, and the Visual Arts | 28 Jun 2026 | 00:53:27 | |
Please visit LEVA, 6th Edition's site to learn more. Show Notes: 0:00 Prof. Stephen Urice describes Law, Ethics, and the Visual Arts 1:30 Urice's background 3:25 Hon. Simon Frankel's background 6:00 SU: evolution of Law, Ethics, and the Visual Arts (LEVA) 9:00 SF: changes in LEVA, 6th Ed. 11:40 SF: 6th Ed.’s accessibility and increased framing 12:25 SU: 6th Ed.’s shift in perspective to a more centrist presentation 14:00 SF: 6th Ed.’s usefulness for a broad audience 15:20 SU: examples of stories in 6th Ed, e.g., Naruto v. Slater, (9th Cir. 2018) 16:00 SU: Brancusi v. US, 54 Treas. Dec. 428 (U.S. Customs Court 1928) 17:25 SF: variety of materials in LEVA, e.g., articles, statutes, transcripts, novels 18:20 SF: Examples of cases about the authenticity of works and the disconnect between legal judgments and art world valuations: Greenberg Gallery v. Bauman, 817 F. Supp. 167 (D.D.C. 1993), aff’d without opinion, 36 F.3d 127 (D.C. Cir. 1994) (Calder sculpture held to be authentic by the trial judge versus expert Klaus Perls’ rejection of the work) 20:30 SF: Herstand & Co. v. Gallery Gertrude Stein Inc., 211 A.D.2d 77 (N.Y. App. Div. 1995) (remand on authenticity of Balthus drawing despite Balthus' repudiation of the work) 22:40 SU: colorful settings and range of legal issues arising in art-related cases 24:45 ethical issues arising in art-related disputes, e.g., restitution claims 26:35 SF: Museum Studies Scholar Marie Malaro, the law makes us only bearable, not honorable. 27:00 Holocaust Expropriated Art Recovery Act of 2016; HEAR Act of 2025 31:50 LEVA website and its future resources 34:10 SU: AI-generated discussions about issues in LEVA, 6th Ed. 36:00 SU: 6th Ed. updates 37:05 SF: generative AI issues in pending suits 40:00 LEVA, 7th Ed. 41:30 Feedback from readers of 6th Ed. 42:15 Tax issues covered in 6th Ed. 45:50 SF: definition of justice 47:50 SU: ethical concerns in defining justice to aim for honor 50:00 SF: mark he hopes to be making 50:55 SU: mark he hopes to be making with LEVA Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Art Lawyer Patrick McGranaghan on AI, Copyright and the Collision of Culture and Infrastructure | 14 Jun 2026 | 01:01:15 | |
Show Notes: 1:35 Patrick McGranaghan’s background 2:45 McGranaghan’s work with Pierre Valentin 3:05 focus on collision of culture and infrastructure 4:45 “evidential fog” around AI in the arts 6:00 abstract nature of these AI issues 7:00 his writing on these issues to navigate these issues 8:30 EU’s AI framework “recognizes the structural nature of the problem” – can’t be minor updates to old copyright debates, “AI creates problems of scale, opacity and jurisdictional arbitrage that traditional legal categories do not solve very elegantly.” 10:00 incentive for jurisdiction shopping 11:40 Getty v. Stability AI in the UK 14:05 EU AI Act’s extraterritorial obligations 15:00 EU AI Act, Article 53: general purpose models brought into EU must comply with EU copyright law, including opt out reservations; and detailed summary of training data 17:55 UK’s approach is more exposed to loopholes 19:25 opt in versus opt out systems 21:35 Kadrey v. Meta 22:55 the burden placed on creators by the opt out system 25:45 sporadic licensing deals and unclear remuneration standard 27:30 interoperability 28:40 impact of robots.txt 31:15 Alan Robertshaw re: impact of AI on the practice of law 34:50 AI defamation cases 36:20 McGranaghan - need for lawyers regardless of AI 37:25 Robertshaw - legal professions’ varied approaches to AI 38:55 AI and astronomy 40:30 moral conflict with not compensating artists 43:00 justices/injustices related to AI 46:45 market harm created by AI 49:25 definition of justice 53:05 protections that artists can use, e.g., robots.txt, metadata, units based protection, Glaze and Nightshade 58:00 mark Patrick hopes to make around AI and art
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Artists' Rights at Risk: From State Sovereign Immunity to Generative AI | 25 May 2026 | 00:49:37 | |
Cover photo of Rick Allen - copyright Cindy Burnham, Lucky Shot Productions 0:00 Nautilus Productions' Co-Founder Rick Allen gives the history of Allen v. McCrory - suit against NC over Allen's footage of the Queen Anne's Revenge Shipwreck 2:00 NC’s technical arguments against Allen’s claims 2:55 court's use of pendant jurisdiction to wipe out 5 years of Allen’s case 3:45 petition for rehearing en banc denied 6:45 states’ use of sovereign immunity against creators 8:50 Jeff Sedlik’s suit over use of his photo of Miles Davis as a tattoo 9:30 Michael J. Bynum’s suit over Texas A&M University’s unauthorized use of Bynum’s 12th Man book (complaint here; dismissal of copyright infringement claims against A&M employee discussed here) 11:00 Allen’s recommendations to artists to protect their work online 13:35 Emily Gould’s discussion of LAION case 17:00 Bartz v. Anthropic - 23 June 2025 Order on Fair Use in N.D. Cal. 19:50 Allen on opt out policy 20:20 Visual Artists Copyright Reform Act (VACRA) 21:00 Gould on survey by DACS (the Design and Artist’s Copyright Society) 23:00 response to UK government’s consultations 24:00 UK House of Lord’s hearings 24:30 Allen on artists not understanding impact of generative AI 26:00 Gould on UK judgment from trial in Getty v. Stability 28:50 Gould on judgment in GEMA v. Open AI 31:55 Lauren Stein on ChatGPT and law school's encouragement to use AI 33:00 Getty v. Stability in UK – Getty’s drop of direct infringement claim and appeal of ruling on secondary infringement claim 35:50 UK’s Section 9(3) - copyright protection for original work created by a machine 39:20 Stein on copyrightability and Japan’s approach to sufficient human authorship 41:40 Gould on Beijing Internet Court's judgment in Li v. Liu 42:05 Allen’s position on AI 44:00 Gould on authenticity and human contribution 47:35 Ed Newton-Rex Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Multidisciplinary Artist Zoë Buckman on Agency, Jewish Personhood & Multiple Truths | 03 May 2026 | 01:00:13 | |
Photo of Zoë Buckman by Abbey Drucker show notes: 1:10 background as a multi-media visual artist 7:00 Buckman’s dialogue with agency 9:25 her use of embroidery 10:40 filmmaking 11:00 Show Me Your Bruises, Then 14:25 exhibition at the Perez Museum 18:50 power of art 22:00 Artist Tracey Ehmann 23:45 exploration of personal issues in her work 26:15 her work on Jewish personhood 34:30 erasure and gaslighting of Jewish artists 37:00 show at Mindy Solomon Gallery 41:00 Jewish people’s complicated relationship with the home 42:45 her definition of justice / injustice 45:40 how her work addresses her view of justice / injustice 49:30 use of vintage textiles 51:45 coffee table book 52:45 2027 NY show 53:30 collaboration with Actress Cush Jumbo 54:50 the legacy Buckman hopes to make with her work 56:15 multiple truths she addresses in her work Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| TEDx Speaker Ronnie Stephens on His Legacy Journey as a Member of the Quapaw and Cherokee Tribes, the Impact of NAGPRA, How Best to Preserve and Celebrate Native American Culture & the Importance of Storytelling | 19 Apr 2026 | 01:04:06 | |
To learn more, please visit Ronnie Stephens' site and view his TEDx Talk 1:50 background of Ronnie’s “legacy journey” as a member of the Quapaw and Cherokee Tribes 3:30 1897 allotment of 240 acres to Stephens' great-grandfather 4:30 Quapaw Tribe’s relocation from Arkansas to Oklahoma 6:30 McGirt v. Oklahoma, 140 S. Ct. 2452 (2020) 9:00 issues identified by Tribal Leaders 10:50 Dawes Commission and Burke Act 17:00 management of allotted land 19:25 Emily Gould – question about allotted land 24:45 Keeping Traditions Alive exhibition 26:20 Killers of the Flower Moon rewritten with input from Osage Nation 27:55 Echo film involved input from Choctaw Nation 30:00 Alan Robertshaw–Prey-film with Native American heroine 31:55 Dark Winds series 33:30 policy shifts needed 38:30 NAGPRA and its amendments 43:45 education needed for cultural sensitivity 46:00 BBC Documentary: Rich Hall’s Inventing the Indian 49:20 Lauren Gowler–question about historic US federal laws 55:00 definition of justice
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Aurelian Lawyers & Advisers' Director & Founder Alana Kushnir on Antisemitism in the Arts, Education on the Depth of Jewish Culture and History, and the Moral Component of Justice | 28 Mar 2026 | 00:53:32 | |
Photographer credit: Simon Strong Here is more information about Alana Kushnir and Aurelian Lawyers & Advisers. Show Notes: 1:45 update since Alana’s 2021 interview at Ep. 43 3:45 rebranding to Aurelian Lawyers & Advisers 5:00 LinkedIn posts by Alana and Guest Work Agency 8:00 antisemitism in the arts 13:00 resignation from Australian Centre for Contemporary Art’s Board 13:35 Australian news article led to her public cancellation 15:55 Serpentine Gallery's removal of her after 5 years as the lead on its research programme, The Legal Lab 20:00 steps forward to address hypocrisy in the arts sector 20:55 service on Jewish Museum of Australia’s board 21:40 her curation of Chutzpah: Spirit. Recollection. Self. 23:20 Georgian Artist Nina Sanadze's “Call to Peace” Series 27:40 Sanadze’s use of flowers from Bondi Massacre in future sculpture 30:30 Israeli-German Artist Elinor Sahm’s "Ha'layla" 31:30 Simm’s family archive used to show a Jerusalemite-Sepheradic “Hafla” (traditional celebration and gathering) 33:35 Alana's aim to bring back the depth of Jewish culture and history 37:25 Alana’s dream project to highlight the Jewish community's contribution to Australia's culture, especially Jewish women 39:30 education to bring together Jewish and non-Jewish communities 42:50 current relevance of the Holocaust 45:00 Jewish community from former USSR at the Bondi massacre 46:50 moral courage as a form of justice 48:00 legacy to create culture not fear, to emphasize integrity and loyalty 49:15 her work with Arts Patron and Hospitality Icon Rinaldo Di Stasio 50:05 Di Stasio’s commission of Artist Sean Gladwell for a moving image work in flagship restaurant, Di Stasio Città Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Iranian-Italian Actor Isabella Nefar on Resilience, Censorship and the Power of Storytelling | 22 Feb 2026 | 00:31:53 | |
Show notes: 1:30 background 3:30 My English Persian Kitchen 5:15 Sheherazade, narrator of One Thousand and One Nights 5:45 My English Persian Kitchen author Atoosa Sepehr’s efforts to address misconceptions about Iranians 9:45 choice of roles that challenge the stereotype about Iranians 10:10 Apple TV series Tehran 12:00 defenders of human rights 14:25 response to Iran’s formal and psychological censorship of creative community 16:45 Artist Soheila Sokhanvari 18:30 Women Life Freedom movement 21:00 global response to human rights’ violations in Iran 23:00 the meaning of justice in terms of accountability 24:20 future projects 27:25 legacy / mark of her work 28:55 creative process and connection with other creatives Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Multidisciplinary Artist Bayeté Ross Smith on Art, Technology and Restorative Justice | 01 Feb 2026 | 01:00:50 | |
multidisciplinary artist/visual journalist/filmmaker/education worker Bayeté Ross Smith Show Notes: 2:00 Bayeté Ross Smith’s background, work and collaboration 7:00 relevance of colonialism in transnational issues 9:50 collective brain trust/collective culture 14:30 employing technology with storytelling 20:30 creatives’ protection of their metadata 24:40 “art” and “data” as information 27:50 “human authorship” and copyright 34:25 bias proliferation with AI 39:40 power of art and media to raise awareness 44:50 “restorative justice” to mitigate and deter harm so individuals can flourish 54:00 current and future projects, including Got the Power Boomboxes: Sugar Cane and Cotton, Hip Hop 50 Boombox, video game project and collaboration with legal community Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Steven Gambardella on Stoicism: Its Benefits and Paradoxes | 18 Jan 2026 | 01:03:41 | |
Please visit Steven Gambardella's site here to learn more. Show Notes: 1:15 background in the arts 4:00 Dutch philosopher Spinoza’s parallels with Hellenistic philosophies 5:20 Gambardella’s Become As You Are 9:00 individual agency and collective action 11:00 crisis of agency 11:20 emergence of stoicism 14:00 four-fold root of virtue 20:10 four facets of autonomy, perspective, objectivity and control and their relation to the four virtues of wisdom, moderation, justice and courage/fearlessness 21:25 Steven's blog 21:45 Stoic view of justice relates to ignorance 26:00 moralism 27:00 Seneca, tutor and advisor to Roman emperor Nero 32:00 applying ancient Stoic ideas in current day 35:35 Stoicism and Philosophy Reading Group 38:30 summary of Stoicism: Virtue is the only good; and you have full control over the domain of your soul/your “inner citadel” 40:20 Stoicism at a crossroads 43:45 his hope to contribute to a revolution of the soul that encourages a view of the world that is more holistic and spiritual 45:40 Question from Susanne van der Meer about the paradox in Stoicism about the responsibility of agency versus a Stoic view of incarceration 55:00 Stoic view of fear and desire 1:00:00 Comments from Emily Gould Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Italian IP, New Tech and Art Law Lawyer Massimo Sterpi on Issues Raised by Generative AI and the Future of Agentic AI | 04 Jan 2026 | 00:55:27 | |
Massimo Sterpi photo by Eolo Perfido Show Notes: 1:30 Sterpi’s work with emerging tech 2:30 shift in use of emerging tech/arts issues 3:55 Brazilian artist Eduardo Kac's transgenic work 4:30 blockchain / NFT as a testing area 5:10 generative AI and copyright 6:20 copyrighted works as training data 12:25 11 Nov 2025 judgment by Munich Regional Court in GEMA v. OpenAI (Case No. 42 O 14139/24) 14:20 fair use in the US 17:05 copyright of outputs 23:55 "A Single Piece of American Cheese" 26:00 Gema decision’s impact on OpenAI’s business model 29:00 UK decision in Getty v. Stability AI 32:30 harmonisation 34:20 collective licensing as a solution for AI training 36:20 view of justice/injustice with emerging tech in the arts 38:40 cultural impact of emerging tech 42:00 Christie’s auction of "Portrait of Edmond de Belamy" 43:40 2024 Venice Biennale - The Conference on Art and AI’s “The Neo-Synthetic: A Dialogue on Art, A.I., and Emergent Aesthetics” 44:30 expanding area regarding the roles involved in outputs 46:40 authenticity becoming enigmatic 47:00 attempts to create digital scarcity 47:55 different standards of creativity 48:30 neighboring rights for AI 50:00 Italy’s protection of “simple photographs” versus “photographic works” 50:40 UK’s Section 9(3) copyright of outputs fictionally attributed to human involved 52:40 Agentic AI Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Artist Marina Heintze on Art, Activism and the Holocaust | 21 Dec 2025 | 00:53:15 | |
Link here to learn more about Marina Heintze. Show Notes: 1:00 Heintze’s background in the arts 2:30 sculptures of Heintze's father 3:30 Heintze’s use of materials 5:30 current events addressed in Heintze’s work 6:20 Politics series – gerrymandering 7:25 Bullet proof vests – assassinations and deviseness 7:45 Holocaust addressed in her work like “Gentian Violet Violence” 8:30 "Yitler” and “Dog Whistle” pieces 9:50 Heintze’s family research that led her to work with bone planters 11:20 archival research used in her work 13:35 "The eyes are the windows to the neshama/soul" 15:20 Lure series regarding nefarious organizations 19:50 how/whether her works address justice/injustice 21:50 work related to B2 bombers 22:50 Tunnel Talk / Vision series 27:25 feedback on Tunnel Talk / Vision series 31:40 Banksy image removed from Royal Courts of Justice 34:15 Holocaust denial and free speech 36:40 Alan Robertshaw – importance of work on the Holocaust 38:45 David Irving v Penguin Books and Deborah Lipstadt – 1996 UK Judgment 42:20 facts of genocide/terrorist acts 48:10 camouflage IP 50:30 design of Arab nation flags Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| AI & IP Panel Discussion: A Global Perspective Part III | 07 Dec 2025 | 00:59:43 | |
Photographer credit for Anja Neubauer: self-portrait created with an AI tool. Show Notes: 2:30 Prof. Tim McFarlin’s focus on copyright and authorship 3:30 Dr. Caterina Moruzzi’s philosophical/design perspective / focus on authenticity 5:00 Dr. Anja Neubauer's focus on global AI/copyright framework 5:50 Artist Lisa Lebofsky’s perspective on AI as a nomadic painter 8:45 “Authenticity Unmasked”–looking at the artistic process not the product 9:55 “Authenticity Unmasked” insight-centrality of human perspective 12:00 Neubauer–redefinition of terms like originality in light of emerging tech 13:30 Getty v. Stability finding outputs are not copies so not infringements 14:55 McFarland–genAI’s scale and redefining understanding of terms 17:05 US state and federal laws 19:00 need for unified global protection 19:50 Alan Robershaw – UK Getty decision’s technical focus on the process 21:40 Defining originality 22:10 Getty opinion at 601 v. AI models are memorizing/making copies 24:00 Robertshaw - one step away from judicial definition of consciousness 24:40 McFarlin – scale is the concern 25:35 Lebofsky – how prior claims of infringement fit into AI/appropriation of artists’ works 26:20 McFarlin – ‘substantially similar’ takings are prima facie infringement subject to fair use defense 27:10 consideration of outputs flooding the market harm 29:25 Lebofsky – use of AI through tools like AI Charm Lab app 31:00 Lebofsky’s view of threats to her style and her language 32:45 human requirement for ‘authorship’ and consumer trends 35:55 Moruzzi – human effort to value the process 37:15 Process visible in generative AI circa 2015 v. current genAI’s less visibility and thus less authenticity 38:30 Anthroprocentric – human need for authorship 40:20 Robershaw - Monkey-selfie case; animal versus machine personhood 43:15 McFarlin – Arkansas statute on AI 44:40 Gould – UK Section 9(3) - limited copyright for output in person who organized the output 45:00 Neubauer – issue of term “equipment” for tools 46:50 Gould – current copyright legislation is not fit for purpose 48:35 Distinction between camera use and AI model training 49:05 Copyright Criminals documentary regarding music sampling 50:00 Sampling case involving Kraftwerk 51:35 Moruzzi – response to consultations 53:00 McFarlin – extent of law v. parallel tracks to copyright or other alternatives to preserve and protect human creativity 54:00 Stefania Salles Bruins–solutions outside the law 54:40 Copyright not fit for purpose 55:20 Neubauer - Shift in definition of artwork 55:45 Lebofsky – how to establish boundaries 57:25 Lebofsky’s work Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| "Through Their Eyes" Exhibition - The Story of Kfar Azza Before, During and After 7 October 2023 | 23 Nov 2025 | 00:19:52 | |
Show Notes: 1:45 Lawrence Badzin - introduction of The Surviving Project 5:45 three parts of Through Their Eyes Exhibition 7:00 Wings of Hope messages 9:00 stories from the delegation 10:15 exhibition mission 11:30 future cities for the exhibition: Chicago, Atlanta, LA, NYC, Toronto 12:40 how the exhibition addresses theme of drawing strength from what’s lost 15:00 defining justice – the way of getting back is continuing on 16:30 legacy of the exhibition 18:00 Through Their Eyes Exhibition Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| AI & IP Panel Discussion: A Global Perspective Part II | 02 Nov 2025 | 01:14:17 | |
Oluwatobi Aluko photo by Praise Samuel Show Notes: 2:50 Tobi Aluko–Nigerian copyright 5:30 Nigeria’s national AI strategy and creative sector 7:25 Emily Gould – query on tech sector’s strength in Nigeria 9:40 debate over UK’s copyright provision for machine-generated work 11:40 Johan Brandstedt - Sweden’s approach to copyright 13:40 Czech Republic case on AI and copyrightability 16:40 Aluko – prompting versus creating art that involves effort/process 19:00 US copyright for A Single Piece of American Cheese 20:30 Prof. Ahmed Elgammal - background of AI use in the arts 23:45 19th C. French case on copyright of photographs that show originality 24:45 US refusal to copyright AI outputs 26:35 Bartz v. Anthropic and Kadrey v. Meta 30:45 AICAN project 32:55 GAN-based art movement celebrated prior to prompting 34:25 artists survey on value from AI 37:15 backlash of Christies’ auction of Generative AI works 41:50 Elgammal – effort versus intentionality e.g., DuChamp/ready-made art 42:30 intentionality and agency missing with prompting and random output 51:40 AI's cultural impact 1:04:30 Beethoven X project Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Israeli Artist Ronit Levin Delgado on Activist Art after 7 October and Art's Power to Heal & Bring Cultural Repair | 19 Oct 2025 | 00:40:45 | |
Show Notes: 15:45 Joan Roth Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Artist & Attorney Stefania Salles Bruins on "How to Work Your Lawyer-Trained Brain to Strengthen Your Cranial Nerve 2" Part II - A 2ND Saturday Conversation | 04 Oct 2025 | 01:05:44 | |
Cover photograph credit: Jessica Minor Link to PowerPoint presentation referenced in episode is available here. Show Notes: 1:20 intro and background 2:40 Slide 4 - Overview of Part I: 6 & ½ tips & tricks: 1 – perspective & point of view; 2 – Light; 2-1/2 – shadow; 3 – value / contrast; 4 – temperature; 5 – depth and illusion of 3-D; 6 – line 5:00 Slide 5: Point 7 - Brushstrokes 6:35 thickness of paint 7:00 blending with dry brush 8:00 Slide 6: Point 8 - Layering 9:40 ‘fat over lean’ rule 11:15 scumble – layer of opaque white 11:30 glaze – transparent layer over an underpainting 12:40 Slide 7: Point 9 - Paint as a Language 15:50 Slide 8: Point 10 - The Figure 19:45 Slide 9: Point 11 – The Palette 32:40 glazing 33:50 Slide 10: Point 12 – Studio Practice 42:50 figurative group show with artist from Hip Bone Art Studio 43:45 process of applying to shows 45:00 narrative/figurative and surrealist approach to still life work 46:05 artist statements 48:45 sharing WIP and final works 51:20 connection to the cranial optic nerve – thinking with our eyes when painting 1:00:00 painting from imagination with focus on ‘technique in service of art’ 1:02:10 how to deal with writers’ block and painters’ block Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Curator Michael Jacobs on the Museum of the Southern Jewish Experience | 07 Sep 2025 | 00:59:58 | |
Cover photo by Rhonda Dumas, Pieface Photography Show notes: 2:00 Museum of Southern Jewish Experience beginning 2012 MSJE moved to Jackson MS and became part of Institute of Southern Jewish Life 3:30 4th year in New Orleans 4:50 MSJE’s mission 5:45 Chapman Family Research Center 6:00 archival vault – over 375 collections and over 4,000 artifacts 7:20 genealogy workshops 10:00 artifacts from southern Jewish general stores, e.g., 1890s saloon’s whiskey jug 12:30 collection digitization 13:35 Jewish orphans’ home exhibition 14:30 MSJE’s film 15:20 A Better Life for Their Children exhibition 18:00 Greetings From Main Street exhibition 22:00 French Jews from Alsace-Lorraine 23:00 Central European Jews 23:55 Galveston Plan – Rabbi Henry Cohen 26:00 New Americans exhibition at St. Charles Parish Library 26:30 love story of Joseph Sperling and Anni Frind 36:00 New American Clubs 38:00 relevance of Holocaust survivors’ stories 39:45 rapid response collecting 41:00 view of justice 42:00 lynching of Leo Frank and southern Jewish mayors 44:00 social justice 44:50 Howard Turner – rapid response collecting 45:00 Emily Gould – slave trader memorials, e.g., Colston Statue in Bristol 48:00 Confederate statues built often by the Daughters of the Confederacy 50:45 future exhibition by MSJE on current war 52:00 Turner: school visits at MSJE 53:45 MSJE hours 54:35 Shalom Y’all video, etc. on MSJE site 56:00 visit to MSJE 56:55 interactive map on St. Charles streetcar line 57:30 New Americans - upcoming MSJE exhibition Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Dr. Hannes Hartung on Germany's Nazi-Looted Art Claims Reform, Bavaria's Nazi-Looted Art Scandal, Restitution and Remembrance | 03 Aug 2025 | 01:09:18 | |
To learn more, please visit Dr. Hartung's site. Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Art Historian Silvia Wistuba on the ‘Malweiber’ - Female Artists of German Modernism | 20 Jul 2025 | 01:04:42 | |
To learn more about Silvia Wistuba and her work, please visit here and here. Cover Image: Wistuba's adaptation of work by artist Julie Wolfthorn for the cover of Jugend magazine (1898). Show Notes 0:00 Silvia Wistuba on equality of artists 1:15 Wistuba’s background 2:30 Gabriele Münter 4:30 ‘Malweiber’ meaning 6:00 timeframe of ‘Malweiber’ labeling – 1871-1918 8:30 research process 12:00 regional approach to research 15:00 twelve female artists focused on in research 16:30 finding that art is not gendered 18:15 Charlotte Corinth 21:30 Dora Hitz 22:40 Maria Slavona 24:25 Augusta von Zitzewitz 25:20 Erma Bossi 26:25 Elisabeth Epstein 27:23 Maria Franck-Marc 30:30 Gabriele Münter 32:25 Elisabeth Erdmann-Macke 34:25 Ida Gerhardi 36:30 Fifi Kreutzer 37:55 Olga Openheimer 40:30 range of resources 43:30 Blue Rider Group 45:30 Gabriele Münter’s donation to Lenbachhaus (Munich) 49:00 Museum Art of the Lost Generation 51:30 current relevance 53:30 need for discourse on art’s social context 55:08 social justice for artists of the past 55:20 defining justice as respect shown to all 56:25 feedback 58:10 challenging the sexist paradigm that art is gendered 59:40 plans to convert thesis into book 1:00:15 derogatory nature of term ‘Malweiber’ 1:01:45 cover image inspired by Julie Wolfthorn’s image
Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Dr. Michelle Fabiani & Dr. Fiona Greenland on CURIA Lab's Work to Measure the Impacts of Cultural Loss | 15 Jun 2025 | 01:12:54 | |
Show notes: 0:00 Dr. Fiona Greenland discussing collabarative work with Curia co-founder Dr. Michelle Fabiana 2:00 Dr. Michelle Fabiani's background 3:40 Dr. Greenland’s background 5:40 collaboration between Greenland and Fabiani 7:10 overview of Curia Lab 9:40 Informatics, the science of information 11:30 Syrian project - how robust and reliable data on scope of Syrian looting was with a review of remote sensing imagery 15:10 participants in Syrian project 17:20 Syrian project – evidence on whether there is a connection between Syrian civilian fatalities/casualties and cultural heritage looting 22:45 prelude hypothesis 27:50 war in Ukraine and its effects on Ukrainian culture 32:00 how the data is used to inform accountability 34:30 Greenland’s work with Conflict Observatory Ukraine 36:00 Ukrainians’ current restitution, reparations and accountability efforts 37:50 user guides for each area 42:30 Fabiani’s PhD project on Egyptian archeological looting 44:00 current project that builds on PhD project 46:00 impact of technology on their approach, including disinformation 50:00 complications created by AI, including generative AI 54:00 perspective of skepticism required 56:30 online risks and need for mitigation 58:15 how their work speaks to justice 58:30 Miranda Fricker’s book Epistemic Injustice: Power and the Ethics of Knowing 1:02:30 questions of justice for whom 1:05:30 Lauren Stein: question on the role of universities in Curia Lab 1:07:50 hope for their work to establish frameworks of cooperation and collaboration that cherish equal access to knowledge/information that would then lead to equal access to accountability 1:09:10 hope for their work to facilitate a shift to a multi-disciplinary approach Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| The Healing Power of Art - A Conversation with Artist/Retired Judge Jerry Alonzo & Artist/Attorney Gina McKlveen | 04 May 2025 | 00:54:28 | |
SHOW NOTES: 0:00 artist & attorney Gina McKlveen 1:05 artist & retired judge Jerry Alonzo - the impact of depression 3:00 documentary American Symphony 3:50 Suleika Jaouad - release she experienced by painting about cancer 6:00 Alonzo’s “Out of Balance” 6:40 “Civic Sacrement" 8:20 woodwork during Alonzo’s time as a judge 9:00 “The Jury Box” 10:45 “The Judgment” 11:45 “Justice is God’s Plumb Line” 12:30 Environmental works like “Monstronse” 13:15 “Justice?” 14:15 “Passage” 14:40 “Faltering” 16:00 “Arc” 16:25 asylum work inspired “Matthew 25” 20:30 importance of leaning into the pain 21:35 Emily Gould’s comments 23:30 American Symphony - leaning into anxiety through art 26:25 McKlveen’s response to Alonzo’s work 26:45 “Upturned House” by Phyllida Barlow 27:20 “Inflated Balloons” 27:50 Carnegie International 28:40 McKlveen’s work leaning into grief and loss 29:35 “Fisherman on the Roof” 37:45 “Mermaid Mama” 39:25 “Stay Wild” 40:15 “Heather’s Mama” 42:00 McKlveen’s grandparents 44:50 portraiture versus still life works 47:00 other artists who created still life paintings as portraits, e.g., Van Gogh 48:30 Alonzo’s response to McKlveen 49:05 Gould’s response to McKlveen 49:45 Oluwatobi Aluko’s response 51:00 McKlveen’s planned portrait of grandmother with post box like Mona Lisa Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Jesuit Priest & Artist Father Jonathan Harmon on Art as a 'Work of Service', Defining Sacred Art and Seeking Justice Through Art | 13 Apr 2025 | 00:57:29 | |
To learn more, please visit Father Harmon's site. Show notes: 1:15 Harmon’s background and work as priest since 2008 2:10 teaching fine arts and being a pastoral resource at Loyola University 3:00 his work in the arts 8:20 history of art in Jesuit community 12:00 Daniel Segers, Jesuit Priest and artist 12:30 Harmon’s process as a painter in light of being a ‘work of service’ 16:00 Harmon’s painting from pilgrimage through Spain 17:30 students’ responses 19:15 his attendance at New York Academy of Art 23:30 Jerry Alonzo: how to communicate through your art 26:45 Pope Benedict XVI’s Encyclical Letter Caritas in Veritate 28:20 definition of ‘sacred art’ 30:30 seeking social justice through art 32:00 his work in Brownsville, TX connected to his art 33:00 his series of Catholic objects 35:30 his balance of time 37:25 Alan Robertshaw’s comments about all art being sacred 42:10 Tolkien and Flannery O’Connor on religious imagination 44:00 incorporating Catholic objects into his work 46:50 Emily Gould - spiritual impact of artwork/architecture/nature 49:15 Jarnick Vitters - importance of the physical objects to Harmon’s faith 51:00 Alan Robertshaw - subjective importance of objects 53:30 Yelena Khajekian - art as a sacred endeavor 54:40 Nnebundo Obi - interest in hearing about priest’s pursuit of other vocations Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| AI & IP Panel Discussion: A Global Perspective Part I | 02 Mar 2025 | 01:30:23 | |
Show notes: 3:00 David Newhoff - question of authorship 7:15 Peter Wasilko 9:00 Andres Guadamuz - blog post on AI copyright authorship 10:30 China’s focus on “intellectual achievement” 12:20 Section 9(3) of its Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 13:00 Emily Gould - whether copyright is fit for purpose 13:30 UK joint evidence session on the future of AI and copyright law 17:15 Newhoff - use of an artist’s style 18:40 Wasilko - an artist’s training of a model with its own work 20:15 artist's post-stroke gen-AI recording from model training on his work 21:00 Salles Bruins' question on definition of intellect 25:40 - Ankit Sahni - China’s protection 28:30 Sahni - India’s position on creativity falls in the middle 29:00 Ankit Sahni - RAGHAV output “Suryast” 33:45 Sahni - protection of AI-assisted works by China’s courts 35:00 Wasilko - hypothetical-photo of sunsets on VR headsets 36:50 Sahni - USCO’s case by case basis 37:50 Newhoff - what is protectable against infringement 39:30 Sarony: looking at human choices used to create photos 41:00 Newhoff - ‘authorship by adoption’ is a “bridge too far” 42:15 Bruins - question about training in Wasilko’s hypothetical 43:10 Wasilko - “bridge too far”- license to “learn” from works 48:00 Stanford’s CodeX Group - talk on product JudgeAI 50:30 Andres - human creativity exists irrespective of copyright 52:00 Salles Bruins - copyright is a tool to enable artists to profit 53:30 Kritika Sahni - defining intellect dependent on AI context 54:50 Ankit Sahni - sui generis system of registration 58:45 Gould-a right like copyright for outputs "tough" to get right 1:02:00 Guadamuz - Ukraine’s sui generis right for AI works 1:03:45 Jason Jean - defining intellect 1:08:50 Newhoff - unconvinced that it’s a “sui generis question” 1:09:30 Wasilko - whether inputting human work makes model “assistive” 1:13:00 question of global copyright approach 1:17:15 what is the end game? Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| AI, Copyright and Justice - A Conversation with Copyright Lawyer Anja Neubauer | 02 Feb 2025 | 00:42:23 | |
To learn more, please visit Anja Neubauer's site. 1:30 background in the law and tech 4:45 overview of global framework “AI and Authorship Redefined: Towards a Global Copyright Framework for Commerce and Human Originality - Exploring Ownership, Infringement, Moral Rights, and Human Originality” 12:35 question of authorship 19:35 moral rights 26:30 viability of global copyright 28:20 issues of injustice raised by AI 34:30 German study about developers’ infringement 38:00 public’s choice to lock up data 39:00 The Congress Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Art/Cultural Heritage/IP Law Attorney & Musician Leila Amineddoleh - a 2ND Saturday Conversation | 05 Jan 2025 | 01:08:35 | |
To learn more, please visit Amineddoleh & Associates LLC and view Leila Amineddoleh performing Chopin Polonaise, Op. 26, No. 1 and Liszt Liebestraum No. 3. 1:00 Amineddoleh’s background and work in music and law 4:00 Patty Gerstenblith 7:00 building Amineddoleh & Assoc. 8:45 Amineddoleh's work with Greece 10:00 perspective as musician aids in work as attorney to other artists 11:00 Amineddoleh's experience with plagiarism 14:20 Amineddoleh’s practice 15:45 Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act 19:50 artists’ perspectives in hiring an attorney 22:50 Jerry Alonzo: what brings artists to seek out Amineddoleh 26:00 return of golden coffin of Nedjemankh 31:45 use of AI 36:30 AI-assisted Beatles song 37:45 analogy of photography to AI outputs 38:20 Japanese photographer Hiroshi Sugimoto 39:45 suit over copyright of monkey selfie 41:45 Thaler v. USCO 44:30 Rupali Gujral: negotiating on a client’s behalf 48:30 Stefania Salles Bruins: history of art collecting 52:30 Bruins: Amineddoleh's balancing of legal and musical practices 54:00 Amineddoleh’s perspective on sharing her music and performing 56:30 Liszt’s Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 played by Bugs Bunny 57:20 Amineddoleh’s performance of Chopin Polonaise, Op. 26, No. 1 and Liszt Liebestraum No. 3 59:00 under-appreciated composer Brahms 1:01:20 injustices in art law 1:04:30 Amineddoleh’s definition of justice - access 1:06:00 John Cage’s 4’33” Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Researcher, Writer & Advisor Frances Liddell on the Intersection of Emerging Tech, the Arts & Culture | 01 Dec 2024 | 00:53:45 | |
To learn more, please visit Frances Liddell's site. Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| IP and Tech Attorney Ankit Sahni on the RAGHAV AI Painting Tool and "Suryast" Copyright Registration Efforts in India, Canada & the US | 10 Nov 2024 | 01:08:16 | |
Show Notes: Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Artist & Attorney Stefania Salles Bruins on "How to Work Your Lawyer-Trained Brain to Strengthen Your Cranial Nerve 2" Part I - A 2ND Saturday Conversation | 06 Oct 2024 | 00:37:28 | |
see also: Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| D. Paul Schafer on Shifting to the Cultural Age and his book, The Great Cultural Awakening | 01 Sep 2024 | 01:10:16 | |
To learn more, please visit the World Culture Project and read about D. Paul Schafer's most recent book, The Great Cultural Awakening 0:00 Schafer quotes Gurte: “live in the whole , the good and the beautiful” 2:15 background 7:50 Ontario Arts Council 8:15 Arts Administration and Cultural Policy graduate program at York University 8:45 freelancer-UNESCO, Canadian Dep’t of External Affairs 9:25 publications predicated on argument that it’s time to shift from Economic Age to Cultural Age 9:50 creation of the World Culture Project 16:40 Culture: Beacon of the Future (1998) 18:10 AI impact 18:45 Geoffrey Hinton’s concerns over AI 20:50 Revolution or Renaissance: Making the Transition from an Economic Age to a Cultural Age (2008) 24:25 The World as Culture: Cultivation of the Soul to the Cosmic Whole (2022) 30:05 The Great Cultural Awakening: Key to an Equitable, Sustainable and Harmonious Age (2024) 42:30 future leaders should have backgrounds in the arts and culture sector 46:50 Feedback received about The Great Cultural Awakening 48:00 excerpt from The Great Cultural Awakening’s chapter titled Tale of Two Ages that references Charles Dickens’ Tale of Two Cities 53:00 the power of art to address social injustice 1:00:00 definition of justice 1:02:20 Cultural Historian Johan Huizinga, author of The Waning of the Middle Ages 1:04:20 legacy 1:06:40 future projects Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Dr. Andres Guadamuz on IP in the AI Age: Exploring Copyright, Authorship, and Future Regulations | 04 Aug 2024 | 01:00:42 | |
Show notes: 1:20 background and work in IP law and technology 2:20 blog article, “What can internet history teach us?” 3:25 IP issues emerging in the age of AI 5:10 inevitability of AI 6:40 global regulation of AI 8:25 Emily Gould - which body would handle global regulation of AI 11:00 Council of Europe’s adoption of first AI international treaty 11:50 Gould - UK proposal to expand text and data mining exception to cover commercial uses 14:55 transparency issues 18:40 Gould - response - need for legislation 20:20 authorship question 21:40 THJ Systems v. Sheridan (THJ Systems Ltd. v. Sheridan [2023] EWCA Civ 1354, [2024] E.C.D.R. 4, CA, 20 November 2023) is of great interest because it confirms the test for originality in copyright law in the UK after Brexit. 22:55 Li v. Liu, Case Number: (2023) Jing 0491 Min Chu No. 11279, Beijing Internet Court, 27 November 2023 25:00 NFTs 25:30 Thaler v. Perlmutter and USCO, USCA Case #23-5233 29:30 continued utility of copyright 32:40 AI copyright suits in the US 36:30 cultural impact of AI models’ accelerated training capabilities 38:20 view of whether there is a future for careers in art 42:50 tools like spawning.ai for artists’ protections 43:00 opt ins versus opt outs 43:50 technological protections like Glaze and Nightshade 45:15 difficulty of implementing opt ins 47:45 injustices in the AI age and definition of justice 50:33 mark that Andres hopes to make with his work 53:40 Stefania Salles-Bruins - IP protection for AI software and outputs Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Artist in Exile: Tetiana Cheprasova Shares About Her Work as a Witness of her Time | 07 Jul 2024 | 00:59:22 | |
To learn more about Tetiana Cheprasova, please visit her page at Agency of Artists in Exile. 0:00 Tetiana Cheprasova's view of the war in Ukraine & interpreter Valentina Kostornichenko 1:30 Cheprasova's background and work in painting, photography, sculptures and graphic design 4:50 Giovanni Ercolani’s book The Maidan Museum Preserving the Spirit of Maidan. Art, Identity and the Revolution of Dignity that features Cheprasova’s paintings inspired by Caravaggio 8:00 from Cheprasova's Depassement portfolio - paintings of hands, including wounded hands signifying stigmata 10:30 Mariupol woman who inspired Cheprasova 20:40 ‘Stop Emotions’ series of 9 paintings 25:00 Cityscapes of Mariupol 29:30 sculpture that’s part of new work to depict destruction in Ukraine 34:00 Parisian architecture 35:00 consequences of war 38:00 power of art to address social injustices and the impact of war 41:00 Cheprasova's view of justice 45:40 Cheprasova’s work as art therapist 49:20 Cheprasova’s hope for viewers of her work 53:00 Giovanni Ercolani’s questions to Cheprasova 56:00 if only one person is impacted by your work, it’s worth doing 56:50 Artists as witnesses of their time Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Author & Historian Angie Elita Newell Discusses her book, All I See Is Violence, involving the 1876 Battle of Little Bighorn and the 1970s American Indian Movement | 09 Jun 2024 | 00:49:47 | |
To learn more, please visit Angie Elita Newell's site for All I See Is Violence. 4:00 impetus to address historic inaccuracies 4:50 women warriors 5:30 research process 7:20 perspectives decided on for All I See Is Violence 8:45 interconnectedness of all 10:15 timelines within All I See Is Violence 11:50 reading from All I See Is Violence 16:50 archival research 18:45 surreal stories from elders 20:40 feedback 21:40 Custer 22:40 power of art to address social issues 23:00 Picasso’s Guernica 25:00 reparations 25:50 the Very Little Truth and No Reconciliation Committee 27:00 reservations / prison camps 28:30 publishing process and manipulation of the truth by the big 5 publishers 32:30 Indigenous Poet Joy Harjo 33:30 American Indian movement in the 1970s 35:50 concept of justice related to awareness 38:40 next book tells story of Apache leader Geronimo and female warrior Lozen 43:50 research on Lozen 45:00 Mexican slave trade of indigenous people 45:45 questions from Anjali Rao 47:00 to build dual timelines, Newell asks questions about what’s the point and building on that overarching point Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Deadria Farmer-Paellmann Provides an Update on Restitution Study Group's Work for Slavery Justice, including the Status of the Benin Bronze Suit Against the Smithsonian Institution | 26 May 2024 | 00:36:37 | |
Cover Photo by Nils Paellmann 1:30 overview of suit and issues raised 4:30 Prof. Tobias Skowronek’s findings on the metals contained in the manillas 7:00 Dismissal of suit against Smithsonian based on mootness 7:55 court order that Plaintiffs conceded points and waived arguments 8:45 ruling in OK reparations case for the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre 10:30 Nigerian declaration by outgoing President Buhari 12:00 critical argument that transfer was ultra vires 13:00 Administrative Procedure Act - failure to hold public hearing on ‘ethical transfers’ creates First Amendment issue 15:00 opinion on Nigeria’s position 17:00 DNA research as to descendants from Esan People from Benin Kingdom 19:00 Benin Kingdom’s enslavement of their females 21:00 change in narratives offered by Frankfurt’s Museum of World Cultures and Berlin’s Humboldt Museum 23:30 Benin Kingdom Museum in Harlem, NY 25:15 underreporting on lawsuit 26:00 shock about value of Benin Bronzes - a classic Wakanda story at end of first Black Panther film 28:20 potential for justice in US lower federal courts and in SCOTUS 31:00 narrative attached to the Benin Bronzes 33:30 Illinois State Rep. Carol Ammons - Joint chairwoman of Illinois Legislative Black Caucus meeting with Chicago's Field Museum 34:30 NY Legislator involved in work of RSG Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Fast Familiar Co-Founder Rachel Briscoe on Creating Audience-Centric Theatre to Facilitate Dialogue and Address Social Issues and How Tech Can Serve Humanity in that Process | 05 May 2024 | 00:40:16 | |
To learn more, please visit Fast Familiar's site. 0:00 Briscoe discussing justice 1:20 Briscoe’s background in theatre and co-founding Fast Familiar 3:15 2015 project ‘Invisible Treasure’ about systems of power 4:40 2018 began work with computational artist Joe McAlister 5:20 technological solutions for use in projects 9:40 collaborations 10:25 The Evidence Chamber - forensic science work with University of Dundee 13:00 use of comic strip with forensic information in The Evidence Chamber 15:40 Curse of the Burial Daggers 18:00 Smoking Gun - collaboration with Data Stories 23:00 outcomes in jury shows and influence of current events 25:25 machine learning with data gathered through projects 26:45 process 28:40 Future for Fast Familiar 30:30 justice defined 32:20 feedback 35:35 arts to address social issues 38:20 2024 projects Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Author & Art Historian Dr Laura Morelli Discusses her Historical Fiction Novel The Last Masterpiece and WWII Looting of Florentine Collections | 21 Apr 2024 | 00:46:00 | |
To learn more, please visit Laura Morelli's site. 0:00 Laura Morelli discussing the WWII era art looting 1:15 genesis of writing about the looting of Florentine art collections in The Last Masterpiece 2:45 German Jewish artist Rudolph Levy as guest of German Art History Institute 4:30 Stolperstein for Levy 5:00 perspectives in WWII Italy: museum officials, German expatriates and Allies 8:30 German Eva Brunner and American Josephine Evans - characters in The Last Masterpiece 9:30 decisions on where to begin and end The Last Masterpiece 13:30 decision to use fictional characters versus historical figures in book 14:40 German Art History Institute Director Prof. Friedrich Kriegbaum 16:00 Kriegbaum’s participation in Hitler’s 1938 tour of Florence 18:25 Brunner’s back story 20:10 German photographer Hilde Lotz-Bauer who worked for Prof. Kriegbaum photographing Allied damage to historical monuments in Florence 24:15 Evans based on Women’s Army Corp (WACs) 28:25 women who worked with and supported the Monuments Men 29:00 justice in terms of the individual actions and decisions that enabled the survival of art looted during WWII 31:30 books by Robert Edsel and Ilaria Dagnini Brey 32:15 survival bias 33:30 van Dyck painting 33:40 Uffizi Director Eike Schmidt’s work for Germany to return looted Dutch painting 35:00 impact of propaganda during WWII 38:10 Michelangelo’s Secret Room with 16th C drawings 42:20 2024 release of book related to hiding places in Tuscan countryside in 1943-44 Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Novelist & Attorney Barbara Hinske Discusses her Rosemont Series, Guiding Emily Series & Hallmark Movie, Discrimination Against the Blind, Art's Ability to Address Social Issues and Much More | 07 Apr 2024 | 01:00:11 | |
To learn more, please visit Barbara Hinske's website. Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| *Bonus* "Manifestation of Freedom" from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid | 31 Mar 2024 | 00:03:18 | |
Featuring excerpts from Episode 108, an interview with Dr. Ashfaq Ishaq, and Episode 105, an interview with Milena Chorna, with musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2024. Many thanks to M.C. Sungaila who sparked the idea for "Manifestation of Freedom". Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Appellate Attorney M.C. Sungaila on Space Cultural Heritage Preservation and Lessons to be drawn from Holocaust-Era Restitution Cases like Cassirer | 03 Mar 2024 | 00:47:07 | |
Show Notes: Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Attorney Sanjay Sethi Discusses Artistic Freedom Initiative's Work, Oppression of the Arts and Cultural Sectors Globally & the Need for Pluralistic Discourse | 18 Feb 2024 | 00:55:07 | |
Cover image by Nosrat Tarighi of Sanjay Sethi at an AFI event entitled Revolutions and Movements Show Notes: 2:00 overview of Sethi’s background and work as Founding Partner of Sethi & Mazaheri, LLC and Co-Executive Director of Artistic Freedom Initiative (AFI) Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Dr. Elizabeth White and Dr. Joanna Sliwa discuss their book, The Counterfeit Countess: the Jewish Woman Who Rescued Thousands of Poles During the Holocaust | 04 Feb 2024 | 00:57:14 | |
Show Notes: Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Researcher Chiara Gallo on Influencer Advertising & Art - A 2ND Saturday Conversation | 21 Jan 2024 | 00:51:10 | |
Show Notes: Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Anthropologist and Author Dr. Giovanni Ercolani on Artists in Ukraine Who Are Preserving the Spirit of Maidan | 07 Jan 2024 | 01:06:54 | |
To learn more, please have a look at Dr. Ercolani's book, The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan. Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| *Bonus* “Signs” from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid | 22 Dec 2023 | 00:03:54 | |
Featuring excerpts from Episode 121, an interview with Dr. Samson Munn and musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2023. Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Copyright Advocate & Author David Newhoff on State Sovereign Immunity, IP, AI and Artists' Rights - A 2ND Saturday Conversation | 17 Dec 2023 | 01:07:52 | |
Cover Photo of David Newhoff by Sean Mekas Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Dr. Samson Munn on Recovering Art by Jacob Mącznik and other School of Paris Artists, Escaping the Burden of Silence Through Dialogue, Citizenship, Israeli PM Netanyahu, the Fraught Concept of Legacy & Defining Justice | 03 Dec 2023 | 01:25:55 | |
Cover Image: Self-Portrait, oil on canvas by Jacob Mącznik. 0:00 Dr. Samson Munn discussing Van Ham art auctionhouse 1:45 Munn’s background 2:50 history of Holocaust-related dialogue with Dan Bar-On 4:00 Children of the Third Reich 4:20 Austrian dialogue group 4:35 Ghosts of the Third Reich 6:00 second group, The Encounter 7:45 Dan Bar-On’s book Fear and Hope 12:00 examples from dialogue groups 17:15 Munn’s initial motivation to start dialogue group - emotional responsibility 24:40 Munn’s dialogue work in Northern Ireland 27:25 dialogue work with descendants of displaced indigenous peoples 28:50 preparation for dialogue group facilitators 32:20 screening individuals for dialogue groups 33:45 Israeli, Polish and German citizenship 44:30 Jacob Mącznik’s work 1:00:00 Van Ham auctionhouse 1:06:00 Parisian archive research 1:11:00 Munn’s research of other artists from the Paris School 1:12:30 female artists from the Paris School 1:14:30 Mącznik catalogue raisonne 1:17:00 legacy that Munn is working to create 1:19:30 justice 1:22:30 Israeli PM Netanyahu Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Fair Use and AI - A 2ND Saturday Exploration | 19 Nov 2023 | 00:45:09 | |
Show Notes: 0:00 Yelena Khajekian 1:30 Warhol v Goldsmith decision by SCOTUS 3:00 USCO NOI’s Question 8 4:00 Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc., 593 U.S. ___ (2021) 4:20 liability question 4:45 Emily Gould - fair use 6:30 Alan Robertshaw - Warhol court’s focus on use of the work 7:50 Khajekian - artists’ perspective on Warhol decision 9:00 Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc., 510 U.S. 569 (1994) 10:20 confusion of fair use analysis and court’s aesthetic analysis 12:00 USCO NOI’s Question about fair use 13:00 Robertshaw - UK’s fair dealing analysis 15:50 Gould - big players like Getty 17:45 text and data mining exception 20:10 Drawdy - private contracting as a solution 21:00 Robertshaw - Getty 22:15 Khajekian - conceptual art 25:55 Warhol’s 2 Cir decision 26:50 Gould & Khajekian - Richard Prince decision held not fair use 27:20 Khajekian - equity issue 28:40 Gould - UK courts’ emphasis on purpose, e.g., Stormtrooper helmet case 30:30 Drawdy - amount and substantiality of use 31:10 Gould - Australian case about Men at Work’s use of folk song Kookaburra in its pop song Down Under 32:20 Robershaw - dispute over Vanilla Ice’s Ice Ice Baby 33:00 Ed Sheeran 34:15 Getty case pending in UK 35:00 Khajekian - international versus US issues 37:30 Robershaw - test that contemplates level of effort or end result regarding AI output 40:30 Gould - risks involved with AI 40:50 EU’s application-based approach 41:10 AI for medical applications 41:55 detecting forgeries will still require humans, e.g., conflicting AI results regarding Raphael 42:50 implicit bias in AI 43:15 dogs detecting forgeries 43:40 chickens detecting shapes Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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| Glance at Culture - Martha Szabo's NYC Solo Exhibition & MSeum's Celebration of Unknown Female Artists | 05 Nov 2023 | 00:54:31 | |
Cover art: Martha Szabo, Rooftops in Snow 11, oil on linen, 24 x 35 in., circa 1964 Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.
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