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| 181 Lt. Jason McHenry - Alabama | 30 oct. 2026 | 01:03:06 | |
181 Lt. Jason McHenry - Alabama
Lt. Jason McHenry joins Wayne from Alabama for the first-ever Warden's Watch interview from the
Yellowhammer State. Jason looks back on a career path that took him from Alabama State Trooper to
youth minister and back into law enforcement as a Conservation Enforcement Officer. The conversation
covers Alabama's unique hunting opportunities, year-round wildlife enforcement challenges, innovative
hunter education programs, and one of the most distinctive conservation K-9 programs in North
America.
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Here’s what we discuss:
Alabama becomes the latest state added to the Warden's Watch map
Jason's recent promotion to Lieutenant
Balancing administration with field work and mentoring officers
Alabama's law enforcement structure and conservation districts
Hunter education returning under law enforcement oversight
Public shooting ranges and firearms education programs
Archery in Schools programs and state tournaments
Mentor hunts for new deer and turkey hunters
Fishing outreach and recruitment of new outdoorsmen
The importance of teaching firearm safety to youth
"I'd much rather them be familiar with a firearm so that they can be safe with it."
Jason's family connection to law enforcement
Six years as an Alabama State Trooper
Leaving law enforcement for youth and urban ministry
Returning to public service and joining Conservation Enforcement
Similarities between highway patrol and game warden work
The investigative nature of conservation law enforcement
Long-term wildlife investigations that can take years to develop
Alabama's lengthy hunting seasons
Three-buck annual limit for hunters
A doe-a-day harvest opportunity throughout much of the season
Alabama's successful whitetail deer restoration history
Year-round enforcement responsibilities
Feral hog and coyote hunting permits
Turkey, dove, waterfowl, fishing, and alligator seasons
"We stay busy year round."
Search and rescue support operations
Assisting with tornado recovery and disaster response
Rural operations and trauma medicine training
Cottonmouths, alligators, and other southern wildlife challenges
Alabama's record-setting alligator harvest
Alligator tag lotteries and hunting opportunities
Resident-only alligator permits
The challenge of constantly changing wildlife regulations
Trail camera restrictions and fair chase discussions
Modern hunting technology and hunter "hit lists"
Growing use of thermal optics and night vision devices
Investigating illegal thermal hunting cases
The impact of technology on wildlife law enforcement
Drones and the future of wildlife enforcement challenges
The importance of public tips and cooperation
Alabama's unique conservation K-9 program
Beagles used to track wildlife violators
Partnership with the Alabama Department of Corrections
Finding non-barking beagles ideal for conservation work
Meet Jason's tracking dog, Poundcake
A turkey poaching case solved with K-9 tracking
Tracking a suspect from the scene back to his hunting camp
A turkey hunter accidentally shot while using a decoy
Another successful beagle-assisted investigation
Tracking and apprehending night hunters
Recovering firearms and locating fleeing suspects
The public relations benefits of using beagles
"It's hard to have a bad day."
The rewards of a career as a game warden
The bond shared between conservation officers across North America
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett
Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches
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| 180 Will Seegers - Vermont | 16 oct. 2026 | 00:44:56 | |
180 Will Seegers - Vermont
Vermont Game Warden Will Seegers joins Wayne to discuss life as a conservation officer in the Green
Mountain State. From water survival training and cold-water emergencies to boating safety, ice rescue,
and working Vermont's lakes and waterways, Will shares stories from the field and lessons learned
throughout his career.
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Here’s what we discuss:
Will's path to becoming a Vermont Game Warden
Seven years on the job and finding his stride
Training and mentoring the next generation of wardens
Becoming involved in instructor and field training roles
NASBLA officer water survival training
Why game wardens work in high-risk water environments
How duty gear affects swimming and survival
Experiencing full-uniform water immersion training
Learning to function in realistic emergency scenarios
Creating flotation devices from duty pants
Surprising lessons about ballistic vests in the water
"The biggest surprise for me was just how quickly you fatigue wearing duty gear in the water."
Which pieces of equipment become the biggest burden
Firearm retention and survival considerations
When equipment can be replaced and when it can't
Psychological challenges of abandoning gear
Cold water immersion and ice rescue realities
Why panic is often the greatest danger after falling through the ice
The importance of spreading body weight and self-rescue techniques
The story behind a game warden earning the nickname "Otter"
Life jackets and why experienced wardens wear them more often as their careers progress
Inflatable PFDs versus inherently buoyant life jackets
Potential failure points with inflatable life jackets
Why checking CO₂ cartridges matters
Officer safety considerations around waterways
Real-world case studies involving law enforcement encounters in the water
How quickly a routine contact can become a life-threatening situation
"All you need is to be near water and it could become a relevant variable in what unfolds."
Running Vermont's first officer water survival courses
Teaching wardens how to protect themselves during falls from boats and docks
Extrication techniques and getting back aboard safely
Why the training is practical rather than "high-speed" tactical instruction
The value of experiencing problems before they happen for real
Lake Champlain and the challenges of large-water operations
Open-water survival techniques
Conserving energy and body heat while awaiting rescue
Vermont's world-class fishing opportunities
State-record fish from Lake Champlain
The legend of Champ, Lake Champlain's famous lake monster
Expanding water survival training throughout Vermont and neighboring agencies
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett
Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches
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| TGL046 CORY GAUTEREAUX | 08 oct. 2026 | 01:18:37 | |
What happens when a national-security crisis reaches your own backyard—and you refuse to look away?
In this Thin Green Line episode of Warden’s Watch, John Nores and Wayne Saunders welcome Cory Gautereaux, founder of The GOAT Initiative, for a firsthand look at border security, intelligence gathering, human trafficking and environmental crime along the California–Mexico border.
Cory is a San Diego County native, U.S. Army veteran, Christian, husband, father of two daughters and small-business owner. He grew up exploring the same East County trails where he now conducts field operations.
Before founding The GOAT Initiative, Cory served as a UH-60 Black Hawk crew chief and door gunner. He later worked as a respiratory therapist on rapid-response and trauma teams.
When the border surge reached his rural community, Cory began finding discarded passports, children’s identification documents, abandoned cellphones and evidence of cartel activity. He also encountered individuals identified as Special Interest Aliens. Recognizing that valuable intelligence was being left behind, Cory created The GOAT Initiative to document it and deliver actionable information to local, state and federal law-enforcement agencies.
The GOAT Initiative now operates a 24/7 intelligence effort focused on trafficking networks, smuggling routes and potential homeland-security threats. Cory has testified before Congress and briefed senior officials in Washington on border security, human trafficking and related national-security concerns.
The conversation also examines illegal cannabis operations and their effects on California’s water, wildlife and wildlands. Cory describes suspected water theft, destroyed vegetation, hazardous chemicals and troubling conditions reportedly found where workers were living. John draws upon his decades investigating cartel-operated grow sites to explain how these crimes affect ecosystems, rural communities and already-limited enforcement resources.
In this episode:
• How The GOAT Initiative began• Cory’s work along the California–Mexico border• Discarded passports, children’s IDs and recovered cellphones• Special Interest Aliens and potential homeland-security threats• Using trail cameras and community knowledge to gather intelligence• Human trafficking and organized smuggling networks• Communication gaps among local, state and federal agencies• Illegal cannabis operations and suspected water theft• Damage to wildlife, waterways and wildlands• Labor-exploitation concerns at illegal grow sites• Challenges facing Border Patrol agents and military personnel• How veterans, ranchers and rural residents could become force multipliers• Getting actionable intelligence into the hands of people who can act
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The GOAT Initiativehttps://thegoatinitiative.org
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X and Instagram: @thecorygoatX and Instagram: @thegoatinitiative
This episode contains firsthand accounts, personal opinions and discussion of suspected or ongoing criminal activity. Some allegations and circumstances discussed have not been independently adjudicated.
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| 179 Saving Oka – With NH Turtle Rescue | 28 sept. 2026 | 00:58:34 | |
179 Saving Oka – With NH Turtle Rescue
In this episode of Warden’s Watch, Wayne follows up on the disturbing New Hampshire turtle cruelty
case by sitting down with Dallas Huggins and Drew Stevens of the New Hampshire Turtle Rescue. They
share Oka the turtle’s recovery story, explain the challenges facing native turtle populations, and
highlight the conservation work needed to protect these remarkable animals for generations to come.
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Here’s what we discuss:
Why Wayne wanted to learn more about turtle rescue after covering the turtle cruelty case
Wayne’s story about rescuing an injured crow nicknamed “Survivor”
Meeting Dallas Huggins and Drew Stevens from New Hampshire Turtle Rescue
How Oka the turtle got her name
The rescue’s annual naming themes for turtles
Reports of turtle crossing signs being vandalized in Hillsboro
Growing concerns about an unusually high number of dead turtles on one road
Neighbors documenting suspicious activity around turtle crossing areas
The night Oka was discovered
Volunteer transporters helped get Oka to the rescue
The extent of Oka’s shell injuries
Emergency treatment, pain management, and stabilization efforts
“What pain has a turtle ever done to anybody?”
Conservation Officer Zach Abrahamson’s investigation
The use of a turtle decoy during the investigation
Charges laid against the offender
Discussion about penalties and wildlife cruelty laws
Public reaction to the case
Gaps in legal protections for some turtle species
Efforts to strengthen New Hampshire’s turtle protection regulations
The dangers of people taking wild turtles home as pets
Challenges caused by improper care and disease transmission
The impact of illegal turtle collection and the pet trade
How Oka’s shell repair differed from typical vehicle-strike injuries
Concerns about possible spinal damage and paralysis
The painstaking process of cleaning and rebuilding a damaged shell
Discovering that Oka was still carrying an egg after the attack
Recovery updates and Oka’s progress
“She’s acting like a normal turtle.”
Why the rescue believes the case should serve as a catalyst for change
The origins of New Hampshire Turtle Rescue
Learning wildlife rehabilitation through raptor and general wildlife care
Taking over turtle rehabilitation work from a retiring mentor
Expectations of a few turtle cases turning into hundreds
Growing demand for turtle-specific wildlife rehabilitation
Why roads are the biggest threat facing many turtle populations
The importance of habitat conservation
How long-lived turtle species struggle to recover from population losses
The role of wetlands, vernal pools, and connected habitats
Wildlife-friendly culverts and safe road crossings
Efforts to improve crossings for Blanding’s turtles and other species
Why rehabilitation is only a temporary solution without habitat protection
Moving turtles safely across roads
Seasonal turtle movements beyond nesting season
Fall migrations to overwintering sites
The remarkable site fidelity of native turtles
“The best way to help turtles is land conservation.”
How listeners can support New Hampshire Turtle Rescue
Resources available for people who find injured turtles
The rescue’s mission to help an ever-growing number of turtles
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett
Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches
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| 178 The Turtle Trap – With Zach Abrahamsson | 14 sept. 2026 | 00:50:10 | |
178 The Turtle Trap – With Zach Abrahamsson
A quiet back road, a string of dead turtles, and a community determined to protect local wildlife.
Conservation Officer Zach Abrahamsson joins Warden's Watch to tell the incredible story behind "The
Turtle Trap," an investigation that used a toy turtle decoy to catch a suspect responsible for a shocking
act of wildlife cruelty. From citizen observations to undercover surveillance, this episode highlights the
challenges of proving wildlife crimes and the importance of protecting vulnerable species.
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Here’s what we discuss:
Wayne welcomes Zach Abrahamsson from New Hampshire Fish and Game.
The case begins on Bog Road in Hillsboro, New Hampshire.
Residents install turtle crossing signs to protect nesting turtles.
The signs begin disappearing.
Someone leaves a handwritten message demanding the signs be removed.
Witnesses notice a local resident repeatedly driving a side-by-side up and down the road.
Dead turtles begin appearing along a short stretch of roadway.
Concerned citizens carefully track the number of turtles being found.
Fifteen turtles are found dead over a short period.
A nesting turtle catches the attention of nearby residents.
Witnesses watch as a man picks up the turtle, places it in the road, and stomps on it.
The injured turtle survives and is rushed to a licensed rehabilitator.
The turtle is expected to make a full recovery.
Hillsboro Police contact Fish and Game to investigate.
Zach discusses New Hampshire's wildlife cruelty law.
Officers begin planning a proactive operation.
Fellow officer James Benvenuti suggests using a toy turtle as a decoy.
"My son has this toy turtle."
The realistic decoy is placed along the road.
Officers hide nearby and wait.
A passing vehicle unintentionally disrupts part of the operation.
Zach spends several tense moments hiding behind a large boulder.
"My heart was pounding."
The suspect spots the decoy turtle.
He turns around and deliberately drives over it.
The action is captured on video.
The suspect immediately heads home afterward.
Officers explain the difference between circumstantial evidence and proof beyond a reasonable
doubt.
Zach breaks down how wildlife cases are built for court.
The chargeable offense centers on the turtle that witnesses observed being stomped.
The decoy operation helps reinforce the investigative findings.
Zach explains the difference between felony and misdemeanor wildlife cruelty charges.
The discussion turns to officer discretion and appropriate punishment.
"The most important thing is getting this guy to stop doing this."
The suspect pleads guilty to the charges.
The case results in fines and a criminal record.
Public reaction to the case is intense.
Balancing accountability with changing behavior.
The importance of reporting suspicious wildlife activity.
Zach explains the conservation impact of losing multiple turtles.
Remarkably, the famous turtle decoy survives the operation with only a cracked shell.
The battle-scarred decoy earns permanent trophy status among the officers.
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
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Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches
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| W10 Lisa Feener & Kelly Irwin – Pack Life | 28 août 2026 | 01:18:03 | |
W10 Lisa Feener & Kelly Irwin – Pack Life
Kelly Irwin and Lisa Feener join the podcast to share their experiences in the world of hound hunting,
from raising generations of bear dogs to navigating a traditionally male-dominated sport. This
conversation explores memorable hunts, dog breeding, wildlife behavior, mentorship, and the deep
bond between houndsmen and their dogs. More than anything, this episode is about the dogs, the
people who love them, and the traditions that keep the sport alive.
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Here’s what we discuss:
Meeting through New Hampshire Bear Hunters Association field trials
Why women are still relatively uncommon in hound hunting
The term houndsmen and why neither guest worries much about labels
Keeping things simple and focusing on the dogs
Kelly's introduction to hunting with hounds after meeting her husband
Falling in love with the sport almost immediately
Building a family bloodline that now stretches six generations
Lisa's first exposure to hound hunting while working on bear research
Using hounds to capture and study radio-collared bears
Discovering that hounds are more than just tools
"Of course they're dogs. They're going to want to play, they're going to want to snuggle, and
they just have this really intense job."
Driving hours to learn more about dogs and hound hunting
Mentorship, friendship, and learning the craft together
"I want you to have a real bear dog."
Trial and error while building a successful pack
Learning to manage different dog personalities and abilities
The differences men and women can bring to dog training
Reading dogs through their voices, behavior, and body language
Understanding each dog's strengths and weaknesses
Memorable hunts in steep mountains and rugged terrain
Recovering dogs from cliffs and navigating difficult country
A successful bear hunt that led to an unexpected encounter with hikers
Turning curiosity into a positive educational experience
Common misconceptions about hunting with hounds
"The strongest relationship you can have with an animal is to hunt with it."
Why most houndsmen are motivated by the dogs, not the harvest
"It's not about how many bears you can kill. For most houndsmen, it's about the dogs."
Watching young dogs develop and gain confidence
The excitement of a puppy figuring things out for the first time
"Some of the most memorable hunts are when the puppies learn a thing."
Catch-and-release bear hunting during training season
Understanding bear behavior and seasonal food sources
Following clues from what bears are eating
Studying movement patterns and habitat use
Building bloodlines and preserving desirable traits
The role genetics plays in creating successful hunting dogs
"You have full ownership over the outcome of that dog."
Why local bloodlines often perform best in local conditions
Hunting differences between northern New Hampshire and northern Maine
Water crossings, cold trailing, and challenging terrain
How regional conditions shape dogs over generations
Hunting with children and introducing the next generation
The teamwork required to manage a successful hound hunt
Working together through guide camps and outdoor adventures
Processing bears in the woods rather than rushing back to camp
Slowing down and appreciating the entire experience
"Take time to smell the roses."
Why the journey matters more than the harvest
Looking ahead to another season with the dogs
Credits
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| 177 The Creek Kings Case – With Mark Williams | 20 août 2026 | 01:44:07 | |
177 The Creek Kings Case – With Mark Williams
What happens when modern poaching meets social media fame? Ohio Wildlife Officer Mark Williams
shares the story of the Creek Kings case, an investigation that exposed years of illegal deer hunting
hidden behind a successful YouTube channel. What began with a park visitor finding hunting equipment
in a metro park quickly grew into a massive digital investigation involving trail cameras, cell phone data,
deleted evidence, fake hunting locations, sponsorship money, and some very ambitious trophy hunters.
Mark takes us through the case from the first clue to the final sentencing and explains how technology
helped both the offenders and the officers who caught them.
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Here’s what we discuss:
Meet Ohio Wildlife Officer Mark Williams
Why Mark calls this a "21st century poaching case"
The rise of wildlife commercialization through social media
The Creek Kings Outdoors YouTube channel
Hunting for views, sponsorships, and online fame
A park visitor discovers hunting equipment in Three Creeks Metro Park
Metro Park Ranger Stefan Brook gets involved
Building partnerships before a major case pays off
Trail cameras, tree stands, and ATV trails in the park
Investigators identify two cousins as suspects
Zach Bethel and Justin Booth become the focus
How cellular trail cameras changed the investigation
"It would have been impossible for them to do what they did without technology, and
impossible for us to stop them without ours."
Rangers document repeated hunting activity
Officers begin monitoring the YouTube channel
Hunting equipment, filming gear, and surveillance cameras
The challenge of predicting suspect movements
Rangers catch the suspects entering the park
Excuses about lost dogs and accidental hunting
Contradictions begin piling up
Hidden cameras and deleted messages
Evidence tampering enters the picture
"The only lesson they learned was not to hunt it with equipment they couldn't carry out."
Search warrants for phones and digital devices
Suspects underestimate the investigation
Recovering deleted information
Discovering years of illegal activity
Investigators realize the case is much bigger than expected
Illegal deer linked to YouTube content
Prodigy, Turkeyfoot, Wide 10, and other named bucks
Hunting places they had no permission to hunt
Recovering deer across multiple properties
The fake Kentucky hunts
Deer allegedly harvested in Kentucky were actually killed in Ohio
Manipulating videos to create a false story
Property owners misled by the suspects
Sponsors unknowingly backing illegal hunting content
"These guys made tens of thousands in material and monetary wealth from illegally killing
wildlife."
Investigators spend months analyzing phones, computers, drones, and photos
Five years of documented activity uncovered
The Metro Park becomes their "cheat code"
Conversations about avoiding detection
Planning future fake Kentucky hunts
Using drones to locate deer
Hunting-related drone violations
Evidence from podcasts, texts, videos, and photos
How social media became a treasure trove of evidence
The decision to focus on the strongest charges
Cooperation between wildlife officers, park rangers, prosecutors, and tech specialists
76 total charges filed
Plea agreements and guilty pleas
Over $29,000 in wildlife restitution
More than $37,000 in total financial penalties
Nine days of jail time
Five-year revocation of hunting, fishing, and trapping privileges
Wildlife Violator Compact consequences across North America
Ban from Metro Parks and Alum Creek State Park
Restrictions on possessing hunting equipment
"They treated it like their own private preserve."
The damage done to sponsors and supporters
Hunters who felt betrayed by the channel
The dangers of chasing fame and online success
Lessons for conservation officers facing digital-era wildlife crimes
Why Mark believes more cases like this are coming
The importance of protecting public resources
Final thoughts on greed, accountability, and conservation
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett
Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches
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| 176 Open Fields Doctrine - With Chief Travis McLain | 26 juil. 2026 | 00:48:28 | |
176 Open Fields Doctrine - With Chief Travis McLain
This week on Warden's Watch, Wayne sits down with Missouri Department of Conservation Chief of
Protection Travis McLain to tackle one of the most misunderstood topics in conservation law: the Open
Fields Doctrine. As both a conservation officer and attorney, Travis breaks down where the doctrine
came from, what it actually means, and why protecting wildlife resources requires a balance between
private property rights and public trust responsibilities.
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Here’s what we discuss:
Why the Open Fields Doctrine continues to generate confusion
Common myths about game warden authority
How conservation officers operate under the same constitutional protections and
limitations as other law enforcement officers
The origins of the Open Fields Doctrine and Hester v. United States
What the Fourth Amendment protects and what it doesn't
Why open fields are different from homes, curtilage, papers, and personal effects
"The Constitution really does apply to conservation officers, just like other police officers."
Why there isn't a game warden behind every tree
How conservation officers prioritize calls, complaints, and active hunting and fishing activity
Respecting private landowners while protecting public wildlife resources
The connection between the Open Fields Doctrine and the Public Trust Doctrine
How wildlife belongs to all citizens, not individual landowners
The history of wildlife management in North America
Robin Hood, the King's deer, and the roots of wildlife law
Why the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation is unique
The role of science and public input in setting regulations
Wildlife management as a balance of biological and social factors
Missouri's recovery from just 2,000 deer to around a million!
"What got us there when they start thinking about totally upsetting the apple cart or
changing the system."
How conservation law enforcement supports long-term wildlife sustainability
The importance of relationships between agencies, landowners, and sportsmen
Why 93% of Missouri being privately owned creates unique challenges
What could happen if conservation officers couldn't investigate wildlife violations on private
land
The role regulations play in protecting future generations of wildlife
Why enforcement is about protecting resources, not writing tickets
Conservation officers as educators and community partners
How officers are trained to respect private property rights
Social media misconceptions about conservation law enforcement
Why many large landowners welcome conservation officers onto their properties
Protecting hunting opportunities for everyone
How officers provide valuable field information back to wildlife biologists
Baiting, disease transmission, and fair chase concerns
"Rules without enforcement are just suggestions."
The Boone and Crockett Club's Poach and Pay study
Why the biggest deterrent to poaching is the presence of a capable guardian
How major wildlife cases often begin with small observations in the field
The difference between making cases and protecting resources
"It's not about the case. It's about stopping the damage that's being done to the public trust
resource."
Why successful conservation means more compliant hunters and anglers, not more citations
Protecting wildlife regardless of land ownership, wealth, or status
Challenges faced by public land hunters
Why wildlife moves freely across property boundaries
The importance of fair and consistent enforcement
Looking beyond today and managing resources for future generations
"If we all work together and respect each other, we can continue to keep going into the
future for everybody."
Final thoughts on balancing private property rights and public wildlife resources
Debunking the myth of "special powers" held by game wardens
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
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| 175 Jessica Avery – Manitoba, Canada | 14 juil. 2026 | 00:35:59 | |
175 Jessica Avery – Manitoba, Canada
Jessica Avery from Manitoba Conservation Officer Service joins Wayne at the North American Game
Warden Museum to talk about her career, life as a conservation officer in Manitoba, serving on the
museum’s board of directors, and some of the incredible places game wardens patrol in northern
Canada. From winter road caribou patrols and -60C mornings to fish poaching stakeouts and wildfire
deployments, Jessica shares what makes conservation work in Manitoba both challenging and
rewarding.
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Jessica explains the Manitoba Conservation Officer Service and how the agency has evolved over
the years
Her role as Canadian Treasurer for the North American Game Warden Museum
The unique international location of the museum
Why the museum is a "pilgrimage" destination for game wardens
Starting as a seasonal conservation officer in Manitoba
How Manitoba still offers one of the few seasonal conservation officer programs in Canada
Growing up in Saskatchewan, calling Alberta home, and building a career in Manitoba
“I’m really lucky to get to go all those places and do that kind of stuff.”
Patrolling Manitoba’s remote northern wilderness
Fly-in caribou patrols and winter road enforcement
Common caribou hunting violations officers encounter
Working alongside northern Indigenous communities
Staying in remote bush camps and nurse barracks
Northern lights and untouched wilderness in Manitoba’s far north
Waking up to temperatures around -60C (-76F)
Trucks refusing to start in extreme cold
“We were just not as prepared as we probably should have been for those temperatures.”
Using helicopters and float planes to reach remote areas
Conservation officers' role in wildfire operations
Long fire assignments and burnout challenges
Supporting firefighters with logistics and supplies
Why Manitoba has experienced severe wildfire conditions
Human-caused fires versus lightning-caused fires
Deep-burning peat and bog fires that can survive winter
Being part of a game warden family
Why so many Manitoba conservation officers meet their spouses through the job
Managing a long-distance conservation officer relationship
Building a family while advancing both careers
Moving from field work into headquarters leadership roles
Life on Manitoba’s endless prairie road system
Jessica’s favorite game warden story: a winter walleye-poaching stakeout
Surveillance in -45° temperatures
Trying not to sound like a “bull in a china shop” while sneaking into position
Catching poachers who had been using the same spot for years
“They were shocked.”
How consistent enforcement led to voluntary compliance
The value of the North American Game Warden Museum
Learning from other law enforcement museums across North America
The surprising success and size of the Game Warden Museum
“It’s just such a great career, great lifestyle.”
“I can’t imagine doing anything else with my life other than being a game warden.”
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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
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| 174 Chris Egan - With Tayton Keezer | 25 juin 2026 | 00:48:44 | |
174 Chris Egan - With Tayton Keezer
This episode brings us a fresh perspective as Conservation Law student Tayton Keezer steps behind the
mic to interview retired New Hampshire CO Chris Egan. What starts as a simple student-to-officer
conversation turns into a mix of mentorship, hard truths, and wild field stories, as Tayton connects what
he’s learning in school to what the job really looks like in the field.
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Tayton stepping in as guest host and kicking things off with Chris
Chris’ early love for the outdoors and where it came from
Growing up around hunting, fishing, and camp culture with family
“I think it’s innate in every kid… it just needs to be fostered.”
Early influences from his dad and grandfather
Developing people skills at a young age by learning from others in the field
The importance of curiosity and asking questions
The best parts of the job, independence and building your own patrol days
“Patrolling woods and waters in an area that I love to be in”
Flexibility in choosing how to work, from boats to ATVs to foot patrol
Balancing independence with the structured nature of the role
Least favorite parts - including paperwork and detailed reporting
The reality that reports can become court evidence
The harder side of the job: fatalities, searches, and recoveries
“Those things don’t go away… they’re like a scar in your mind.”
How difficult calls can stay with you over time
Advice for young hunters and anglers entering the outdoors
Concerns about fewer kids spending time outside
“I just don’t understand how you could be bored outside.”
The mental health benefits of being outdoors
The joy and meaning the outdoors brought to Chris’ life
The balance of the job, rewarding one day and demanding the next
“Some days you shouldn’t be getting paid… other days you should be getting paid 10 times.”
Early interactions with wardens and how they shape perception of the role
Field techniques and tricks learned from other officers
A case involving illegal exotic animals inside a residence
Walking into what felt like a zoo inside someone’s home
A late-night Sasquatch call
“I had to respond to it without laughing.”
The risks of working in remote areas at night
A major poaching case involving a moose shot multiple times
The long investigation that went unsolved for years
A last-minute confession just before the statute of limitations expired
“I’m here to take responsibility for what I did.”
Accountability, personal change, and closure in that case
Chris’ approach to enforcement, firm but fair
The importance of maintaining relationships in small communities
How those relationships can impact safety and future cases
Conservation officers as a voice for wildlife
Encouragement for the next generation entering the field
Reflecting on a career built on passion, responsibility, and respect
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
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| 173 Etienne Daigle – Quebec, Canada | 12 juin 2026 | 01:00:17 | |
173 Etienne Daigle – Quebec, Canada
If you’ve ever wondered what game wardens deal with north of the border, this one delivers. From bear
decoy busts to baby crocodiles in a bunker, “Agent de la faune” Etienne Daigle gives us a front row seat
to wildlife enforcement in Quebec, Canada - and it’s anything but predictable.
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Starting the job at just 20 years old after switching from police academy to game warden
training
“It’s two totally different jobs” - policing the woods vs the streets
Quebec wardens enforce fish, game, and trapping laws, not full police powers
Arresting suspects as a citizen in uniform before turning them over to police
First posting in Lac Saint-Jean - a remote territory with massive patrol areas
“People just don’t like bears” due to concerns about moose calves
His very first case - a bear decoy operation during closed season
Lying in a ditch as a hunter returns with his family
Waiting for a second shot to confirm intent
A plane flying overhead causes the hunter to panic
Moving the decoy’s head to trigger a reaction
“Dad, the bear is moving” leads to a second shot
Officers step in after clear evidence is established
“He truly thought it was a real bear.”
Covering areas with 10,000 plus lakes and hours-long patrol drives
Fishing opportunities - walleye, pike, and lake trout everywhere
Moose hunting rules - multiple hunters and shared tags required
“About a $2,500 fine” for illegal harvest
“The most dangerous animal is a moose with a calf.”
Transfer to a mining region brings more drug-related cases
“We are there for wildlife, but we deal with human problems too.”
Case involving a drug dealer with two baby crocodiles
Illegal possession of exotic animals without proper permits
Joint operation with provincial police
Planning entry into a single-access basement
Unexpected twist - the suspect’s father answers the door
Securing the scene and removing the animals safely
“Drugs and reptiles seem to go together.”
Roughly 300 officers covering all of Quebec
Balancing wildlife enforcement with real-world danger
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| W09 New England Naturals - With Jake DeBow | 28 mai 2026 | 01:01:38 | |
W09 New England Naturals - With Jake DeBow
Jake DeBow didn’t just grow up around trapping; he grew into it, built a life around it, and somehow
turned frozen beaver ponds, late nights, and a sewing machine into a thriving business. In this episode,
Wayne sits down in Jake’s trapping shed to talk about New England Naturals, the art of fur, and why
more people are starting to care about where their food and even their clothing comes from. Spoiler:
beaver might be the best red meat you’ve never tried.
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Kicking off the return of Warden’s Watch Wild: “I’ve got some wild stuff going on.”
Meeting Jake DeBow, three years in the making to get him on the show
Growing up with a father who was a nuisance wildlife trapper
“It was always raccoons and skunks coming home in cage traps.”
Sports first, trapping later, rediscovering it in college and grad school
Getting into beaver trapping because “beaver meat is delicious.”
Starting a trapline together as a couple, relationship goals outdoors style
“She was never squeamish… just fascinated.”
Using everything from a beaver: meat, fur, skulls, and glands
The “rabbit holes” of natural products and curiosity
The quiet, frozen beauty of winter trapping
“There’s something really special about being out there.”
Why trapping is harder to get into than hunting
Appeal for young adults after college looking for purpose and connection
Accessibility of beaver vs deer, “there’s a beaver in just about every ditch.”
Feeding 50% of their red meat intake from beaver
“I’ve never had someone try it and not love it.”
Beaver as the “beef of the river,” rich, mild, versatile
Supplying beaver for a wild game dinner, big reactions from the crowd
Getting 9 to 12 meals plus weeks of dog food from one animal
The origins of New England Naturals and frustration with low fur prices
“We got $12 a beaver… it didn’t feel right.”
Early side hustle, Etsy shop, tinctures, moose antler dog chews
Pandemic pivot and turning $2,000 and fiddleheads into a sewing machine
Teaching themselves fur sewing from scratch
Starting with beaver fur koozies and laughing about early attempts
The TikTok turning point, one video and everything sold out
“We couldn’t keep up… we were sewing until 2AM!”
Hiring their first employee and outgrowing the basement
Moving into a real workspace and rapid growth over two years
Using social media for education, not just selling
Breaking misconceptions about trapping and outdated stereotypes
“Trappers were quiet for 30 years… that time is gone.”
The importance of public understanding and support
Why people are reconnecting with their food
“There’s something special about being responsible for what’s on your plate.”
That same mindset applied to clothing and materials
Fur as durable, warm, and biodegradable
Plastic clothing “is going to be your grandkids’ problem.”
Product focus on practical, hard-use gear
Core products: muffs, mittens, bomber hats, and hand warmers
“We want fur in people’s hands that actually gets used.”
Beaver fur hand warmers - simple, reusable, effective
Cat toys made from real fur: “cats go nuts for them.”
Future ideas: blankets, vests, and more product expansion
Balancing growth, time, and staying true to their mission
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| 172 For the Fallen: First Sgt. Karl Kelley - Indiana DNR | 13 mai 2026 | 00:43:05 | |
In this National Police Week memorial episode, Wayne sits down with two men who lived through an
unimaginable moment when a training exercise turned into a fight for survival. Retired Indiana DNR
Lieutenant Colonel Terry Hyndman and First Sgt. Tom Jahn revisit the day they lost their friend and
teammate, First Sgt. Karl Kelley, in a swift water incident that still shapes them decades later. It’s a
difficult listen at times - but an important one - and a reminder of what service and brotherhood truly
mean.
“It is not how these officers died that made them heroes; it is how they lived.” ~ National Law
Enforcement Memorial, Washington, DC
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| 171 Kevin & Kathy Behr - Survivors With Purpose | 07 mai 2026 | 00:31:44 | |
On this episode of Warden’s Watch, we sit down again with Ohio’s Kevin Behr - this time joined by his
wife, Kathy - to talk about survival, recovery, and the purpose they’ve found after Kevin was shot in the
line of duty. Recorded at the International Game Warden Conference, this conversation goes beyond
the incident itself and into what happens after - for officers, spouses, families, and anyone navigating a
critical incident. A powerful update, an honest conversation, and a reminder that survival comes with
responsibility - and that even in the worst moments, purpose can still be found.
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Kathy’s spouse‑focused training on critical incidents - and why she created it
“You don’t realize what you don’t have in place until it’s happening”
Navigating power of attorney, medical decisions, and legal realities mid‑crisis
Being Kevin’s voice while he was unconscious - medically and legally
Why law enforcement statements on medication can be problematic in court
The emotional toll on spouses and kids when an officer is critically injured
Kevin seeing purpose in survival: “We did - they didn’t, so we have work to do.”
Turning trauma into something meaningful, even when healing isn’t linear
Stubbornness as a survival trait (and yes, it helped)
Brain injury recovery, negativity, and recognizing the long road back
Living with permanent change and reframing it positively
“Any fool can get through this - I’m living proof.”
The power of humor in trauma recovery
Doctors who refuse to give up: “Nobody quits on my team. Not even you.”
Finding a new purpose when the old one can’t exist anymore
How Kevin’s experience now helps train officers, trauma teams, and agencies
The ripple effect of sharing hard truths so others can prepare
Sidebar conversations that matter more than the main stage
Why laughing, crying, and telling the story all matter
“Everybody’s the main character in their own story.”
Surviving isn’t the end - it’s the beginning of responsibility
Kevin and Kathy as resources for those walking similar paths
Miracles along the way - and choosing to keep them moving forward
Credits
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| Field to Fork - Wild Game Cooking with Iron Skillet | 23 avr. 2026 | 00:41:32 | |
In this episode of Warden’s Watch, we’re introducing a new sponsor to the show - Iron Skillet Seasonings - and sitting down with the people behind the product. Founder Dennis Dedek and new owner Cody Baciuska join us to talk about how Iron Skillet got its start, why their seasonings are developed specifically for wild game, and what makes them different from anything else on the shelf. From decades‑old family recipes to practical, real‑world cooking advice, this is a conversation about making wild game taste its best - without overcomplicating it.
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| 170 The Ray Anderson Case – Washington State | 17 avr. 2026 | 01:04:37 | |
What began as a baffling discovery in a Washington State clearcut quickly turned into one of the most significant wildlife cases in the region – mainly because of the sentence that followed. Officers Lanny McOmber and Sergeant Brian Alexander walk us through a long, technical investigation involving multiple poached elk, complex necropsies, geofence warrants, cutting-edge tech and a suspect who just couldn’t stay away.
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· Why officers called it the Ray Anderson case
· Four elk found dead in a clearcut
· “There was no question - this was a poaching incident.”
· Necropsies on multiple elk in field conditions
· No bullets or brass recovered
· A fifth elk tied to the incident
· Early frustration with limited evidence
· Asking the public for tips
· Turning to geofence warrants
· A complex, multi‑step warrant process
· Waiting months for data returns
· Separate trespassing issues on timber land
· Cut gates and trail cameras
· A familiar vehicle keeps reappearing
· The suspect returning near the scene
· Contact with a convicted felon
· Firearms located in the vehicle
· Quietly keeping cases separate
· Geofence data starts lining up
· An interview that slowly tightens
· Initial denials turn into admissions
· The claim of “guiding” elk by shooting at them
· Washington’s spree‑killing statute explained
· Elevating wildlife violations to felonies
· How prior case law came full circle
· The gut punch of sentencing day
· A delayed - but meaningful - outcome
· Mentorship and career‑defining cases
· “You create your own luck in this job.”
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| 169 – PAGC Tracking Team | 03 avr. 2026 | 00:39:04 | |
In this episode of Warden’s Watch, we sit down with members of the Pennsylvania Game Commission’s Tracking Team - a rare, highly trained group of game wardens who specialize in man tracking. From grassroots beginnings and intense training standards to real‑world deployments where everything clicks, this conversation explores what it truly means to be experts in the woods. Along the way, the guys share powerful success stories, gear talk, and a reminder that camaraderie might just be the most important tool they carry.
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· How Pennsylvania’s Tracking Team grew from a small grassroots idea
· Wardens investing in their own training before the team officially existed
· The missing person search that proved the team’s value
· What it really means to be “the police in the woods”
· Why earning a tab can take two to five years
· The training required to stay on the team, from tracking to firearms to med skills
· Why trackers focus on disturbance, not perfect boot prints
· “If it was just footprints in the sand, we wouldn’t need a tracking team.”
· Learning the natural patterns of the woods - and noticing what breaks them
· How time, distance, and decision‑making shape every search
· A call‑out that led to a young boy being found and returned home
· A fugitive pursuit that unfolded just like a training scenario
· “Everything clicked - it felt like Christmas morning.”
· How tracking teams and K9 units support each other in the field
· Knowing the limits of scent work and when human tracking matters most
· The gear they carry and why preparation is everything
· A quick snack can be a small thing that makes a big difference
· How mapping and coordination happen before teams ever hit the woods
· The close‑knit camaraderie that defines the team
· What it means to wear the tab and lead by example
· The “shirt off your back” tradition
· Why so many wardens want to join the team - and why standards stay high
· How teams like this help agencies stay trusted, capable, and relevant
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| 168 Talking Turkey - With Patrick Gibbs & Ben Martin | 20 mars 2026 | 00:39:24 | |
Spring might still be a snow-covered dream up north, but down in Georgia the dogwoods are thinking about blooming – and that means the turkeys
are waking up. This week, Georgia Game Warden Patrick Gibbs and Ben Martin of HuntRegs join Wayne for a closer look into the southern turkey season, the surprising quirks of Georgia’s big‑game rules, and why the HuntRegs app is becoming one of the most powerful tools in the field. From license mistakes to a Thanksgiving turkey story involving a dog with questionable morals, this one’s packed with practical advice and classic game warden comedy.
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· Spring turkey talk and the north–south difference in season timing
· Patrick’s 13 years as a Georgia game warden
· Working the Georgia coast: shrimping, crabbing, oysters, and commercial fisheries
· Moving inland and “traditional” game‑warden work
· HuntRegs’ goal of improving public understanding of what wardens actually do
· “There’s not enough game wardens” - why follow‑up matters
· What wardens look for on a turkey hunter check
· Licensing requirements for turkey
· Bag limit changes: two per season, one per day
· “Leave one to keep the population going”
· Printed harvest records vs app check‑ins
· You can game‑check without service and upload later
· Requirements: record before moving the bird, game‑check within 24
hours
· Turkeys as the most‑poached species and why tagging matters
· Patrick’s approach with inexperienced hunters and juveniles
· Why turkey hunters tend to be more seasoned
· Public‑land turkeys: “No inexperienced hunter is killing a Georgia public bird”
· Florida, early spring weather, and turkey chatter starting up
· “When the dogwoods bloom, the turkeys gobble”
· Common mistakes: assuming WMAs follow statewide turkey dates
· Miss the quota? “You’re definitely getting a ticket.”
· HuntRegs app: geolocation, pin drops, license requirements, special rules
· Archery‑only zones, no‑camping rules, and property‑specific notes
· Game wardens using the app themselves before checks
· Printed regs and rules: “They call it the digest… not very digestible!”
· Growth of HuntRegs and its state‑by‑state customization
· A turkey tossed out a car window, then snatched and hidden by a dog
· “Did you charge the dog - aiding and assisting?”
· No fall turkey season in Georgia; hens always protected
· HuntRegs‑generated cases: night hunting, baited duck ponds, hunting without permission
· Duck pond baited with molasses and corn, caught on Thanksgiving morning
· Why community tips matter
· Focus on catching blatant violations: night hunting, baiting, hunting under the influence
· Anonymous reporting, optional follow‑ups, and confidentiality
· Georgia’s monetary rewards for tips leading to convictions
· Improving the system based on warden feedback
· “Already a good day when you learn something new.”
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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
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| 167 Amanda McKune – Illinois | 06 mars 2026 | 00:40:30 | |
It’s Women’s History Month, and there’s no better time to highlight CPO Amanda McKune - Illinois officer, new mom, and the 2025 NWTF Officer of the Year. Amanda shares the behind‑the‑scenes reality of the job: the long hours, the high‑stakes turkey and deer cases, the instincts that guide her, and the determination that has already defined her first six years in the field. Humble and relentless, she’s exactly the kind of story this month is made to celebrate.
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· Stepping onto the NWTF stage and realizing the scale: “I had no idea going into that… wow.”
· Working turkey and deer hunters in southern Illinois - being “in the right place at the right time.”
· The habitual turkey poacher and the tip that set everything in motion.
· Working 3 AM mornings through April until she finally caught him.
· Charging him with 8 birds she could prove, knowing the real count was far higher.
· Spending another April up before dawn to catch him again during suspension.
· The rush when officers from another district caught him a third time.
· Why turkey cases are so tough: long hours, staying still, waiting.
· “Sometimes it doesn’t add up… but 90% of the time it leads to something.”
· The strain of April on her young family - “They put up with me the whole month of April.”
· A wild deer case: a shot at dark, a suspect in Long Johns, and three huge bags of illegal deer corn.
· Interviews stretching for hours as he claimed he was “just looking.”
· Finding his gun buried in a creekbed, wrapped in his unworn camo: “We were all amped up… we got him.”
· Growing up fishing, discovering her interviewing superpower — “People just like to talk to me.”
· The importance of catching a single word out of place.
· Illinois’ massive deer - with 26‑pointers becoming normal in some counties.
· Ongoing cases involving 30+ illegally killed deer.
· Starting her career in the same county she grew up in.
· Knowing the land, families, and history.
· Tips and informants as the backbone of most big cases.
· Balancing motherhood, a state‑trooper husband, and long hours: “I’m taking advantage now and trying to catch these guys while I can.”
· The rise of night road hunting and non‑residents chasing big Midwest deer.
· October–December feeling like another April.
· A new era of poaching — thermal optics and crossbows with thermals.
· Working across the Missouri border and the challenges of multi‑state cases.
· District teamwork: “It takes all of us to make these big cases.”
· The impact of heavy illegal take on local populations — especially in concentrated areas.
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| 166 Badges on the Bayou | 26 févr. 2026 | 00:51:59 | |
On this episode of Warden’s Watch, we head deep into Louisiana with Captain Will Roberts and Sergeant Terry Hicks — two wildlife agents who bring the state’s culture, cases, and Cajun humor to life. From crawfish wars and cooking secrets to big-game patrols, wild night‑hunting busts, and the state’s legendary boat poker runs, Will and Terry share stories that reveal a Louisiana most of us have only imagined. It’s part culture lesson,
part law‑enforcement adventure, and entirely Louisiana.
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· Cajun cooking traditions, heavy seasoning, and why the roux matters.
· “You season everything two or three times.”
· Crawfish culture, regional boil methods, and the friendly “crawfish wars.”
· How Louisiana farms, regulates, and harvests crawfish — and how dry weather affects production.
· Wildlife across the state: deer, turkey, black bears, and tightly regulated alligator seasons.
· Long deer seasons, electronic tagging, and how multiple hunting seasons overlap.
· Busy waterways, boating safety, and enforcing alcohol laws on the water.
· “A DWI on the water is the same as on the highway.”
· The Tickfaw 200 poker run, big boats, long routes, and how safety has evolved.
· Career paths, teamwork, and how Operation Game Thief works behind the scenes.
· Memorable trespass, baiting, and night‑hunting cases,
including turkey hunters caught sitting on cracked corn.
· Decoy operations and the mix of funny, tense, and unpredictable encounters.
· Working small communities where they often know the people they catch.
· Strong landowner relationships and why most hunters follow the rules.
· Cajun identity, accents, and local names like sac‑a‑lait and pull‑dues.
· What keeps them in the job — the adventure, the outdoors, and the humor.
· “I’m surprised they pay us for a lot of the stuff we do.”
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| 165 Shawn Elmore – Georgia DNR | 13 févr. 2026 | 01:09:04 | |
After more than 30 years with Georgia DNR, Sgt. Shawn Elmore joins Warden’s Watch for a long‑awaited conversation filled with humor, hard lessons, and unforgettable cases. From hunting alongside his dad as a child to becoming one of Georgia’s leading boating‑incident investigators, Shawn shares a mix of heartfelt family stories, outrageous poaching cases, and high‑stakes investigations that helped change state law. Join us for a candid, funny, and deeply human look at life behind the badge.
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· Finally recording after four years of trying
· Shawn’s 30+ year career with Georgia DNR
· Growing up hunting with his dad
· “That’s what I’m gonna do for a living.”
· His son becoming interested in law enforcement
· Catching multiple in‑laws over the years
· “It takes you a long time to build your credibility… and a snap of a finger to lose it.”
· People claiming to “know” wardens to get out of trouble
· Losing friends after catching them or their kids
· Multi‑year landfill hunter case with warnings, tickets, then arrest
· A later case involving another family connection
· Hunting traditions, beagles, rabbits, and swamp rabbits
· Southern sayings and the “Lost in Translation” team
· The convicted felon firearm case: “Let me guess - the bullet fairy put this in your pocket.”
· Reading body language as a critical warden skill
· “Our mouths can get us into trouble, and they can keep us out of trouble.”
· The 501‑charge poaching investigation
· Conspiracy, false statements, and multi‑year suspensions
· Charging only what can be won in court
· Identifying violators based on decades of local knowledge
· His role with Georgia’s boating reconstruction team
· Early fatal boating cases and long‑lasting emotional impact
· High‑profile boating incident involving police officers
· The Jake and Griffin Prince case and Georgia’s BUI law change
· Challenges unique to boating investigations: sinking, drifting, disappearing evidence
· Teaching reconstruction and impaired‑operation detection nationwide
· The Georgia Outdoor News “Hall of Shame” bait case
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| 164 James Mortimore - Nevada | 29 janv. 2026 | 00:47:06 | |
In this episode, Wayne sits down with Nevada Game Warden James Mortimore from the floor of the Sheep Show® in Reno, NV - complete with bugling elk echoing in the background! From rescuing kayakers in monsoon swells on Lake Mead to blow-darting mountain lions and tracking illegal alligator sales on Facebook, James has lived the full spectrum of wildlife policing in one of the most diverse law enforcement landscapes in the country. His stories from Las Vegas to Reno show the grit, humor, and sheer unpredictability of being a modern Nevada warden.
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· The “Las Vegas warden”
· Crowded urban ponds and busy boat patrols made every day unpredictable
· Watching for the folks who pack up quickly when a warden shows up
· A wild monsoon rescue in six‑foot swells
· For Colorado River wardens, rescue calls are everyday business
· Low water levels reveal old mob‑era secrets - and the jokes that came with it
· “I think that’s why we got our water back.”
· An illegal alligator seller learns the meaning of “take a bite out of crime.”
· Blow-darting mountain lions in neighborhoods and on golf courses
· Dealing with a sedated mountain lion while a homeowner complains through their doorbell cam
· Moving from Vegas to Reno and learning the world of bears and mountain lions
· The importance of biologists and cross-team collaboration
· Nevada’s pay and retention challenges
· Covering massive patrol areas — sometimes thousands of square miles during vacancies
· Poaching investigations built using GPS dog collar data
· Odd urban cases: “dinosaur bones,” sea turtles, and surprisingly realistic bald eagle replicas
· Working with the Bureau of Land Management, U.S. Fish & Wildlife, and other federal partners
· Learn more about Nevada wardens in the new Animal
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| 163 Larry Hergenroeder – Pennsylvania | 16 janv. 2026 | 01:11:47 | |
From growing up with a game warden father to leading investigations, Staff Sergeant and canine handler Larry Hergenroeder has seen it all—and loved every minute of it. In this episode, Larry shares why he believes being a game warden is “the coolest job on earth,” how his canine partners have cracked cases in record time, and why networking through NAWEOA matters more than ever.
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· Growing up in western Pennsylvania and finding his calling
· “I had game warden blood in my blood.”
· From Montana guide school to the academy
· “My only regret is losing those years I could have been doing this full-time.”
· Why being a game warden is more than a job
· “I live, eat, sleep, breathe this profession… I just want to be a game warden.”
· The power of NAWEOA networking and lifelong friendships
· “I haven’t had a month go by without a call from another state or province.”
· K9 program success stories: Storm and Rio crack tough cases
· “In 33 seconds, Storm found the evidence that solved a fatal shooting.”
· Challenge coins and the stories behind them
· Inspiring the next generation of wardens through conferences and mentorship
· Hunting-related shooting incidents and the emotional side of the job
· “One is one too many.”
· Family, sacrifice, and the brotherhood of game wardens
· “A profession sought by many, held by few, and only made possible by those family members that know the true meaning of sacrifice.”
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| TGL045 Andy Huynh | 01 janv. 2026 | 01:34:33 | |
In this powerful episode of The Thin Green Line Podcast, we sit down with Andy Huynh, a conservation professional whose career has taken him from global conflict zones to the front lines of wildlife protection.
Andy shares his journey from growing up in Southern California, to military service, to nearly a decade working overseas combating illegal wildlife trade, environmental crime, and transnational criminal organizations. His firsthand experiences reveal how wildlife trafficking fuels terrorism, human trafficking, armed conflict, and genocide—particularly in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.
This conversation goes far beyond poaching. It exposes the global criminal networks behind ivory, rhino horn, illegal timber, and conflict minerals—and how modern technology, consumer demand, and corruption all play a role.
Now back in the United States, Andy is beginning a new chapter in wildlife law enforcement, bringing a rare international perspective to protecting natural resources at home.
How Andy’s upbringing and military service shaped his path into conservation
The reality of illegal wildlife trade as a global criminal enterprise
Poaching, poverty, coercion, and organized crime
The humanitarian and environmental crisis in eastern DRC and Virunga National Park
Wildlife trafficking’s connection to terrorism, human trafficking, and conflict minerals
Corruption and failures in international peacekeeping efforts
Why protecting wildlife and protecting people are inseparable
Andy’s transition into wildlife law enforcement in California
Environmental crime is not a niche issue—it is one of the largest drivers of global instability. This episode offers rare, firsthand insight into how deeply connected wildlife conservation is to human rights, national security, and the future of the planet.
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| 162 Polar Bears & Patrols – With Jack Skillings | 24 déc. 2025 | 00:45:42 | |
From patrolling on sea ice and responding to polar bear calls to managing wildlife in remote communities, Conservation Officer Jack Skillings takes us deep into the Canadian Arctic. Offering a rare glimpse into wildlife enforcement in the far north, Jack shares the rewards and realities of protecting the environment in some of the most isolated places on Earth.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Yukon’s Conservation Officer Services Branch and its role
· Nunavut: Canada’s newest territory
· Nunavut’s unique conservation structure
· “There’s at least one conservation officer in every community.”
· Patrolling without roads: snowmobiles, ATVs, boats, and planes
· Polar bear management and why it’s handled by territories, not federal agencies
· Community policing: “education over enforcement.”
· Modern polar bear research using DNA instead of tags
· Differences between Nunavut and Yukon: isolation vs. road access and teamwork
· “The biggest difference in Yukon? Roads. Having a truck changes everything.”
· Wildlife species and hunting traditions: caribou, muskox, seals, moose, sheep, and Arctic char
· A polar bear deterrence gone wrong
· Life in remote communities
· “My favorite thing was just getting out on the land - patrolling, hunting, fishing.”
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| 161 Alone in the Wild – with Isaiah Tuck | 11 déc. 2025 | 00:42:34 | |
What happens when a game warden takes on one of the toughest survival challenges on TV? West Virginia's Isaiah Tuck joins Wayne to share his incredible journey from enforcing wildlife laws to braving complete isolation on the hit series Alone. Discover the mental grit, survival skills, and life lessons that come from living off the land - and why solitude can be the ultimate teacher.
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· Isaiah’s path to becoming a West Virginia game warden
· “Every day as a game warden is about adapting to the unexpected.”
· How wildlife law enforcement prepared him for survival challenges
· Behind the scenes of Alone
· Preparation, mindset, and reality
· “The woods teach you patience - and patience is survival.”
· The hardest part of isolation: mental battles and self-reflection
· “Being alone strips you down to who you really are.”
· Hunger, weather, and wildlife encounters
· The gear he trusted most—and one item he wishes he'd brought
· Lessons learned from solitude and self-reliance
· Advice for anyone dreaming of testing their survival skills
· “Survival isn’t about strength—it’s about adaptability.”
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| 160 Warden-Hunter Interactions | 29 nov. 2025 | 00:50:37 | |
In this episode of Warden’s Watch, Wayne sits down with Ben Martin, founder of the Hunt Regs app, and Hayden Cook, a Tennessee Wildlife Officer, for a deep dive into warden-hunter interactions, safety in the field, and the story behind one of Tennessee’s most infamous poaching cases - the Maserati Buck. From practical advice for hunters to insights on wildlife law enforcement, this conversation is packed with real-world lessons and strategies to stay compliant in the field.
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· Ben’s journey as a first-generation hunter and why he created Hunt Regs
· “How do I make a game warden comfortable?” - the question every hunter should ask
· Hayden Cook on professionalism: “We serve the hunters and fishermen of Tennessee.”
· Hunter safety tips during license checks and why nervousness can lead to mistakes
· Hunt Regs app: anonymous poaching reports and real-time regulations
· The Maserati Buck case: a 229-inch deer poached under a streetlight near a luxury car dealership
· “Antlers make people do crazy things.” - Hayden on poaching motives
· Honest mistakes vs. intentional violations: why self-reporting matters
· Digital licensing pitfalls and why preparation is key
· Building trust and positive relationships between hunters and wardens
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| 159 Justice for Dave: A Poacher’s Reckoning | 11 nov. 2025 | 00:55:06 | |
In this powerful episode of Warden’s Watch, Pennsylvania Game Wardens Phil Bietsch & TJ Knash share the story of a career-defining poaching case tied to the tragic death of fellow officer David Grove on Veteran’s Day 2010. From building trust to securing confessions, this case is a masterclass in investigative work and emotional resilience. Listen now to hear how justice was served, and a legacy honored.
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· Phil and TJ were classmates at the Ross Leffler School of Conservation
· Working as neighboring officers for four years, they’ve developed a strong investigative partnership
· Emphasis on teamwork, rhythm in interviews, and rapport-building
· Ryan Laumann is a known habitual game law offender
· The case ties back to the tragic death of Game Warden Dave Grove in 2010, who was murdered by Chris Johnson during a poaching incident
· Laumann was a passenger in the vehicle
· Laumann “just went home.”
· Johnson is now on death row
· Equipment and training were improved
· Laumann received a five-year license revocation
· A tip from a former violator turned informant via Operation Game Thief
· “I got away with it once, I can do it again.”
· TJ took the lead
· Keeping emotions in check
· “Take your time.”
· Officers conducted surveillance near Laumann’s residence
· Multiple deer carcasses, gut piles, and antlers
· Officers used rapport and strategic interviewing to gain Laumann’s trust
· Jeff Baile’s interview and interrogation techniques were critical
· Allowing the suspect to tell their version of the story
· Laumann eventually confesses to killing multiple deer
· From a good case to a great case
· “Rapport is the foundation of everything.”
· Laumann was charged with:
3 counts of illegal deer
3 tagging violations
3 counts of scattering high-risk parts
1 over-the-bag-limit charge
· Final penalties: 5-year hunting license revocation and $2,800 in fines
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| 158 Ricardo Grisolini – New York | 30 oct. 2025 | 00:56:56 | |
Ricardo Grisolini, a New York State Environmental Conservation Officer with roots in northern Italy, brings a sharp eye and a sharp wit to wildlife law enforcement. From chasing down poachers to setting up decoy deer that even landowners can’t resist, his stories are packed with twists, laughs, and lessons. In this episode, Ricardo shares some of his most unforgettable and entertaining cases from two decades on the job.
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· Growing up in Northern Italy’s “laces”
· Raised and hunted birds from an early age
· Slow cooked pulled turkey
· “This job is not a job; it's a career.”
· Working in Madison County is “a game warden’s dream.”
· The charter captain’s Christmas fish and the Salvation Army police
· Donating confiscated fish and meat
· A VERY convincing decoy setup nets multiple charges
· A substantial illegal baiting operation on private property
· Poacher insists he used a crossbow
· Trail cams tell a different story
· “The point was out of respect for the animal.”
· Social media can be a warden’s best friend
· New York ECOs don’t wear a traditional badge
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| 156 Bonus - The Killing Krew Klan: Consequences | 19 oct. 2025 | 00:19:45 | |
After the chilling revelations of Episode 156’s “Killing Krew Klan,” the question remained: how would the justice system respond?
What consequences did these young trophy hunters face, and did the punishment fit the crime? In this episode, Investigator Patrick Kiely returns to walk us through the penalty phase of the case. Join us as we uncover the final chapter in one of Connecticut’s most disturbing wildlife crimes.
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· Convictions for wildlife crime aren’t always a slam dunk
· The prosecutor in the case was an outdoorsman
· Original roadside stop netted only a suspended sentence
· Paring down up to 30 charges: what will stick?
· Group pled guilty to jacklighting
· $500 fines and three years’ probation
· Banned from hunting for ten years
· Conspiracy to sell wildlife and a probation violation
· Getting support from judges and prosecutors
· “Any time you serve a warrant … you’re opening a Pandora’s Box.”
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| WiseEye Camera Technology | 09 oct. 2025 | 00:46:23 | |
On this podcast, we sat down. Two dynamic individuals, Chase Hardage and Jason Ray from the Wise Eye technology company, talk about WiseEye's beginnings. What they're doing and how they're doing things differently and better.
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| 156 The Killing Krew Klan – With Patrick Kiely | 27 sept. 2025 | 01:05:28 | |
In late 2018, the Connecticut Environmental Conservation Police uncovered a chilling case involving a group of young trophy hunters. Over just a few months, they had illegally taken at least 19 deer - often during nighttime hunts near residential neighborhoods. What started as a routine investigation quickly unraveled into something far more disturbing: secret planning sessions, a manifesto detailing their exploits, and a twisted tribute to the grandfather who taught them to night hunt. Join Investigator Patrick Kiely as he recounts the unbelievable story of the “Killing Krew Klan.”
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· An area known for night hunting
· Spotting night hunters requires patience and timing
· The state’s healthy deer population is tempting for poachers
· A patrol officer spots suspicious signs
· The initial arrest leads to more questions
· Cell phones: everyone documents everything
· “I wouldn’t even call them hunters; they were trophy poachers.”
· It definitely wasn’t squirrels
· The group is released but phones are seized
· A stunning discovery
· “It was an every-night occurrence.”
· The group frequently hunted near houses
· None of 19 deer were registered
· The puzzle pieces: pictures, locations and times
· The serial poaching had gone on for years, and had grown
· Group relied on thinly stretched law enforcement
· A specific 16-point buck and an unlikely story
· US Fish and Wildlife joins the investigation
· Cell phone metadata pinpoints locations and times
· “Not a care in the world.”
· A handwritten manifesto is found
· The ‘zombie’ deer
· Timing was perfect – and lucky
· Even illegal roadkill wasn’t off limits to the ‘Klan’
· $100 does for sale, and banquet hall venison
· Multiple deer were taken nightly
· Managing investigations and public perception
· Hunters had noticed a decline
· “It was a joke to them.”
· Many state charges were misdemeanors
· Local hunters weigh in
· Technology has changed investigation strategies
· Limitation statutes prevented even more charges
· Getting buy-in from other agencies
· Balancing criminal and wildlife investigations can be a challenge
· The cell phones were crucial
· Rising bear population has led to conflicts
· Educating the public
· Staffing numbers are on the rise
· “It was a learning experience for all of us.”
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| 154 North American Game Warden Museum – with Stephanie Lee | 22 sept. 2025 | 00:26:08 | |
Tucked into a scenic corner of the International Peace Garden, and straddling the border between North Dakota and Manitoba, Canada, the North American Game Warden Museum stands as the world’s only institution fully dedicated to both educating the public and honoring fallen wildlife officers. This one-of-a-kind museum features a memorial garden, exhibits showcasing uniforms and tools of the trade from decades past, along with a library, audio/visual area, and a fascinating collection of items seized by game wardens from across North America. In this episode, we sit down with museum manager Stephanie Lee for an insightful conversation ahead of the museum’s 2025 Fallen Officer Memorial Ceremony.
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· Background in outdoor education
· Began a summer job at the Peace Garden gate
· Approached by the local game warden
· “Never looked back.”
· The International Peace Garden
· Memorial stones from every state and province
· Board members from both countries
· The museum is the only one of its kind
· Educating the public
· Many of the exhibits include seized items
· Constantly changing and reimagining the space
· Campground on site
· Other activities include biking and kayaking
· Open from May – September
· “Part-time photographers”
· The popular Visiting Officer program
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| 155 Blake Patterson – North American Game Warden Museum | 19 sept. 2025 | 00:37:32 | |
In this episode, we talk with Sgt. Blake Patterson, a Conservation Officer from Swan River, Manitoba, and President of the North American Game Warden Museum. Blake shares insights from his 17 years in the field and discusses the museum’s role in honoring game wardens and conservation officers across North America.
Located at the International Peace Garden, the museum highlights the challenges of the profession and commemorates those who have lost their lives in the line of duty.
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· The museum is a place every game warden should visit
· Joined board in 2010
· It’s elk hunting season in Manitoba!
· A unique moose lottery fundraiser
· Manitoba moose population decline
· “I’ve seen those game warden shows. I know I’m done.”
· Fun regional expressions
· The Fallen Officer Memorial Service
· Many museum exhibits feature seized items
· Antique snow machines and hand-powered rail cars
· Always looking for older tools of the trade, uniforms and paraphernalia
· Potential interactive exhibit featuring fallen officer biographies
· A night hunting helicopter chase
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| 153 Murder in Morgan County – with Kirk Kiefer | 15 août 2025 | 01:18:55 | |
In July 2021, a peaceful family camping trip in Ohio’s vast Appalachian Hills Wilderness Area turned into a chilling crime scene. Two lives were lost, and a community was shaken. In this gripping episode, we sit down with ODNR Investigator Kirk Kiefer to uncover the layers of a complex and haunting double homicide.
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· Investigator Keifer appeared in a previous episode
· International Game Warden Association Officer of the Year
· ODNR’s nomination submission
· The ‘ginseng detective’
· Nomination was kept secret!
· A missing persons / suspicious activity report on State land
· The couple’s phones - and daughter - were left behind
· Suspect claimed the couple had gone to CA and were expected back
· A concerned camper contacted ODNR
· The couple’s license plate had recently been checked on the Interstate
· Suspect had a ‘tell.’
· “He was convinced I was a human lie detector.”
· The sudden confession: “I killed ‘em.”
· Killings had happened 13 days prior
· Suspect led investigators to the bodies
· Defense attorney admitted there was no defense to be mounted
· Claimed he was ‘rescuing’ the child
· Body cameras were used in case the suspect did not testify
· Appeared to feel badly about killing the female.
· “Sometimes there is no ‘why’.”
· Never expected to be investigating homicide
· Attended the couple’s memorial services
· Inter-agency cooperation was key to this case
· Killer received two automatic life terms with no parole
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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
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| 152 - 2025 International Game Warden Conference | 01 août 2025 | 01:04:26 | |
For the third time, we were able to sit down at the International Game Warden Conference held this year in Erie, Pennsylvania, with Game Warden Chris Gilkey of Ohio, Game Warden Kris McCabe of the Maine Warden Service, myself, Wayne Saunders, host of the Warden's Watch podcast, and Game Warden Andy Hueser of the Pennsylvania Game Commission who was also instrumental in the organization and implementation of this year's game warden conference.
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| 151 - The Game Warden Channel | 24 juil. 2025 | 00:33:14 | |
Introducing The Game Warden Channel! From the creators of smash hits North Woods Law and Lone Star Law, TGWC is now streaming exclusively on YouTube - bringing you even more real-life stories from game wardens across the US. In this episode, we go behind the scenes with Steve Engel and Ben Shank of Engel Entertainment, Director of Photography Jamie Azar, and New Hampshire’s own Col. Kevin Jordan and Conservation Officers Jon Demler, Austin Valladares, Kevin Bronson, and Josiah Towne. Subscribe now for an even closer look into the world of conservation law enforcement.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· “We’re back!”
· The first call was to New Hampshire
· YouTube allows more flexibility
· Episodes will feature NH, then move to Texas, Nevada, and other states
· NH Fish & Game staff voted unanimously to participate
· Carrying the torch for conservation and conservation officers
· “I’d rather be doing this than probably anything else in television.”
· Officers and camera crew become good friends
· A turkey poacher in the wrong neighborhood
· New show features a smaller crew than network television
· "It's on the interwebs!"
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| TGL044 Greg Traynor Mike Hudson - Accessible Hunter | 17 juil. 2025 | 00:48:57 | |
Greg Traynor and Mike Hudson are the co-hosts of the Accessible Hunter Podcast, a show dedicated to promoting adaptive hunting and outdoor access for individuals with disabilities.
Greg Traynor, a passionate outdoorsman from Pennsylvania, turned his personal experience with a spinal cord injury into a mission to help others overcome physical barriers in the outdoors. Through advocacy, education, and storytelling, Greg inspires hunters to stay connected with the hunting community regardless of ability.
Mike Hudson, based in South Carolina, brings his own adaptive hunting experience and a deep understanding of the challenges faced by disabled hunters. Together, Mike and Greg use the Accessible Hunter Podcast to share powerful stories of resilience, adaptive equipment innovation, and the tight-knit community of accessible hunting enthusiasts.
Their platform highlights not only the triumphs of adaptive hunters but also the importance of making the outdoors inclusive for everyone.
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| 150 Tony Rigoli – New York | 30 juin 2025 | 00:53:39 | |
Lt. Anthony Rigoli is an Environmental Conservation Officer (ECO) who works for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (NYSDEC). In this episode, he takes us through his time as an ECO based in the last place anyone would expect to run into a game warden - New York City!
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· The Great American Outdoor Show
· Many new officers begin in New York City
· “It’s a unique experience.”
· Assigned to Marine Enforcement Unit
· Specialized training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC)
· Encountering high-end watercraft
· “Being a cop is dangerous. Being out on the ocean is dangerous.”
· Many people are unaware there are game wardens in NYC
· Checking fish markets for prohibited goods
· The not-so-secret signal for illegal turtles
· City-dwelling coyotes
· Piloting a brand new 44-foot jet boat
· The challenges of living and working in the city
· “You’ll come away with experiences that no other game warden is going to get.”
· Working with highly experienced and talented officers
· Shoreline fishing in Manhattan and crafty hiding spots
· Tips from the public matter
· 17 conservation officers policing 8 million people
· An outrageous illegal chemical dumping case
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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
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| TGL043 Seth Martin | 19 juin 2025 | 00:59:22 | |
Seth Allen Martin is an American cinematographer and camera operator best known for his work on the hit Animal Planet series North Woods Law: New Hampshire. Born in Sumner, Washington, Martin has built a career behind the lens, capturing the rugged beauty and raw intensity of wildlife law enforcement across New England.
With a strong background in independent film and documentary-style production, Martin joined the North Woods Law crew during the show's transition from Maine to New Hampshire. His camera work helped bring viewers closer to the action—documenting everything from high-stakes poaching investigations to remote search-and-rescue missions in the backcountry.
Outside of television, Martin has also served as director of photography for several indie film projects, including Die-ner (Get It?) (2009). Known for his steady eye, adaptability in extreme conditions, and dedication to authentic storytelling, Martin continues to contribute to conservation-themed media and outdoor adventure filmmaking.
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| 149 Deming Lindsley (Ret.) – New York | 06 juin 2025 | 01:06:13 | |
In this episode, we delve into the long and distinguished career of Deming Lindsley, a retired Lieutenant from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation's Division of Law Enforcement. Known for his expertise in Fish and Wildlife Law, Lindsley served as a primary instructor at both the State College and the Division’s Training Academy for decades. His engaging personality and sense of humor made him popular among both colleagues and students, and he continues to guest lecture today, leaving a lasting impact on countless officers – including our host!
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Taught Fish & Wildlife Law at state university and Law Enforcement training Academy.
· Authored a charging reference guide for judges
· No bail in New York
· Patrolling with Dad
· Growing up the game warden’s kid
· Assigned first patrol in 1972
· Promoted to Lieutenant in just four years
· Teaching at Academy vs. College
· The unintentional getaway driver
· A news crew ride-along catches a poacher red-handed
· “You don’t need a license to jack deer.”
· Attempted bribe doesn’t go as planned
· Little green lies
· Even municipal employees can be tempted
· “Don’t go down to the cellar.”
· Keeping up with changing Fish & Wildlife laws
· People want to talk about animals and laws
· More lightning strikes than black bear attacks.
· “I never had to go to work.”
· Spearheaded one of the first Critical Incident Response teams
· Sent to NYC on 9/11
· Awards and plaques of thanks from all over
· Tried to enforce the spirit of the law, rather than the letter of the law
· Not all violators are criminals
· Teaching generations of conservation law officers
· A namesake K9
· “Do the job. You’ll never regret it.”
Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
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| TGL042 Jorge Ventura | 29 mai 2025 | 01:12:03 | |
Jorge Ventura is a national correspondent known for his bold, on-the-ground reporting across America’s most pressing issues, including the southern border crisis, cartel activity, and civil unrest. Now with NewsNation, Ventura previously made headlines as a lead field reporter for The Daily Caller, where his immersive storytelling took him deep into the heart of stories often ignored by mainstream media.
Ventura is also an award-winning documentary filmmaker, with investigative features like Cartelville USA, Narcofornia, and Indoctrination Nation—projects that exposed illegal marijuana operations, cartel influence, and ideological shifts in public education. His work has been featured on Fox News, BBC, Sky News, and Yahoo News.
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| 148 For the Fallen: Daryl Gordon – Maine Warden Service | 15 mai 2025 | 00:30:49 | |
Maine Warden Service Pilot Daryl Gordon was known for his faith, his love of family, fishing and flying, and his steadfast dedication to the people and natural resources of his home state. While flying over the North Maine Woods after a busy day of service, Pilot Gordon’s Cessna went down in a snow squall, prompting a massive search. Warden Preston Pomerleau, whose K9 service partner is named in Gordon’s honor, shares his memories of that day, and reflects on how the entire Maine Warden Service continues to honor and remember their friend.
“It is not how these officers died that made them heroes; it is how they lived.” ~ National Law Enforcement Memorial, Washington, DC
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| 147 Josiah Towne - New Hampshire | 03 mai 2025 | 00:40:55 | |
Fans of the hit Animal Planet show North Woods Law will instantly recognize CO Josiah Towne. In this episode, Josiah takes us behind the scenes into the dynamic world of a New Hampshire conservation officer, from daring mountain rescues to wild chases, along with some truly unforgettable moments. Join us for a look into the world of a real-life wildlife hero!
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Here’s what we discuss:
· New Hampshire is hiring!
· Appearing on North Woods Law
· Every day is different; every season is different
· Making a dent in the illegal elver trade
· A riverside arrest gone awry
· Improving handcuff techniques
· Patrolling your hometown
· Recognizing fresh perspectives
· The Hawk Unit
· A remarkable rescue operation
· Any trail with the word ‘slide’ in the name…
· The arduous rescue “was all worth it.”
· Many visitors create increased requests for service
· The local Scoutmaster
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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
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| TGL041 Gary Lewis | 24 avr. 2025 | 01:14:15 | |
Gary Lewis is an award-winning outdoor writer, television host, podcaster, and speaker based in Central Oregon. Since launching his career in 1995, he has become a respected voice in the hunting and fishing world, with over 16 books to his name and countless articles published in major outdoor magazines. He hosts the TV series Frontier Unlimited and the Gary Lewis Outdoorsman podcast, sharing real-world adventures from Oregon to Africa. Known for his deep knowledge of firearms, big game tactics, and conservation ethics, Gary continues to inspire sportsmen and women with his storytelling and passion for the outdoors.
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| 146 Run for Levi – With Rob McDermott | 16 avr. 2025 | 00:50:24 | |
On Monday, April 21st, New Hampshire CO Rob McDermott will run the Boston Marathon® in honor of his friend and colleague, Levi Frye. Partnering with the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP), Rob is raising funds to support AFSP's prevention programs, advocacy, education, and survivor support. Next, we will hear from AFSP spokesman David O’Leary, who shares important information about suicide risk and offers suggestions on how to help a friend or loved one who may be struggling. Finally, Sgt. Matt Holmes reads the beautiful eulogy he wrote to honor Levi at his funeral service.
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· Turkey hunting and a fiddlehead harvest
· Joined Fish & Game shortly after Levi
· Roommates in the game warden house
· Eric Fluette and the anonymous ring sizing kit
· Levi was set to receive his second congressional medal
· Partnering with the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention
· Fundraising and training for the Boston Marathon®
· Running with Levi: “we’d get lapped multiple times.”
· Funds raised will help provide resources to others who have lost a loved one
· Ways to offer support:
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The New Hampshire Conservation Officers Relief Association
· Up to 200 first responders die by suicide each year in the US
· Follow the impulse to reach out
· It’s okay to use the word ‘suicide.’
· The most important thing you can do is listen
· Changing our language: “You don’t ‘commit cancer’ or ‘commit high blood pressure’.”
· Boston Marathon® and others allow charities to apply for bibs as fundraisers
· Team AFSP at the marathon
· 1 in 5 Americans has a connection to a mental health issue
· Find information and support here: AFSP
· Sgt. Matt Holmes reads Levi’s eulogy: A man of commitment, and a man in green.
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Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
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| 145 In Memory of Officer Levi Frye | 10 avr. 2025 | 00:56:07 | |
This episode is dedicated to the life and legacy of New Hampshire Conservation Officer Levi Frye. Today, we honor Levi's commitment to protecting our natural world through a lighthearted but insightful interview he gave before his passing, where he shares his passion for his work, the outdoors, and his lifelong dedication to physical fitness. As we reflect on his life, we will also hear a heartfelt poem written and read by Lt. Mark Ober at Levi's funeral service.
If you or someone you know is struggling, please reach out to the 988 Suicide Crisis Hotline.
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| 144 Mindy Rugg - Maine Warden Service | 27 mars 2025 | 00:43:31 | |
In our final episode celebrating Women's History Month 2025, we’re excited to welcome Maine
game warden Mindy Rugg. Inspired by our very own podcast, Mindy transitioned from a successful career as a vet tech to become a game warden in 2021. Join us as she shares her journey, the challenges she faces, and the unique perspective women bring to the job.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Gained many skills in her previous career as a vet tech
· Needed to be outside
· Listened to the Warden’s Watch podcast
· Not everyone loves the game warden
· Hired in 2021, full-time in 2022
· Checking hundreds of boats a day
· On the job experience can be the best communication training
· People react well if you treat them fairly
· Strategies to manage dyslexia
· Spell check, Grammarly, and text-to-speech
· Working in Western Maine – close to home, but not too close
· “Every single day I learn something new.”
· Mindy’s favorite Warden’s Watch episode
· Maine Warden Service now has seven female officers
· Many companies don’t make clothing for women in law enforcement
· Don’t talk yourself out of it - make it happen
· It’s no longer a shock to meet a female game warden
· Women can bring a different perspective to the job
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| 143 Rachel Thurner-Diaz – PA Fish & Boat | 21 mars 2025 | 00:36:55 | |
In this episode, we’re delighted to reconnect with Pennsylvania Fish & Boat Officer
Rachel Thurner-Diaz, who joined us way back in Episode 81. A lot has changed in the three years since we visited last; her husband has joined the local police department, and she is now balancing the demanding roles of a dedicated officer and a busy mom. Join us as we continue to explore the unique experiences and perspectives of women in conservation law enforcement.
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Here’s what we discuss:
· Officer Thurner-Diaz was a previous guest in Episode 81
· Two law enforcement officers at home
· PA is recruiting wardens
· Protecting wildlife is a passion
· More women are joining conservation law
· The Fab Five
· Game wardens of both genders need to be motivated and independent
· Taught by Jeff Baile – another previous Warden’s Watch guest
· Be compassionate but call out deception
· A heated hunter and mistaken identity
· PA has two wildlife agencies
· The volunteer fish stocking program
· Using the ‘mom voice’
· Work-life balance can be challenging
· Looking forward to summer
· Trout stockers still don’t eat much trout
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| 142 Wonder Wardens - With Melissa Gauthier & Therese Bogatko | 11 mars 2025 | 00:50:37 | |
Back in 2018, a small group of female officers from Alberta Fish and Wildlife saw the need to
engage with each other more actively and support community causes at the same time. This dedicated team has since participated in charity fundraisers, launched an outdoor education camp for young women, and is now working to establish a scholarship to help even more women join conservation law enforcement. Let’s meet Alberta’s Wonder Wardens!
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Here’s what we discuss:
· The beginnings of the Wonder Wardens
· Camaraderie and promoting women in conservation law
· Polar dipping in uniform for charity
· Summer camp for future female game wardens
· Wildlife identification, hunting & fishing checks, drills and a mock investigation
· The break-in period
· “We complement each other.”
· Self-confidence matters
· People often make assumptions
· Plans to expand Wonder Wardens
· Proceeds from merch sales will fund a scholarship
· “We’re small but we’re mighty.”
· The importance of agency support
· NAWEOA offers an opportunity to connect and share
· Uniforms and equipment are changing
· Shooting competitions – an all-female team
· Close encounters during grizzly relocations
· Hunters are sometimes surprised to encounter a female warden team
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