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| WITS chats 'Best in Show' | REPLAY | 05 Feb 2026 | 01:07:38 | |
We're re-releasing our episode for 'Best in Show' in honor of Catherine O'Hara. We'll be back next week with a new episode! | |||
| WITS chats 'Black Narcissus' (1947) | 01 Feb 2026 | 01:17:03 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about their second recommendation from the Criterion Closet Picks, 'Black Narcissus.' Recommended by director Edgar Wright, we discuss British colonialism, emotional repression, and the many mirror representations between characters. Music Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo Podcast Jazz Bossa Nova Acoustic Guitar Good Mood Music | by Denis-Pavlov-Music | Pixabay Twinkle Twinkle Little Star | by Maksym Dudchyk Music | Pixabay Shining Star Flourish: Sound Effect by u_it78ck90s3 from Pixabay Spotlight Flourish: Sound Effect by StudioKolomna from Pixabay Movie Clip Shout! Studios | Black Narcissus Full Movie | 13 Nov 2025 | YouTube Sources
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| WITS chat the Star Wars Holiday Special 1978 | 27 Nov 2025 | 00:39:31 | |
Rebecca and Tori are joined by Nancy and Jeff to watch and chat about the 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special. The first part of the podcast has some of our live reactions and the last part is our discussion. If you want to skip the reaction, the discussion starts at 22:00. 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special clips Star Wars Coffee | The Star Wars Holiday Special 1978 (Full) (No Commercials)| 9 Oct 2021 | YouTube Music Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music. A Christmas Tale by Amaksi free on Pixabay Sound Effect Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay Sources | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2 E21 & E22 | 30 May 2024 | 01:11:23 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat Becoming Parts 1 & 2. We discuss things about The Curse that confuse us. Rebecca goes on a diatribe about palm wounds, and we both go off on a tangent about "What We Do In the Shadows." Crickets: Sound Effect by felix_quinol from Pixabay Flight of the Conchords clip from YouTube Print Resource Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2 E20 | 23 May 2024 | 01:01:02 | |
Rebecca and Tori play, I mean chat Go Fish. We try to find some depth to the episode, but instead tangent on women who swam the English Channel and Russian DNA experiments, especially the Humanzee. Crowd cheering sound effect from Pixabay Print Resource Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E19 | 16 May 2024 | 00:59:33 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about "I Only Have Eyes for You." We leave the shallows to take a deep dive into what we think is an under-appreciated episode. Print Resource Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published. Sound Clip Crickets: Sound Effect by felix_quinol from Pixabay
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E18 | 09 May 2024 | 01:00:11 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about Killed by Death. We wax philosophical as we discuss Der Kinderstad, or as we like to call it Der Kinderstalken. We get a bit off the rails as we educate ourselves about schedule 4 drugs and the plagues of Egypt. Print Resources Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published. Sound Clip
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E17 | 02 May 2024 | 01:04:15 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat Passions. Rebecca rages and we manage to bring Laverne and Shirley into the conversation. Print Source Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E16 | 25 Apr 2024 | 00:56:43 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered. What can we say? We really like this episode. | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E15 | 19 Apr 2024 | 00:56:33 | |
Sorry for the late upload. Tori thought she'd already uploaded the episode. oops. Rebecca and Tori discuss Phases. Werewolf lore and toxic masculinity dominate (MD)our chat. One of us likes the episode despite the MD and one of us does not. Who will it be now? Print Reference Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2 E13 & E14 | 11 Apr 2024 | 01:32:16 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about Surprise and Innocence. We ponder what it would be like to kiss a vampire, remark on the scariness of Dru, the a**-holeyness of Bad Angel, and a bunch of other stuff. Print Resources Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published. Pantalon sound clip: https://youtu.be/p23tUjoUL3w?si=MGQadK6Nb9aXaE1Y
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E12 | 04 Apr 2024 | 00:54:59 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about Bad Eggs. We are all over the place in this episode...from the vagina dentata to Poltergeist spoilers. Do we actually discuss the Buffy episode? Yes. We chat about the various characters as aspects of Buffy and how mad we get with Joyce. Print Resource Field, Mark. 2017. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality. Independently published.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E11 | 28 Mar 2024 | 01:02:40 | |
Content Guidance: In this episode we touch on aspects of domestic partner violence. Listen with care. Rebecca and Tori chat about Ted. We spend a fair amount of time discussing the 1950s vibes, including the patriarchal and misogynistic actions of Ted. Rebecca learns about The Captain and Tennille. "No" clip from https://youtu.be/XlJuxpeTats?si=A0xZFM0BItuS8Bvq | |||
| WITS chats Marvel Zombies | S1 E3-4 | 23 Nov 2025 | 00:59:27 | |
Rebecca and Tori wrap up their chat about Marvel Zombies season 1. We discuss the animation style, character connections, and the intense themes of hope and despair. We love it. Music Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music. The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay Sound Effects Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay Celebratory Music: #Uppbeat (free for Creators!) | Upbeat.io B’Max | Thor Ragnarok | It's my birthday | 23 Jan 2018 | YouTube Sources
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2 E9 & E10 | 21 Mar 2024 | 01:28:04 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat What's My Line parts 1 and 2. We ship Spike and Drusilla, tangent on ice skating, and discuss Buffy's continuing growth arc. We also spend too much time talking about what season we are according to Color Me Beautiful. Shakespeare clip: https://youtu.be/LsESSyMnwmU?si=PYsFkqZG55MI-f88 Print Source Field, Mark. 2013. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Myth, Metaphor & Morality.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E8 | 14 Mar 2024 | 01:10:53 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about The Dark Age. We run the gamut here, chatting about the Etruscans, the movie "To Sir with Love," and Tiffany Lamps. We play a round of 'anywhere but here,' the results of which will surprise none of our regular listeners. We engage in a debate about the book Giles lent Jenny--was it written by Forrester or Forster.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E7 | 07 Mar 2024 | 01:03:45 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about Lie to Me. We tangent as usual covering childhood in the 1970s and 80s, the Jolly Chimp, Elizabeth Bathory, Jason Isaac, and the origin of "don't drink the Kool-Aid." | |||
| WITS chats The Marvels | 04 Mar 2024 | 01:03:26 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat The Marvels. We continually get Kamala's brother's name wrong as we discuss the critics' reaction compared to our own. We also chat about Deadpool, Tom Hiddleston, Chris Evans, Hugh Jackman, Taron Egerton, and Michael Bublé (yes, you read that right). Record Scratch Sound Effect from Pixabay New Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov from Pixabay
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E6 | 29 Feb 2024 | 01:00:35 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat Halloween. Some references to Good Omens may sound odd, but we recorded this back in August 2023 so take those in context. This week we wax nostalgic about Halloweens past, while chatting about Larry Bagby III and, surprise, Shakespeare's "The Tempest." We tangent about 1800s women's rights and smells of the past. | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E5 | 22 Feb 2024 | 00:50:31 | |
Content Guidance: In this episode we touch on aspects of sexual violence. Listen with care. Rebecca and Tori chat about the Reptile Boy. We lament at how Cordy is portrayed in this episode, discuss 1950s social norms, Little Abner, Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida, and Nāgas. As always, we tangent.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E4 | 15 Feb 2024 | 01:00:15 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat Inca Mummy Girl. Tori brings in some archaeological deets. Rebecca decides "Peru Man," played by Gil Birmingham, will simply be referred to as Thomas Rainwater for the entirety of the episode (IYKYK). Yeah, we get into cultural appropriation a bit. Restricted Access Resource Campbell, Roselyn. "Juanita, the Inca Ice Maiden." In Mummies Around the World: An Encyclopedia of Mummies in History, Religion, and Popular Culture, edited by Matt Cardin, 190-193. Santa Barbara, CA: ABC-CLIO, 2015. Gale eBooks (accessed February 14, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX6175800070/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=ac76dd38. Sound Effect from Pixabay | |||
| WITS chats Echo E5 | 14 Feb 2024 | 01:01:17 | |
Rebecca and Tori wrap up their love affair with the Echo series. The series, and especially this episodes, gave us all the feels. We try to make sense of the Marvel schedule and story lines moving forward and We Tangent. Restricted Access Resources Pearce, Edison Doyle. 2021. “Examining the Viability of Native American Stickball as a Comprehensive Indigenous Peace System.” ProQuest Dissertations Publishing. Welch, Natalie M., Jessica Siegele, Zachary T. Smith, and Robin Hardin. 2021. “Making Herstory: Cherokee Women’s Stickball.” Annals of Leisure Research 24 (1). Routledge: 51–71. doi:10.1080/11745398.2019.1652104. https://digitalcommons.linfield.edu/busnfac_pubs/1/
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| WITS chats Echo E3 & E4 | 14 Feb 2024 | 01:13:05 | |
Rebecca and Tori continue to chat about Echo, this time episodes 3 and 4. We cover the history of the Lighthorsemen, discuss the psychology of various things, ponder the nature of Maya's powers and continue our love affair with the series. Restricted Access Resources "Choctaw." In Americas, 3rd ed., 152-157. Vol. 2 of Worldmark Encyclopedia of Cultures and Daily Life. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale, 2017. Gale eBooks (accessed February 6, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX3648200147/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=725a5fe6. Davis, Karl, and Rose Stremlau. "Pitchlynn, Peter (Choctaw, 1806–1881)." In Perdue, Theda, and Michael D. Green, The Columbia Guide to American Indians of the Southeast, 191-192. The Columbia Guides to American Indian History and Culture. New York, NY: Columbia University Press, 2001. Gale eBooks (accessed February 6, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX2537200133/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=03b8a1b0. "Five Civilized Tribes." In Gale Encyclopedia of U.S. Economic History, 2nd ed., edited by Thomas Riggs, 444-445. Vol. 1. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale, 2015. Gale eBooks (accessed February 6, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX3611000320/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=0375dc04. Fixico, Donald L. "The BIA in the Department of the Interior and Grant’s Peace Policy." In Bureau of Indian Affairs, 23-43. Landmarks of the American Mosaic. Santa Barbara, CA: Greenwood, 2012. Gale eBooks (accessed February 6, 2024). https://link-gale-com.offcampus.lib.washington.edu/apps/doc/CX2721200012/GVRL?u=wash_main&sid=bookmark-GVRL&xid=250fc8ce.
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| WITS chats Echo E1 & E2 | 14 Feb 2024 | 01:07:36 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat the first two episodes of the Marvel Spotlight show, Echo. We gush, we praise, we applaud (not literally), and rave about the first two episodes. Forgive us if we mispronounce Choctaw words.
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| WITS chats Marvel Zombies | S1 E1-2 | 20 Nov 2025 | 00:56:20 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about Marvel Zombies, season 1, episodes 1 and 2. We mispronounce several names and get on a tangent about Mahershala Ali. We skim the major themes, ponder the various characters, discuss the animation design, and school ourselves on zombie lore. Music Apache Rock Instrumental by Sound Atelier licensed through Jamendo Music. The Epical Trailer: Music by Dmitrii Kolesnikov free on Pixabay Record Scratch: Sound Effect free on Pixabay | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E3 | 08 Feb 2024 | 00:59:04 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat School Hard, a thing they know to be true. We continue to question why Sunnydale High has so many axes available on campus and discuss a couple of our pet peeves. We both are chuffed that Spike has arrived and the annoying one esta muerto. | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E2 | 01 Feb 2024 | 00:54:31 | |
Rebecca and Tori ponder the eternal question, "Why does anyone go into the girls locker room at Sunnydale High?" They also chat about Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, Mel Brook's "Young Frankenstein," "The Walking Dead," and the 80s classic, "Weird Science."
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S2E1 | 25 Jan 2024 | 00:52:44 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat When She Was Bad. This week we chat about an author other than Shakespeare, although that doesn't mean we don't chat about The Bard. We debate Xander's behavior towards Willow and discuss how it is difficult to like Buffy in this episode. | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 1 Retrospective | 18 Jan 2024 | 01:24:35 | |
Rebecca and Tori reflect on Season 1 and bestow some WITS awards for their favorites and bests. We cover the gamut of topics from The Divine Comedy and Shakespeare to "Night of the Comet," the heroines journey, and post-feminist theory. Citations Galati, C. A. (2022). Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter...High School? Dante’s Commedia and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The Journal of Popular Film and Television, 50(2), 80–92. https://doi.org/10.1080/01956051.2022.2057406 Owen, A Susan. 1999. “Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Vampires, Postmodernity, and Postfeminism.” The Journal of Popular Film and Television 27 (2). Washington, D. C: Taylor & Francis Inc: 24–31. Stratton, Jon. 2005. “Buffy the Vampire Slayer: What Being Jewish Has to Do with It.” Television & New Media 6 (2). Thousand Oaks, CA: SAGE Publications: 176–99. doi:10.1177/1527476403255828. Award Music by Denis Maksimov from Pixabay | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E12 | 11 Jan 2024 | 01:01:15 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about The Prophecy Girl. This week in a surprising move (not), we manage to chat about Shakespeare along with near death experiences, Harry Potter, and the Richter scale. We debate whether Buffy's spring fling dress was appropriate for fighting. Blooper sound effect from Orange Free Sounds. | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E11 | 04 Jan 2024 | 01:05:23 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat Out of Sight, Out of Mind. We run the gamut from physics, to "young people band world," Shakespeare, Charles Galloway, and The Beatles. | |||
| WITS Announcement | 28 Dec 2023 | 00:02:04 | |
A short announcement. | |||
| WITS chats It's a Wonderful Life | 25 Dec 2023 | 01:19:20 | |
Content Advisory: This movie portrays a man contemplating suicide, which is a topic of discussion. Listen with care. Rebecca and Tori chat It's a Wonderful Life. If you have any expectations for what a podcast about this movie will be, this will probably subvert those expectations. It also is evidence that we should not drink while recording. Merry Christmas! | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E10 | 21 Dec 2023 | 00:59:09 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat Nightmares. No pithy overview today. Rebecca is traveling and Tori has Holiday COVID. | |||
| WITS chats Miracle on 34th Street | 18 Dec 2023 | 00:59:00 | |
Rebecca and Tori continue their holiday wallow with Miracle on 34th Street (yes the black and white version!). Music Apache Rock (Instrumental) by Soundatelier on http://www.jamnedo.com cc_standard Christmas Tale by Amaksi via Pixabay
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| WITS chats Mocktober | Spinal Tap II | 06 Nov 2025 | 00:54:55 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about Spinal Tap II: The End Continues. We compare it to the original and talk about the scenes and cameos that we liked. We bring in some information from a number of interviews with the cast. WITS chats Mocktober | This Is Spinal Tap Music Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo Sources
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E9 | 14 Dec 2023 | 00:58:27 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat The Puppet Show. We make all sorts of pop culture references, from Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy to Chucky, Dirty Dancing, Deep Space Nine, and SG-1. | |||
| WITS chats Christmas with Holly | 11 Dec 2023 | 01:09:49 | |
Rebecca and Tori continue their holiday wallow with Christmas with Holly. We generalize a lot about parenthood and grand-parenthood. We debate Shelby's motives, nit-pick about the movie's nods to the Pacific Northwest, bemoan Irish dance (sorry), and somehow make a connection to Fiddler on the Roof. Intro/outro music "Christmas Tale" by Amaksi on Pixabay Needle scratch sound effect on Pixabay
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E8 | 07 Dec 2023 | 00:49:36 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat I Robot, You Jane. We make the requisite connection to Tarzan, bring in some research from Judaic literature, and gush about Jenny Calendar. | |||
| WITS chats The Holiday | 04 Dec 2023 | 01:06:30 | |
Rebecca, Tori, and surprise guest chat about The Holiday. We discuss the actors in the main roles, the supporting characters, along with Dustin Hoffman's cameo. Tori and our guest school Rebecca on the holiday rom-com, while Rebecca brings in a fresh, Christmas-movie novice insight.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E7 | 30 Nov 2023 | 00:51:59 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about Angel and somehow are able to bring Carol Burnett into the conversation. | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E6 | 23 Nov 2023 | 00:54:52 | |
Content Guidance: This episode contains discussion of sexual assault and endocannibalism. Listen with care. Rebecca and Tori chat about The Pack. We bid fare thee well to Principal Flutie and Herbert and try to figure out why paralegals are still in high school. We wonder if this is the first time "Scully" is used as a verb and criticize how certain things are portrayed in the episode. | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E5 | 16 Nov 2023 | 00:49:24 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about how to Never Kill a Boy on the First Date. We discuss Owen's contradictory characterization and Rebecca misses finding the iconic quote in the episode. | |||
| WITS chats Loki S2E6 | 13 Nov 2023 | 00:49:28 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about Glorious Purpose. One of us is quite satisfied with the season ending and one of us is not. We discuss the Ground Hog Day aspects of the episode and Loki's character arc throughout the MCU. We even discuss Cinderella before pondering how this all fits into the MCU moving forward.
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| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E4 | 09 Nov 2023 | 00:46:38 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about the Teacher's Pet. We bemoan the loss of Dr. Gregory and the scandalous behavior of Miss French. Joseph Conrad's hero's journey enters the discussion along with a couple of more female-friendly approaches. Somehow we once again figure out how to bring in Mortal Kombat. | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E3 | 02 Nov 2023 | 00:43:18 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about magic, vocabulary, and creepy dolls in this episode of Wallowing in the Shallows. Rebecca throws out a great hypothesis about Amy's dad and we both wonder about the availability of an axe in the high school. | |||
| WITS chats Mocktober | What We Do in the Shadows | 30 Oct 2025 | 01:04:34 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about the mockumentary, "What We Do in the Shadows." We discuss the origins of the movie, chose a word to describe each of the main characters, vampire tropes, and production style. Throughout the podcast we talk about what we loved about the production style and revel in the mundanity. Music Apache Rock Instrumental | by Sound Atelier; licensed from Jamendo Sound Effects Flight of the Conchords clip: Kenneth Lloyd | Flight of the Conchords - The Most Beautiful Girl (in the Room) | Jan 30, 2011 | YouTube Sources
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| WITS chats Loki S2 E4 | 30 Oct 2023 | 01:01:30 | |
Rebecca and Tori chat about the Heart of the TVA. We discuss various hypotheses we've heard, sing a little Aretha, and try to describe space ragtime music. Tori apologizes to Warren at CosmicWonder for calling him Wayne throughout this episode. Can we blame lack of coffee for the faux pas? | |||
| WITS chats Buffy the Vampire Slayer S1E1 & E2 Rewatch | 26 Oct 2023 | 00:54:11 | |
Rebecca and Tori start their venture into the Buffyverse. While we have both watched the series before, Rebecca has only watched it once a long time ago. In this episode, we chat about Buffy episodes 1 and 2. We discuss an ensemble learning their characters, female empowerment, and how getting chased by vampires can create strong bonds in a relatively short period of time. | |||
| WITS chats Loki S2E3 | 23 Oct 2023 | 01:07:46 | |
Rebecca and Tori explore 1893 as the Loki episode spurs them to do a wee bit of research into history. We discuss various hypotheses we've heard and throw out a few of our own. We propose a new shot game--every time OB says "we're all going to die," you drink a shot. Rebecca explains thermodynamics for dummies (Tori) and Tori spouts a bit of Carl Sandburg. | |||