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154: Navigating Burnout in Ministry. Guest: Matt Alexander, Kineo Center17 Feb 202600:59:54

In this conversation, Amy Fritz and Matt Alexander discuss the mission of the Kineo Center, which provides resources and support for pastors experiencing burnout. They explore the complexities of burnout, including its causes and the importance of preventative care. Matt shares personal experiences with burnout and highlights the significance of community support and healthy leadership in ministry. The discussion also touches on the need for sabbaticals and the journey of renewal for pastors, emphasizing the importance of self-care and discernment in leadership roles.

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 Some topics covered:

Introduction to Kineo Center and Its Mission Personal Experiences with Burnout in Ministry The Spectrum of Burnout and Support Needs Causes of Burnout in Ministry Four Key Components of Burnout The Role of Expectations in Burnout Navigating Vocational Disappointment The Importance of Sabbaticals Loneliness and Relational Injuries in Ministry Supporting Pastors: Practical Strategies Authenticity in Healing and Accountability

Featured Guest

  • Matt Alexander, Director of Kineo Center

 

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153: The Psychology of Deception and Blindness. Guest: Dr. Alan Godwin10 Feb 202601:00:57

In this conversation, Dr. Alan Godwin discusses his book 'Ties That Blind,' exploring the themes of individual and collective deception, cognitive dissonance, and the importance of attachment and identity in relationships. He shares personal experiences and insights from his practice as a psychologist, emphasizing the need for humility and compassion in understanding the complexities of human behavior and belief systems. The discussion also touches on the role of the church in fostering community and justice, and the challenges of navigating relationships with differing beliefs.

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 Topics:

Introduction to Ties That Blind Understanding Blindness in Relationships The Shift from Individual to Collective Deception The Role of Attachment and Identity Navigating Painful Realizations Cognitive Dissonance Explained The Power of Cognitive Dissonance Five Reasonabilities for Healthy Relationships The Church's Role in Community and Justice

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  • Dr. Alan Godwin

 

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144: Why Christians Need History: Lessons from Napoleon, Misleading Historians, and Our Cultural Myths23 Sep 202500:54:24

Chris Staron, host of the Truce podcast joins Amy to talk about the importance of looking at history to make sense of this current moment.

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In this episode we:

  • Talk about the origin story of the Truce podcast and Chris's approach to using history to illuminate today's faith questions.

  • Discuss the power of curiosity and humility in addressing gaps in our knowledge.

  • Reflect on the importance of surrounding ourselves with experts—and being open to their feedback.

  • Examine how historical context can reshape our assumptions about gender roles, especially in the context of "biblical womanhood."

  • Challenge the idea that "this is the worst it's ever been" by exploring history's patterns and precedents.

  • Talk about identifying trustworthy sources—and red flags—in historical writing, including the importance of bibliographies and the dangers of consuming information solely from those who share our theological or political biases.

  • Analyze the work (and controversy) surrounding figures like David Barton and the misinterpretation of America's Christian roots.

  • Highlight the value of reading outside our usual bubbles and expanding our knowledge beyond World War II or familiar American history.

  • Encourage listeners to approach new information, especially history, with a willingness to be challenged and changed.

 

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143: Ramsey Solutions Lawsuit Happenings and a Summer Update15 Jul 202500:14:09

Amy Fritz shares an update on what's happening with the Amos v. Lampo Group and O'Connor v. Lampo Group lawsuits and a brief summer update.

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Resources mentioned

  • Substack Update https://untangledfaith.substack.com/p/finding-my-podcast-rhythm

  • Amos v. Lampo Group filings https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/61614266/amos-v-lampo-group-llc-the/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

  • O'Connor v. Lampo Group filings https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17372107/oconnor-v-the-lampo-group-llc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

You can find more Ramsey Episodes here: https://www.untangledfaithpodcast.com/categories/ramsey-solutions-dave-ramsey/

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142: Recovering From Purity Culture. Guest: Dr. Camden Morgante20 Jun 202500:49:49

Dr. Camden Morgante joins Amy Fritz to talk about all the awful metaphors and false promises of purity culture, and a better way forward. If you grew up reading Josh Harris and Elisabeth Elliot, you're going to love this one!

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141: Healing and Navigating the Pitfalls of the Advocacy Space. Guest: Lori Anne Thompson11 Jun 202500:52:44

Have you been told to (or seen others) push through personal pain and trauma while engaging in advocacy for the health of the Church without being given the tools to manage your (or their) own emotional wellness? Are you often feeling overwhelmed and exhausted?

Meet Lori Anne Thompson: a compassionate survivor, storyteller, and student. Lori Anne is a devoted wife, mother, and enthusiastic cook who loves to share her passion for sustainable rhythms and healing for those who have survived trauma.

This episode was initially shared in April 2023, but with the heartbreaking loss of Jennifer Lyell, I wanted to share it again. You can find more information on Jennifer Lyell here: Died: Jennifer Lyell, SBC Abuse Survivor and Former Lifeway Executive - Christianity Today

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Lori Anne and Amy talk through these topics in this episode of the Untangled Faith podcast:

 

Who is Lori Anne Thompson?

The Three Phases of Recovery

How trauma can't be your whole life

Chronic activation

Finding sustainable ways to give back

Red flags to look for

Becoming what we're against

The power of saying no.

 

Resources:

Victim Impact Statement from Lori Anne Thompson regarding Ravi Zacharias:

 https://loriannethompson.com/2021/02/08/lori-anne-thompson-victim-impact-statement/

https://loriannethompson.com

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/bulletin/cpac-trump-transgenderism-oscars.html

Truth & Repair: How Trauma Survivors Envision Justice by Judith Herman: https://amzn.to/3mxzx0W

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140: Navigating Awkward Church Transitions and Avoiding Accidental Heresy. Guest: Aaron Armstrong04 Jun 202500:59:10

Aaron Armstrong joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to explore the nuances of leaving a beloved church community, navigating the awkwardness of joining a new church, and the motivations and process behind his new book, Faith Simplified: What We Believe and Why We Believe It. The conversation moves from personal stories of faith transitions to honest insight into Christian publishing, endorsements, and what it means to thoughtfully engage with the important theological tenants of the Christian faith.

 

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In this episode we:

  • Hear Aaron's story of leaving a church he loved and the emotional and practical realities of church closure—reflecting on how endings don't always mean failure.

  • Discuss the strange and sometimes awkward season of being new in a church, resisting the urge to jump right in, and learning to simply "be."

  • Delve into the complexities of book endorsements in Christian publishing, including why they matter (or don't), how they're decided, and the landmines authors and publishers face.

  • Talk about how reducing people to social media snippets can distort real-life relationships, and why discernment is important when choosing where to show up and engage.

  • Wrestle with common theological distractions and accidental heresies.

  • Explore Aaron's new book, Faith Simplified: What We Believe and Why We Believe It, including his approach to foundational theology, why he wrote it, and who it's for.

 

Featured Guest

 

Resources mentioned

  • Aaron's web site https://aaronarmstrong.co

  • Faith Simplified https://amzn.to/43PxkzT

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139: Posture Over Position: Transforming How We Engage LGBTQ+ Folks in Our Congregations: Guest Bill Henson, Posture Shift Ministries21 May 202500:59:43

Bill Henson, founder and director of Posture Shift Ministries, joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about cultivating a posture of radical love and hospitality toward LGBTQ+ individuals and families within the church, regardless of theological position.

 

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In this episode we:

  • Explore the difference between a church's theological position and its posture toward LGBTQ+ individuals.

  • Hear why Posture Shift was founded in the midst of the culture wars around LGBTQ+ rights and the church's response.

  • Discuss the importance of practical, missional skill sets for churches to truly love and include LGBTQ+ people, beyond merely good intentions.

  • Address common language pitfalls and the impact of terminology like "lifestyle" on LGBTQ+ individuals seeking belonging in faith communities.

  • Examine the need for clarity and transparency about church beliefs on sexuality—and the harm of ambiguity or "bait and switch" scenarios for LGBTQ+ congregants.

  • Reflect on the dangers of treating LGBTQ+ presence in church as a threat, and instead view it as a missional opportunity.

  • Consider best practices for using names and pronouns, and the principle of "pronoun hospitality," especially in youth ministry and family settings.

  • Learn about practical resources like the "Guiding Families" book and direct care coaching for families navigating these conversations.

Featured Guest

 

Resources mentioned

  • This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

  • About - Posture Shift | postureshift.com

 

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138: Third-Party Investigations and Trauma Informed Practices. In Memory of Pete Singer06 May 202500:53:13

Pete Singer passed away on May 1, 2025.

He is missed by his many family and friends.

 

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Pete Singer, executive director of GRACE, shares about grooming, hidden trauma, being "overly" sensitive to abuse, and the importance of third-party investigations.

"Perpetrators put a lot of effort into being the kind of person who would never do that."

"Being more sensitive may be the product of having more knowledge."

 

Pete Singer is the Executive Director of GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment and an expert on third-party investigations, trauma, and trauma-informed practice.

 

GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment is a nonprofit organization that specializes in safeguarding initiatives to guard against church abuse, sexual abuse in the church.

 

In this episode, you will learn the following:

1. What misconceptions about perpetrators of abuse do people have, and how can we ensure we are more informed?

2. How does trauma-informed practice apply in churches, and why is it important?

3. How can churches protect possible victims and be transparent and trustworthy in their response to allegations of misconduct?

Links:

https://netgrace.org

SAMHSA's Six Principles of Trauma-Informed Care – Post-Secondary Peer Support Training Curriculum (opentextbc.ca)

137: Life After Financial Peace University Rethinking Dave Ramsey's Baby Steps29 Apr 202500:57:03

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Dan and Summer Watt & Melissa Hogan joined me for episode 39: The Problem with Financial Peace University and Dave Ramsey's Financial Rhetoric.  ⁠ This conversation we had was made possible by the fact that those of us involved in this episode have spent the last several years processing together our experiences with the ups and downs of Financial Peace University and the rhetoric coming from the Ramsey Show.⁠ ⁠ While we all had different levels of understanding and adhering to the plan, each of us have found ourselves with serious questions. Some of these questions started before we broke ties with the organization and some of these realizations came later.⁠ ⁠ We don't claim to be unbiased observers. We all have had very painful and disappointing experiences with Ramsey Solutions, but we don't think that negates the very real questions we raise.⁠

Links:

D.L. Mayfield, The Myth of the American Dream

Dan Watt- Why Write About Lampo?

Dan Watt- Getting a Mortgage with no credit score

American Gospel movie

 

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136: What Happens When You Have Conflicting Information About Someone's Character?23 Apr 202500:06:27

Amy Fritz shares a brief reflection on what it's like to reckon with there being two versions of someone.

What would it cost to believe a person could be kind and generous sometimes and cruel and abusive other times?

Are you allowed to consider that, and what does it mean if you aren't?

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135: Explaining the Johnny Hunt v. Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) Lawsuit. Guest: Melissa J. Hogan15 Apr 202500:51:16

Amy Fritz is joined by Melissa J. Hogan on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss the lawsuit involving Johnny Hunt and the SBC, addressing misconceptions and the importance of the judge's resolution.

 

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In this episode we:

  • Explore the origins and developments of the Johnny Hunt lawsuit against the SBC.

  • Unpack the significance of the Guidepost Report in uncovering abuse within the SBC.

  • Clarify common misconceptions about defamation cases and the impact of public testimony.

  • Reveal the judge's resolution and its implications for survivors and the SBC.

  • Highlight the importance of understanding power dynamics and trauma-informed perspectives in cases of abuse.

Featured Guest

  • Melissa J. Hogan https://melissajhogan.substack.com

 

Resources mentioned

If you liked this episode you'll like these:

83: Dave Ramsey's Legal Nightmare: Time Share Exit Team Class-Action Lawsuit Deep Dive with Melissa Hogan

94: Lawsuit Update: Hypocrisy and Double Standards at Ramsey Solutions 

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152: Old Hymns and Forgotten Pathways to an Authentic Faith. Guest: Andrew Osenga03 Feb 202600:43:40

Musician and author, Andrew Osenga, joins Amy to talk about the forgotten pathways to an authentic faith, his work with developing artists, and the Anchor Hymns project.

 

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In this episode, we talk about

  • Amy meeting Andrew

  • Andrew's work in finding and developing new artists

  • Sara Groves and Joel Hanson, both musicians from Minnesota
  • Which Hymns are timeless and why
  • Faith and doubt as companions
  • Fighting cynicism

Featured Guest

  • Andrew Osenga

 

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134: Pushing Back Against Spiritual Anxiety. Guest: Tiffany Yecke Brooks08 Apr 202500:49:34

Tiffany Yecke Brooks joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss her book Holy Ghosted and searching for a less anxious faith

 

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In this episode, we:

  • Explore the concept of spiritual anxiety as a trauma response and its impact on individuals raised in legalistic religious environments.

  • Discuss the influence of religious teachings and cultural pressures on Gen X and millennials' spiritual experiences.

  • Examine how control and manipulation manifest in religious communities through various rhetorical techniques.

  • Highlight the historical presence of spiritual anxiety among church figures and the recognition of healthier ways to engage with faith.

  • Reflect on the notion of God's will as a relationship rather than a specific path, encouraging a focus on making thoughtful and intentional decisions.

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133: Building Safe Sanctuaries. Guest: Dr. Diane Langberg01 Apr 202500:42:12

Dr. Diane Langberg joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss her insights on abuse within the church and her latest book, "When the Church Harms God's People."

 

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In this episode, we:

  • Explore the evolution of understanding abuse and trauma over the past five decades with Dr. Langberg.

  • Discuss the misconceptions surrounding abuse and domestic violence within Christian communities.

  • Examine the bravery required for victims to speak up and how church leaders should respond to disclosures of abuse.

  • Address the importance of protecting individuals over preserving institutions or marriages.

  • Consider what true repentance looks like for perpetrators and how mercy and love can be extended to them responsibly.

  • Look at the challenges faced by survivors and the need for vigilance and wisdom in church settings.

  • Highlight the essential role of education and training for leaders in recognizing and responding to abuse situations.

 

Featured Guest

  • Dr. Diane Langberg

 

Resources mentioned

  • When The Church Harms God's People https://amzn.to/4lbpqsn

 

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Celebrities For Jesus. Guest: Katelyn Beaty (RERUN)25 Mar 202500:55:06

Katelyn Beaty joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about what Katelyn learned as she was writing her upcoming book, Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits Are Hurting the Church.

  

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In this episode we talk about:

  • How did Katelyn decide who to reach out to for endorsements for a book like this?
  • Proximity as an antidote to implosion.
  • An update on my former pastor who plagiarized most of his sermons and personal stories.
  • Ghostwriting
  • Plagiarism
  • What is the role of the consumer?

Featured Guest

  • Katelyn Beaty https://katelybeaty.com

 

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132: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor. Guest: Caleb Campbell18 Mar 202501:00:53

Caleb Campbell joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss his journey from pastoring to becoming an author, and how to engage lovingly with Christian nationalists.

  

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In this episode we:

  • Explore Caleb Campbell's background and transformation from a neo-Nazi skinhead to a church pastor.

  • Discover the origins and motivations behind Caleb's book on Christian nationalism.

  • Reflect on the challenges pastors face in navigating cultural and political divides, particularly within the past decade.

  • Reframe the approach to Christian nationalism as a mission field rather than an enemy to combat.

  • Consider practical steps for engaging in meaningful, compassionate conversations with those holding nationalist views.

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131: Exploring Women's Historical Roles in Ministry. Guest: Dr. Beth Allison Barr11 Mar 202500:51:59

Dr. Beth Allison Barr joins Amy Fritz to talk about the how women's roles in church ministry have changed throughout history.

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In this episode we:

  • Dive into the origins and unexpected reactions to Barr's previous work, "The Making of Biblical Womanhood."

  • Explore how Barr's experiences as both a historian and pastor's wife influenced her latest work.

  • Unpack the historical context of ordination and the roles women played in early church leadership.

  • Reveal how cultural forces and economics, rather than biblical mandates, have historically dictated views on women's roles.

  • Discuss the Southern Baptist Convention's shifting stance on women's ordination in response to social and cultural changes.

  • Shine a light on current issues within the SBC, including the connection between power dynamics and handling of abuse cases.

 

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  • Dr. Beth Allison Barr https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598817

 

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130: Engaging Cultural Issues Through Faith: A Conversation with Marty Duren04 Mar 202500:56:41

Marty Duren joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to explore the intersections of faith, politics, and societal issues.

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In this episode Amy and Marty:

  • Talk about Marty's journey away from the Moral Majority

  • Discuss the impact of Christian Nationalism and how that's different than patriotism

  • Consider how proximity changes how we understand different issues.
  • Talk about why Marty hates the word "impactful"!

 

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129: Searching For Safety After Abuse and Harm. Guest: Melissa J. Hogan25 Feb 202500:51:43

Melissa J. Hogan joins Amy to talk about a talk she gave at the Restore conference in Feb 2025.

What does it look like to search for safety after abuse?

 

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What we talk about:

  • Finding safe community
  • Establishing stability
  • The cocoon stage
  • Reckoning with imperfect communities
  • The risk of truly living

 

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128: Understanding Conspiracy Theories. Guest: Dr. Karen Swallow Prior11 Feb 202500:46:40

Dr. Karen Swallow Prior joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about conspiracy theories and what it looks like to be responsible consumers of information.

 

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In this episode we talk about

  • What's a conspiracy theory?
  • What's the appeal of conspiracy theories?
  • How literature and media we consume forms our imaginations

 

Featured Guest

  • Dr. Karen Swallow Prior https://karenswallowprior.com

 

Resources mentioned

  • Holy Post Video about conspiracy theories: Why Do We Believe Conspiracy Theories?

  • Dr. Francis Collins on The Bulletin https://www.christianitytoday.com/podcasts/the-bulletin/one-on-one-with-francis-collins

  • I Cheerfully Refuse https://amzn.to/4jIoRFw

  • The Evangelical Imagination https://amzn.to/411X9fG

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127: False Redemption: It's Not A Marriage Issue Guest- Melissa J. Hogan04 Feb 202501:03:30

Attorney and Institutional Response Specialist Melissa J. Hogan joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast for a candid discussion about how communities and leaders should respond when there is a breakdown of trust in a marriage, especially when issues of abuse or infidelity are involved. What happens when we diagnose an abuse issue as a marriage issue?

 

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In this episode we talk about

  • What communities, leaders, and friends should consider when addressing trust breakdowns in marriages.
  • Why the first instinct to restore the marriage might be harmful.
  • Common myths around quick-fixes such as short-term therapies and intensives.
  • Practical steps and resources for leaders.

 

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126: Revisiting Left Behind with Jerry Dugan28 Jan 202500:48:51

How well does the 1995 hit book, Left Behind hold up?

Amy Fritz is joined by author and podcaster, Jerry Dugan to talk about this cult classic.

 

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In this episode we'll cover

  • The origin story of Left Behind

  • Left Behind and end times speculation
  • Who is the anti-Christ?
  • The impact the book had on evangelical Christians in the US
  • Failed end-times predictions 

 

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151: Ramsey Solutions O'Connor Lawsuit Update27 Jan 202600:53:27

Melissa Hogan joins Amy Fritz to give an update on the O'Connor v. Lampo Group lawsuit.

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Featured Guest

Melissa Hogan, (2) Res Ipsa with Melissa J. Hogan | Substack

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125: Meet the "Sharon Says So" of the PCA denomination. Guest: Lynna Sutherland21 Jan 202501:00:00

Lynna Sutherland, whom Amy refers to as the "Sharon McMahon of the PCA" stops by the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about her work in her ministry Advocacy From the Presbyterian Pew

 

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Amy and Lynna talk about

  • What inspired Lynna Sutherland to start Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew
  • Complexity of the PCA
  • How understanding the origin of the PCA helps Lynna in her work
  • Current issues: DASA
  • Advice for men in leadership in the denomination
  • Advice for women

 

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124: 4 Year Anniversary of Going on The Record About Ramsey Solutions14 Jan 202500:27:54

Amy Fritz reflects on the 4 year anniversary of the Religion News Service article Is Dave Ramsey's Company the Best Place to Work? Say No and You're Out.

Heather Fulk joins Amy to talk about going on the record for that article.

 

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In this episode you'll find

  • Origin of the RNS article

  • Heather Fulk shares what it's like to go decide to go on the record.

  • Amy reflects on the Ramsey response and the main RNS article

 

Featured Guest

  • Heather Fulk

 

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123: Year in Review: Favorite Reads, Podcast Moments, and Insights from 202431 Dec 202400:16:12

Amy Fritz reflects on lessons learned in 2024,  favorite books, and what's coming next.

 

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Episode Highlights

  • Most downloaded episode of 2024:

  • The episode where Amy re-recorded her part of the conversation by herself

  • Favorite Books
  • Lessons Learned
  • What's Next!

 

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Holy Spaces of Grief with Natasha Smith24 Dec 202400:43:55

Natasha Smith joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to share her journey through grief, faith, and the power of presence during life's hardest moments.

"Grief starts when you start to let go." – Natasha Smith

 

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In this episode we talk about

  • The emotional rollercoaster of awaiting MRI results and the devastating news Natasha's family received.

  • The ICU waiting room as both a heavy and holy space

  • The honest expression of grief and the complexities of maintaining faith amidst sorrow and disappointment.

  • The importance of a supportive community.
  • Secondary and invisible grief.

  • How accurate theology can shape our understanding of suffering and God's role in it.

 

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Leaving Church and Looking for Christ with Broken to Beloved17 Dec 202400:47:51

This is an episode from the Broken to Beloved podcast with Brian Lee. Brian interviews Scot Mcknight and Tommy Preson Philips about their new book Invisible Jesus: A Book about Leaving the Church and Looking for Christ

Episode Resources and Links
  • The Myth of a Christian Nation by Greg Boyd on Bookshop | Amazon
  • Revelation for the Rest of Us by Scot McKnight & Cody Hatchett on Bookshop | on Amazon
Guest Spotlight 

Scot has been a professor of NT for more than four decades. He is the author of more than 90 books, including the award-winning The Jesus Creed as well as A Church Called TOV.

Tommy Preson Phillips is a pastor at Watermark Church in Tampa, FL. He is also a songwriter and recording artist with his band Preson Phillips. He holds an MA in NT from Northern Seminary. 

Scot: Website | Instagram | Twitter/X | Threads

Tommy: Substack | Instagram | Threads | Preson Phillips band

Get your copy of Invisible Jesus on Amazon | on Bookshop

Links in these show notes are affiliate links that pay a small portion of the purchase price to Brian Lee at Broken to Beloved at no extra cost to you.

The Spiritual Discipline of Curiosity with Lore Wilbert10 Dec 202400:51:27
  • Lore Wilbert joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about her book, "A Curious Faith," and the spiritual discipline of curiosity, revisiting themes of certainty, vulnerability, and the role of questioning within faith communities.

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In this episode, we:

  • Explore the themes and inspirations behind Lore Wilbert's book, "A Curious Faith."

  • Discuss the societal expectation of certainty within faith communities and the richness found in admitting uncertainty

  • Learn about Lore's experiences with using curiosity as a protective mechanism and its impacts on relationships.

  • Reflect on the biblical story of Moses through a chapter from Lori's book, emphasizing the significance of unexpected life challenges.

  • Highlight the need for ethical responsibility in acknowledging sources and giving proper credit, discussing issues of plagiarism in Christian publishing.

  • Address the complexity of accepting both good and bad elements in the world through a Christian perspective.

  • Consider the importance of curiosity as a spiritual discipline and its role in fostering understanding and genuine faith.

Podcast Guest

Resources:

A Curious Faith by Lore Wilbert https://amzn.to/41rzkPg

 

If you liked this episode, check out these:

90: Historical & Cultural Influences on Evangelicalism. Guest: Karen Swallow Prior

51: Celebrities for Jesus. Guest: Katelyn Beaty

 

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122: Revisiting His Needs, Her Needs with Melissa J. Hogan03 Dec 202400:56:46

Listener note: The content in this episode may not be suitable for young children. Also, please be aware that there is discussion of abuse in this episode. Please take care when listening.

Melissa J. Hogan, joins Amy Fritz to revisit the 1986 marriage book His Needs, Needs by Dr. Willard Harley.

Does it hold up? Did it ever hold up?

What happens when a spouse who is struggling in their marriage and hoping for a way to save it picks up this book?

Melissa's substack: Res Ipsa launches on January 3, 2025. - by Melissa J. Hogan

 

If you liked this episode, check out these:

43: What We've Gotten Wrong About Divorce. Guest: Gretchen Baskerville

79: Domestic Violence & Evangelical Churches. Guest: Neil Schori

 

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121: Revisiting The Prayer of Jabez26 Nov 202401:00:01
120: 2024 Election Wrap-Up and What's Next19 Nov 202400:13:53
119: Orphaned Believers: Sara Billups on Church, Culture Wars, and Spiritual Growth12 Nov 202400:46:06

Sara Billups joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss how the focus on end times, culture wars, and consumerism in the evangelical church formed many of us growing up in the 80s and 90s. 

"If I'm being formed by these forces, in what ways am I being formed by Jesus?" – Sara Billups

Stuff we talk about:

Sara's faith and family history.

The Moral Majority

Our desire for a common enemy

Consumerism and prosperity gospel

The importance of community

 

Resources:

Orphaned Believers: https://amzn.to/3ULDoFy

Jesus and John Wayne: https://amzn.to/3ULDoFy

 

If you liked this episode, check out these:

116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

115: What Happens When You Mix Politics and Faith with Kaitlyn Schiess (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

 

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150: Understanding Intimate Partner Betrayal, Guest: Tammy Gustafson20 Jan 202600:53:17

Therapist and author Tammy Gustafson joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about intimate partner betrayal and healing. Whether you are a survivor of betrayal or want to be a good friend to someone who has walked through this, this is an important episode.

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In this episode we talk about

  • Phases of healing
  • Misconceptions of the Bible and revovering from betrayal
  • What "successful" healing looks like

Featured Guest

  • Tammy Gustafson

Resources mentioned

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118: Is There One Right Way for Christians to Vote?05 Nov 202400:33:35

If you seek a deeper understanding of aligning your faith and politics, this episode offers some thought-provoking insights and practical take-aways regarding what it looks like to have your Christian faith inform your vote.

Amy Fritz is joined by her husband, Nathan, and they talk about:

The importance of diverse voices.

Pro-life v. Pro-choice complexities.

Border security and immigration

Voting for a president.

Beyond straight-party voting.

Love God. Love your neighbor

 

Resources:

What About Abortion? Should this one issue determine how Christians vote?

(1) Why the Freedom to Choose Matters to Me - by Lore Wilbert

When Does Life Begin?

(1) Beyond the "Christian" Voter Guide - by Amy Fritz

Home - Women of Welcome

Common Questions - Women of Welcome

 

If you liked this episode, check out these:

116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

115: What Happens When You Mix Politics and Faith with Kaitlyn Schiess (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

 

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117: How Donald Trump Changed How I Thought About Politics and Faith29 Oct 202400:40:10

Amy Fritz is joined by her husband, Nathan Fritz, on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss their chainging relationship with faith and politics, particularly in the context of the 2016 election and its aftermath.

"It's not just that we don't all think the same, and there isn't necessarily a clear biblical rule on every political thing. We might value some of the same things, but not everybody agrees on how to get to that place."– Amy Fritz

In this episode we talk about:

  • What started our process of rethinking the "Christian" approach to politics.

  • Trump Derangement Syndrome.

  • What it means to vote for policies as opposed to a person.

  • The problem with "mean Tweets".

  • Examine government inefficiencies while recognizing its role in providing necessary support.

  • The role of the Church in providing social safety nets.

  • Consider the impact of media and public perception on faith and politics, including concerns about media legitimacy and the term "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS)."

 

Resources:

https://currentpub.com/2016/06/25/james-dobson-on-the-character-of-the-president-of-the-united-states/

https://news.gallup.com/poll/235022/presidential-moral-leadership-less-important-republicans.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

https://thepreamble.com/p/jemar-tisby-advice-for-single-issue

https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/13/politics/barack-obama-religion-christian-misperceptions/index.html

https://ministrywatch.com/health-share-ministries-face-growing-chorus-of-complaints-and-lawsuits

 

If you liked this episode, check out these ones:

116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

115: What Happens When You Mix Politics and Faith with Kaitlyn Schiess (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

 

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116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron22 Oct 202400:54:18

Chris Staron joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss the ties between evangelicalism and the Republican Party and the impact of societal changes on faith and politics.

"No party is going to be 100% a christian party. And if they were, I'd actually be really suspicious of them." – Chris Staron

In this episode we:

  • Talk about the history of how evangelical Christianity became associated with the Republican Party.

  • Discuss the impact of government regulations and civil rights changes on business owners, using historical examples.

  • Explore Ronald Reagan's appeal to evangelical voters and the shift from Jimmy Carter's presidency.

  • Reflect on how race, economics, and societal unrest influenced evangelicals' political affiliations.

Find Chris Staron:

Chris Staron, Author at Truce Podcast

 

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Tune in next week for a heartfelt conversation with Amy's husband about the intersections of politics and faith.

115: What Happens When You Mix Politics and Faith with Kaitlyn Schiess15 Oct 202400:51:47

Katilyn Schiess joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about faith and politics.

Resources:

 

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Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

 

Untangled Faith Is Coming Back!14 Oct 202400:02:46

The Untangled Faith podcast is coming back!

Amy shares what you can expect in this trailer.

 

Boz Tchividjian Discusses NDAs, Abuse in Churches, and Support for Abuse Survivors19 Jun 202401:03:06

Boz Tchividjian, attorney and advocate for abuse survivors joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to answer your questions.

What's his origin story as an attorney?

The origins of GRACE.

Thoughts on the Us v Them messaging from many churches.

NDAs

Who is the Ronan Farrow or Jody Kantor of  #churchtoo reporting?

Who did Billy Graham vote for? (Just kidding. Boz didn't completely clear this one up for us!)

Links:

Sexual Abuse Attorney For Victims | Boz Tchividjian Sexual Abuse Lawyer (bozlawpa.com)

GRACE:

GRACE (netgrace.org)

Diane Langberg at the Caring Well Conference:

Suffering and the Heart of God: How Trauma Destroys and Christ Restores – Diane Langberg on Vimeo

Boz at the Caring Well Conference:

Winter Inside the Church and Hope for Spring – Boz Tchividjian on Vimeo

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113: Self Awareness Isn't Enough. Guest: Chuck DeGroat13 Mar 202400:36:29

Chuck DeGroat returns to the Untangled Faith podcast with host Amy Fritz to explore the transformative work of moving from self-awareness to self-regulation and how our response to shame changes everything.

"I call the work that I do sometimes excavation work, because we're removing rubble. . .There's a lot of rubble that has kept me inwardly oriented and not as merciful or more prone to bitterness than prone to justice as I do my own work. And as I identify these parts of me that are self-protective, and befriend them and bless them and offer peace to them, there is a sense in which we all can live from that deep heart God created us for in love, goodness, faith, gentleness, meekness. . .And so I often say in the work that I do, the greatest asset is that I'm working with image bearers." - Chuck DeGroat

 

In this episode we:

- Address the repercussions of the Calvin University president's resignation and its ripple effect on community leaders.

- Discuss the need for self-awareness in understanding one's actions as incomplete without self-regulation

- Discuss the delicate balance between speaking out on issues and exercising prudence in engagement.

- Unpack the concept of shame, its link to narcissism, and the importance of having strategies to work through it.

- Share personal stories that highlight our relationship with shame in relationship dynamics.

Other Episodes you might enjoy:

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/07/13/46-when-narcissism-comes-to-church-guest-chuck-degroat/

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/08/10/51-celebrities-for-jesus-guest-katelyn-beaty/

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112: Leaving the IFB and Finding the Real Jesus. Guest: Ryan George06 Mar 202400:33:42

Content Note: There is discussion regarding abuse in this episode. Please take care when listening.

Author, Ryan George, joins Amy to share his personal experience of leaving a high-control religious community, and what it was like to realize, while listening to a podcast, that his dad was a serial abuser. He also shares what pulled him out of the IFB world and what that means when it comes to helping others.

 

Buy Ryan's book: Hurt and Healed by the Church: Redemption and Reconstruction After Spiritual Abuse

Episodes you might enjoy:

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/09/27/97-when-mlms-come-to-church-guest-chris-staron/

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/08/16/91-navigating-the-intersection-of-faith-politics-guest-kaitlyn-schiess/

 

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Where you can find me:

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111: How To Know Who to Trust in the Religion World. Guest: Becky Castle Miller28 Feb 202400:48:18

Becky Castle Miller joins Amy to discuss strategies for assessing the character of church leaders, the importance of being informed, and how to navigate the often-discomforting process of learning about and responding to accusations against those in power. 

You'll also get to listen in on some of our personal experiences—the struggle of having to reconcile conflicting information about individuals we once admired and our responsibility to inform others, while remaining sensitive to those at different places of being able to receive that information.

You'll hear about the responsibility individuals have to speak out within their communities and organizations, responsibly handling these issues, and why it's crucial to believe and act upon allegations, even when they first emerge in less formal settings.

Where you can find Becky:

Website: beckycastlemiller.com Substack: beckycastlemiller.substack.com Instagram: @wholeemotion Ravi Zacharias Teen Mania Recovering Grace Chris Rice Mark Driscoll ACNA Sovereign Grace Larry Nassar Northern Seminary John Crist Duggars   Reporters/News Sources to follow: RNS Dee- Wartburg Watch Ministry Watch Roys Report  

 

Episodes you might enjoy:

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/08/03/50-dr-scot-mcknight-and-laura-barringer-share-what-they-have-learned-from-publishing-a-church-called-tov/

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/01/25/67-the-secret-to-being-courageous-guest-kj-ramsey/

 

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110: Navigating Faith and Suffering with Kristen LaValley21 Feb 202400:39:27

 In this thought-provoking episode of Untangled Faith, Amy Fritz sits down with Kristen LaValley to discuss the complex and often misunderstood intersection of faith, prayer, and suffering. Kristen opens up about the emotional journey of navigating her high-risk pregnancy and the pressures of expecting specific outcomes from prayer.

You'll love hearing Kristen's and Amy's conversation (including some personal anecdotes that might surprise you!)

Where you can find Kristen:

Website: https://www.kristenlavalley.com

Substack: https://www.kristenlavalley.substack.com

Instagram: @kristen.lavalley

Kristen's book Even If He Doesn't: https://amzn.to/4gVFImn

(affiliate links used)

Episodes you might enjoy:

https://www.untangledfaithpodcast.com/46-when-narcissism-comes-to-church-guest-chuck-degroat/

https://www.untangledfaithpodcast.com/112-leaving-the-ifb-and-finding-the-real-jesus-guest-ryan-george/

 

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149: Reflecting on 2025 and Looking Forward to 202613 Jan 202600:16:02

Podcast Host, Amy Fritz, reflects on 2025 with lessons learned, articles she's shared, favorite books and musicians, and some things she's thinking about for 2026 

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In this episode we talk about:

  • Working on a memoir
  • Articles from 2025
  • Musicians I love
  • News stories I'm still thinking about

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109: Death of A Dream14 Feb 202400:13:19

In this solo episode of the Untangled Faith podcast, Amy Fritz shares a deeply personal essay about the pain and process of coping with the death of a dream, specifically related to her and her husband's journey with Ramsey Solutions.

"What do you do when you have a dream that dies?" – Amy Fritz

 

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In this episode Amy talks about

  • What it feels like to chase a dream

  • How Jon Acuff's writings and work encouraged them to apply at Ramsey Solutions

  • What it was like call time of death on a dream

 

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108:To Belong or Not: Unpacking the Dilemma of Church Membership07 Feb 202400:38:47

Welcome to Untangled Faith, where we navigate the complex journey of faith and the challenges we face in our spiritual communities. In this episode we're diving deep into the world of church affiliation and the personal implications it carries for believers.

Guests Nathan Fritz, Amanda Turnbull, and Melissa Anne share their comfort (or discomfort) with the idea of church membership as well as some of their backstories that have informed how they approach this topic.

 

To follow more the Amanda and Melissa's story, check it out here: Burning Butterflies (pod.link)

If you enjoyed this episode, you're going to love this one:

96: The Reshaping of the American Church. Guest: Bob Smietana – Untangled Faith Podcast

 

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97: When MLMs Come to Church. Guest: Chris Staron27 Sep 202300:48:31

Have you ever had a long-lost friend reach out to connect with you on social media only to discover they really just wanted to sell you something connected to the Multi Level Marketing business they were a part of?

 

Or maybe you're one of those folks who has been pulled into an MLM and you're drowning.

Or maybe you're worried about a friend who has quit their  J O B to do direct sales and you're concerned that they aren't able to pay their bills.

And what in the world does this have to do with Christianity? I can't wait for you to listen!

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Unlock the harmful impacts of MLMs on Christian communities and their faith practices.

  • Deconstruct the cunning methods and marketing lures of MLMs especially crafted for Christians.

  • Gain insight about the financial risk and losses commonly faced by individuals drawn into MLMs.

  • Probe the link between MLMs and the prosperity gospel belief widely accepted in Christian contexts.

  • Highlight the necessity for cultivated thought and vigilance in fending off MLM scheming.


Say hello to Chris Staron, renowned for being unafraid to tackle controversial topics within the church. He brings his thoughtful and fair approach to this discussion as the host of the Truce podcast. Going from historical Christian issues to present-day conundrums such as MLMs, he engenders a deep understanding of the church's dynamics.

The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:03 - The Influence of MLMs in the Church, 00:06:32 - MLMs as Schemes, 00:08:12 - MLMs Targeting Christians, 00:10:48 - MLMs and Faith, 00:12:44 - The Math of MLMs, 00:13:58 - The Structure of Multilevel Marketing, 00:15:33 - Challenges and Inconveniences of MLM, 00:16:49 - MLM and False Promises, 00:19:16 - Limited Market and Financial Challenges, 00:21:37 - MLM Company Profits and Fees, 00:28:51 - The Problem with Disclosures and Fine Print, 00:29:51 - The Responsibility of Believers in Direct Sales, 00:31:46 - The Prosperity Gospel and Financial Curriculums, 00:36:23 - Tying Christianity to Extra Pursuits, 00:39:57 - Understanding and Admitting MLM Involvement, 00:43:00 - Making Bad Financial Decisions, 00:43:46 - Supporting Friends in Financial Distress, 00:45:13 - Helping Others with Budgeting, 00:46:07 - Where to Find More Information, 00:46:51 - Wrapping Up and Future Conversations,

Resources:

  • Check out the Truce podcast: https://trucepodcast.com

  • Listen to The Dream podcast about MLMs: https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/the-dream


Episodes you might enjoy:

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com//2023/08/16/91-navigating-the-intersection-of-faith-politics-guest-kaitlyn-schiess/

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/09/20/96-the-reshaping-of-the-american-church-guest-bob-smietana/

 

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Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

Producers:

Michele Pjanic

Phil and Susan Perdue

Pam Forsythe

Chelle Taylor

95: Does God Really Want To Break You? Guest: Rebecca Davis13 Sep 202300:39:26

Rebecca Davis joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss the complexities of truth, defamation, and the misuse of scripture in addressing suffering and abuse within the church.

"Truth can never be considered slander, even if it's negative." – Rebecca Davis

 

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In this episode we

  • Explore the difference between truth and accusations of slander

  • Examine the evangelical response to accusations

  • Hear Rebecca's personal journey in handling difficult stories

  • Discuss the concept of "brokenness" in religious teachings and it's damaging implications for abuse survivors
  • Critique the teachings of influential figures on suffering and brokenness, including Nancy Leigh DeMoss Wolgemuth.

 

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