Explore every episode of the podcast Unscripted Moments: A Podcast About Propagandhi

Chris Hannah: 2:15-26:17

Todd Kowalski: 26:17-37:00

Jord Samolesky: 37:00-1:05:00

Todd Kowalski: 1:05:00-1:27:10

Sulynn Hago: 1:27:10-2:29:00

David Guillas: 2:29:00-3:09:48

Todd Kowalski: 3:09:48-3:23:48

Chris Brown: 3:23:48-4:14:23

John Samson Fellows: 4:14:23-4:41:12

Todd Kowalski: 4:41:12-4:56:39

Jord and Todd discuss NoMeansNo: 4:56:4-END

Buy the book: https://pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1505

Jason Lamb is the author of NoMeansNo: From Obscurity to Oblivion

This conversation is with Mat Comtois, the reader for the new audiobook edition of Unscripted Moments. 

More information available here: https://www.earthislandbooks.com/post/an-audiobook-for-any-lazy-or-busy-propagandhi-fans

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Bitter Melody Records is based in North Carolina and has released over 100 releases to date. They are releasing DUD "May Not Go (Unrealized Recordings from 1996)" as a limited vinyl release in collaboration with One Friday Music. 

USA Ordering: https://bittermelodyrecords.bigcartel.com/

Canada Ordering: https://dudband1996.bandcamp.com/album/may-not-go-unrealized-recordings-from-1996

Lisa Gillan is a nature photographer and musician in Ontario, Canada. 

Discussing track 11 on At Peace!

00:00-12:15: Introduction

12:15-16:00: Chiptune cover by Francois in Angers, France

16:00-26:30: Chit Chat

26:30-1:01:00: Scott Unger on the LA Wildfires

1:01:00-1:34:35: Danek on the LA Wildfires

1:34:35-END: Steve and Greg

As a graduate of Berklee College of Music, Ian Legge combines his formal training with his love of punk to create something entirely unique. Ian has performed and recorded with numerous artists, including tony award winner Charlie Rosen & The 8-Bit Big Band, Sum 41, Jenn Fiorentino, Red City Radio, Tim MacMillar (Protest The Hero), Lesibu Grand, And more.

Listen to Arrangements Volume 1 by The Punk Cellist:

https://linktr.ee/thepunkcellist

https://music.apple.com/us/album/arrangements-vol-i/1847127703

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThePunkCellist/videos

Laura Cameron is Director of Programs and Strategy at Climate Action Team Manitoba.

John Samson Fellows is a songwriter and local activist in Winnipeg, Manitoba. 

Nextstop5050.ca

climateactionmb.ca

https://vivatvirtute.bandcamp.com/track/vivat-virtute-presents-50-50-funding

https://www.thebnc.ca/afterschoolleaders

Music video: 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Lhlxkaam23M

https://vimeo.com/1200801886/1535de974a?share=copy&fl=sv&fe=ci

Guiding Lights is track one on At Peace.

Mat Comtois cover: 29:50-35:51

Read "History in an Unfamiliar Key: Propagandhi, Punk Rock, and the Uses of History"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16ACwMfe737HZ2p6XTEsb4Z9mcGmf7tNm/view?usp=sharing

Joseph Bryan Biography from Montana State University:

1. Brief Biography: My initial historical interests were in seventeenth- and eighteenth-century heterodox thought— forms of "atheism," "deism," and "materialism"—and the spaces where philosophy, science ("natural philosophy"), and "sociology" overlapped. In my MA thesis, I analyzed Baron d'Holbach's rhetorical strategies and his reliance on natural philosophy to construct a materialistic interpretation of mankind's physical origins and social development.
   
   From there, I developed a larger interest in perceptions of the human body as the mediator of social experiences. My research builds from questions posed by theories of embodiment and examines the ways in which relationships between humans in society were perceived to be channeled or stymied by corporeal properties. My dissertation explored how eighteenth-century writers employed the language and theories of physiology and medicine to map new foundations for society, especially in the burgeoning field of political economy and the "debate over luxury." Contemporaries used a new "corporeal vocabulary," based largely on sensationalism and theories of the nervous system, to address the growth of commerce and consumption of material goods and point toward both the degenerative and optimistic aspects of both.
   
   Since 2020, I've shifted gears to merge my academic historical interests with a lifetime of devotion to punk rock music. My new project asks when individuals listen to punk rock, what historical messages do they hear? Alongside that central question, I ask how punk lyrics appear when filtered through an historical lens. In what ways do punk musicians use history to sustain economic, environmental, political, racial, religious, social, and sexual critiques? How is the past given shape and meaning by punk lyrics? How visible, so to speak, are the historical elements? Essentially, what purpose does the past serve in punk music? Historical examination is not only central to how we define punk, and how punks define(d) themselves, but punk treatment of the past should be integrated into how we evaluate public consumption of history. They impart meaning to the past and challenge contemporary understandings of the past, present, and future. While punks do not create new knowledge, their music acts as an alternative historical epistemology that tracks alongside professional historians. They treat both the content of the past and the craft of History. I'm hoping to have a completed book manuscript on this topic by the summer of 2026: "Echoes of a Dreadful Past": Making Meaning of the Past through Punk Rock.

These covers are a companion to our Less Talk, More Rock 30th anniversary episode from April 23, 2026. 

Resisting Tyrannical Government: Joe Vickers lives in seasonal rotation. In the summer he is an Alberta grain farmer and when the snow falls he hits the road as a storytelling folk singer. The travelling troubadour has logged countless miles touring across Canada and the USA as the front man for folk punk group, Audio/Rocketry. As a solo artist he has backpacked across Europe with a guitar in tow, playing everywhere from all-night bars to punk squats, travelling by whatever means necessary - from camper van to train or hitchhiking. Over the years, Vickers has shared the stage with traveling artists of a similar mind, such as Trampled by Turtles, Chuck Ragan, The Strumbellas, The Rural Alberta Advantage and Elliot BROOD.

Visit Joe Vickers: https://joevickersmusic.com/music

Refusing to be a Man: Paul Hodgert is a songwriter and audio engineer who owns and operates One Friday Music in Manitoba. His debut LP "Paul is Dead" is available where you get music. 

Visit Paul Hodgert: https://paulhodgert.bandcamp.com/album/paul-is-dead

Mike Koop is a singer/songwriter who has played in such bands as The Bonaduces,
Cheerleader, The Leftists, The Kicker, and Meds. He played guitar and sang in Dud.

https://dudband1996.bandcamp.com/album/may-not-go-unrealized-recordings-from-1996

Pre-order "May Not Go: Unrealized Recordings from 1996" by DUD here:

https://dudband1996.bandcamp.com/album/may-not-go-unrealized-recordings-from-1996

Follow One Friday Music on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onefridaymusic/

Dud was a band from Winnipeg, Manitoba featuring Mike Koop (Guitar/vocals), John Samson Fellows (Bass/backing vocals), and James Ash (Drums). 

1. Apparently I'm a PC Fascist because I care about Both Human and Non-human animals

   1. lead vox: Diego Lopez

   2. music & backup vox: Matt Milkowski

   3. additional vox: Rayshawn Nowlin

    

2. Nailing descartes to the wall/liquid meat is still murder

   1. Karl With a C from Manitoba! His excellent album Songs of Love, Loneliness, and Grief came out in 2025 and if you like Mt. Eerie, The Mountain Goats, etc. you'd love it!

    

3. Less Talk More Rock

   1. Number one Propagandhi Fan Christiian! 

   2. Craig Hancock on the glockenspiel!

    

4. Anchorless

   1. Lisa Gillan 

   2. Janne from One Hidden Frame!

    

5. RIo De San Atlanta Manitoba

   1. Snake Mountain! 

   2. Matt Milkowski

   3. Calm Oddity finger drumming cover! 

    

6. A Public Disservice Announcement/America Rules

   1. Greg and Stu 

   2. Matt Milkowski and Ollie Hobson 

    

7. And We Thought That Nation States Were a Bad Idea

   1. Lisa Gillan 

    

8. I was a pre-teen mccarthyist

   1. Ryan Nash of agassiz!!!!

   2. Better Before

    

9. Resisting tyrannical government

   1. Suburban Detour with the acoustic version!

   2. Girlband 

   3. Tim Browne from Elway!

   4. Matt Milkowski with an electronica version!

    

Gifts

Paul Hodgert (with me on backing vocals!)

1. Janne from One Hidden Frame

2. Andrew Pearson!

1. The only good fascist is a very dead fascist

   1. Elk Lodge!

   2. ONEWORDSOLUTION!

    

2. A people's history of the world

   1. lead vox: Diego Lopez

   2. backup vox: Greg Soden

   3. music: Matt Milkowski

    

3. The state lottery

   1. Chris Fox, Dave Masud, and Robert Sulzmann from Reno Nevada absolutely SLAYED this cover!!!!!!! 

   2. Steven Iarusci! 

    

4. Refusing to be a man

   1. lead vox: Color for Colors (or if you want his name also: Ollie Hobson, but please include Color for coLORS regardless)

   2. backup vox: Matt Milkowski

   3. music: Matt Milkowski

   4. additional vocals by Florian Palucci

    

Less Talk, More Rock was released by Fat Wreck Chords on April 23, 1996! 

Episode cover art by Jon Grubb

TIMESTAMPS

00:00-20:00: Steve and Greg Intro

20:00-59:40: Steve interviews first-time Propagandhi listener Seth Kilian

59:40-1:18:00: We talk about the record and introduce the covers project

1:18:00-END: Covers and banter! (see tracklisting below)

Covers Tracklisting, Credits, and Episode Notes:

1. Apparently I'm a PC Fascist because I care about Both Human and Non-human animals

   1. Two episodes appeared on this song: Sept 25, 2022 with Adam Huff, Matt Milkowski, and Steve Choi from RX Bandits. Adam did a great cover and matt was our guest interviewer of Steve Choi. part two was jan 21, 2023 with Nils Fisher from the great German band Between Bodies. Nils did a great cover!

   2. lead vox: Diego Lopez

   3. music & backup vox: Matt Milkowski

   4. additional vox: Rayshawn Nowlin

2. Nailing descartes to the wall/liquid meat is still murder

   1. One of my favorite episodes we ever recorded: Jan 27, 2021 with Dr. Lauren Corman talking about animal-industrial complex from an environmental sociology professor perspective, and ray harkins from 100 words or less podcast. Super good episode!

   2. Karl With a C from Manitoba! His excellent album Songs of Love, Loneliness, and Grief came out in 2025 and if you like Mt. Eerie, The Mountain Goats, etc. you'd love it!

3. Less Talk More Rock

   1. Episode 58 on August 11, 2021 with Shane Told from Silverstein and Willem from Antillectual. Fun episode!

   2. Number one Propagandhi Fan Christiian! Christian made a guest hosted episode on august 3, 2025! Go listen to his episode after hearing him rock this cover of LTMR!

   3. Craig Hancock from Discord on the glockenspiel!

4. Anchorless

   1. Original episode was on Nov 4, 2020 featuring Lauren Denitzio of the great band Worriers and part 2 appeared on dec 28, 2023 with Pat Dietrich from the bands Handheld and Curbside. He did a great cover. 

   2. Friend from Ontario Lisa Gillan made this cover of Anchorless! Reminds me of Zoey Deschanel found John Samson! 

   3. Janne, friend of the podcast! Devo-style!

5. RIo De San Atlanta Manitoba

   1. Ep 99 was a podcast takeover episode hosted by Dan Forcier and Josh Lindley of Last Believer: A Good Riddance Podcast! I had a blast handing over the chair for an episode, that episode also features fun covers from Jon Grubb of Zero Cost and our friend Paul Hodgert and his kiddo Lew.

   2. Snake Mountain! 

   3. Matt Milkowski

   4. Calm Oddity finger drumming cover! There is a visual version of this at the username "calmoddity" on instagram. It's worth watching and I'll be putting it in our IG stories.

6. A Public Disservice Announcement/America Rules

   1. One of the least downloaded yet AWESOME episodes ever of this podcast appeared on Oct 7 2023. The guest was Ramsey kanaan from AK Press and PM Press and covers from Freakingsnap and Matt Milkowski with Ollie Hobsonrounded out that episode. 

   2. Me and stu, toy drum set!

   3. Matt Milkowski and Ollie Hobson 

7. And We Thought That Nation States Were a Bad Idea

   1. Just check out the deluxe episode on May 23, 2024. It's over 4 hours long, contains every interview we ever did on the song, and the first hour with Chris deutsch is amazing and detailed with every single vocab term painfully parsed in great historical detail. Extremely good. 

   2. Lisa Gillan 

8. I was a pre-teen mccarthyist

   1. This appeared as episode 84 with Dr. Tim Gill, Ryan O'Nan, Robby Lester and covers by the ghostwrite and shepherds and sailors! No cohost on this episode but i did my best!

   2. Ryan Nash of agassiz!!!!

   3. Better Before, Thank you so much James!!!

9. Resisting tyrannical government

   1. We've talked about this song a bunch of times. Keith and I talked about it on Jul 25 2020 as one of our frist episodes, then it arose on your chat with dave zamboni and my convos with Fred Van Schie and Taron Cochrane

   2. Suburban Detour with the acoustic version!

   3. Girlband featuring Scott Robertson, aka propagandhiphd on instagram! Scott wrote his dissertation about propagandhi and here's his band rockin out resisting tyrannical!

   4. Tim Browne from Elway!

   5. Matt Milkowski with an electronica version!

10. Gifts

    1. Episode 35 appeared on jan 13 2021 and Tim Crisp from the as you were podcast about alkaline trio was the guest!

    2. Paul Hodgert (with me on backing vocals!)

    3. Janne is back for another!!!!

    4. Andrew Pearson!

     

11. The only good fascist is a very dead fascist

    1. Ep 20 with sulynn hago as guest appeared sept 30 2020. That interview is in the book!

    2. Elk Lodge!

    3. ONEWORDSOLUTION!

12. A people's history of the world

    1. Ep 31 on Dec 16 2020 with two professors, chris deutsch and heather mayer. Great interview by keith on heather's. Then Tim Gill and Josh Kemble and I talked about that song, both in july 2022. Great chats!

    2. lead vox: Diego Lopez

    3. backup vox: Greg Soden

    4. music: Matt Milkowski

13. The state lottery

    1. Episode 63 with damian Abarham of fucked up, aaron scott of marathon and attica attica and michael sileno of night sweats. Kristian from rad dads and i revisited it on april 29 2023

    2. Chris Fox, Dave Masud, and Robert Sulzman from Reno Nevada absolutely SLAYED this cover!!!!!!! 

    3. Steven Iarusci! 

14. Refusing to be a man

    1. Original episode appeared on jul 7 2021 with josh segal's cover and interviews with zach gehring from mae, our amazing friend mary best, and beave! Great episode. Truly one of the ones i got the most comments on ever, seriously for real.

    2. lead vox: Color for Colors (or if you want his name also: Ollie Hobson, but please include Color for coLORS regardless)

    3. backup vox: Matt Milkowski

    4. music: Matt Milkowski

    5. additional vocals by Florian Palucci

Mitch Pollock is a producer at CBC on Q with Tom Power

Download this cover here: https://soundcloud.com/mitchellblack/mitch-pollock-one-great-city

Christina Johns is VP of Operations at Hopeless Records! 

Intro: 00:00-6:25

Steve's First Listen (March 2025): 6:25-9:37

Paul Hodgert Cover: 13:54-16:40

Todd Kowalski Interview: 18:25-32:45

Randy Frykas Interview: 38:00- 48:00

Greg and Steve: 48:00-END

Artwork: Jon Grubb

Luke Ottenhof is a writer and editor based in Montreal. His work has been published in The Guardian, the Globe and Mail, Pitchfork, Popular Mechanics, and GQ, among others. He is the author of "Lay It Down" about the work of John Samson Fellows. 

Read "Lay It Down" by Luke Ottenhof: https://hazlitt.net/longreads/lay-it-down

Visit Luke Ottenhof online: https://lukeottenhof.persona.co/

Listen to Brickie: https://brickie.bandcamp.com/

Cover photo by Matt Horseman: https://www.matthorseman.com/about

We went to Megadeth, February 28, 2026 in London, Ontario. This is how it went. 

Louis Posen is the founder and president of Hopeless Records and the caretaker of the catalog of Fat Wreck Chords. 

How to Clean Everything reissue: https://fatwreck.com/collections/new/products/propf911bs-lp

Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes reissue: https://fatwreck.com/collections/new/products/propf145rs-lp

Visit Hopeless Records: https://www.hopelessrecords.com/mission

A 2026 catch-up with Todd Kowalski where we reflect on 2025!

David Guillas is a songwriter and guitar builder living in Winnipeg, Manitoba. He makes solo records under the moniker KYLE. 

Find his music here: https://lekyle.bandcamp.com/

Visit Power 97: https://power97.com/

This interview aired October 2025 in the lead-up to the live book release event at Public Domain in Winnipeg. 

Happy New Year

Side A: Steven and Nils

Side B: Agnostic Jeremiad

Both covers appear in episode 134. 

Introduction: 00:00-11:48

Steven and Nils cover: 11:50-16:05

Agnostic Jeremiad cover: 16:05-19:18

Chatter and Listener voicemails: 19:18-1:17:30

Mark Michell "Low End University": 1:17:45-1:35:10

Siegbert Freiberg segment:  1:35:10- 1:49:30

1:49:30-END: Greg and Steve song chat

Ending live clips from Propagandhi include 2013 in Paris and 2014 in Baltimore. 

Sulynn Hago's brand new record "Faith in the Doghouse" is out NOW!

Buy Faith in the Doghouse on vinyl or digitally: https://sulynnhago.bandcamp.com/album/faith-in-the-doghouse

Visit Sulynn Hago online: https://www.sulynnhago.com/

More music from the podcast

Mutual friend

dear coach's corner

middle finger response

ego fum papa

anti-manifesto

megan

refusing to be a man

ego fum papa

without love

this is your life

"the prairies of manitoba"

a speculative fiction

incalculable effects

hidden curriculum

support gun control kill a hunter

pigs will pay

00:00-22:00: Introduction

22:00-29:19: Dayglo Abortions 1988 obscenity lawsuit news coverage

31:00-1:01:45: Bill Sassenberger (Toxic Shock Records) interview

1:01:45-END: the rest of the nonsense

more music from the podcast. hooray. thanks.

happy halloween!

dear coach's corner

fixed frequencies

stick the fucking flag up your goddamn ass, you sonofabitch

todays empires, tomorows ashes

aventures en zoochosis

note to self

and we thought that nation states were a bad idea

fine day

humane meat

rio san atlanta manitoba

tartuffe

lower order

devils creek

iteration

adventures in zoochosis

rented pa

cat guy

stargazing

head chest or foot

i was a pre-teen mccarthyist

victory lap

support gun control kill a hunter

anti manifesto

mutual friend

Cover songs. See episodes for crediting information. 

Emily Sando is a Buffalo-based photographer and videographer. 

Visit Emily Sando online: https://www.emilysando.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emily_sando_films/?hl=en

Last Victory Lap episode!

Covers by FREAKINGSNAP. 

Something Needs To Die But Maybe It's Not You is track 13 on 2025's At Peace LP. 
If you or a loved one are having suicidal thoughts, please visit: https://www.iasp.info/suicidalthoughts/ for information on how to find help. 

Jamila returns with another "AT PEACE" guesthosted episode about RENTED PA!

Jamila's Cat Guy episode: https://unscriptedmoments.libsyn.com/cat-guy-by-jamilah-music-and-we-and-this-podcast-strikes-first

Jamila's Music and We podcast: https://musicandwe.podbean.com/

Jamila's This Podcast Strikes First: https://thispodcaststrikesfirst.podbean.com/

Chris Brown plays clavinet and hammond organ on Potemkin City Limits!

Chris's music: https://wolfeislandrecords.com/hughchristopherbrown/

Chris's record label Wolfe Island Records: https://wolfeislandrecords.com/

Pros and Cons Program: https://prosandconsprogram.com/podcast/

Thank you to all who attended the book release party! Special thanks to Justin Santora, Dan, Clint, and Blair for humoring Steve!

On this episode, Aaron Carnes (Author of "In Defense of Ska")  interviews Greg Soden about the writing and lessons derived from "Unscripted Moments: Conversations with Propagandhi (2020-2025)." 

If you want more of Aaron's excellent work, including hundreds of ad-free episodes of In Defense of Ska, please visit the links below:

https://aaroncarnes.substack.com/archive

https://www.patreon.com/c/indefenseofska/home

Cognitive Suicide is track 7 on Failed States.

Cover by FreakingSnap.

Listen to FreakingSnap's full Propagandhi covers album here: https://freakingsnap.bandcamp.com/album/rerecovered-for-unscripted-moments

Guitar: Dylan

Vocals: mat, greg, matt, drew, paul

Mixed by Matt

Mastered by Paul

Mate Ka Moris Ukun Rasik An is track 1 on Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes.

Time Stamps:

00:00-2:38: Introduction

2:38-5:17: Mat Comtois cover

5:17-1:54:54: Episode 30 

1:54:54-2:54:52: Jeff Lareau

2:54:52-END: Without Love

A previously-Patreon-exclusive episode from "In Defense of Ska." Originally released July 2022. 

Featuring Aaron Carnes, Adam Davis, David Anthony, Cheska Colombo, and Greg Soden

Graziele and Steven discuss the 2025 Reconstruction Europe Tour!

ENJOY!

Jamilah hosts Music and We and This Podcast Strikes First!

https://thispodcaststrikesfirst.podbean.com/

https://musicandwe.podbean.com/

We talked about the book project a bit. 

Comp: https://www.engineerrecords.com/product-page/various-artists-propagandhi-tribute-how-to-take-double-cd

Book: https://www.earthislandbooks.com/product-page/unscripted-moments-conversations-with-propagandhi-2020-2025-by-greg-soden

Book/Comp: https://www.earthislandbooks.com/product-page/unscripted-moments-propagandhi-book-and-double-cd-package

McNally Robinson: https://www.mcnallyrobinson.com/9781916864696/greg-soden/unscripted-moments?blnBKM=1

Bookshop.org: https://bookshop.org/p/books/unscripted-moments-conversations-with-propagandhi-2020-2025-greg-soden/22724151?ean=9781916864696&next=t&next=t

Kurt Morris is a social worker, writer at Razorcake, maker of zines, and Propagandhi superfan from the northeastern USA. 

George Stroumboulopoulos. The Prime Mixister. Writer. Director. Producer. Wolf. Broadcasting Worldwide on Apple Music & YouTube.