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| A Marine Biologist, a Kuku Yalanji Guide, and the Real Story Behind Two UNESCO Sites in North Queensland | 16 oct. 2026 | 00:30:42 | |
In a new ongoing series, Afar is asking a deceptively simple question: What does a UNESCO World Heritage designation actually do? This episode starts in North Queensland, Australia, home to two UNESCO sites that sit side by side: the Great Barrier Reef and the Wet Tropics, which includes the Daintree Rainforest.
First, host Aislyn Greene talks with Dr. Eric Fisher, a marine biologist and Biology Manager at GBR Biology, about why Great Barrier Reef snorkeling remains the most direct way to connect with a reef system that’s home to more than 600 kinds of coral, six of the world’s seven sea turtle species, and more than 1,500 species of fish.
Fisher explains how a 1960s-70s campaign to stop oil mining on the reef led to the 1975 Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Act and, eventually, the reef’s 1981 UNESCO inscription—and why the reef has spent over a decade at the center of debate over whether it should be listed as “endangered” due to climate change, coral bleaching, and crown-of-thorns starfish outbreaks.
Fisher also opens up about building GBR Biology, the team of marine biologists and First Nations culture guides who lead guided Great Barrier Reef snorkeling tours for the tourism company Experience Co. (which also owns Reef Magic), and why he believes every traveler should experience the reef in person—ideally more than once, since it changes by the tide, the season, and even the hour.
Then the episode heads inland to the Daintree Rainforest, inscribed as a UNESCO World Heritage site in 1988 as part of the Wet Tropics of Queensland.
Juan Walker, owner and head guide of Walkabout Cultural Adventures, discusses growing up on Kuku Yalanji country, teaching Kuku Yalanji language in local schools, and what the Queensland government’s 2021 handback of more than 160,000 hectares to the Eastern Kuku Yalanji people has—and hasn’t—meant for his community’s access to traditional land.
THIS WEEK’S GUESTS
Dr. Eric Fisher is Biology Manager at GBR Biology, a division of Experience Co. that leads guided Great Barrier Reef snorkeling tours out of Cairns and Port Douglas. A fish ecologist by training, Fisher built GBR Biology’s team of marine biologists and First Nations culture guides after years leading snorkel programs for Reef Magic.
Juan Walker is the owner and head guide of Walkabout Cultural Adventures, which he founded in 2008. Born in Mossman, Queensland, Walker is Kuku Yalanji on his father’s side and Torres Strait Islander on his mother’s side, and teaches Kuku Yalanji language at a local school.
CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Welcome to the Great Barrier Reef
00:03:15 Oil Plans and World Heritage
00:05:45 Endangered or Not?
00:09:05 Guided Snorkel Tours With Eric
00:15:55 Daintree on Kuku Yalanji Country
00:20:40 Is It Really Land Back?
LINKS & RESOURCES
Explore Afar's coverage of North Queensland
Meet the Indigenous Women Who Are Saving Australia’s Great Barrier Reef
Podcast: Riding Higher, Down Under
The Great Barrier Reef’s Great Big Complicated Story
Fewer Travelers Visit This Part of the Great Barrier Reef. They’re Missing Out.
Travel with Juan and Eric
GBR Biology—guided Great Barrier Reef snorkeling and reef conservation tours led by Dr. Eric Fisher’s team
Walkabout Cultural Adventures—Juan Walker’s Kuku Yalanji cultural tours in the Daintree
Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority—background on reef management and conservation
UNESCO World Heritage List: Great Barrier Reef
UNESCO World Heritage List: Wet Tropics of Queensland
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| Dubai Hospitality and the Making of a World-Class Hotel Scene | 14 oct. 2026 | 00:26:33 | |
Welcome to episode two of a four-part Unpacked series on Dubai travel, this time focused on Dubai hospitality: how a city with more than 800 hotels and 150,000 rooms built a world-class hotel scene on one of the Arabian Peninsula’s oldest traditions: the welcome.
Guest host Nicola Chilton starts in the desert with Philippe Zuber, CEO of Kerzner International, who oversees eight Dubai hotels, including two Atlantis resorts and three One&Only resorts. Zuber shares his “secret spot” for first-time visitors, the calm kind of desert rather than dune bashing, and explains how the mix of desert, skyline, and sea shapes the travel experiences he recommends. He also talks about the role hotels play in the city’s social life and what it’s like to work alongside colleagues from 200 nationalities.
Then Nicola sits down with Mohammed Kazim, a Dubai-born cultural entrepreneur, who traces Dubai hospitality culture back to Al Wasl, the “connecting point” where trade routes met, and to a three-day welcome code that obliged hosts to shelter and feed any guest without asking questions. It’s why Arabic coffee and dates are still the first thing you’re offered, and why standards at Dubai’s hotels run so high, plus his travel tips for first-time visitors.
Two more episodes, on food and culture, are coming next, and every episode is filmed in the same Dubai studio, so you can watch as well as listen on YouTube. (Listen to the first episode here.)
This week's guests
Philippe Zuber is CEO of Kerzner International, which operates eight hotels in Dubai—including two Atlantis resorts and three One&Only properties—plus 23 more worldwide and 12 in development.
Mohammed Kazim is a Dubai-born cultural entrepreneur and co-founder of Tamashee, a brand reviving traditional Arabian Peninsula sandals through contemporary design, and of Tamashee Experience, a cultural travel business that takes visitors to tribal communities across the region.
Plan your own Dubai trip
First, begin with these essential Afar resources, including the best hotels to book (and why hotels are so much more than a place to stay), a guide to the evolving food scene, and how to spend four days in Dubai, according to locals.
Where to stay, what to do, and what to eat from this episode
Atlantis The Royal—Kerzner's ocean-themed integrated resort, home to a culinary lineup that includes Carbone, Milos, and a breakfast spot ranked among the world's best.
One&Only One Za'abeel—Kerzner's newest urban resort, paired with CYRO, its wellness and longevity concept, for sweeping views of Burj Khalifa.
Bab Al Shams—one of Dubai's oldest desert resorts, about an hour from the city, where visitors are welcomed with Arabic coffee and can try camel rides, horseback riding, and a divine hammam.
Burj Khalifa—the world's tallest building, best experienced in person according to Zuber: "You come to Dubai for that."
The Palm Jumeirah—the world's first handmade island, best viewed from Nobu at Atlantis, The Palm.
Satwa—a lived-in, unpolished neighborhood just behind Downtown Dubai where Zuber says you'll find the "real energy" of the city's 200 nationalities living and working side by side.
Arabic coffee and dates—the traditional greeting rooted in the Arabian Peninsula's hospitality code, served from a dallah, the long-spouted coffee pot pictured on the one-dirham coin.
Tamashee—Mohammed Kazim's brand of contemporary Arabian Peninsula sandals, and Tamashee Experience, his tribal-immersion travel business.
Dubai Creek—where, according to Kazim, the roots of Dubai hospitality culture and the city's modern diversity first took shape.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Dubai Hospitality
00:02:00 Desert, Skyline, and Sea
00:09:00 Al Wasl's Three-Day Code
00:14:30 Coffee, Dates, and the Dallah
00:17:00 How Hotels Raised the Bar
00:19:00 Tamashee and the Creek
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| Dubai Travel Tips From a Longtime Resident and a Native Emirati Chef | 29 sept. 2026 | 00:29:18 | |
Welcome to episode one of a four-part Unpacked series on Dubai travel: the history, the ambition, and the glamorous, multicultural city it's become today.
In this episode, host Aislyn Greene and the Dubai-based travel writer Nicola Chilton set the stage: They walk through how a fishing village and pearling outpost became one of the fastest-changing cities on Earth—and what it's actually like on the ground today.
Halfway through, Aislyn hands the mic to Nicola—who will host the remaining three episodes—for a conversation with her longtime friend, Sahar Parham Al Awadhi, an Emirati chef born and raised in Dubai.
They take a deeper dive into the city's history along Dubai Creek: the abra boats, the spice trade, and the neighborhoods where "old Dubai" is still very present.
Together, they set up the rest of this Dubai series: three more episodes on the city's architecture, food, and culture, all filmed in the same studio, so you can watch as well as listen on YouTube.
This week's guests
Nicola Chilton is a UK-born travel writer who has lived in Dubai for more than a decade and will be hosting the rest of this series.
Sahar Parham Al Awadhi is an Emirati chef, the first Emirati chef at the Jumeirah Burj Al Arab, and the founder of Abra, a new restaurant inside Dubai’s Etihad Museum.
Plan your own Dubai trip
First, begin with these essential Afar resources, including the best hotels to book (and why hotels are so much more than a place to stay), a guide to the evolving food scene, and how to spend four days in Dubai, according to locals.
Where to stay, what to do, and what to eat from this episode
Jumeirah Beach — base yourself here for easy access to Dubai’s best hotels, restaurants, and free public beaches.
Jumeirah Marsa Al Arab — opened just over a year ago, directly across from the iconic Burj Al Arab.
Al Maha, a Luxury Collection Desert Resort — about an hour from the coast, inside the Dubai Desert Conservation Reserve, where gazelles and Arabian oryx wander past your private plunge pool.
Dubai Creek — hop an abra, the little wooden boats that cross between Bur Dubai and Deira, for about 30 cents.
Al Fahidi historical neighborhood and Al Shindagha Museum — Bur Dubai’s restored old neighborhoods, now galleries, cafés, and museum houses.
Karak tea — Dubai’s ubiquitous, inexpensive spiced milk tea, best bought roadside from a canteen window.
Abra — Sahar Parham Al Awadhi’s new restaurant inside the Etihad Museum, built around “new Emirati cuisine.”
XVA Hotel — a boutique stay inside a heritage house near Dubai Creek, with its own gallery and café.
Arabian Boutique Hotel — another heritage-building stay near the water, home to Arabian Fish House.
One&Only One Za’abeel — for skyline views from one of Dubai’s newest towers.
Hatta — a mountainous exclave about 90 minutes from the city, popular with residents for hiking, mountain biking, and kayaking.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Dubai
00:03:00 From Bangkok to Eleven Years In
00:06:00 After the Spring Unrest
00:08:00 Beaches, Desert Camps, and Mountains
00:14:00 Enter Sahar Parham Al Awadhi
00:19:00 Reviving Emirati Cuisine
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| The Australia Spa Road Trip That Won Over a Wellness Skeptic | 23 sept. 2026 | 00:26:31 | |
Afar contributing writer Emma John road-trips the Great Victorian Bathing Trail, uncovering the best spa towns in Victoria, Australia—from thermal springs on the coast to century-old bathhouses inland.
A traditional spa vacation was never Emma John's thing—she needs to be on the move to relax. So when she set out to explore Victoria Australia spas along the newly opened Great Victorian Bathing Trail, she brought her road trip instincts with her: 250 miles of driving, looping from Melbourne down to the Mornington Peninsula, across Port Phillip Bay by ferry, and back up through the best spa towns in Victoria, Australia—Hepburn Springs and Daylesford.
On this episode of Unpacked, host Katherine LaGrave talks with Emma about what she learned when a self-described spa skeptic spent a week soaking, swimming, and drinking mineral water across the state with Australia's highest concentration of natural springs.
THIS WEEK'S GUEST
Emma John is a contributing writer to Afar based in London. For her story on the Great Victorian Bathing Trail, she looped through Victoria's most notable bathing destinations—geothermal spas, sea pools, mineral springs, and lakes—timing her trip around a six-week cricket series between Australia and England. What began as a well-earned reward after weeks of demanding sports coverage turned into a deeper reckoning with what wellness travel actually means.
IN THIS EPISODE
Why Victoria, Australia, has the country's highest concentration of natural mineral springs, and how the Great Victorian Bathing Trail links geothermal spas, sea pools, and lakes across the state
Alba Thermal Springs & Spa on the Mornington Peninsula, where automatic doors and unfamiliar bathing etiquette left Emma completely disoriented—and how she started letting go of the need to get it "right"
Hepburn Springs and Daylesford, the twin towns at the heart of Victoria's spa country, home to 80 percent of Australia's mineral water and the 1895 Hepburn Bathhouse & Spa—Australia's oldest
Drinking straight from the source: the sulfurous Soda, Locarno, and Sulphur Springs pumps scattered through Hepburn's town park, and why locals still fill their bottles there every week
A 45-minute private mineral bath that changed Emma's mind about "forced relaxation"—and the moment she realized her real obstacle wasn't the spa, but her own instinct to rush
The layered history beneath the trail: a walk with guide Rob Hyatt of the Koorie Heritage Trust, who explains how the Yarra River's true name is Birrarung, and how Lake Daylesford's creation displaced the Dja Dja Wurrung people from land and water they'd relied on for generations
Why Emma's top recommendation for skeptics isn't a spa at all: the Searoad Ferry between the Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas, where a pod of wild dolphins showed up uninvited
Dinner at Kadota, a Japanese restaurant in Daylesford run by chef Aaron Schembri and his wife Risa Kadota, plus an unplanned stop in the town of Trentham that Emma's still thinking about
CHAPTER MARKERS
00:00:00 Introduction: A Road Trip Built Around Water
00:04:00 Hepburn Springs: Australia's Oldest Bathhouse
00:08:00 The freedom of road trips and letting go
00:10:30 The history of these Australian waters
00:17:00 The Searoad Ferry and an Unexpected Pod of Dolphins
00:19:00 Drinking the Springs in Hepburn's Town Park
00:22:00 Kadota, Daylesford, and an Unplanned Stop in Trentham
00:23:30 How Emma's Idea of Wellness Changed
LINKS & RESOURCES
Emma John's Afar story: An Australian Road Trip Built Around Swimming, Soaking, and Sauna
Alba Thermal Springs & Spa
Hepburn Bathhouse & Spa
Lon Retreat & Spa
Koorie Heritage Trust
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| How to See Thailand’s Wonders Without Feeling Like a Tourist | 10 sept. 2026 | 00:36:42 | |
Travel journalist Kathryn Romeyn shares how to find Thailand off the beaten path—from Nan Province night markets to Khao Sok's rainforest—plus the best time to visit Thailand if you want fewer crowds and lower prices.
This week on Unpacked, host Aislyn Greene explores Thailand off the beaten path with journalist Kathryn Romeyn, who's covered Southeast Asia since 2014 and calls Bali, Indonesia home. Kathryn returned to Thailand again and again since her first real trip in 2018, and wrote Afar's guide to seeing the country differently.
In this episode, part of Unpacked's Off the Tourist Trail series, she and Aislyn dig into Bangkok's overlooked neighborhoods, the north's least-visited provinces, and—critically—the best time to visit Thailand if you want to skip both the crowds and the price surge of high season.
THIS WEEK'S GUEST
Kathryn Romeyn is a Bali-based travel journalist who has covered Southeast Asia since 2014. After spending years visiting nearly every other country in the region—Myanmar, Cambodia, Malaysia, Vietnam—she finally gave Thailand a real chance starting in 2018, and has been chasing its lesser-known corners ever since.
IN THIS EPISODE
Why finding Thailand off the beaten path means letting go of five-star expectations—and how a $50-a-night, family-run guesthouse can outshine a luxury resort
The best time to visit Thailand: why the shoulder seasons (roughly March–July and October–November) beat the crowded, expensive December–January peak, and why to avoid the hot, rainy August–September stretch
Inside Nan Province, in Thailand's mountainous north near Laos—road-tripping through opium-turned-coffee country, staying in teak bungalows, and meeting a local guide from the Karen community
Local flavors worth seeking out: sai oua northern-style sausage, chicken wings crusted in makhwaen (a wild jungle pepper related to Sichuan pepper), and the tamarind crunchy shrimp at Thanyamundra that Kathryn can't stop thinking about
A nightly ritual in Nan: communal floor dinners at bamboo khantoke tables between two illuminated temples, complete with live folk music and unmatched trash-sorting discipline
Why Koh Yao Noi—a small island with one gas station and one doctor—offers an escape from the group-boat crowds hitting Phuket's more famous islands
Skipping the standard Phuket–Krabi–Chiang Mai loop for Khaosok National Park where limestone karsts rise out of Cheow Lan Lake and langurs swing through the jungle canopy
Why hiring a private guide or outfitter (like Smiling Albino or Red Savannah)—rather than a big-group tour—unlocks the kind of moments you can't find with an internet search
CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Rethinking Thailand's Reputation
00:02:00 A Freelancer's First Real Trip
00:07:00 Getting Lost in Bangkok on Purpose
00:11:00 Island Escapes and the Road to Nan
00:16:00 Guesthouses Over Five-Star Hotels
00:21:00 Night Markets and Local Food Secrets
LINKS & RESOURCES
Kathryn Romeyn's AFAR story: How to See Thailand's Wonders Without Feeling Like a Tourist
Thanyamundra Organic Resort
Nan Seasons Boutique Resort
Cape Kudu Hotel
Koh Yao Noi
Smiling Albino
Red Savannah
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| Sana Javeri Kadri's Regenerative Spice Farming Revolution | 04 sept. 2026 | 00:40:12 | |
The spices in your cabinet are probably five to seven years old—and that's not an accident.
On this episode of Unpacked, host Aislyn Greene sits down with Sana Javeri Kadri, founder of Diaspora Spice Co., who spent nine years dismantling a 500-year-old system and replacing it with something radically different: direct relationships with regenerative spice farming partners across India and Sri Lanka. What starts as a question about how old the spices in your cabinet really are unfolds into a conversation about colonialism, cultural erasure, and what it actually takes to trace a turmeric root back to the family who grew it.
THIS WEEK'S GUEST
Sana Javeri Kadri founded Diaspora Spice Co. in 2017 at age 23, after discovering that the global spice trade—largely unchanged since European colonization took hold roughly 500 years ago—left farmers earning almost nothing while spices sat in warehouses for five to seven years before reaching store shelves.
Sana built the company around regenerative spice farming partnerships, working directly with 140 farmers across India and Sri Lanka to source turmeric, cardamom, cinnamon, black pepper, and more, paying farm partners an average of 4x commodity price. Sana splits time between Mumbai and the Bay Area and is the author of The Diaspora Spice Co. Cookbook, a book five years in the making and built entirely around the farm families behind the spices.
IN THIS EPISODE
How Sana Javeri Kadri traced the spice trade's roots back 4,000 years—and how colonization, not commerce, is what broke it roughly 500 years ago
Why regenerative spice farming partnerships let Diaspora Spice Co. pay farmers well above commodity price, and what that income jump has meant for farming families year over year
The 14-month search for pesticide-free cardamom, and what it actually takes to find a handful of true regenerative spice farming partners out of dozens of samples collected
Inside Eko Land's cinnamon and clove processing facility in Kandy, Sri Lanka, where quality control means tasting bark from individual trees—and why true cinnamon (Cinnamomum verum) is almost impossible to find in the US
What 9 years of relationship-building with Pragati Turmeric farm partner Prabhu Kasereni has looked like, from a 23-year-old showing up unannounced to writing a cookbook credited entirely to the farmers themselves
CHAPTERS
00:00:00 The Age of Your Spice Cabinet
00:03:00 The 500-Year-Old Trade Problem
00:10:00 Building Diaspora and Regenerative Farming
00:18:00 The Search for Cardamom and Pepper
00:26:00 Pragati Turmeric in Andhra Pradesh
00:34:00 Cinnamon and Cloves in Kandy
00:42:00 Nine Years, One Family's Story
00:48:00 The Cookbook and What Comes Next
INKS & RESOURCES
Diaspora Co.
The Diaspora Spice Co. Cookbook
Pragati Turmeric
Guntur Sannam Chilli
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| For a Crowd-Free African Safari, Head for Tanzania's Southern Circuit | 01 sept. 2026 | 00:37:06 | |
An African safari doesn't have to mean a traffic jam. On this episode of Unpacked, host Aislyn Greene travels to Tanzania's southern circuit—visiting two parks most first-time safari-ers never consider—and discovers what happens when you trade the famous Great Migration crossing for a dry riverbed with not another human being in sight.
To get there, she consulted Elizabeth Gordon, co-founder of Extraordinary Journeys, who helped reframe what an African safari could be. What followed was eight days in Ruaha National Park and Nyerere National Park: a walking safari with a guide who reads the wind with a pouch of ash, a river full of hippos and crocodiles that Aislyn took to calling "danger soup," and a fly camp on a lake where a ranger stayed up all night speaking hippo so she didn't have to.
Come back next week for a bonus episode about what happens when a lion leaves the park—and meets a herd of cattle.
THIS WEEK'S GUESTS
Elizabeth Gordon is the co-founder of Extraordinary Journeys, a bespoke travel company designing African safari itineraries—and trips throughout South America and Asia—for travelers who want more than the standard route. Born in Kenya to a mother who joined the Peace Corps, earned her pilot's license, and built a house on a game park outside Nairobi, Elizabeth grew up between Kenya and France, studied in Beijing, and managed safari camps in Namibia before launching the company with her mother.
Pay Mbaryo is a walking guide and naturalist with Nomad Tanzania in Ruaha National Park. A farmer's son who grew up in the Gorongosa district, he has spent 15 years in the bush and navigates unmarked wilderness using what he calls a natural GPS. In a decade of guiding, he has never once had to use his rifle.
Gerald is a guide with Nomad Tanzania in Nyerere National Park, in his fourth year on the Rufiji River. He can identify a hippo's path out of the water by sight and smell—and he was the one who handed Aislyn a hippo skull to explain exactly why you don't want to be in that path.
IN THIS EPISODE
Why Tanzania's Southern Circuit—specifically Ruaha National Park and Nyerere National Park—offers a better African safari experience for first-time visitors than the Great Migration crossing: fewer people, better guides, and wildlife that doesn't know you're there
What a walking safari in Ruaha actually feels like: reading the wind with a pouch of ash, approaching a mother elephant and her calf without being detected, learning to make a toothbrush from a tree, and discovering the Small Five
How Pay spent 15 years learning that birds, buffalo, and elephants are all sharing information with one another—and why walking safari means becoming part of that conversation rather than watching it from a Jeep
The Rufiji River at Nyerere: a wide, curving expanse of "danger soup"—filled with hippos and crocodiles—and what an afternoon on the water teaches you about the elephant as a keystone species
What fly camping looks like when Nomad's team digs a bathroom into the sand, rigs a hot shower, serves gin and tonics under the stars, and a ranger stays up all night so you can fall asleep to the sound of the hippo brass band
CHAPTER MARKERS
00:00:00 Introduction: African Safari, But Different
00:04:00 Why the Southern Circuit
00:08:00 Arriving in Ruaha
00:12:00 Walking Safari With Pay
00:20:00 The Small Five and the Keystone Species
00:26:00 Nyerere and the Rufiji River
00:33:00 Danger Soup: Life on the Water
00:38:00 Fly Camping With Hippos
LINKS & RESOURCES
Extraordinary Journeys
Nomad Tanzania
Nomad Kigelia Camp, Ruaha
Nomad Sand Rivers Camp, Nyerere
Ruaha National Park, Tanzania
Nyerere National Park, Tanzania
View From Afar—Great Migration episode
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| What We Lose When a Language Dies | 20 août 2026 | 00:34:44 | |
By the end of this century, half of the world's 7,000 languages could be gone. On this episode of Unpacked, host Aislyn Greene hands the mic to travel writer Lucy Kehoe for a conversation about saving language with journalist Sophia Smith Galer, author of the new book How to Kill a Language.
For Sophia, saving language is personal: her Italian grandmother spoke Emilian, one of Italy's Indigenous tongues, and it's quietly slipping away. To understand what we lose when a language dies, Sophia traveled from the mountains of Oman to the hills of California, seeking out endangered languages and the communities fighting—or grieving—for them.
She and Lucy get into why these languages matter to every traveler, how language and landscape are woven together, and what it means to travel thoughtfully to a place whose language is at risk—beyond learning a few phrases. It's a conversation about treating language as part of the culture we come to experience, and about meeting it with curiosity and respect rather than as something quaint.
THIS WEEK'S GUESTS
Sophia Smith Galer is an award-winning journalist and author whose new book, How to Kill a Language, traces the forces—colonialism, globalization, migration, and war—pushing thousands of the world's languages toward extinction. Multilingual in English, Spanish, Italian, and Arabic, she reported it across California, Oman, Ghana, Ecuador, Italy, and Greece, meeting speakers of critically endangered languages in person to capture not only their words but their connection to a place.
Lucy Kehoe is a London-based journalist who covers travel, food, and the environment, with a particular interest in how people relate to landscape and place.
IN THIS EPISODE
The statistic that stopped us cold: by 2100, up to half of the world's 7,000 languages could vanish, and the rate of loss is expected to triple over the next 40 years
Why a language is far more than a way to order coffee—Sophia's case that it holds the past, present, and future of a people connected to a place, from Oman's Jibbali (with distinct words for animal versus human shelter) to a California tribe down to 12 adult speakers
What it really asks of travelers: not memorizing phrases, but bringing respect and dignity to an endangered language, and asking who profits from "language tourism" and whether speaker communities are truly part of it
Where to find language on the road—Planet Word in Washington, D.C., the Armenian alphabet monument outside Yerevan, a Ukrainian language tour in Kyiv, and Oman's frankincense heritage experience
The range of feelings Sophia found among speakers themselves—pride, determination, and quiet resignation—and why she believes the fate of each endangered language belongs to its own community to decide
00:00:00 A Grandmother's Vanishing Tongue
00:04:00 Why Endangered Languages Matters
00:06:00 Words Shaped by Place
00:10:00 Tourism Done Respectfully
00:16:00 California's Last Speakers
00:24:00 Ladino, Museums, and Hope
LINKS & RESOURCES
How to Kill a Language by Sophia Smith Galer — buy on Bookshop
Sophia Smith Galer's website
Lucy Kehoe's website
Planet Word, the language museum in Washington, D.C.
Armenian Alphabet Monument, outside Yerevan
Museum of the Frankincense Land, Oman
Stay connected
Be sure to subscribe to the show and sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode.
And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| Five Questions for the Man Who Walked a Fault Line in Japan by Feel | 19 août 2026 | 00:25:03 | |
This kind of Japan travel doesn't show up in guidebooks. In January 2024, a major earthquake struck the Noto Peninsula, lifting the seabed 15 feet into the air and exposing an ocean floor that locals walked across—harvesting octopus and abalone—to get home.
This week on Unpacked, Five Questions, host and Afar executive editor Katherine LaGrave is joined by Afar contributing writer Ryan Knighton, who recently wrote a feature about traveling along the peninsula. Ryan, who is blind, visited Noto two years after the earthquake on a slow walking tour, drawn by the parallels between this remote coastal peninsula and his own earthquake-prone home on Vancouver Island.
What he found was a place not broken, but mid-repair—and a Japanese art form that made sense of everything.
THIS WEEK’S GUEST
Ryan Knighton is an author and Afar contributing writing whose stories consistently find the textures, flavors, and human stories that sighted travelers walk past. A former English teacher in South Korea, he brings a slow, sensory approach to Japan travel and beyond—listening to sushi chefs talk about their knives, walking earthquake fracture lines with his feet, and finding the people who hold a place together.
IN THIS EPISODE
What blind travel in Japan actually looks like: why guides, sushi chefs, and strangers become the mediators of a place, and what it feels like to walk an earthquake fracture line with your feet instead of seeing it with your eyes
Why Ryan chose the Noto Peninsula for his Japan travel debut: a remote, earthquake-prone coastal community with striking geographic parallels to his own home—and a story of post-disaster recovery he felt compelled to witness in person
The food that made the trip: Tokyo-style sushi whose origins trace directly to a 1923 earthquake, Japanese barracuda, Noto sea salt gelato at 10 a.m. in a parking lot, and a tuna described by his wife as looking like a ruby
The scene that didn't make the final cut: a couple walking home after the earthquake on a newly exposed seabed—15 feet of ocean floor lifted overnight, scattered with octopus and abalone, with kids too excited about sea creatures to be scared
How kintsugi—the Japanese art of repairing broken objects with gold—became the metaphor that unlocked the entire story, and why it took a gold leaf factory on day one to understand what Noto was actually about
LINKS & RESOURCES
Ryan's Afar story on Noto, Japan
Walk Japan
Wajima, Ishikawa Prefecture
Somamichi Restaurant
2024 Noto Peninsula Earthquake — background
CHAPTER MARKERS
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:00 Japan Travel on Foot and Without Sight
00:05:00 The Ethics of Disaster Tourism
00:07:00 Food as Craft, Craft as Place
00:10:00 The Scene That Didn't Make the Cut
00:12:00 Walking the Fracture Line
00:14:00 Mr. Squid and the Spirit of Noto
00:16:00 Kintsugi as Metaphor
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| Why Women's Travel Writing Matters More Than Ever | 13 août 2026 | 00:33:14 | |
For the past several decades, writer and editor Lavinia Spalding has championed women's travel writing. She's helmed seven editions of the Best Women's Travel Writing—the celebrated Traveler's Tales anthology—including the latest, released on June 9th.
Over the years, she's read hundreds of submissions a year from women around the world and distilled them into one essential collection. So host Aislyn Greene sits down with Lavinia to talk about what two decades of editing these stories has taught her about how women explore the world, and why amplifying those voices matters more than ever right now.
THIS WEEK’S GUEST
Lavinia Spalding is the author of Writing Away: A Creative Guide to Awakening the Journal-Keeping Traveler , seven-time series editor of The Best Women’s Travel Writing, and co-author of With a Measure of Grace, This Immeasurable Place, and two editions of the Frommer’s EasyGuide to New Orleans. She has been teaching for more than 30 years and leads writing workshops online and around the world. She lives with her family in New Orleans. Watch her TEDx talk here, and subscribe to her Substack newsletter for updates and essays.
IN THIS EPISODE
How Lavinia shapes each volume of Best Women's Travel Writing like a playlist—balancing place, tone, voice, and the ratio of dark to light—and why this year's theme might be best described as "flashes of insight that arise from connection"
The essay that has never left her: Sandra Gail Lambert's pre-dawn solo kayak trip through the Florida Everglades, written from a wheelchair, with stakes so high that every preparation detail becomes profound
What two decades of reading women's travel writing has taught Lavinia: never underestimate a woman, and women who write about travel tend to be actively seeking transformation, not just sights
How the legacy of male-dominated adventure travel writing—conquest narratives, man-versus-place drama—may have conditioned women to fear solo travel, and what it looks like as that changes
Why a women's travel writing anthology still matters in 2026: to amplify voices of autonomy and adventure at a moment when women's rights and freedom of movement are under pressure
CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Young, Fearless, and Filled With Wonder
00:03:00 How a Volume Comes Together
00:07:00 The Traveler She Was, the Traveler She Is
00:10:00 Building the Playlist
00:14:00 The Stories That Live Inside Her
00:19:00 Never Underestimate a Woman
00:23:00 Who Gets to Be an Adventurer
00:28:00 Why It Matters Now
LINKS & RESOURCES
Best Women's Travel Writing, Volume 13—Bookshop.org
Traveler's Tales
Lavinia'swebsite
Lavinia'sWriting Away Substack
Lavinia's essay for Afar and Aislyn's essay for Afar
West With the Night by Beryl Markham
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| This Is One of the Best Architecture Cities in America | 12 août 2026 | 00:26:34 | |
Buffalo, New York might be the greatest architecture city you've never heard of. In the fourth and final episode of our Unpacked by Afar series, we explore how this Rust Belt city became one of the richest showcases of American architecture anywhere in the country.
Host Aislyn Greene tours Buffalo with Ed Howard, a docent and guide with Explore Buffalo. Ed shares that Buffalo was one of the wealthiest cities in America and drew the biggest names in architecture to build here. Stand on a single downtown corner and you can see work by the architects behind the Flatiron Building, the Twin Towers, and the first true skyscraper.
Buffalo is also one of only two American cities with major works by the "holy trinity" of American architecture, Louis Sullivan, H.H. Richardson, and Frank Lloyd Wright, whose Martin House is here. Then come the surprises: the industrial grain elevators that inspired modernist masters, and the Frederick Law Olmsted park system that led the man who designed Central Park to call Buffalo the best-planned city in the country.
It's a story of boom, near-ruin, and hard-won revival, a city that nearly lost its treasures and fought to save them. This is cultural travel at its most rewarding, a piece of American travel culture hiding in plain sight. If great architecture is a reason you travel, Buffalo belongs near the top of your list of American travel destinations.
Meet this week's guest
Ed Howard, docent and tour guide at Explore Buffalo
Chapters
00:00 — A Secret Architecture City
03:32 — Five Masters, One Corner
06:40 — The Holy Trinity
11:05 — Saving the Landmarks
17:00 — Grain and Grass
Where to go to explore Buffalo's architecture
Explore Buffalo — Walking, bus, and boat tours led by local guides; the single best way to take in the city's architecture.
Frank Lloyd Wright's Martin House — Wright's Prairie-style masterpiece, fully restored, and one of his finest residential works.
The Guaranty Building — Louis Sullivan's 1896 skyscraper, once nearly demolished, now restored to its original glory.
Richardson Olmsted Campus — H.H. Richardson's monumental former hospital; part is now a hotel, and Explore Buffalo runs hard-hat tours of the unrestored wings.
Buffalo Central Terminal — The grand 1929 Art Deco train station, mid-restoration.
Silo City and Duende — The towering grain elevators that awed modernist architects, with a bar tucked right among them.
Delaware Park and the Olmsted parkways — The green system that earned Buffalo its "best-planned city" title.
Go deeper at buffaloah.com, a database of hundreds of Buffalo buildings, and plan your trip with our Buffalo travel guide.
This is the fourth and final episode of our Buffalo series. New here? Go back for Buffalo's food scene, its neighborhoods, and its Black history. And follow Unpacked, a travel podcast from Afar, for more unique travel experiences around the world.
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| Hallowed Ground: The Street at the Heart of Buffalo's Black History | 29 juil. 2026 | 00:22:16 | |
For 185 years, some of the most important chapters of American history have unfolded on a few blocks of Buffalo's East Side. In the third episode of our four-part Unpacked by Afar series, we walk the Michigan Street African American Heritage Corridor, the beating heart of Buffalo Black history, with the man who has made preserving it his life's work.
Executive director Terry Alford grew up on these streets and is now leading their revival. He guides host Aislyn Greene through 185 years of Buffalo Black history: a church that was one of the last stops on the Underground Railroad, the home where the Niagara Movement was born, the club where jazz greats jammed until dawn because they weren't allowed to sleep in the hotels they had just played, and the radio station that became the megaphone of the Civil Rights movement.
Then he shares how urban renewal nearly erased it all, and how he is fighting to bring it back, guided by the Ghanaian principle of Sankofa: move forward, but never forget where you came from.
This is cultural travel at its most moving, a piece of American travel culture far too few people know. It is also one of the most powerful travel stories we have told, and a lesson in responsible travel: how to visit a place and honor the people whose stories made it. If Buffalo Black history is not yet on your list of American travel destinations, this episode, and this corridor, will change that.
Meet this week's guest
Terry Alford, executive director of the Michigan Street African American Heritage Corridor Commission
Chapters
00:00 Buffalo's Black History
04:19 Underground Railroad to Jazz
10:02 Loss and Revival
13:42 A Vision for 2030
Where to go to explore Buffalo's Black history
Michigan Street African American Heritage Corridor — Start at the visitor center and tour the anchor sites, all just steps apart.
Michigan Street Baptist Church — Built in 1845, one of the last stops on the Underground Railroad, with a newly restored interior.
Nash House Museum — The preserved home of Rev. J. Edward Nash and Frances Nash, plus the Frances Nash community garden and Tuesday farmers market.
The Colored Musicians Club & Jazz Museum — The only continuously running, all-Black-owned club in the U.S., with Sunday night jam sessions and a jazz museum.
WUFO Black Radio History Collective — The historic voice of Buffalo's Civil Rights movement.
The Freedom Wall — The AKG's 28-portrait mural of Black Civil Rights figures, at the corridor's northern entrance.
Read more in Afar's guide to Buffalo's Black history along the Michigan Street corridor, and plan your trip with our Buffalo travel guide.
This is episode three of a four-part series. Next week, we explore Buffalo's astonishing architecture, one of the best-kept design secrets in America.
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| Asheville Hiking, Waterfalls, and the Oldest Mountains on Earth | The Travel Guide | 24 juil. 2026 | 00:22:03 | |
This is the final stop on our five-part audio guide to Asheville, North Carolina, and we’re heading for the trees. In this episode of Unpacked by Afar, host Aislyn Greene laces up for Asheville hiking, and discovers why the oldest mountains on Earth are also some of the most beloved.
On a tour with Hike Bike Kayak Asheville that takes Aislyn and guide David into the Pisgah National Forest, Aislyn learns that Asheville hiking means far more than a simple walk in the woods. These are among the oldest mountains in the world, cloaked in one of the most biodiverse forests in North America, home to thousands of plant species and waterfalls around nearly every bend. David leads her to quiet swimming holes and points out plants that grow nowhere else on Earth.
She stands beneath Looking Glass Falls and hears how a single valley packs in world-class rock climbing, fly fishing on the Davidson River, and a 60-foot natural water slide called Sliding Rock.
Zoom out, and the scale is staggering. The Great Smoky Mountains and the Blue Ridge Parkway are among the most visited places in the entire national park system, and Mount Mitchell, the highest peak east of the Mississippi, rises just up the road. It helps explain why so many people who come here for Asheville hiking end up never wanting to leave, and why the outdoors are one of America’s great travel destinations. It’s a landscape you can dip into for a single afternoon or disappear into for a week.
It all adds up to a rich piece of cultural travel and a fitting finale to our guide: a reminder that in Asheville, the wild is never far away. Whether you want a gentle waterfall stroll or a hard climb to a summit view, the trailheads are closer than you think, and the payoff is some of the most beautiful country in the eastern United States. Consider it your guide to where to go and what to know.
Unpacked by Afar is a travel podcast that unpacks one destination at a time. That’s the end of our Asheville audio guide, so catch up on the whole series in the feed.
CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Older Than the Atlantic
00:02:30 Meeting My Guide
00:06:30 The Blue Ridge Parkway
00:11:00 Looking Glass Falls
00:13:15 Wildflowers and Orchids
00:16:15 Behind Moore Cove
GUESTS | David Teafatiller of Hike Bike Kayak Asheville, our hiking guide
PLACES WE VISITED
Pisgah National Forest
Looking Glass Falls
Sliding Rock
Davidson River
Blue Ridge Parkway
Great Smoky Mountains National Park
Mount Mitchell State Park
MORE FROM AFAR
Asheville Travel Guide
10 Travel Itineraries for Exploring Asheville Your Way (includes an outdoor itinerary)
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| Asheville Food and the Growth of a Farm-to-Table Town | The Travel Guide | 24 juil. 2026 | 00:31:28 | |
This is the fourth stop on our five-part audio guide to Asheville, North Carolina, and it may be the tastiest one yet. In this episode of Unpacked by Afar, host Aislyn Greene digs into Asheville food, and the surprising reason this mountain city punches so far above its weight at the table.
Aislyn joins a walking food tour with Sita of Eating Asheville, eating her way through a town where farm to table isn’t a slogan but a fact of geography. Along the way she:
Discovers that Asheville food can be a real relief for anyone with dietary restrictions at the celiac-run kitchen of Strada Italiano
Hears the moving, Helene-shaped story behind Mehfil from its owner, Raj
Tastes mountain-grown rice at the farm-to-table cornerstone Table with chef Catherine Smedley
Forages Appalachian flavors at Luminosa
And finishes with a former science teacher turned chocolatier, Melissa Quinn, at Asheville Chocolate.
It’s a scene built on tight relationships between kitchens and the farms a few ridges away, where the rice on your plate might have been grown just up the road, and where a devastating hurricane the year before only deepened the sense that these restaurants belong to their community.
But great Asheville food is also a question of who gets to make it, and whose history gets remembered. In a segment on the region’s Black foodways, Aislyn talks with two of the city’s most celebrated chefs, Ashleigh Shanti of Good Hot Fish and Rakim Gaines of Capella on 9, about Affrilachian cooking, representation behind the stove, and the stories layered into every plate. Their conversation is a reminder that a food town’s story has to include the people history has too often left off the menu.
It all adds up to a rich piece of cultural travel and a portrait of one of the best small food towns in the country. Whatever you come hungry for, consider this your guide to where to go and what to know.
Unpacked by Afar is a travel podcast that unpacks one destination at a time, with a real love of food and travel. This Asheville audio guide has one more episode to go, so look for it in the feed.
CHAPTERS
00:00 A Real Food Town
03:00 Strada's Gluten-Free Surprise
05:00 Mehfil and Raj's Story
09:45 Table's Mountain Rice
12:40 Foraging at Luminosa
18:15 Cooking on The Block
23:15 Dessert With Melissa Quinn
26:00 Come Hungry
GUESTS
Sita, operations manager and tour guide, Eating Asheville Walking Food Tours
Raj, owner, Mehfil Indian Restaurant
Catherine Smedley, chef de cuisine, Table
Chef Sean McMullen of Luminosa
Melissa Quinn, head chocolatier and owner, Asheville Chocolate
Ashleigh Shanti, chef and owner, Good Hot Fish
Rakim Gaines, executive chef, Capella on 9
PLACES WE VISITED
Strada Italiano
Mehfil Indian Restaurant
Table
Luminosa (in the Flatiron Building)
Asheville Chocolate
Good Hot Fish
Capella on 9
MORE FROM AFAR
Asheville Travel Guide
A Local Chef’s 2-Day Travel Guide to Asheville
Immerse Yourself in Asheville’s Culturally Diverse Experiences
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| Black Mountain and the Region's Creative Soul | The Travel Guide | 24 juil. 2026 | 00:26:25 | |
This is the third stop on our five-part audio guide to Asheville, North Carolina, and it takes us just outside the city to the small mountain town of Black Mountain, North Carolina. In this episode of Unpacked by Afar, host Aislyn Greene goes looking for the creative soul of the region, and finds it everywhere: in the galleries, in the glass studios, and above all in the music scene.
Aislyn starts with breakfast at Cousins Cuban Cafe, then walks a town so small you can cross it in a few minutes, passing murals of Black Mountain’s famous daughter, the late Roberta Flack.
She also traces the ghost of Black Mountain College, the radical, short-lived arts school just outside town that helped shape modern American art before it closed and all but disappeared.
She plays with fire at the North Carolina Glass Center alongside executive director Candace Riley and glassblower Mark DeShields, learning how the quartz buried in these mountains helped turn the region into a glass capital.
Over dinner at Hell or High Water, chef Eric Morris explains how Appalachian food ways, and a hurricane, gave the restaurant its name.
But the heart of the episode is music. At a listening room called White Horse, Aislyn meets managing director Zach Hinkle, who traces the surprising, and nearly lost, blues and gospel roots of Asheville music, and explains why this corner of the Blue Ridge has always pulled creative people in. The episode ends inside a benefit concert, where the whole community turns out to keep a beloved venue alive.
It all adds up to a rich piece of cultural travel: the story of why a tiny mountain town became one of the most quietly influential creative places in America, one of the South’s most surprising travel destinations, and why the Asheville music scene still draws people to these hills. Consider it your guide to where to go and what to know.
Unpacked by Afar is a travel podcast that unpacks one destination at a time. This Asheville audio guide continues, so look for the rest of the series waiting in the feed.
CHAPTERS
(00:00) Welcome to Black Mountain
(01:30) Breakfast at Cousins Cuban and a walk through town
(04:00) Playing with fire at the North Carolina Glass Center
(06:30) The quartz that made a glass capital
(11:00) Dinner at Hell or High Water
(13:30) A restaurant named for the storm
(17:00) Inside the White Horse listening room
(19:00) The nearly lost blues of these mountains
(22:00) A benefit concert, and why the music survives
(27:00) The creative soul of Black Mountain
GUESTS
Candace Reilly, executive director, North Carolina Glass Center
Mark DeShields, glassblower, North Carolina Glass Center
Eric Morris, executive chef, Hell or High Water (Foothills Local Meats)
Zach Hinkle, managing director, White Horse Black Mountain
Featured musicians at the White Horse benefit: Robin Bullock, Bill Maddox, Dr. Bill Bares, Peggy Ratusz, and Chris Rosser
PLACES WE VISITED
Cousins Cuban Cafe
North Carolina Glass Center
Hell or High Water
Trillium Table
White Horse Black Mountain (performing at the Monte Vista Hotel during renovations)
Stay: Peri Social House
MORE FROM AFAR
Asheville Travel Guide
10 Travel Itineraries for Exploring Asheville Your Way (including a music itinerary led by Virtuous)
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| Asheville Wellness and 150 Years of the Mountain Cure | The Travel Guide | 24 juil. 2026 | 00:21:06 | |
This is the second stop on our five-part audio guide to Asheville, North Carolina, and it reaches back a lot further than you might expect. In this episode of Unpacked by Afar, host Aislyn Greene unpacks the long, strange story of Asheville wellness, and why doctors have been sending patients to these mountains for more than a century and a half.
To understand where Asheville wellness began, Aislyn talks with David Freedman, an infectious disease physician and travel medicine expert who retired to the city. He explains the era of climatotherapy, when clean mountain air and a just-right altitude were prescribed for the respiratory illnesses of the Industrial Revolution, and for the deadliest disease of the 19th century, tuberculosis. It’s a history written into the architecture itself, from buildings angled toward the prevailing wind to the once-ubiquitous sleeping porch, and even into the phrase “health resort,” which Asheville helped invent.
Then Aislyn brings the story to the present, where Asheville wellness has grown into one of the most diverse scenes in the country. She heads into the Asheville Salt Cave and Spa, surrounded by 30 tons of ancient Himalayan salt, and hears from owner Jodie Appel about the surprising family story that started it all. She also sits in on a sound bath with sound therapist Kristin Hillegas, and gathers the full, wonderfully weird range of what you can try here, from hydrotherapy and aura photography to a practitioner known as the Breath Nurse.
It all adds up to a rich piece of cultural travel and a portrait of a place locals call the Happy City. Whatever draws you to these mountains, it’s a reminder that the best travel experiences often start with simply feeling better, and that knowing where to go can be its own kind of medicine.
Unpacked by Afar is a travel podcast that unpacks one destination at a time. This Asheville audio guide continues across three more episodes, so look for the rest of the series waiting in the feed.
GUESTS
David O. Freedman, infectious disease physician and travel medicine expert, Asheville
Jodi Appel, owner, Asheville Salt Cave and Spa
Kristin Hillegas, sound therapist, who runs Serenity Sound Healing of Asheville and leads sound baths at the Center for Spiritual Living Asheville
Tebbé Davis, guide and storyteller, Asheville By Foot walking tours (returning from episode 1)
PLACES WE VISITED
Asheville Salt Cave and Spa
Center for Spiritual Living Asheville
Serenity Sound Healing of Asheville
The Spa at Omni Grove Park Inn
CHAPTERS
(00:00) A century-old prescription: go to the mountains
(01:40) A sound bath to begin
(02:10) Meet David Freedman and the science of climatotherapy
(03:40) Fresh air, altitude, and the architecture of breathing
(07:50) Tuberculosis and the “Robber of Youth”
(09:20) John Dickson’s “cure” and the birth of the “health resort”
(11:10) From sanitariums to a modern wellness scene
(11:20) Inside the Asheville Salt Cave
(13:00) Jodi Appell on salt, her father, and opening the spa
(17:00) A sound bath, up close
(19:00) Why Asheville calls itself the “Happy City”
(20:45) People still come here to feel better
MORE FROM AFAR
Asheville Travel Guide
10 Travel Itineraries for Exploring Asheville Your Way (includes a restorative, wellness-minded itinerary)
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| Asheville History and the Making of a Mountain City | The Travel Guide | 24 juil. 2026 | 00:31:53 | |
Welcome to the first stop on our five-part audio guide to Asheville, North Carolina. And where better to start than at the beginning? In this episode of Unpacked by Afar, host Aislyn Greene sets out on foot to trace Asheville history from the ground up, and to answer a simple question: How did a remote, hard-to-reach valley in the Blue Ridge Mountains become one of the most creative small cities in America?
Aislyn’s first guide reveals the deep Asheville history hiding in plain sight downtown. There are the ancient mountains and rivers, the Cherokee crossroads that predated the city by thousands of years, the rowdy cattle-drive era that gave the town its early reputation, and the arrival of the railroad in 1880, which brought the Vanderbilts, the Groves, and the money that built landmarks like the Grove Arcade.
From there, Aislyn drives out to the Biltmore Estate, America’s largest privately owned home, to meet Chase Pickering, a fifth-generation member of the Vanderbilt family. He shares what it was like to grow up on the estate, and why stewardship and sustainability still shape the property today.
But no honest telling of Asheville history is complete without the Black community that helped build the city, including Biltmore itself. Aislyn rides through the historically Black neighborhoods of Eagle Street and Burton Street with DeWayne Barton of Hood Huggers, meets community elder Clifford Cotton, grandson of the pioneering entrepreneur E.W. Pearson, and hears a song from Asheville artist Virtuous.
It all adds up to a rich piece of cultural travel and the story of how Asheville became Asheville: a place ringed by mountains where people have both passed through and put down deep roots. Consider this your starting point for planning Asheville travel, and your first look at one of the South’s most distinctive travel destinations. It’s also your reminder that the best trips start with knowing where to go and why a place is the way it is.
Unpacked by Afar is a travel podcast that unpacks one destination at a time. This Asheville audio guide continues across four more episodes, so look for the rest of the series waiting in the feed.
GUESTS
Tebbé Davis, guide and storyteller, Asheville By Foot walking tours
Chase Pickering, Vice President of Guest Experience at the Biltmore Estate, and fifth-generation Vanderbilt family member
DeWayne Barton, founder, Hood Huggers
Clifford Cotton, community elder and grandson of E.W. Pearson, Burton Street Community Center
Virtuous, songwriter and performing artist
PLACES WE VISITED//WHERE WE STAYED
Grove Arcade
Biltmore Estate
Eagle Street
Basilica of Saint Lawrence
Burton Street Community Center
Peace Gardens & Market
Stay: AutoCamp Asheville, Airstream lodging on the river
Stay: The Windsor Boutique Hotel, apartment style lodging downtown
CHAPTERS
(00:00) Welcome to Asheville
(01:05) The oldest mountains in the world
(02:40) A Cherokee crossroads and the “Las Vegas” of the 1800s
(05:00) Inside the Grove Arcade
(10:40) The Vanderbilts and the Biltmore Estate
(12:10) Chase Pickering on five generations at Biltmore
(17:50) The Black community that built Asheville
(19:00) Riding with Hood Huggers through Burton Street
(21:40) E.W. Pearson’s legacy and the Royal Giants
(24:40) The Peace Gardens Sculpture Park
(27:15) How Asheville became Asheville
MORE FROM AFAR
Asheville Travel Guide
Immerse Yourself in Asheville’s Culturally Diverse Experiences
10 Travel Itineraries for Exploring Asheville Your Way (including a music itinerary led by Virtuous)
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| The City of Good Neighbors: A Buffalo Travel Story of Arrival and Belonging | 21 juil. 2026 | 00:23:48 | |
Buffalo, New York has called itself the City of Good Neighbors since 1940, and in 2023 Reader's Digest even voted it the nicest city in America. But is it true? In this episode of Unpacked by Afar, host Aislyn Greene turns a Buffalo travel story into a bigger question: what does it actually take to turn a stranger into a neighbor?
We begin 150 years ago, on the East Side patch that grew into the second-largest Polish community in the world and the birthplace of Dyngus Day, one of the most joyful traditions in American travel culture. Then we follow that same ground to today, where newcomers from Burma, Congo, Iraq, and Afghanistan are remaking the city block by block. This is cultural travel at its richest: the refugee resettlement workers who set up a family's home before they arrive, the volunteers who knock on the door, and one man's first snow-covered year going from guest to Buffalonian.
If you love travel stories about the people who make a place, this Buffalo travel episode is a love letter to the city's neighborhoods and the neighbors rebuilding them. It's also a reminder that the most meaningful, responsible travel often means slowing down to notice who actually lives somewhere.
Where to go to explore Buffalo
Dyngus Day — The water-and-pussy-willow spring celebration through the Historic Polonia District, the largest Dyngus Day anywhere outside Poland.
Broadway Market — The 130-plus-year-old public market at the heart of the old Polish East Side, still going strong.
Buffalo Central Terminal — The grand, once-abandoned Art Deco railroad terminal now being restored, and where the Dyngus Day parade ends.
Journey's End Refugee Services — Learn about the Home Again program, volunteer, or donate to help welcome Buffalo's newest neighbors.
Buffalo & Erie County Botanical Gardens — Where Ko Ko finally found a mango tree, and a green escape from a long Buffalo winter.
Plan your own trip with our Buffalo travel guide.
Chapters
00:00 — Dyngus Day
02:00 — City of Good Neighbors
06:00 — Building Polonia
14:00 — A New Wave
22:00 — From Guest to Buffalonian
Follow Unpacked by Afar for more on where to go next, and let this be your guide to a side of Buffalo travel most visitors never see.
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| Beyond the Wing: How Buffalo's Food Scene Quietly Became One of America's Best | 14 juil. 2026 | 00:22:40 | |
Everybody knows Buffalo, New York, for the chicken wing. Fewer people know the real story behind the wing—or the full story of Buffalo's food scene, which is grounded in tradition and full of innovation.
In the first episode of our four-part Unpacked by Afar series on Buffalo, we start where you should always start: at the table. Host Aislyn Greene digs into a food scene that has quietly become one of the most surprising in America, shaped by waves of immigrants and refugees, a fiercely independent streak, and chefs who don't need anyone's permission to be great.
Meet this week's guests
Francesca Bond, food and drink reporter at the Buffalo News
Jessica Forster, partner, wine director, and sommelier at Waxlight Bar à Vin
Lina Brown-Young, founder of John Young's Original
Topics covered
The history of food in Buffalo
Why serious restaurants are betting on Buffalo's food scene
The real story of the Buffalo chicken wing
The best traditional foods to try, inclbeef on weck, the Tom and Jerry (a Christmastime drink), and the deep-fried pizza log.
Why Buffalo turned down a spot in the Michelin Guide (for now), and what that choice reveals about how the city sees itself.
Where to go to explore Buffalo's food scene
Southern Junction — Chef Ryan Fernandez's nationally acclaimed "Tex-ish" barbecue, blending Texas smoke with South Indian (Keralan) spice.
Waxlight Bar à Vin — Owner-operated wine bar in Black Rock with an ever-changing, French-ish menu, with a happy hour that lets you taste the ambition for around $12.
John Young's Original — Lina Brown-Young's bottled mumbo sauce (original and spicy), plus pop-up wings at the Broadway Market.
The Wing Ride (Buffalo Bike Tours) — A bike tour into the true, complicated history of the Buffalo wing, featuring a stop with Lina Brown-Young and her father's recipe.
West Side Bazaar — A small-business incubator and international food hall built by refugee and immigrant entrepreneurs
Duende at Silo City — A bar and gathering space set among Buffalo's historic grain silos on the river.
Anchor Bar — The wing's long-credited "official" birthplace, for the other side of the story.
Find more in this afar.com guide to Buffalo's food scene and be sure to explore our Buffalo travel guide
Chapters
00:00 — More Than Wings
04:00 — A Changing Food Scene
09:00 — Ambition and Affordability
15:00 — The True Inventor
21:00 — Michelin and Beyond
This is episode one of a four-part series that includes travel tips to help you explore Buffalo. Next week, we walk the neighborhoods of the self-described "City of Good Neighbors."
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| Following the Lewis and Clark National Historic Trail—and the Story It Left Out | 09 juil. 2026 | 00:40:43 | |
Welcome to Unpacked Five Questions, a podcast that takes you behind the scenes of one great travel story. In this episode, executive editor Katherine LaGrave sits down with writer Latria Graham, Afar's Unpacked columnist.
Latria spent seven weeks driving the nearly 5,000-mile Lewis and Clark National Historic Trail—alone—to report a story about the Corps of Discovery's most essential and least credited member: York, an enslaved man whose skills, knowledge, and presence helped make the entire expedition possible.
Latria traces the trail from Kentucky to the Pacific Northwest, stopping at massacre sites, Indigenous mounds, sunflower fields, and a 50-foot statue of an Indigenous woman with a star quilt—asking what it means to travel responsibly through landscapes layered with historical trauma, and the questions that still remain about York's life.
Meet this week's guest
Latria Graham is a writer and Afar's Unpacked columnist, whose work turns over some of travel's biggest and most difficult questions—from whether we should visit museums with complicated histories to how we can better support hospitality workers. Follow her on Instagram at @missgraham.
Episode highlights
Why York—the enslaved man who traveled the entire Corps of Discovery expedition—was essential to its survival, and how historical accounts minimized him for generations while Black historians have spent decades restoring his full dimensions
What Latria found at the statue of York in Louisville, the Dignity of Earth and Sky sculpture in Chamberlain, South Dakota, and Fort Abraham Lincoln State Park in North Dakota: three sites that grappled honestly with what the trail erased
How to travel responsibly through landscapes layered with trauma: spending money with local restaurants and farms, practicing leave no trace principles, sitting with hard history in small museums, and knowing when not to take the riskier hike
Why the rivers mattered most: every confluence, every overlook, every moment the water changed direction—the one thing on the trail that was there before the history and will be there after it
The questions the trail left open: what actually happened to York after the expedition ended, whether a GIS map or an app might tell these stories better than a book, and what it means to make sure history lives as fully realized human lives rather than names and dates
Links & resources
Follow Latria Graham on Instagram
Read her Lewis and Clark trail story for Afar
Lewis and Clark National Historic Trail
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| Queer Travel Is About Joy, Not Just Safety | 02 juil. 2026 | 00:37:11 | |
LGBTQ+ Americans are more than twice as likely as the general population to hold a valid passport. That stat sits at the heart of (Out )on the Road: The Radical Joy of Queer Travel, a new book from writer Lindsey Danis that's part memoir, part guide.
Most conversations about queer travel start and end with safety. Lindsey wanted to write past that, toward joy, belonging, and power. In this episode, they and Aislyn talk about the honeymoon trip that reshaped Lindsey's whole life, the research that turns fear into freedom, and why traveling as exactly who you are is its own kind of homecoming.
Meet this week's guest
Lindsey Danis is a writer and the author of (Out )on the Road, a travel memoir and reported guide written by and for LGBTQ+ travelers. Their work explores queer travel, belonging, and the search for joy on the road. You can find their work at lindseydanis.com.
In this episode you'll learn
Why Lindsey scrapped an entire early draft that was a straightforward travel memoir, and what they wrote instead.
How research becomes the bridge from fear to joy, and the two tools Lindsey relies on before every trip.
Why a honeymoon in Vietnam and Thailand changed not just how Lindsey travels, but where and how they live.
What Lindsey hopes allies take away from the book, including readers who never expected to see themselves in it.
Episode chapters
00:00 A Surprising Stat
02:00 The Book They Needed
05:00 Scrapping The Memoir
09:00 Hiding And Choice
12:00 On Passing
16:00 Two Favorite Tools
18:00 A Toast In Vietnam
20:00 The Honeymoon Shift
25:00 The Galapagos
27:00 A Note For Allies
30:00 Next Stop, Sri Lanka
Resources
Movement Advancement Project — a color-coded database comparing US state laws on gender identity and sexual orientation: mapresearch.org
EqualDex — a country-by-country index of LGBTQ+ rights and attitudes worldwide: equaldex.com
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| Travel to Listen: Everyone Knows Motown. Not Everyone Knows Its Story | 01 juil. 2026 | 00:23:09 | |
Welcome to Travel to Listen, a new Unpacked series hosted by veteran music journalist Tim Chester. Over four episodes, Tim took us into the cities where music is more than entertainment—it's the shortcut to a place's soul. In this season finale, he heads to Detroit to explore the legendary Motown sound—and to find out what's next for the little house on West Grand Boulevard that started it all.
Meet this week's guests
Adam White is the author of Motown: The Sound of Young America, co-written with former Motown president Barney Ales. A former editor-in-chief at Billboard, Adam has spent 40 years exploring the Motown story and writes a weekly blog about the label at adamwhite.com.
Robin Terry is the chairwoman and CEO of the Motown Museum—and Berry Gordy's great-niece. Raised by her grandmother Esther Gordy Edwards, who founded the museum, Robyn is currently leading the $75 million expansion.
Guest host Tim Chester is a freelance travel and culture writer who has spent the past 20 years exploring the world through the lens of music. His reporting has appeared in NME, Spin, and Afar, and his travels have taken him from Manhattan to Malawi and Beijing to Berlin in search of the festivals, scenes, and stories that reveal a city's soul.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Detroit
00:02:00 Why Motown Endures
00:04:00 The Detroit Advantage
00:07:00 The Motown Family
00:09:00 Inside Hitsville USA
00:12:00 Psychedelic Soul
00:16:00 Hitsville Next
A Music Fan's Travel Guide to Detroit
Detroit's Motown story is anchored to one street, but the city's music scene runs much deeper. Here's how to experience it.
Start here: the essential stops
Hitsville USA / The Motown Museum — Berry Gordy's original house at 2648 West Grand Boulevard, where Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, The Supremes, The Temptations, and Martha and the Vandellas all got their start. Note: the museum is closed during its $75 million expansion, but the plaza in front of Hitsville is open and activated with food trucks and live performances all summer.
Esther Gordy Edwards Center for Excellence — the nearby space hosting the museum's first major exhibition, Psychedelic Soul, running through September 2026. A deep dive into Motown's overlooked '70s era, Norman Whitfield, and the Temptations.
Michigan Central Station — the newly restored Beaux-Arts landmark that anchors Detroit's broader reinvention. A short drive from Hitsville and worth the detour.
Hear live music
Smokey's Soul Town on SiriusXM — not a venue, but essential listening before and during your trip. The show is recorded at the museum and hosted by Levi Stubbs III and John Mason.
The Current (Twin Cities) — if you're road-tripping from Minneapolis, keep this on. Their gig listings track what's happening across the Midwest music scene.
Go deeper
Standing in the Shadows of Motown — the book and documentary that finally gave names and faces to the Funk Brothers, the studio musicians behind the sound.
Hitsville Next — the Motown Museum's emerging artist community for singers, songwriters, musicians, and engineers. hitsvilleusa.com
The full Travel to Listen series
Episode 1: Macon, Georgia — Little Richard, Otis Redding, the Allman Brothers, and the small Southern city that punches far above its weight. Listen now.
Episode 2: Minneapolis — Prince, the Minneapolis sound, and a city still making music history a decade after his death. Listen now.
Episode 3: Southern California — the spacey, grungy desert rock scene beyond Coachella. Listen now.
Episode 4 (this one!): Detroit — Motown, Hitsville USA, and what comes next.
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| Feel-Good Friday: The Viral World Cup Food Obsession and a Very American Bourbon | 26 juin 2026 | 00:12:11 | |
It’s the last Feel-Good Friday before host Aislyn and producer Nikki take a summer break. And they’re sending the season off with two of summer’s great pleasures: a viral World Cup food obsession and a very American bourbon.
First, why international soccer fans are falling hard for ranch dressing—and getting stopped at airport security over it. Then, a first-of-its-kind whiskey blended from all 50 states, arriving just in time for the Fourth of July and America’s 250th birthday.
This week’s Feel-Good Friday stories
International visitors flooding the US for the World Cup have discovered ranch dressing, and they want to take it home by the bottle. Aislyn and Nikki tackle the great World Cup ranch debate.
An independent bottler spent five years and a cross-country road trip visiting more than 100 distilleries to create the first whiskey ever blended from all 50 states. PLUS a limited 1776 edition drawn from the original 13 colonies, made to mark the country’s 250th.
Bonus: A couple of cautionary tales about packing wine home in your luggage, and a solemn vow never to pair good bourbon with ranch.
That’s a wrap on Feel-Good Friday for the season. Aislyn and Nikki will be back after a summer break — until then, happy Fourth of July, and happy summer.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Feel-Good Friday
00:02:00 The Great Ranch Debate
00:05:00 Liquid Smuggling Confessions
00:07:00 United States of Bourbon
00:10:00 Cheers to Summer
Stay connected
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And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| Why a Michigan Road Trip Might Be the Best Way to Build a Friendship | 26 juin 2026 | 00:43:03 | |
On this episode of Unpacked, host Aislyn Greene and producer Nikki Galteland hit the road in Michigan and find epic adventures, gorgeous waterways—and a new way to connect.
Join them as they follow Michigan's mitten counterclockwise, exploring the state's many waterways. They paddle the Au Sable River, flying over the Lake Huron shipwrecks of Thunder Bay, ferry over to the car-free Mackinac Island, savor, the deep quiet of Drummond Island—and the sparkling-wine country of the Leelanau Peninsula.
It's a Great Lakes road trip built on short drives, Up North history, and the kindness of strangers, and it turns into a case for why traveling this way might be one of the best ways to build a friendship.
Meet this week's guests (aka our new Michigan friends)
Adam Hume runs Oscoda Canoe Rental on the Au Sable River.
Kathy Erickson helps put on the Au Sable River Canoe Marathon, the 120-mile overnight race she lovingly calls the world's toughest spectator sport.
Stephanie Gandulla is a maritime archaeologist at Thunder Bay National Marine Sanctuary.
Captain Richard Biffle pilots the glass-bottom Lady Michigan for Alpena Shipwreck Tours.
Patrick Conlon is the general manager of The Inn at Stonecliffe on Mackinac Island and one of roughly 500 people who live on the island year round.
Emily is the wine club manager at MAWBY on the Leelanau Peninsula.
You'll also hear from Jared, the pilot who flew Aislyn and Nikki over the wrecks in a 1975 Cessna, and Sarah, the guide who showed them around Alpena for the afternoon.
This summer (or next fall...or spring...) plan your own Michigan road trip, hitting the spots featured in the episode
Detroit: Start in the Motor City with Afar's Detroit guide.
Oscoda and the Sunrise Coast: Paddle the Au Sable River with Oscoda Canoe Rental and sleep on Lake Huron at the Sweetwater Sea Bed & Breakfast. Time your visit to the Au Sable River Canoe Marathon if you can; this year's race starts July 25.
Alpena and Thunder Bay: Start at the free Great Lakes Maritime Heritage Center, then ride the glass-bottom Lady Michigan with Alpena Shipwreck Tours over the wrecks of Thunder Bay National Marine Sanctuary, and climb the New and Old Presque Isle lighthouses.
Mackinac Island: Stay at The Inn at Stonecliffe (a humanitarian hotel), bike the 8-mile car-free loop on M-185, and sample your way through the island's famous fudge shops.
Drummond Island: Base at Drummond Island Resort and walk the Maxton Plains, one of the world's rare alvar grasslands.
Leelanau Peninsula: Taste sparkling wine at MAWBY, the oldest winery on the peninsula.
The stops that didn't make the episode but are worth a visit!
The Soo Locks in Sault Ste. Marie
Traverse City, home to delicious restaurants, fantastic cider, tall-ship sails, the annual cherry festival, and so much more
Saugatuck, where Nikki and Aislyn stayed at the retro Pines Motor Lodge
And Dablon winery in Baroda, which is part of the Lake Michigan Shore AVA (find more wineries to explore in the region)
Plan the whole route with Afar's Michigan guide and Afar's guide to road trips.
Stay connected
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And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| Feel-Good Friday: An Ode to Obama, New London Museums, and a Hopeful Ocean Story | 19 juin 2026 | 00:14:16 | |
It’s Feel-Good Friday, and Unpacked host Aislyn and producer Nikki are joined by a guest they’ve been waiting weeks to record with: Afar senior editor Lucy Kehoe, who also edits our UK sister title, Suitcase. Three stories, all good news, landing fittingly on Juneteenth.
This week’s stories:
A landmark opening in Chicago lands right on Juneteenth: a nearly 20-acre campus on the South Side, a decade in the making, that’s less presidential library and more civic gathering place, right down to an Oval Office anyone can sit in.
Five new museums are arriving in one famously museum-rich city this year, from a vertigo-inducing glass storehouse where you can watch conservators at work to a love letter to teenage subcultures, Walkman included.
A newly protected stretch of the South Pacific roughly the size of the Amazon rainforest. One that's Indigenous-led, tourism-friendly, and home to about three-quarters of the world’s coral species.
Plus: Nikki’s very specific dream of finally meeting a dugong in the wild.
Tune in every Friday through June for a fresh trio of stories from Afar’s favorite travel writers and editors. We’ll see you next week.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Feel-Good Friday
00:02:00 You Are America
00:04:00 London’s Museum Boom
00:08:00 Protecting the Coral Triangle
00:11:00 In Search of Dugongs
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| Why the Best New Hotels of 2026 Aren’t All "New" | 18 juin 2026 | 00:41:07 | |
What makes a hotel the best? Not just new, not just beautiful, but worthy of a list that thousands of travelers plan their year around? For Afar senior deputy editor Jennifer Flowers, it comes down to a single test: does this hotel have a story? Not a marketing story—a real one, rooted in the place it sits, the community around it, or the history in its bones.
In this episode, Afar editorial director Billie Cohen sits down with Jenn to go behind the scenes of the 2026 Best New Hotels list, one of the biggest the team has ever assembled at 40 properties. Jenn explains how the year-long vetting process actually works (yes, every hotel was personally visited), why she pairs the right writer with the right destination, and what separates a genuine standout from a merely beautiful place to stay.
Along the way, Billie and Jenn travel from a nonprofit lodge reachable only by boat or seaplane at the edge of British Columbia’s Great Bear Rainforest, to a working dairy farm in Japan’s Tohoku region, to a six-suite, solar-powered lodge on regenerating land in South Africa.
They dig into the year’s biggest themes: the rise of women hoteliers at the founder and CEO level, the surprising number of “new” hotels that are actually painstaking restorations of centuries-old buildings, the reinvention of the all-inclusive, and a growing hunger for ethical access to the world’s wild places.
See the full 2026 Best New Hotels list at afar.com/bestnewhotels.
Chapters
00:00 — What Makes the Best
02:00 — The Story Test
08:00 — A Sleeper Hit
10:00 — Reviving an Icon
14:00 — Earning Your Luxury
18:00 — Part of the Place
20:00 — Surprised in Palm Beach
23:00 — New Hotels, Old Souls
28:00 — All-Inclusive, Reimagined
32:00 — Why Humans Still Matter
Stay connected
Follow Afar on Instagram and TikTok
Follow Billie Cohen on Instagram
Follow Jennifer Flowers on Instagram
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| Travel to Listen: The Spacey, Sunbaked Rock of California's Mojave Desert | 16 juin 2026 | 00:15:36 | |
Welcome to "Travel to Listen," a new Unpacked series hosted by veteran music journalist Tim Chester. Over four episodes rolling out every other week, Tim takes us into the cities where music is more than entertainment—it’s the shortcut to a place’s soul.
This week, he heads into the high desert of Southern California to find out why the Mojave has been spawning some of rock’s most original sounds for decades. Along the way, he discovers a landscape that’s every bit as wild and inspiring as the music it produces.
In this episode
What “desert rock” actually means—and how the Mojave Desert’s extreme heat, isolation, and silence forged a uniquely sun-baked, heavy sound that’s impossible to replicate anywhere else
The family tree of the genre: from Kyuss and Queens of the Stone Age to Fu Manchu and a sprawling network of bands centered around Joshua Tree and 29 Palms
The Mojave Experience, a two-day desert rock festival organized by Patrick Brink of the band Volume—and his plans to bring it back bigger next year
Why the California desert has drawn musicians, filmmakers, and creatives for decades: from Gram Parsons’ storied final days—and why Roc Gardner left New York to build a creative retreat called Escape in the desert
Where to go and what to do: Joshua Tree National Park, Pioneertown, Pappy & Harriet’s, generator parties under the stars, and why the area rewards a few slow days off the beaten path
Meet this week’s guests
Patrick Brink is the frontman of Volume, a desert rock band from 29 Palms, California. He organized the Mojave Experience, a two-day desert rock festival featuring Kyuss alumni and scene veterans, and plans to bring it back bigger in spring 2027.
Roc Gardner is a songwriter, entrepreneur, and the founder of Escape, a creative retreat for musicians, artists, filmmakers, and thought leaders set on the high desert outside Joshua Tree. A former New Yorker, Roc has hosted everyone from Usher to the Arctic Monkeys since opening.
Guest host Tim Chester is a freelance travel and culture writer who has spent the past 20 years exploring the world through the lens of music. His reporting has appeared in NME, Spin, and Afar, and his travels have taken him from Manhattan to Malawi and Beijing to Berlin in search of the festivals, scenes, and stories that reveal a city’s soul.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to the Desert
00:01:00 What Is Desert Rock?
00:02:00 Volume and the Mojave Experience
00:03:00 The Scene’s Family Tree
00:04:00 Isolation, Extremes, and the Desert Sound
00:05:30 Space, Dynamics, and the Mojave Aesthetic
00:06:00 Desert Spirituality: the Integratron and Giant Rock
00:07:00 Generator Parties and Local Radio
00:08:00 Rock and Roll History in the Desert
00:09:00 Roc Gardner and Escape
00:10:30 The Creative Pull of the High Desert
00:12:00 Why You Should Visit
A Music Fan’s Travel Guide to the California Desert
The high desert around Joshua Tree rewards slow travel. Most of the key spots are within easy reach of the town of Joshua Tree or 29 Palms. Here’s how to do it like a fan.
Start here: the essential stops
Joshua Tree National Park—a designated Dark Sky Park and one of the most visually distinctive landscapes in North America, where the Mojave and Colorado deserts meet. Hike, climb, and stay after dark for the stars.
Pioneertown—an original 1940s cowboy movie set built by Gene Autry and Roy Rogers, still largely intact and walkable.
The Integratron—a dome-shaped structure built by UFO enthusiast George Van Tassel in the 1950s. Book a sound bath and let the acoustics do their work.
Giant Rock—one of the largest freestanding boulders in the world, a sacred site for the Serrano people and a legendary UFO gathering spot in the 1950s. Earthless played an immense show here. It’s on YouTube.
Hear live music
Pappy & Harriet’s Pioneertown Palace—the legendary honky-tonk saloon and music venue a mile outside Pioneertown. Paul McCartney has played here. Capacity: 300 inside, 1,000 outside. If anyone serious is touring through the desert, they’re playing Pappy’s.
Local Show on Z107.7—Pat Kerns curates a two-hour showcase of local desert bands every Sunday on the area’s community radio station: folk, punk, spaced-out psychedelia, and everything in between.
The Mojave Experience—Patrick Brink’s desert rock festival, planned to return in spring 2027. Check the website for lineup and dates.
Stay and create
Escape—Roc Gardner’s creative retreat for musicians, artists, and anyone looking to swap city static for desert silence. Used by Usher, the Arctic Monkeys, and a long list of creatives.
Rancho de la Luna—the legendary desert recording studio that inspired Escape, used by artists across the rock spectrum for decades.
Go a little deeper
Desert rock playlist—check the show notes for a curated playlist featuring Queens of the Stone Age, Kyuss, Fu Manchu, Volume, Earthless, and more. Load it up for the drive in.
Gram Parsons shrine—the small shrine behind a rock in Joshua Tree National Park, marking where rock’s greatest cosmic cowboy spent his final days. Worth finding if you know where to look.
Generator parties—informal outdoor concerts powered by generators, a desert tradition going back decades. Check local listings for upcoming shows, especially in fall and winter.
Up next on Travel to Listen
Tim heads to Detroit to hear big news at the Motown Museum—and to find out what’s driving a musical renaissance in one of America’s most storied music cities. New episode in two weeks.
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| Feel-Good Friday: Australia’s Plastic Win, a Different Kind of Summit Story, and the Women Changing Safari | 12 juin 2026 | 00:16:38 | |
It’s Feel-Good Friday, when your Unpacked host (Aislyn) and producer (Nikki) get together to swap the stories making them feel good this week. And this week they're joined by Afar's director of photography, Michelle Heimerman. They share three stories that are making them feel optimistic this week.
Stories like...
Some genuinely good news for anyone who loves a beach: one of the world’s most beach-blessed countries has spent the past decade quietly turning the tide on plastic pollution — and the playbook is more doable than you’d think.
A high-altitude adventure that trades the summit selfie for something quieter and more lasting — proof that you can chase a punishing challenge purely for the experience, not the applause.
Meet the women rewriting who gets to lead a safari — and why the guides who didn’t grow up in the bush might just be the best ones behind the wheel.
Resources
Learn more about Bartek Ziemski
Read more about Australia's plastic decrease
Listen to the episode about ABC's female guiding program
The Afar Nepal cover shoot video
Ridwell, the recycling service
Chapters
Tune in every Friday through June for a fresh trio of stories from Afar’s favorite travel writers and editors. Be sure to subscribe to the show and sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode.
And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| What a Safari Looks Like When a Woman Is at the Wheel | 11 juin 2026 | 00:32:50 | |
What does a safari look like when the guide isn't a man? Award-winning writer and editor Ellen Carpenter went to Botswana's Okavango Delta to find out. (To learn more, read her Afar story about the experience.)
Meet this week's guests
Ellen Carpenter is a New York–based culture and travel journalist. She served as editor in chief of Hemispheres, United's inflight magazine, for seven years, and before that was an editor at Rhapsody, Nylon, Spin, and Rolling Stone.
Baemule "Bae" Siethuka, 32, grew up in Tutume in northeastern Botswana and was working in HR when she saw African Bush Camps' guiding program posted on Facebook. She became the program's first graduate in 2025 and is now a junior guide at Atzaró Okavango.
Tshidi Phalaagae, 28, is a trainee guide from Gaborone, Botswana's capital — a true city girl who came to the program with, in her words, "zero knowledge of nature." At the time of Ellen's visit, she was just a few weeks shy of graduating.
Jessica Motshegwa, 26, is a trainee guide from Mmadinare, Botswana, who joined the program in 2025. She once tried to enlist in the Botswana army. A Facebook link from her cousin changed her path.
In this episode you'll learn
Why more than 90 percent of African safari guides are male — and what one company is doing about it
How African Bush Camp(ABC)'s three-year female guiding program works, from theory exams to practical training to first solo drives
What it was like for Bae, ABC's first female guide, to complete her training while pregnant — and earn her license when her son was six months old
Why Dutch Kasale, ABC's head guide and mentor, says training women from the city is often easier than training men who grew up in the bush
What makes a female guide's approach on the game drive feel different
The moment Bae manifests a leopard into view
About African Bush Camps
ABC was founded in 2006 by Beks Ndlovu, one of a handful of Black Africans to own a safari company. He launched the female guiding program in late 2021 with an ambitious goal: 50 percent female guides across all 18 camps in Botswana, Zimbabwe, and Zambia by 2030. There are currently 12 women in the program — eight trainees and four qualified guides.
Chapters
00:00 — Into the Okavango
02:00 — The Case for Change
06:00 — Meet Tshidi
08:00 —Bae Siethuka Takes the Wheel
13:00 — Tracking the Leopard
16:00 — Inside the Program
21:00 — Bae's Big Moment
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| Feel-Good Friday: A Queer Dance Revolution, Dog-Friendly Hotels, and What Actually Makes You Happy | 05 juin 2026 | 00:17:16 | |
Welcome back to Feel-Good Fridays. This week, host Aislyn Greene and producer Nikki Galteland are joined by Afar executive editor Kathrine LaGrave—and the three of them are ready to carry you into the weekend a little lighter, with stories about line dancing, travel with your dog, and the surprisingly simple science of being happy.
The happy news
Country line dancing is having a queer renaissance. Kathrine shares the story of Stud Country, a New York–based group offering country dancing parties and classes rooted in queer cowboy culture—open to everyone, from regulars to curious first-timers.
It’s getting a whole lot easier to travel with your dog. Nikki reports that searches for pet-friendly travel are up year-over-year, and a new wave of hotels isn’t just tolerating four-legged guests—they’re actively celebrating them, with welcome treats, room amenities, dog spas, and yes, an official Director of Pet Relations.
Aislyn brings us back to Yale happiness researcher Laurie Santos, who went viral for teaching the most popular course in the university’s history—and whose 2026 take on happiness comes down to one thing: more friction, more connection, less optimization. Travel, she argues, is one of the best tools we still have for getting out of our own way.
Plus: a spirited debate about cowboy boot colors, a Yappy Hour proposal, and a vision for the ultimate Feel-Good Friday field trip—all dogs welcome.
CHAPTERS
00:00:00 Welcome to Feel-Good Friday
00:01:00 Boots, Belonging, and Stud Country
00:05:45 The Great Boot Color Debate
00:06:00 The Happiness Researcher You Need to Hear
00:10:00 Dogs Welcome: The New Pet-Friendly Hotel Era
00:14:30 Yappy Hour and Other Good Ideas
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| What My 96-Year-Old Grandmother Taught Me About Travel | 05 juin 2026 | 00:39:04 | |
What would happen if you called your grandmother out of the blue and asked her to go camping that night? For Brad Ryan, that impulsive phone call sparked a seven-year journey across all 63 U.S. national parks.
Along the way, he and Grandma Joy, now 96, healed old wounds, faced down lifelong fears, and became unlikely internet stars. Brad's new book, Grandma Joy and Me: A Journey of Healing One National Park at a Time, out June 16th, tells the whole story.
In this episode, Brad talks with host Aislyn Greene about what he witnessed in his grandmother over those years—the phenomenon he describes as reverse aging, the way movement and purpose and intergenerational connection seemed to make her healthier and more coordinated over time, not less.
He also reflects on the healing that happened in the car: the long stretches of road through South Dakota, the yellow line hypnosis, the conversations that finally surfaced after years of silence. And he shares what he learned writing the book: about his father, about his family's Irish roots, and about what it means to find pride in an imperfect lineage.
In this episode
Why Brad made the call—and what was happening in his life that led him there
What Joy said when he pitched 63 parks
How road trips create the conditions for conversations that can't happen anywhere else
What the national parks offer as a place for connection across every kind of divide
Grandma Joy's relationship with fear—near-drowning as a child, white-water rafting in Alaska at 90
Why Brad thinks the loneliness crisis among older Americans is something the parks could actually help address
Resources
Grandma Joy and Me: A Journey of Healing One National Park at a Time by Brad Ryan, out June 16th
Read the Afar story about Brad and Joy
Follow Brad and Grandma Joy on Instagram
Check out Brad and Grandma Joy's summer 2026 book tour (stops in Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, Washington, Oregon, and California)
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| Travel to Listen: The City That Made Prince | 02 juin 2026 | 00:20:10 | |
Welcome to "Travel to Listen," a new Unpacked series hosted by veteran music journalist Tim Chester. Over four episodes rolling out every other week, Tim takes us into the cities where music is more than entertainment—it's the shortcut to a place's soul.
This week, he heads to Minneapolis to hear how a community center, a cold climate, and a once-in-a-generation genius combined to create one of the most distinctive sounds in American music, plus how the city is celebrating a decade since Prince's passing.
In this episode
How the Minneapolis sound emerged from the Great Migration, housing segregation, rock radio, and a community center called The Way, where a teenage Prince jammed alongside Morris Day and Terry Lewis
Why Paul Peterson (dubbed St. Paul by Prince himself) believes the Minneapolis sound is joyous, funky, and built to last, and how his supergroup, the Minneapolis Funk All-Stars, is carrying it forward
The story of historian Kristen Zschomler: how grief over Prince's death led her to track 50+ locations across Minneapolis where he lived, worked, and recorded, and her ongoing mission to get them on the National Register of Historic Places
What Prince mastered at his childhood home in North Minneapolis. Plus, why Sound 80, the studio where he cut his first demo tapes at 19, was the launchpad for everything that followed
How to experience Minneapolis in 2026: from Paisley Park to First Avenue, Bunkers Music Bar to the Dakota, and the five-day Prince Celebration festival in June marking the 10th anniversary of Prince's death
Meet this week's guests
Paul Peterson is a musician, songwriter, and former Prince collaborator, dubbed "St. Paul" by the Purple One himself. He was a member of The Time and The Family, appeared in Purple Rain, and is now the leader of the Minneapolis Funk All-Stars, an all-star alumni supergroup dedicated to keeping the Minneapolis sound alive.
Kristen Zschomler is a historian and co-founder of the International Center 4 Prince Studies. She gives guided tours of Prince's Minneapolis and created Sound Around Tours, a self-guided audio tour app. She has researched and documented over 50 locations tied to Prince's life and work, and has successfully advocated for two of them to be added to the National Register of Historic Places.
Guest host Tim Chester is a freelance travel and culture writer who has spent the past 20 years exploring the world through the lens of music. His reporting has appeared in NME, Spin, and Afar, and his travels have taken him from Manhattan to Malawi and Beijing to Berlin in search of the festivals, scenes, and stories that reveal a city’s soul.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Minneapolis
00:01:00 The Minneapolis Funk All-Stars
00:03:45 Music as Healing
00:06:45 What Made Minneapolis a Crucible
00:09:30 The Way and the Scene's Roots
00:12:45 Prince's Landmarks
00:15:30 Celebrating a Decade Since Prince
A Music Fan's Travel Guide to Minneapolis
Minneapolis is a walkable city with a thriving live music scene, and the landmarks of the Minneapolis sound are spread across a compact, navigable footprint. Here's how to do it like a fan.
Start here: the essential stops
Paisley Park—Prince's home, recording complex, and creative sanctuary in Chanhassen, just outside the city. Now a museum and events venue.
Prince's childhood home—the North Minneapolis house where he mastered the piano, decoded albums note by note, and became Prince.
Sound 80 Studios—the recording studio where a 19-year-old Prince cut the demo tapes that landed him his Warner Brothers contract.
First Avenue—the venue Prince made famous in Purple Rain (he also recorded the song there, performing it live for the first time on that stage).
Hear live music
Bunkers Music Bar & Grill—the historic North Loop spot where Dr. Mambo's Combo plays every Sunday and Monday night.
The Dakota—an intimate downtown jazz club with a packed calendar every night of the week.
The Green Room—the venue where St. Paul and the Minneapolis Funk All Stars frequently play
Plan for June
Celebration 2026—the annual Prince estate event runs June 3–7 this year as a five-day gathering with concerts, dance parties, and unseen footage. The International Center 4 Prince Studies has programming June 1–2 as well, and a new community museum opening in North Minneapolis that flips the curatorial lens: instead of Prince's instruments, it collects the stories of the people he touched.
Artists to watch
L.A. Buckner and Big Homie
David Feily
Cory Wong
Dylan Salfer
Chris Lawrence
Alex Rossi
Nur-D
Nunnabove
Up next on Travel to Listen
Tim heads to Southern California to explore the spacey, grungy desert rock scene—and to find out there's a lot more to the region than Coachella. New episode in two weeks.
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| Feel-Good Friday: A Road Trip, a Public Health Win, and the Great Millennial Song Debate | 29 mai 2026 | 00:13:19 | |
Welcome back to Feel-Good Fridays. This week, host Aislyn Greene and producer Nikki Galteland are bringing you a special road trip edition — recorded live from the car somewhere in the forests of Michigan, microphones balanced on laps and sunscreen close at hand.
It’s a two-story episode today, and both come straight from the headlines of everyday life:
Sunscreen use is up worldwide — and it’s not just public health messaging that’s doing it. Better formulas, the global influence of Korean and Japanese skincare, and a generational shift in sun-safety habits all play a role. Nikki and Aislyn dig into the data, swap their favorite SPF picks, and make the case for hand cream on road trips.
The millennial song debate: NPR music journalists went looking for the one track that defines a generation, and landed on...well, we can't reveal that. But Aislyn and Nikki compare notes (Evanescence, No Doubt, Usher, J.Lo all make appearances), and share a playlist to soundtrack your own summer drive. Tell us your pick.
Tune in every Friday through June for a fresh trio of stories from Afar’s favorite travel writers and editors. We’ll see you next week.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Feel-Good Fridays (On the Road Edition)
00:01:00 Sunscreen Use Is Up — Here’s Why That’s a Big Deal
00:04:30 SPF Picks for the Road
00:05:30 The Millennial Song Debate
00:08:00 Why “Paper Planes” Won
00:09:30 Closing Out the Era: “I Love It”
00:10:30 Our Personal Millennial Anthems
Stay Connected
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| Feel-Good Friday: A Hidden India, a Celebrity Elephant, and the Future of California Wine | 22 mai 2026 | 00:14:57 | |
Welcome back to Feel-Good Friday. Every Friday through the end of June, Unpacked is popping into your feed with a brand-new series designed to carry you into the weekend a little lighter. Each episode, host Aislyn Greene and producer Nikki Galteland are joined by a different Afar staffer to share three travel stories that made them smile, tear up (in a good way), or rethink what's possible. Funny, inspiring, heartwarming—the only rule is no downers.
This week, we're joined by Afar's deputy editor, Jennifer Flowers, and the three of us travel from the Himalayan foothills to the African savanna to the rolling hills of Sonoma. Together, we share:
A corner of northern India that's quietly becoming a model for sustainable tourism, with tourism up 60 percent since 2018 and a network of community-run homestays that let you walk between guesthouses through pine and oak forests.
The story of Craig, a celebrity super tusker elephant whose long, peaceful life in the wild is itself a conservation victory, and what his legacy says about decades of work in Kenya's Amboseli ecosystem
A Sonoma incubator quietly rewriting who gets to make California wine, with one-of-a-kind small-batch bottlings to look out for from Leap of Grapes, Ward 4 Wines, and Mad Marvlus
Tune in every Friday through June for a fresh trio of stories from Afar's favorite travel writers and editors. We'll see you next week.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Feel-Good Friday
00:01:00 Sustainable Tourism in Uttarakhand
00:04:00 Meet Craig the Super Tusker
00:06:30 A Conservation Win for the Wild
00:09:30 Down a California Wine Rabbit Hole
00:11:20 The Vanguard of Small-Batch Wine
Stay Connected
Be sure to subscribe to the show and sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| Travel to Listen: Why This Southern City Is America's Most Underrated Music Town | 19 mai 2026 | 00:24:20 | |
Welcome to Travel to Listen, a new Unpacked series hosted by veteran music journalist Tim Chester. Over four episodes rolling out every other week, Tim takes us into the cities where music is more than entertainment—it’s the shortcut to a place’s soul. This week, he goes to the source in Macon: meet the people keeping the city’s legendary songbook alive, and find out why a trip here might be the most soulful detour you’ve never considered.
In this episode
How the Macon Music Revue transforms songs by Little Richard, the Allman Brothers, and R.E.M. into something new—without losing what made them legendary
Why Charles Davis believes there’s “something in the water” in Macon—and how the city’s Indigenous roots may be part of its musical soul
The story behind the new Otis Redding Center for the Arts: from a 1965 music camp at Otis’s ranch to a full museum and education hub that opened in March 2025
What visitors to Macon often don’t know about Otis Redding—the savvy businessman, devoted family man, and farmer who owned cows, chickens, and horses
Where to eat, drink, and hear live music in Macon: from Capricorn Sound Studios to H&H Soul Food, where the Allman Brothers ate when they were broke
Meet this week's guests
Charles Davis is the frontman of the Macon Music Revue, a band that reinterprets the city’s iconic catalog with a soul-forward sound all their own. A longtime Macon radio voice, Charles is one of the city’s most active stewards of its musical legacy.
Justin Andrews is the director of special projects and outreach at the Otis Redding Foundation, and the grandson of soul legend Otis Redding. He helped bring the Otis Redding Center for the Arts to life when it opened in March 2025.
Guest host Tim Chester is a freelance travel and culture writer who has spent the past 20 years exploring the world through the lens of music. His reporting has appeared in NME, Spin, and Afar, and his travels have taken him from Manhattan to Malawi and Beijing to Berlin in search of the festivals, scenes, and stories that reveal a city’s soul.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Macon
00:01:15 Inside the Macon Music Revue
00:04:15 Something in the Water
00:06:15 A Tour Through Southern Rock
00:09:45 H&H Soul Food and the Allman Brothers
00:10:30 Otis Redding’s Vision Comes Home
00:13:45 The Man Behind the Music
00:15:00 Where to Hear Otis in Macon
A Music Fan's Travel Guide to Macon
Macon is walkable, the downtown is compact, and most of the music landmarks sit within a few square miles. Here’s how to do it like a fan.
Start here: the essential stops
Capricorn Sound Studios & Museum—the birthplace of Southern rock.
The Allman Brothers Band Museum at the Big House—the Tudor-style house where Duane, Gregg, Berry Oakley, and their families lived from 1970 to 1973.
The Otis Redding Museum—View plane tickets, telegrams, the briefcase from the wreckage, and pictures pulled from Zelma Redding’s personal archive.
The Otis Redding Center for the Arts (ORCA)—The newest piece of the puzzle, opened March 2025: a youth music education hub, the O3 Recording Studio, and the outdoor Zelma Redding Amphitheater, where a bronze statue of Otis now welcomes visitors.
Hear live music
Grant’s Lounge—the historic dive that served as an audition spot for Capricorn Records.
The Douglas Theatre—built in 1921 as a venue for African American performers during segregation, and where a teenage Otis Redding won the teen talent competition so many times the organizers asked him to stop entering.
Hargray Capitol Theatre—a beautifully restored downtown venue that brings in touring acts across genres.
Eat and drink like a local
H&H Soul Food—the legendary downtown spot started by Mama Louise and Mama Inez, who fed the Allman Brothers when they were broke.
The Rookery—Get the burger, stay for the music, and listen for the Otis Redding song that always seems to be playing when you walk in.
Go a little deeper
Rock Candy Tours—weekly guided walking tours that connect the dots between the studios, homes, and venues.
The Macon Music Trail—a self-guided trail of 43+ music sites with a free companion mobile app, including the Little Richard House and Rose Hill Cemetery, where Duane Allman and Berry Oakley are buried.
The Macon Music Revue (Terminus Records, 2024)—listen to Charles’s reinterpretations of “Losing My Religion,” “Stand Back,” and more. themaconmusicrevue.com
Up next on Travel to Listen
Tim heads to Minneapolis to get bright and bouncy with the city’s funk scene—and to hear how the city is planning to mark the 10th anniversary of Prince’s untimely passing. New episode in two weeks.
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| Feel-Good Friday: Pottery, a History-Making Pilot, and a Salmon Race Worth Following | 15 mai 2026 | 00:15:14 | |
Welcome back to Feel-Good Fridays!
Every Friday through the end of June, Unpacked is popping into your feed with a brand-new series designed to carry you into the weekend a little lighter. In each episode, host Aislyn Greene and producer Nikki Galteland are joined by a different Afar staffer to share three travel stories that made them smile, tear up (in a good way), or rethink what’s possible. Funny, inspiring, heartwarming—the only rule is no downers.
This week, they’re joined by Afar’s editorial director, Billie Cohen, and the trio covers all the elements: water, sky, and land. Together, they share:
A Pacific Northwest conservation project that turns one of nature’s most epic journeys into something you can actually root for, fish by fish
The pilot who spent more than 50 years chasing a childhood dream—and just made history at one of the country’s biggest airlines
A weekend tradition in rural Minnesota where you can follow hand-painted signs from studio to studio, and the Estonian summer ritual Billie shared in a recent Travel Tale.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Feel-Good Friday
00:01:00 Rooting for Baby Salmon
00:05:00 United’s First Female Captain
00:08:30 Quirky Local Trail Season
00:10:30 Open Cafés in Estonia
(00:00) Welcome to Feel-Good Friday
(01:00) Rooting for Baby Salmon
(05:00) United’s First Female Captain
(08:30) Quirky Local Trail Season
(10:30) Open Cafés in Estonia
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| Towing With an EV: What Hundreds of Miles Down the Oregon Coast Taught Us | 14 mai 2026 | 00:14:49 | |
In last week's episode, host Aislyn Greene shared the story of towing a 20-foot Airstream down the Oregon coast in an all-electric Rivian truck — the campsite mishaps, the strangers who became friends, the joy of slow travel. This week, she's back with the practical guide: how an EV road trip actually works when you're towing, and what to know before you try one yourself.
Aislyn sits down with Sara Eslinger, who heads up Rivian's Adventure Network, to talk about how the company has been quietly building fast-charging infrastructure in the places EV drivers actually want to go — not just along interstates, but on the edge of Death Valley, outside Yellowstone, along the Blue Ridge Parkway, and yes, all along Oregon's Highway 101.
They get into why 70 percent of Adventure Network sites are trailer-friendly, how the built-in trip planner factors in elevation, heat, and trailer weight, and why Rivian tested its charging bays with an Airstream.
Then Aislyn shares the five things she wishes she'd known before hitching up — from how much range to expect when towing, to the adapter you need to charge overnight at a campsite, to the trailer mirrors that will change your life.
Whether you're EV-curious, RV-curious, or just love a good road trip, this one's a window into how the infrastructure for adventure travel is changing — and how much easier it's getting to take the scenic route.
Chapters
00:00:00 Bonus Episode Setup
00:01:08 Inside Rivian's Adventure Network
00:03:15 Why the Trip Planner Works
00:05:08 Towing-Friendly by Design
00:06:50 Five Things to Know Before You Tow
00:09:25 The Verdict and What's Next
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| Feel-Good Fridays: A New Series for Brighter Weekends | 08 mai 2026 | 00:15:00 | |
Welcome to Feel-Good Fridays.
Every Friday from now through the end of June, Unpacked is popping into your feed with a brand-new series designed to carry you into the weekend a little lighter. Each episode, host Aislyn Greene and producer Nikki Galteland are joined by a different Afar staffer to share three travel stories that made them smile, tear up (in a good way), or rethink what's possible. Funny, inspiring, heartwarming—the only rule is no downers.
For our debut episode, we're joined by Afar's Michelle Baran, who brings her own dose of feel-good to the mic. Together, the three of them share:
– A celebrated food writer's reintroduction to her own hometown, and what travel can teach us about grief, grace, and seeing familiar streets with new eyes
– A long-awaited transit milestone in a famously car-bound American city—and what it could mean for one of the world's biggest upcoming sporting events
– A Vienna café where the pastries come with a side of intergenerational wisdom (and the bakers might just remind you of your own grandmother)
Plus: a childhood alter ego involving wigs, doorbells, and a traveling comedy duo we did not see coming.
Tune in every Friday through June for a fresh trio of stories from Afar's favorite travel writers and editors. We'll see you next week.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to Feel-Good Friday
00:01:30 A Food Writer Rediscovers Her City
00:04:30 LA Finally Builds the Train
00:09:00 The Grandmas of Vienna
00:12:30 A Childhood Story We Had to Share
Resources
– Yewande Komolafe's writing for The New York Times
– LA Metro's D Line extension (opened May 2026)
– Vollpension, the granny-run bakery and café in Vienna
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And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| We Towed an Airstream Down the Oregon Coast Using an Electric Truck. Here's What Happened. | 07 mai 2026 | 00:33:53 | |
What happens when the person who knows how to tow has to leave — and you're left with a 5,000-pound Airstream, an electric truck, and 800 miles of Oregon coast ahead of you?
On this episode of Unpacked, host Aislyn Greene shares the story of the eight-day road trip she and her wife Jeannie took down the Oregon coast in August — towing an Airstream Basecamp 20 XE with a Rivian Tri-Motor R1T, with exactly zero towing experience between them.
What was supposed to be a fully sustainable cycling-and-camping trip with friends became a crash course in trailer physics, EV charging, and the unexpected generosity of the RV community.
In this episode you'll learn
How Aislyn and her partner, Jeannie, went from zero towing experience to navigating a 5,000-pound Airstream down 500 miles of Oregon coast—and what actually made it possible
The RV community secret nobody tells first-timers: once you've parked, everyone sits back and watches you do it
Why the Rivian R1T's onboard charging calculator made range anxiety a non-issue, even towing a trailer across eight charging stops
What Fort Stevens, Nehalem Bay, Cape Lookout, and Sunset Bay State Park each taught them about slowing down and asking for help
The case for traveling in a way that forces you to rely on strangers—and why it felt especially powerful right now
Plan your own Oregon coast trip
Stay at the campgrounds we loved: Fort Stevens State Park, Nehalem Bay State Park, Cape Lookout State Park , and Bay Point Landing in Coos Bay. For your sunset swim: Sunset Bay State Park, south of Coos Bay.
Plan your Oregon trip with Afar's Oregon guide.
Read more about Afar's guide to road trips, including EV trips
Borrow or rent a Rivian R1T and explore the Rivian Adventure Network — many sites along Highway 101 are designed for trailer-friendly pull-throughs.
Tow an Airstream Basecamp 20 XE — Airstream's small, off-grid-friendly trailer built in partnership with REI.
Chapters
00:00:00 The Plan vs. The Reality
00:03:30 Picking Up the Airstream Alone
00:06:10 First Drive on the Highway
00:08:30 Our First Parking Angel
00:11:00 The Nehalem Bay Disaster
00:14:30 Cape Lookout, Finally
00:18:30 A Bolt Falls Out
00:20:30 Why the Rivian Was the Hero
00:23:30 Sunset Bay
00:25:30 Coming Home
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| Unpacked, Five Questions: Why This Photographer Spent Four Weeks in the Egyptian Desert | 28 avr. 2026 | 00:23:30 | |
Welcome to Unpacked, Five Questions, a podcast that takes you behind the scenes of one great travel story. In this episode, host and executive editor Katherine LaGrave sits down with documentary photographer Nathalie Mohadjer, whose images of the desert oasis of Siwa appear in Afar's winter 2026 issue.
For four weeks in Siwa, an ancient town some 450 miles from Cairo, Nathalie traded the typical three-day shoot for a slower kind of immersion — sharing breakfasts in the old town, spending afternoons with a local woman named Fatima, and bathing in a hidden cold spring with her family's kids.
She talks with Katherine about photographing a community where Siwan women are rarely seen by outsiders, why patience and respect matter more than the camera itself, and how losing your sense of time in the desert can change the way you see a place. She also shares advice for travelers heading to Siwa — and the one moment she chose not to capture.
Meet this week's guest
Nathalie Mohadjer is a German-Iranian documentary photographer based in Paris whose work has appeared in the New York Times, Monocle, and Le Monde.
Episode highlights
How a stranger waving from a window in Siwa's ruins led to weeks of access to a local family's home, kitchen, and hidden swimming spots
Why Nathalie spent nearly four weeks in Siwa — and what that kind of time reveals about a place that most visitors see in three or four days
The ethics and art of photographing people in other cultures: when to put the camera away, and how to earn the moment rather than take it
What makes Siwa's community so distinct from the rest of Egypt — and the Berber and Tuareg roots that shape its culture
Nathalie's practical advice for travelers heading to Siwa: slow down, talk to strangers, and don't be afraid to follow an unexpected invitation
Links & resources
Follow Nathalie Mohadjer on Instagram
Explore her visual story about Siwa, Egypt on Afar
Explore her photographs of Oman in her first Afar feature
Chapters
00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:00 Arriving in Siwa
00:09:00 Meeting Fatima
00:17:00 Photographing with Patience
00:24:00 Timelessness and Culture
00:30:00 Advice for Travelers
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| Forget the Algorithm. Here's How to Actually Eat Well When You Travel. | 16 avr. 2026 | 00:43:02 | |
Jennifer Hope Choi plans every trip the same way: open a Google doc, start with food, and build outward from there. As a former Bon Appétit editor, 13-year restaurant industry veteran, and author of a travel memoir, she has strong opinions about Michelin guides (skip ‘em), low-rated restaurants (sometimes worth it), and why you should always follow your optician's food recs.
She also edited Afar’s debut Travel to Eat series, which includes three stories: Jeju black pork and a life-changing soup, Sherpa cuisine in the Rockies, and why Portland, Maine, might be America’s best bakery town.
Meet today's guest
Jennifer Hope Choi is a senior editor at Afar and the architect of its Travel to Eat series. A former Bon Appétit editor and 13-year restaurant industry veteran, she is also an award-winning writer and author of the travel memoir the Wanderer’s Curse. Her work spans food and culture, and the messy, joyful overlap between the two.
In this episode
How Jen’s latchkey childhood, early Food Network shows, and her Korean grandmother’s pancakes shaped a lifelong obsession with eating
Why the Google doc comes first: Jen’s method for building food-forward itineraries from Reddit threads, local papers, and stranger recommendations
The case against Michelin stars, lines around the block, and treating a trip like a personality — and what to do instead
Inside the three stories of Afar’s Travel to Eat series: a transcendent bowl of Jeju black pork soup, Sherpa cuisine taking root in the Colorado Rockies, and the baking scene quietly transforming Portland, Maine
Jen’s #1 travel food tip: ask the shop clerk, not the algorithm
Links & resources
Read the Travel to eat series: America's best bakery town, a life-changing pork soup, and the rise of Sherpa cuisine in the Colorado Rockies
Read Jen's memoir, The Wanderer’s Curse
Follow Jen on Instagram
Read MFK Fisher's The Art of Eating, Jen’s favorite food book
Chapters
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:30 Growing Up Food-Obsessed
00:06:30 How to Eat Your Way Through a City
00:11:30 Lists, Stars, and Letting Go
00:21:30 The Travel to Eat Series
00:30:00 Tips for Eating Well on the Road
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| The Joyful Instrument That Became the Sound of Hawai'i | 14 avr. 2026 | 00:19:56 | |
It started as an abandoned ukulele on a wall. Afar’s Aislyn Greene hadn’t touched it in two years — but that idle instrument sent her down a rabbit hole into one of the most joyful origin stories in music. The ukulele arrived in Hawai'i on a Portuguese immigrant ship in 1878, got a royal endorsement from a king and queen, fell into obscurity, and then took over the world. Along the way, a family of master craftsmen has been hand-finishing every instrument for over a century, and one of the greatest string players alive still can’t believe people underestimate it.
Meet today's guests
Roy Sakuma is a musician, educator, and founder of Roy Sakuma Ukulele Studios, Hawaii’s most famous ukulele school with four locations. In 1971, he launched the Ukulele Festival Hawai'i, now the state’s top summer event, and has spent 50 years making the case that the ukulele is no toy.
Chris Kamaka is the third-generation owner of Kamaka Ukulele, the oldest continuous ukulele manufacturer in the world, founded in Honolulu in 1916. Each of the 1,000–1,500 ukuleles they produce annually is hand-played by Chris before it leaves the shop.
Jake Shimabukuro is a virtuoso musician widely regarded as the greatest ukulele player alive. He has sold out concert halls worldwide and recently collaborated with Mick Fleetwood on a Blues album.
In this episode
How Portuguese immigrants and Hawaiian royalty together created — and named — the ukulele
Why Kamaka Hawai'i still air-dries koa wood for up to six years before touching it
How Roy Sakuma’s free Ukulele Festival in 1971 sparked a global revival from his backyard
Jake Shimabukuro on recording a tribute to Christine McVie with Mick Fleetwood — and why low expectations are a gift
What it’s actually like to take a ukulele lesson from Roy Sakuma (Aislyn finds out live on mic)
Resources
Listen to Afar's ukulele playlist
Sign up for lessons at Roy Sakuma Ukulele Studios
Explore the instruments at Kamaka Ukulele
Listen to the music of Jake Shimabukuro
Visit the Ukulele Festival Hawai'i
Chapters
00:00:00 The Ukulele's Origins
00:02:00 Hawaii's Royal Endorsement
00:03:30 Inside the Kamaka Workshop
00:06:00 Roy Sakuma and the Festival
00:09:30 Jake Shimabukuro's Journey
00:13:00 A Lesson With Roy
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| How Two Years of Phone-Free Travel Rewired the Way I See the World | 09 avr. 2026 | 00:45:37 | |
What if the secret to a great trip was leaving your phone in airplane mode — forever? Journalist Lisa Abend has been doing exactly that, arriving in cities she's never researched, GPS turned off, without a hotel reservation or itinerary of any kind. The result isn't chaos; it's the kind of travel that actually surprises you. In this episode, Lisa makes a compelling case for leaving the phone out of the travel process.
Meet this week's guest
Lisa Abend is a Copenhagen-based journalist and former Time magazine correspondent who covers food, culture, and travel across Europe. She is the creator of The Unplugged Traveler, a Substack newsletter in which she visits a new European city each month without internet access, a booked hotel, or a plan, and writes about what she finds.
In this episode
How social media and over-researched itineraries have stripped travel of serendipity, and what Lisa is doing about it
The step-by-step logistics of arriving in a foreign city with no hotel, no map, and no plan — and why it's less stressful than it sounds
A birthday coincidence on a Cotswolds hiking trail that felt like the universe intervening
Why "second cities" — not capitals — are the ideal places to try unplugged travel for the first time
How nearly two dozen phone-free trips have changed the way Lisa navigates daily life
Chapters
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:00 Backpacking Before the Internet
00:04:30 What the Internet Took From Travel
00:09:30 The Unplugged Traveler Newsletter
00:13:00 How to Choose a Destination
00:15:30 Arriving With No Hotel Booked
00:20:00 A Cotswolds Birthday Surprise
00:27:00 Finding Food Without the Lists
00:32:00 Travel as Meditation
00:35:30 Tips for Going Unplugged
Resources
Subscribe to Lisa's The Unplugged Traveler newsletter on Substack
Read Lisa's travel stories for Afar
Use Skyscanner — flight search tool Lisa uses to find cheap fares
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| In the Age of AI, This Is What Only a Travel Advisor Can Do | 02 avr. 2026 | 00:41:06 | |
You've got more booking tools than ever — so why would you hire a travel advisor? In this episode, Afar editorial director Billie Cohen sits down with travel journalist and matchmaker Wendy Perrin, founder of wendyperrin.com, to answer the questions travelers actually have: What can an advisor do that you can't do yourself? When does it make sense — and when doesn't it? How do you find a good one, interview them, and understand what you're paying for?
From crowd-skipping at Venice to landing the perfect Egyptologist, Wendy makes the case for what truly expert trip planning looks like.
In this episode
Why connections (not booking tools or AI) are the real currency of great travel
The difference between advisors who specialize in you vs. those who specialize in a place
How to interview a travel advisor (and what their answers reveal)
What travel actually costs — and why it often isn't itemized
Why multi-gen trips and post-pandemic travel are driving a new wave of advisor use
Chapters
00:00:00 Why Travel Advisors Still Matter
00:03:00 Advisors vs. Agents vs. Tour Operators
00:06:00 What a Great Advisor Can Do
00:13:00 Choosing and Interviewing an Advisor
00:24:00 Fees, Costs, and Transparency
00:28:00 Cruise Specialists and Misconceptions
00:33:00 Who's Using Advisors Now
Links & resources
Wendyperrin.com and Wendy's Wow List of top trip designers
Listen to our Unpacked episode about cruise travel advisors
Explore the Afar Travel Advisory Council
Follow Afar at @afarmedia on Instagram and TikTok
More travel planning resources at afar.com
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| An Architect's California: From LA's Secret Garden to the Magic of Joshua Tree | 27 mars 2026 | 00:46:59 | |
This is a very special episode of Unpacked by Afar. This week, we hosted Unpacked Live — a live version of the podcast — in partnership with Visit California in Dallas, Texas. The event celebrated California's extraordinary creative landscape, and today's guest has been shaping the way Californians live, work, and gather for three decades.
Barbara Bestor is the founder of Bestor Architecture, a Los Angeles studio she's led since 1995 — at a time when very few women were doing so. Her work spans coffee shops and corporate headquarters, wineries and community music centers, private homes and historic restorations. She's on the AD 100 list of top architects and designers and has been called one of the most influential architects working in LA today.
In this episode, she shares her process, her influences, and the places in California that never stop inspiring her — from a former cult compound in Joshua Tree to a secret rooftop garden at Walt Disney Concert Hall.
On this episode, you'll learn:
• What "informal formalism" means — and why it's the best description of California's design DNA
• How the LA fires, post-COVID remote work, and multi-generational households are reshaping what people want from their homes
• Why adaptive reuse is finally having its moment in California
• How to actually crack the code on Ojai and Big Sur (hint: find the vegan restaurant and ask your server)
Travel recommendations from Barbara:
Los Angeles
Take the stairs at LA Phil to the rooftop garden
Walk the Bradbury Building lobby (free; you'll recognize it from Blade Runner), then cross to Grand Central Market and ride Angel's Flight back up to MOCA.
For neighborhoods: Melrose Hill is the current place to be; Magnolia and Victory Blvd in the Valley are time-capsule California.
Northern California
Stay in the original Charles Moore–designed Condominium One at Sea Ranch
In the Bay Area, stay at the Julia Morgan–designed Berkeley City Club
Ojai & Big Sur
In Ojai, go to a vegan restaurant and ask your server where to go — that's how you find the hidden hot springs.
Hotel El Roblar (designed by Ramin Shamshiri) is the new splurge hotel in Ojai.
In Big Sur, Nepenthe is the move: a Wright-influenced 1950s restaurant with a giant patio and sweeping views.
Joshua Tree
Drive in from the top and exit at the low desert — two completely different biomes.
Stay at the Institute of Mentalphysics, where the rooms were designed by Lloyd Wright, the son of Frank Lloyd Wright
Catch a show at Pappy and Harriet's in Pioneertown, then detour to Palm Springs and take the Sunnylands tour for "peak high-sixties modernist golf living."
Chapters
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:00 From Cambridge to California
00:04:00 What Informal Formalism Means
00:06:00 Designing for How We Live Now
00:09:00 California's Architectural Legacy
00:16:00 LA Neighborhoods Worth Exploring
00:23:00 An Architecture Tour of California
00:34:00 Joshua Tree and the Desert
00:39:00 Where Barbara Goes to Recharge
Resources
Bestor Architecture
Explore the Afar guide to California
Watch the live recording of our Dallas event on YouTube.
Listen to our other Unpacked Live episodes featuring Roderick Wyllie and Obi Kaufmann.
Be sure to subscribe to the show and sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| The Naturalist Who's Been Decoding—and Painting—California's Wild Spaces for 30 Years | 27 mars 2026 | 00:51:54 | |
This is a very special episode of Unpacked by Afar. This week, we hosted Unpacked Live — a live version of the podcast — in partnership with Visit California in Dallas, Texas. The event celebrated California's extraordinary creative landscape, and today's guest is one of its most original voices.
Obi Kaufmann is a naturalist, writer, and illustrator whose California Field Atlas series has redefined what a nature book can be. His books — filled with hand-painted watercolor maps, poetry, and decades of ecological research — don't tell you where to go or what you're looking at. They ask why the landscape works the way it does, and what it means to truly belong to a place.
In this episode, Obi talks about growing up exploring Mount Diablo in Northern California, what makes a field atlas, and why he believes the future of California conservation depends on better poetry.
On this episode, you'll learn:
What a "field atlas" is — and why Obi had to invent the genre himself
How Indigenous stewardship and traditional ecological knowledge are reshaping conservation in California
Why Obi, one of California's great wilderness writers, is a proud city dweller in Oakland
What to expect from his next three books
Where to go right now to experience California's wildflower season at its peak
Travel Recommendations from Obi:
Anza-Borrego Desert State Park — Keep your eye on the California Native Plant Society or CalFlora for super bloom alerts; the window can be as short as a week
Death Valley National Park — Another prime super bloom destination; timing is everything
Big Sur — Highway 1 is open again; Obi recommends climbing a mountain and watching for California condors, which have rebounded from just 17 individuals in 1987 to over 500 today
Pinnacles National Park — The smallest and least visited national park in California, with condor sightings along the High Peaks Trail; Obi calls it "a beautiful gem of wilderness"
Mount Diablo — Obi's home mountain, 25 miles east of San Francisco; a lifelong study in ecological wonder
Chapters
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:00 Growing Up on Mount Diablo
00:05:00 Inventing the Field Atlas
00:10:00 Conservation and the Word "Wilderness"
00:30:00 Living as an Urban Naturalist
00:37:00 What's Next: Books 7 Through 10
00:41:00 Where to Experience California Now
Resources
Obi Kaufmann's website and books
Explore the Afar guide to California
Watch the live recording of our Dallas event on YouTube
Listen to our other Unpacked Live episodes featuring architect Barbara Bestor and landscape designer Roderick Wyllie
Be sure to subscribe to the show and sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| He's Been Designing California's Outdoors for Decades. Here's What He's Learned. | 27 mars 2026 | 00:47:13 | |
This is a very special episode of Unpacked by Afar. This week, we hosted Unpacked Live — a live version of the podcast — in partnership with Visit California in Dallas, Texas. The event celebrated California's extraordinary creative landscape, and today's guest has literally shaped the ground beneath many Californian's feet.
Roderick Wyllie is an award-winning landscape architect and founding partner of Surfacedesign Inc. A rare San Francisco native, he's helped design some of the Bay Area's most beloved public spaces, including the Lands End Visitor Center above Sutro Baths, a plaza at the Golden Gate Bridge, and Mission Bayfront Park. He also teaches at the Harvard Graduate School of Design.
In this episode, Roderick talks about growing up in 1970s San Francisco, what it means to design with rather than against a place, and why he thinks California's greatest creative export might be optimism.
On this episode, you'll learn:
What it was like to grow up in San Francisco in the 1970s and 80s — and how that "wild frontier" shaped Roderick's creative practice
Why Surfacedesign approaches every project like a crime scene investigation, searching for the story embedded in the land
How Roderick thinks about water — both as a design tool and as a precious resource in a drought-prone state
What he's learning from a current winery rethink at the iconic Robert Mondavi Winery in Napa
Where he sends travelers who want to experience California through the lens of landscape and design
Travel Recommendations from Roderick:
Wineries & Gardens
Faust, Napa Valley — A Victorian estate with planting designed to move from light to dark, inspired by the mythology of Faust; beautiful valley views
Buena Vista Winery, Sonoma — One of California's most historically significant wine sites, beautifully sited with two landmark historic buildings
Scribe, Sonoma — A more informal, less precious winery experience; Roderick especially admires the landscape work by Terramoto
Ruth Bancroft Garden, Walnut Creek — A masterwork dry garden celebrating the succulent landscape; Roderick calls it "spectacular"
Lotusland, Montecito — A fantasy of a California landscape with a larger-than-life history; the opera singer founder married nine times
The Huntington, San Marino/Pasadena — Impeccably maintained, a spectacular garden destination
Parks & Natural Spaces
Golden Gate Park, San Francisco — "It always feels a little bigger than I think it's going to be"
Point Reyes / Inverness — Roderick's favorite stretch of coast, particularly for seeing tule elk in the fog
Blunk Space gallery, Point Reyes Station — A small gallery connected to the legacy of California sculptor JB Blunk
Restaurants & Markets
Valley Bar + Bottle, Sonoma — Informal, locally sourced, creative; Roderick's top pick
Zuni Café, San Francisco — A California cuisine institution on Market Street; intimate despite its size
Ferry Building Farmers Market, San Francisco — "Incredible to see these purveyors that are focused on peppers only or something like that"
Modern Appealing Clothing (MAC), Hayes Valley — A quietly iconic SF clothing store recently named one of the 50 best in the US by the New York Times; Roderick designed a small interior garden inside the space
Art & Culture
Minnesota Street Project, Dogpatch — A collection of galleries with constantly rotating programming
Bay Area Discovery Museum, Sausalito — Roderick and his team designed eucalyptus-inspired play structures; worth a visit even without kids
Chapters
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:00 Growing Up in San Francisco
00:05:00 How Surfacedesign Works
00:08:00 Iconic Bay Area Projects
00:14:00 Water as Design and Resource
00:20:00 Designing Winery Landscapes
00:27:00 The California Creative Mindset
00:35:00 Where to Go in California
Resources
Surfacedesign Inc. — Roderick's firm
Explore the Afar guide to California
Watch the live recording of our Dallas event on YouTube
Listen to our other Unpacked Live episodes featuring naturalist Obi Kaufmann and architect Barbara Bestor
Be sure to subscribe to the show and sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| Drama, Geopolitics, and Glory: Inside the World Cup | 19 mars 2026 | 00:44:48 | |
Show Notes
The World Cup is more than a soccer tournament — it's a mirror for geopolitics, national identity, and the power of global fandom. In this episode of Unpacked, host Aislyn Greene sits down with British journalist Jonathan Wilson, author of The Power and the Glory: The History of the World Cup, to explore the drama, corruption, and beauty that have defined the tournament across a century.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How hosting the World Cup has evolved from a nation-building tool to its current complex state — and who benefits now.
What the expansion from 32 to 48 teams really means for the quality and spectacle of the game.
Which teams Jonathan is watching in 2026, and the dark-horse picks you might not have on your radar.
Chapters
00:00:00 Welcome to the World Cup Edition
00:01:30 Jonathan's Soccer Origin Story
00:07:30 Soccer, Politics, and Power
00:11:00 Who Actually Benefits From Hosting
00:21:30 The 2026 Expansion to 48 Teams
00:31:30 Teams to Watch in 2026
00:35:30 Stadiums With Stories
Meet this week's guest:
Jonathan Wilson, British sports journalist and author of The Power and the Glory: The History of the World Cup
Resources:
Explore Jonathan Wilson's books and writing on his website.
Read The Power and the Glory: The History of the World Cup for the full sweep of FIFA history and drama.
Be sure to subscribe to the show and sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel.
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| This Theater Was a Refuge for Queer Americans. Now It's Been Reborn. | 17 mars 2026 | 00:22:32 | |
She’s 104 years old, newly renovated, and she’s ready for her close-up.
On this episode of Unpacked: America 250, host Aislyn Greene talks about the newly renovated Castro Theatre in San Francisco, a $41 million transformation of one of America’s most beloved LGBTQ+ landmarks.
Aislyn sits down with Mary Conde, SVP at Another Planet Entertainment, the independent concert promoter behind the renovation, to explore what it took to bring this icon back to life, and why this was always about more than a building.
In this episode, you'll learn
The history behind the Castro Theatre, from a Lebanese immigrant’s grocery store to a 1,400-seat icon.
How the Castro became the heartbeat of San Francisco’s LGBTQ+ community.
What a $41 million renovation actually looks like, from a peach-glazed ceiling to a color-changing chandelier.
The story of the organs (yes, plural) that have defined the Castro’s sound for decades.
Why Another Planet Entertainment sees this as a gift to San Francisco, not just a business investment.
Chapters
00:00:00 The Castro's Comeback
00:00:59 Castro Theatre
00:02:00 From Grocery Store to Icon
00:05:30 A Safe Harbor for a Community
00:09:00 Inside the Renovation
00:13:00 The Organ's New Life
00:15:30 What's Coming Next
Meet this week’s guest
Mary Conde, Senior Vice President at Another Planet Entertainment and a lifelong San Franciscan who has shaped the city’s music scene for decades. Another Planet is the independent concert promoter behind Outside Lands and the recent mayoral inauguration party, and the company that took on the Castro’s renovation.
Resources
Read the transcript of this episode.
Explore the history of the Castro Theater.
Buy tickets for upcoming Castro events.
Read about the Frameline LGBTQ+ Film Festival.
Be sure to subscribe to the show and sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel. Unpacked by Afar is part of Airwave Media's podcast network. Please contact advertising@airwavemedia.com if you would like to advertise on our podcast.
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| The Hidden History of the World's Most Powerful Travel Document | 12 mars 2026 | 00:37:06 | |
Before you board an international flight, before you cross a border, you need a passport. But how much do you really know about the little book that controls where you can and cannot go in this world?
On this episode of Unpacked, host Aislyn Greene sits down with Patrick Bixby, an English professor at Arizona State University and author of the book License to Travel: A Cultural History of the Passport, which explores how a bureaucratic document became one of the most emotionally loaded objects in human history.
In the episode, they discuss the passport as a paradox: a document that simultaneously promises freedom and enforces control, that carries the hopes of liberation and the machinery of surveillance. You'll come away seeing that little booklet in your drawer in a completely different light.
In this episode, you'll learn
Why the passport as we know it was born out of World War I — and why those wartime controls never went away.
How the word "passport" dates to 15th-century France, and why Shakespeare wrote about it.
What Frederick Douglass's passport journey reveals about citizenship, race, and the fight for identity.Why the US passport ranks around 30th in global passport power — and what that means for American travelers.
What's coming next: digital borders, blockchain credentials, and the end of the stamp.
Key chapters
00:00:00 The Paradox of the Passport
00:04:00 A History Older Than Nations
00:09:00 The WWI Origins of Modern Travel
00:11:00 Gender, Race, and the Document
00:16:00 What Makes a Passport Powerful
00:20:00 Stamps, Surveillance, and the Digital Border
00:26:00 Do You Believe in the Passport?
Meet this week's guest
Patrick Bixby, English professor, cultural historian, and author of License to Travel: A Cultural History of the Passport
Resources
Read the afar.com story about the world's most powerful passports.
Be sure to subscribe to the show and sign up for our podcast newsletter, Behind the Mic, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our second podcast, Travel Tales, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we spotlight the people and ideas shaping the future of travel. Unpacked by Afar is part of Airwave Media's podcast network. Please contact advertising@airwavemedia.com if you would like to advertise on our podcast.
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