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	Title	Pub. Date	Duration
	Abide and Flourish: Breaking Free from the Productivity Trap (Bette Dickinson)	29 Sep 2025	00:57:09
For many of us, faith has been shaped by pressure to perform and produce. But in John 15, Jesus gives us another way: abiding in the True Vine. In this episode, Gem Fadling sits down with artist and author Bette Dickinson to explore how God as the loving Vinedresser leads us not toward exhaustion, but toward flourishing. If you’ve felt weighed down by striving or longed for a slower, more organic spirituality, this conversation will help you rediscover a rooted, fruitful faith. In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Why God’s primary concern isn’t productivity but flourishing The difference between an industrial approach to faith and an organic one How natural seasons reflect Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection The meaning of abiding as our place of belonging and identity in Christ How to trust fruit will emerge over time without forced busyness Resources & References Mentioned: The Art of Vinemaking: Flourishing in a Productivity-Driven Culture Making Room in Advent by Bette Dickinson John 15: The Vine and the Branches About Today’s Guest – Bette Dickinson Bette Dickinson is a prophetic artist, author, and contemplative guide. Through her writing, artwork, and teaching, she invites others to encounter God’s presence in embodied and imaginative ways. She is the author of The Art of Vinemaking and Making Room in Advent: 25 Devotions for a Season of Wonder. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	The False Vine of Workaholism	22 Sep 2025	00:20:31
In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, we explore the difference between work that flows from grace and love, and work that drains us because it’s fueled by fear, insecurity, or people-pleasing. Together we’ll talk about holy rhythms of work and rest, and what it looks like to return to the “easy yoke” of Jesus. If you’ve been feeling weary, overextended, or caught in workaholism, this conversation offers hope: you can lead from rest rather than rush. What You’ll Take Away from This Episode: How to discern between grace-energized work and soul-draining drivenness. Why busyness, according to Eugene Peterson, is not productivity but a form of laziness. The danger of “false vines” that drain life rather than nourish it. Small, sustainable practices for weaving sabbath and reflection into daily rhythms. How contemplative practices root us in God’s presence so our work becomes overflow, not overextension. Resources & References Mentioned in This Episode: Subversive Spirituality by Eugene Peterson New Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas Merton The Sayings of the Desert Fathers (various translations available) The Spiritual Life by Evelyn Underhill Jesus’ teaching on the easy yoke (Matthew 11:28–30) and the vine and branches (John 15) Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	The Art of Mindful Travel: Lessons from an Italian Tour Guide	15 Sep 2025	00:54:05
What’s the difference between rushing through a city and truly receiving it? In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, Gem Fadling talks with Lauren Mouat—a writer, instructor, and licensed tour guide based in Tuscany, about how to travel with intention, depth, and presence. Lauren, originally from California, moved to Rome more than a decade ago and now leads tours through her company, Unlock Italy. With humor, eloquence, and a gift for storytelling, she doesn’t just share history facts she invites people into the stories, beauty, and humanity of the places they visit. In this conversation, Gem and Lauren explore: Why stories make travel experiences more meaningful The difference between “checking boxes” and traveling at a soulful pace Practices like journaling, walking, and stillness that deepen connection How to resist hurry and savor beauty, curiosity, and wonder Ways to stay present and be moved by the places we encounter Whether you’re planning your next trip or simply longing to live more mindfully where you are, this episode will inspire you to slow down, notice, and receive life as a gift. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Hearing the Psalms Like Never Before (Terry Wildman)	08 Sep 2025	00:48:43
What if you could hear the Psalms and Proverbs as if for the very first time? In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, Alan Fadling talks with Terry Wildman, Ojibwe and Yaqui follower of Jesus, storyteller, musician, and lead translator of the First Nations Version (FNV). Terry has spent decades sharing Creator’s story in ways that resonate with Indigenous hearts. After the widely embraced release of the FNV New Testament in 2021, he and a translation council of over 20 tribes have now brought the beauty, rhythm, and imagery of Native American storytelling to Psalms and Proverbs. In this conversation, Alan and Terry explore: How oral tradition opens fresh ways of hearing Scripture The relational names for God, like Great Spirit and Grandfather Why Psalms and Proverbs were chosen as the next FNV project How this translation speaks to Indigenous and non-Indigenous readers alike Practical ways to let Scripture slow you down and deepen your walk with God If you long to encounter the Psalms and Proverbs in a way that stirs your soul and draws you into deeper communion with God, this episode will inspire you. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	From Pressure to Presence: Rethinking the Way We Work	01 Sep 2025	00:39:33
What if your leadership wasn’t driven by hurry, but rooted in soul-deep transformation? In this episode, Alan and Gem Fadling explore how spiritual formation and leadership are meant to stay connected—and why separating them leads to exhaustion and burnout. We’ll talk about: Why leadership development often gets siloed from spiritual formation How unprocessed inner life shows up in hurried, anxious leadership Practices that help leaders shift from pressure and performance to peace and purpose Why leading from depth, rest, and soul-rooted presence makes your influence more life-giving If you’ve ever felt stretched thin by the relentless demands of leadership, or wondered if there’s a slower, more grounded way to lead, this conversation will give you hope and practical steps forward. This episode also introduces PACE, a 21-month training experience for leaders who want to bring more soul into their work and more grace into their influence. 👉 Subscribe for more conversations on unhurried leadership, spiritual formation, and living at the pace of Jesus. #Leadership #Hurry #SpiritualFormation #UnhurriedLeadership #PACE #ChristianLeadership Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Growing Faith Through Humble Questions (A.J. Swoboda)	25 Aug 2025	00:48:01
In a world where certainty, hot takes, and strong opinions dominate, what if curiosity and humility were actually the more faithful way of following Jesus? In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, Alan talks with pastor, theologian, and professor A. J. Swoboda about his new book, A Teachable Spirit. Together, they explore what it means to cultivate intellectual humility as a spiritual discipline and to rediscover the joy of learning—even from unexpected places and people. You’ll learn: Why being teachable is central to spiritual formation. How to learn from unlikely voices—children, strangers, enemies, and even the dead. Practices for slowing down and resisting the culture of distraction and quick answers. How curiosity creates deeper wisdom, peace, and more gracious leadership. Guest Bio: A. J. Swoboda, PhD, is a pastor, theologian, and professor at Bushnell University in Eugene, Oregon, where he teaches Bible, theology, and Christian history. He is the author of several books, including Subversive Sabbath and After Doubt. He also co-hosts the “Slow Theology” podcast and is a sought-after voice on spiritual formation, rest, and resilience in today’s culture. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	How to Move Beyond Shame and Silence—Practical Wisdom from Eryn Eddy Adkins	18 Aug 2025	00:53:51
How do you move beyond shame and silence to discover your true worth? In this inspiring episode, Gem Fadling sits down with Eryn Eddy Adkins—founder of So Worth Loving and co-host of the God Hears Her podcast—to talk about healing, faith, and what it really means to find belonging in a safe, loving community. If you’ve ever struggled with feelings of shame, not-enoughness, or self-doubt, you are not alone. Eryn shares her journey from pain to purpose, and how telling your true story (not just the polished version) can be a bridge to deeper healing and connection with others. In this conversation, you’ll learn: How to move beyond shame and find your voice The power of honest storytelling in the Christian life Why community is essential for healing deep wounds Practical steps for building safe spaces and healthy relationships Encouragement for Christian women wrestling with self-worth and faith Real-life lessons from Eryn’s work at So Worth Loving and the God Hears Her podcast About Eryn Eddy Adkins: Eryn Eddy Adkins is the founder and CEO of So Worth Loving, a lifestyle brand and online community helping thousands move from pain and shame to self-worth and belovedness. Her work has been featured in CNN, Oprah, and more. She is the author of So Worth Loving and the longtime co-host of the God Hears Her podcast. More resources: → Learn about So Worth Loving: https://soworthloving.com → Listen to God Hears Her: [https://godhearsher.org/podcast/] → Connect with Eryn on Instagram: [@eryneddy] ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Jesus Grows People, Not Programs	11 Aug 2025	00:17:08
Many leaders wrestle with the question: If I slow down, will I still get anything done? In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, Alan explores Jesus’ words in John 15 alongside the wisdom of farmer-poet Wendell Berry to reimagine productivity, not as frantic busyness, but as abiding fruitfulness. Discover a vision of work that nourishes rather than depletes, both for you and for those you serve. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why busyness can actually disconnect us from the very Source of true fruitfulness. How Wendell Berry’s vision of sustainable farming offers a powerful model for ministry and leadership. Why lasting kingdom productivity always begins in abiding and focuses on people over programs. Resources Scripture: John 15 Bringing It to the Table by Wendell Berry Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Why You're Jumping to Conclusions (Dr. Erin Devers)	04 Aug 2025	00:52:26
Ever catch yourself jumping to conclusions… and being totally wrong? Or maybe you find it hard to admit when you're mistaken—especially when it's personal. That’s not just stubbornness, it’s cognitive bias, and it’s wired into all of us. But there’s good news: we can grow beyond it. In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, Gem Fadling talks with Dr. Erin Devers, Christian social psychologist and author of The Unbiased Self. Together, they explore how understanding the way our minds work can lead us into deeper formation and freer relationships. You’ll hear how fast vs. slow thinking, identity in Christ, gratitude, and community all play vital roles in transforming the way we see ourselves, others, and God. Whether you’re tired of stuck thinking or want to love more clearly, this practical and hope-filled conversation is for you. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Silencing Anxiety: Jesus’ Path to Inner Stillness	28 Jul 2025	00:13:25
In this popular replay episode, Alan Fadling invites us into a deeply personal and practical reflection on anxiety, rooted in themes from his new book, A Non-Anxious Life. Alan shares his own lifelong journey with anxiety—how it shows up in his thoughts, emotions, and even his body—and how Jesus has been teaching him a better way: a path of peace. You’ll hear stories of travel disruptions, anxious thoughts, and tender moments with backyard birds that reveal God's faithful, tangible care. This episode offers more than ideas—it’s an invitation to embody peace, to let the presence of God displace worry at the deepest levels. Whether you wrestle with anxiety every day or simply long for more inner stillness, Alan’s words will meet you with compassion and hope. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Feeling Overwhelmed by Injustice? Start Here (A Christian Guide for the Heart)	21 Jul 2025	00:50:44
If you’ve ever wrestled with how your personal faith connects with the pain and injustice in the world, this episode offers a path forward, not in politics or performance, but in deep spiritual formation. Alan sits down with transformation life coach and ministry leader Brenda Renderos for a tender, honest conversation at the intersection of soul care and justice, especially racial justice. Drawing from her years of experience walking with individuals toward greater wholeness, Brenda shares how a deeply rooted faith can lead to healing, redemptive engagement with our neighbors. Together, they explore: How inner transformation and outward justice are connected Why justice isn’t about guilt or shame but about love and presence What to do when justice work feels overwhelming or exhausting And how to take one Spirit-led step forward at a time This episode invites you to slow down, listen deeply, and consider how Christ might be forming you for justice that flows from the heart. Brenda’s Invitations to Dig Deeper: The prophets call out religious devotion that ignores justice (Isaiah 58, Amos 5). Jesus admonished the Pharisees for tithing religiously but neglecting 'justice, mercy, and faithfulness' (Matthew 23:23). Is my spiritual life making me more just? And is my work for justice making me more Christlike? What is shaping my view of justice? Am I looking at it through a cultural lens, a political lens, or a biblical lens? A great way to begin is by simply sitting with scripture. Read passages like Isaiah 1:17, Micah 6:8, or Luke 4:18-19, and ask: What does God say about justice? What does this reveal about his heart? What is his invitation for me in this season? What is one small way I can stay engaged this week, even if it feels slow? And trust that even the small things matter in God's bigger story. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Letting Jesus Shape Our Daily Rhythms (John Mark Comer)	14 Jul 2025	00:50:20
What is the Christian life really about? And what is the church meant to be? These foundational questions often reveal how deeply our assumptions have been shaped by culture more than by Christ. In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, Alan Fadling shares a rich conversation with John Mark Comer, originally aired when his book Practicing the Way was newly released. John Mark is a teacher, writer, and founder of Practicing the Way and has spent years exploring what it means to be an apprentice of Jesus in the post-Christian West. Formerly the founding pastor of Bridgetown Church in Portland, OR, John Mark now develops spiritual formation resources for churches worldwide. Together, we explore how spiritual disciplines form us not just for today, but for eternal living—and how church communities can reclaim the Way of Jesus in a distracted, fast-paced world. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Soulful Leadership: Creating Culture From the Inside Out (Ed McManness and Matt Fogle)	07 Jul 2025	00:51:13
What happens when the deep inner work of spiritual formation begins to shape the way we lead others? In this episode, Gem welcomes Ed McManness, General Director of Frontier Ventures, and Matt Fogle, Chief Development Officer at Frontier Ventures, for a rich conversation at the intersection of soul care and leadership. As leaders, it's easy to focus solely on strategy, productivity, and results—but what if transformation into Christlikeness was the foundation of our leadership? Ed and Matt share stories from their own journeys, offer practical wisdom for cultivating healthy organizational cultures, and reflect on how to lead from a place of abiding rather than striving. In this episode, you’ll learn: How spiritual formation can directly impact leadership decisions Practices for fostering presence over pressure in your leadership Rhythms and boundaries that protect leaders from burnout How to shape a spiritually formative organizational culture—even in the face of resistance About Our Guests: Ed McManness is the General Director of Frontier Ventures, a mission organization serving global leaders who bring the gospel to the least reached. His leadership is rooted in decades of experience and a deep commitment to spiritual formation. Matt Fogle serves as Chief Development Officer at Frontier Ventures and is also a Soul Care Guide with Unhurried Living. Matt is passionate about helping leaders thrive through emotionally healthy and spiritually grounded practices. If you're a leader longing to align your inner life with your outer leadership, this episode will speak directly to your journey. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	How Grace Finds You in the Wilderness (Andrew Arndt)	30 Jun 2025	00:49:56
What if the gospel is not just about someday, but about today—right here in the holy ordinary? In this episode, Alan welcomes pastor and author Andrew Arndt to talk about his new book, A Strange and Gracious Light. Rooted in the rhythms of the church calendar, Andrew’s book is an invitation to encounter Jesus afresh—not just as a message we proclaim but as a presence we inhabit. Together, Alan and Andrew explore how disorientation, waiting, and mystery can become sacred spaces for formation. It’s a conversation for those feeling weary, disconnected, or quietly hopeful—offering a fresh way to see your story illuminated by the strange and gracious light of Christ. 3 Takeaways from this Episode: The church calendar can be a gentle guide to reenter the gospel story with fresh eyes and renewed soul connection. Seasons of uncertainty and suffering may be strange—but they are often filled with quiet grace and deeper formation. Leading from a place of surrender, rather than striving, opens the way for a more grounded and grace-filled life of service. About Andrew Arndt: Andrew Arndt is the lead pastor of New Life East in Colorado Springs and host of the Essential Church podcast. A trusted voice for thoughtful Christian leaders, he brings a rich blend of theological depth, pastoral sensitivity, and contemplative wisdom to his writing and leadership. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Feeling Spiritually Numb? You’re Not Failing—You’re Being Invited w/Kyle Norman	23 Jun 2025	00:48:28
Have you ever sat in church, said your prayers, and still felt... nothing? Like your faith was stuck in neutral? You’re not alone—and you’re not broken. In this deeply honest episode, Reverend Dr. Kyle Norman shares how his wife’s cancer diagnosis led him into one of the darkest seasons of his life, shaking the very foundations of his faith. But instead of giving up, he discovered something unexpected: God hadn’t left. In fact, Jesus was closer than ever—meeting him not in strength, but in surrender. If your spiritual life feels dry, discouraging, or just plain confusing, this conversation is here to remind you: your struggle is not a sign of failure. It may be an invitation to meet Jesus in a deeper, more personal way than you ever have before. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why spiritual numbness doesn’t mean you’ve failed How to reframe discouragement as sacred invitation Real stories from scripture of people who wrestled with their faith What it means to find “holy ground” in moments of disappointment One simple but powerful practice to reconnect with God right where you are Meet the Guest: Reverend Dr. Kyle Norman is the rector of St. Paul’s Anglican Cathedral in Kamloops, British Columbia. He holds a Doctor of Ministry in Spiritual Formation and is the author of Alive, Loved & Free: A Spiritual Journey of Coming Home. Kyle is passionate about helping others experience the real, living presence of God—even (and especially) in the midst of life’s deepest struggles. Connect with Kyle: Website: kylenorman.ca Instagram: @revkylenorman Book: Alive, Loved & Free – available wherever books are sold ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	From Doing to Being w/ John Eldredge (347)	16 Jun 2025	00:48:44
Faith often becomes a checklist—prayer, scripture study, ministry—rather than a living, breathing relationship with Jesus. In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, Alan Fadling speaks with bestselling author and teacher John Eldredge about shifting from a performance-based spiritual life to one rooted in presence, intimacy, and encounter. We talk about how to slow down in a world that values hustle, how to rediscover wonder in the midst of cynicism, and how to create personal rhythms that foster authentic connection with Jesus. If you long to experience Jesus—really—this conversation is for you. John’s latest book, Experience Jesus—Really., invites readers into a deeper awareness of God’s presence and shows how to move from knowing about God to actually knowing Him in relationship. Whether you feel spiritually dry, distracted by life’s pace, or just want to deepen your walk with Christ, this episode offers practical wisdom and hopeful encouragement. Guest Bio: John Eldredge is a bestselling author, counselor, and the president of Wild at Heart, a ministry devoted to helping people discover the heart of God and live more fully in His Kingdom. His books, including Wild at Heart, Beautiful Outlaw, and Get Your Life Back, have guided millions toward a more vibrant and personal walk with God. Through his teaching, writing, and podcasting, John invites people to experience God not as a distant figure, but as a present and personal friend. Connect with John Eldredge: 🌐 Website: https://wildatheart.org 📘 Book: Experience Jesus—Really. available wherever books are sold 🎙️ Podcast: Wild at Heart Podcast 📸 Instagram: @wildatheart 📺 YouTube: Wild at Heart YouTube Channel Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Leadership in a Stressed-Out World w/Nicole Massie Martin (346)	09 Jun 2025	00:56:22
If you’ve been longing for a more humane, hope-filled way to lead—this episode is for you. Dr. Nicole Massie Martin brings years of pastoral and executive wisdom to a deep conversation about what it means to lead from the soul, not the ego. Alan and Nicole explore why so many leaders today feel spiritually empty, and how rediscovering the cross of Christ as a leadership model can bring healing—not just to individuals, but to teams, organizations, and communities. 🎯 Takeaways from this episode: The cost of leading without soul—and how to recover it Why redemptive leadership is possible, even in today’s world What cruciform leadership looks like in practice How to embrace stewardship over scale One practical step you can take today to lead with greater integrity Whether you're leading in ministry, business, education, or at home, this episode offers hope that leadership can be redemptive, relational, and rooted in Jesus. 👤 About Dr. Nicole Massie Martin: Dr. Nicole Massie Martin is the Chief Operating Officer at Christianity Today, the founder of Soulfire International Ministries, and an executive director at American Bible Society. She is a nationally recognized speaker and the author of Made to Lead and Nailing It: Seven Practices for Surrendered Leadership. Nicole holds degrees from Vanderbilt University, Princeton Theological Seminary, and Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. She is passionate about equipping leaders to bring both soul and strategy to their influence. 🌐 Connect with Nicole: Website: https://nicolemassiemartin.com Instagram: @nicolemassiemartin Twitter/X: @RevDrNicole Book: Nailing It available now wherever books are sold. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Deconstruction vs. Disorientation - What's the Difference? (345)	02 Jun 2025	00:55:52
Life doesn’t always go according to plan. The map you were following suddenly doesn’t make sense. What once felt solid begins to crack. But what if this unraveling isn’t a detour... what if it’s part of the sacred path? In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, Gem and Alan Fadling explore a powerful biblical framework for spiritual transformation—orientation, disorientation, and new orientation—a pattern identified by Old Testament scholar Walter Brueggemann and lived out in the Psalms, in Christian history, and in our lives today. Whether you're deconstructing your faith, walking through midlife questions, or just feeling lost in a long winter of the soul, this conversation will meet you there—with honesty, hope, and a deeper invitation into God’s presence. 🎧 We talk about: What the Psalms teach us about disorientation How deconstruction and spiritual formation overlap (but aren’t the same) Why lament and complaint are actually forms of faithful prayer How to move forward when nothing makes sense No matter where you find yourself—building, unraveling, or starting fresh—this one’s for you. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	7 Ways to Release Stress and Reclaim Your Life with Tracie Braylock	26 May 2025	00:35:59
In this episode, Tracie Braylock joins Gem Fadling to explore how we can release the stress we were never meant to carry. Stress isn’t just a nuisance—it can quietly erode our peace, health, and capacity to enjoy life. Tracie brings a holistic approach to well-being, weaving together mind, body, spirit, and biblical wisdom to help us relax more intentionally and live more freely. We discuss: Why understanding that you are fearfully and wonderfully made is a foundation for healing How to identify and address the root causes of stress What the “relaxation response” is and how to activate it The 9 Rs of Radical Relaxation and how they apply to power, mind, body, spirit, and relationships Why rest is not laziness, but an essential practice How to realign your spirit and deepen your connection with God This is a gentle but powerful conversation filled with wisdom and grace. If you’ve been feeling the weight of stress in your life, may this episode be a breath of fresh air and an invitation to slow down and reclaim your peace. ✨ Listen in and let go of what was never yours to carry. ✨ 🔗 Learn more about Tracie Braylock 📖 Check out her book Radical Relaxation About Tracie: Tracie Braylock is a registered nurse, integrative health practitioner, and wellness educator who helps women and organizations prioritize well-being through holistic care practices. As the author of Radical Relaxation, she combines science, soul, and scripture to guide others toward lasting peace, healing, and wholeness. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Slowing Down for Deep Healing with Nicholas and Sheila Rowe (343)	19 May 2025	00:49:52
Leadership is sacred work—but it can also leave wounds. What happens when unaddressed pain begins to shape the way we lead? And how can healing restore not only our souls but also the communities we serve? In this episode, Alan Fadling is joined by Nicolas Rowe and Sheila Wise-Rowe, authors of Healing Leadership Trauma: Finding Emotional Health and Helping Others Flourish. Together, they offer a wise, grace-filled vision of leadership rooted in wholeness rather than woundedness. This conversation is an invitation—to slow down, to pay attention to your inner life, and to believe that healing is not only possible but essential to healthy, sustainable leadership. 🎧 Topics we explore: What leadership trauma actually is—and why it’s often missed Why expectations can crush leaders, and how to be free of them How unhurried rhythms and reflection can lead to deep healing The surprising strength of vulnerability in leadership How community, not isolation, fosters restoration Practical steps to begin a healing journey today Whether you’re feeling weary, burned out, or just ready to lead from a deeper well, this episode is for you. 🎙️ GUEST BIOS Nicolas Rowe is a professor of leadership, a licensed therapist, and a leadership coach. With a deep understanding of both organizational systems and individual healing, he helps leaders navigate the emotional challenges that come with responsibility and influence. Sheila Wise-Rowe is a trauma counselor, spiritual director, and author of Healing Racial Trauma. She brings decades of experience helping individuals and communities face pain with courage and move toward healing with hope. Together, Nicolas and Sheila are passionate about helping leaders move from merely surviving to truly flourishing. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Unlocking the Power of Your Adult Self with Michelle Chalfant (342)	12 May 2025	01:02:38
What if your self-doubt, overreactions, or stuck-ness aren’t the real you? What if freedom is simply a matter of coming home to yourself? Welcome to the Unhurried Living Podcast with Gem Fadling—where we help you rest deeper, live fuller, and lead better. In this episode, Gem is joined by Michelle Chalfant, therapist, coach, and creator of The Adult Chair model, a framework that blends psychology and spirituality to help you understand your inner world and live from your truest self. Together, they unpack: The three "chairs" that represent emotional development Why your ego may still be using outdated maps from childhood How to recognize and work with your inner critic and emotional triggers Why boundaries are deeply connected to your self-worth What it looks like to live confidently and securely from The Adult Chair If you've ever felt trapped by old patterns, longed for emotional peace, or struggled to change despite your best efforts, this conversation will encourage you—and equip you with tools to grow. 🎧 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes that guide you toward a more unhurried, wholehearted life. Resources Mentioned: Michelle Chalfant’s book: The Adult Chair The Adult Chair Podcast Learn more at michellechalfant.com Guest Bio: Michelle Chalfant is a therapist, holistic life coach, author, and speaker who has spent over 25 years helping people break free from the patterns that hold them back. She is the creator of The Adult Chair, a transformative model of self-discovery that integrates developmental psychology, neuroscience, and spiritual growth. Michelle is also the host of The Adult Chair Podcast, with over 10 million downloads, where she shares tools and insights to help listeners live more authentic, empowered lives. Through her courses, community, and coaching certification program, she equips others to step into emotional health and freedom. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	What Does It Really Mean to “Go Deeper” in Faith? (341)	05 May 2025	00:13:58
Have you ever stood at the edge of the ocean and been struck by its vastness—its depth? That sense of something greater calling to us? Today, Alan Fadling invites us into a reflection on the spiritual hunger so many of us carry: a longing not just to know about God, but to be deeply rooted in God. In this episode, Alan explores what it means to cultivate a life of soul-depth, spiritual depth, and heart depth. Drawing from his book An Unhurried Life, the writings of J.I. Packer and Hans Urs von Balthasar, and his own pastoral journey, Alan encourages us to move beyond surface-level faith toward a life shaped by love, receptivity, and transformation. 📖 Topics we’ll explore: Why knowing about God isn’t the same as being deeply formed by God The difference between wide spiritual knowledge and rooted spiritual maturity How slowing down can open us to a more contemplative, relational depth with God This is a conversation for anyone who feels the ache of a shallow faith and longs for something more enduring, more transformative, and more deeply connected. 🎧 Mentioned in this episode: An Unhurried Life (Revised Audiobook, narrated by Alan) Prayer by Hans Urs von Balthasar Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Willpower Isn't Enough with Ian Morgan Cron (#340)	28 Apr 2025	01:02:13
Have you ever found yourself grasping for a quick fix—work, food, social media, or endless productivity—to ease the discomfort of life? What if true healing and freedom don't come from trying harder, but from surrendering more deeply? In this episode of the Unhurried Living Podcast, host Gem Fadling sits down with Ian Morgan Cron—bestselling author, psychotherapist, Enneagram teacher, and Episcopal priest—to talk about his new book, The Fix. This fresh and deeply personal exploration of the Twelve Steps goes far beyond addiction recovery. It's an invitation for all of us to embrace a more honest, grace-filled, and spiritually awake life. Whether you’re feeling stuck, tired of surface-level fixes, or longing for true transformation, this conversation will meet you right where you are—and gently invite you to something deeper. 🌿 Key Topics Include: Uncovering our hidden addictions and coping mechanisms Why surrender—not willpower—is the true beginning of change The wisdom and grace of the Twelve Steps How shame gets in the way of healing, and how grace restores Building spiritual "muscle memory" through daily practices A path to healing that integrates therapy, spirituality, and real-life transformation 🎧 Listen in for a conversation that might just be the invitation your soul has been waiting for. Guest Bio: Ian Morgan Cron is a bestselling author, psychotherapist, Enneagram teacher, and Episcopal priest. He’s widely known for his work integrating psychology and spirituality, especially through the lens of the Enneagram. Ian is the author of The Road Back to You and his latest book, The Fix, offers a transformative look at the Twelve Steps as a spiritual path for everyone. With warmth, humor, and vulnerability, Ian invites readers and listeners alike to a life of deeper honesty, healing, and grace. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	What Do I Do When God Feels Distant? (Steve Cuss) - 339	21 Apr 2025	00:37:41
Have you ever felt the ache of unmet expectations in your relationship with God? Does the faith you imagined seem different from the reality you’re living? In this episode, I sit down with Steve Cuss, author of The Expectation Gap, to explore the space between what we believe about God and how we experience Him in our everyday lives. Steve invites us to dive into the gaps that often hold our assumptions, fears, and doubts—and shows us how transformation can happen right there. Through our conversation, we will learn: How to identify the stories we tell ourselves about God and why they matter. Practical ways to shift our perspective and experience greater freedom, trust, and intimacy with God. The three common gaps that can create frustration in our faith journey: God’s particular love, God’s visceral presence, and our spiritual progress. Insights from systems theory that can help us navigate the complexities of faith and leadership. Simple, yet powerful practices like reflection and adding ourselves to our conscious list of relationships to foster growth and wholeness. If you’re wrestling with disappointment, control, or longing for a deeper connection with God, this episode is for you. Steve, a pastor, author, and sought-after speaker, also shares insights from his book Managing Leadership Anxiety and how systems theory has shaped his approach to faith and leadership. Join us as we unpack practical tools and meaningful shifts to help you navigate the complexities of faith and deepen your walk with God. Don’t forget to subscribe and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! About Steve Cuss: Steve Cuss is a pastor, author, and speaker who is passionate about helping people navigate the complexities of faith, leadership, and relationships. He is the author of The Expectation Gap and Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs. Steve is known for his practical approach to faith and leadership, using tools from systems theory to guide individuals and organizations toward greater health and transformation. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	3 Steps to Untangling Your Emotions w/ Alison Cook	14 Apr 2025	00:48:37
In this episode, Gem visits with Dr. Alison Cook, a renowned expert at the intersection of faith and psychology, to discuss her groundbreaking 3-step process for finding the freedom we crave. Many of us struggle with complex emotions and feelings that seem impossible to untangle. Instead of addressing these emotions with care, we often fall into the trap of guilt-tripping or gaslighting ourselves. Dr. Cook shares a powerful approach to breaking this cycle—offering practical tools and insight for embracing your emotions and moving toward healing. Together, we explore the importance of self-awareness, how to stop dismissing your feelings, and the transformative process of naming, framing, and braving your emotions. In this episode, you’ll learn: How to Stop Gaslighting Yourself – Learn why so many of us dismiss our own feelings and how to move past the cycle of self-doubt. The Power of the 3-Step Process: Naming, Framing, Braving – Discover Dr. Cook’s transformative approach to understanding and healing complex emotions. Creating Space for Healing – Understand the importance of slowing down, reflecting, and embracing both/and thinking to move forward with clarity and courage. Guest Bio: Dr. Alison Cook is a trusted psychologist, author, and speaker known for her expertise in integrating faith and psychology. Her latest book, I Shouldn’t Feel This Way, offers a compassionate and practical framework for navigating complex emotions. With years of experience helping individuals discover emotional freedom, Dr. Cook is a sought-after guide for those looking to understand and heal from within. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	337: Stop Worrying About the Future	07 Apr 2025	00:13:53
Anxiety has a way of driving us—pushing us into constant busyness and keeping us stuck in worry about the future. But living in a non-anxious way isn’t about ignoring our problems—it’s about trusting a deeper reality that surrounds us. In this episode, we reflect on the journey with anxiety and how Jesus' words in Matthew 6 continue to shape our understanding of peace. Together, we’ll explore: 🌱 The difference between wise preparation and anxious striving 🌱 How to break free from worry about tomorrow and stay present today 🌱 What it truly means to seek first God’s kingdom and righteousness If you’ve ever found yourself caught in cycles of worry, this episode is for you. Jesus is not laying down the law about your anxiety—He’s inviting you into the peace of His presence. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	336: Why Every Christian Leader Needs Space to Process Life	31 Mar 2025	00:07:44
Do you have someone in your life who helps you discern the GOs and STOPs along your journey? In this episode, Gem reflects on the powerful role of wise guides—whether a spiritual director, life coach, or mentor—and how they can offer a wider perspective and discernment that’s hard to achieve on our own. She explores the benefits of verbalizing struggles and desires, helping bring healing and wholeness. Gem also dives into the importance of having trusted relationships, like a spiritual friend, to hold space for you in a non-judgmental way and how this can foster growth and clarity. Reflection Points: Reflect on one of the six powerful questions mentioned in the episode. Choose one to ponder, pray, and journal. Notice what emerges. Of the six types of wise guides Gem listed, which one do you most feel the need for? How might you connect with the support you need? Spend some time with God in prayer, letting Him know of your desire for a trusted, wise guide. Tune in for an episode that invites you to consider who might be guiding you through the complexities of life and how you can find the support you need. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	335: Walking with God: Discovering His Will in Daily Life (Trevor Hudson)	24 Mar 2025	00:30:46
God’s will isn’t a code to crack—it’s a friendship to cultivate. How do we discern God’s will in our lives? Is it about finding a hidden answer, or is it something deeper—a way of life shaped by attentiveness, trust, and friendship with God? In this episode, Alan sits down with seasoned spiritual director and author Trevor Hudson to talk about his latest book, "In Search of God’s Will: Discerning a Life of Faithfulness and Purpose". With over 50 years of experience as a pastor and spiritual guide, Trevor invites us into a wiser, more spacious approach to discernment—one that moves us away from anxiety and into deeper relationship. Together, we’ll explore: ✨ How discernment differs from decision-making ✨ Why listening for God’s voice is key to spiritual growth ✨ Practical exercises for recognizing God’s guidance in daily life If you’ve ever wrestled with knowing where God is leading you, this conversation is for you. ___________________________________________ Trevor Hudson is a widely respected spiritual director, pastor, and author with over 50 years of experience in ministry. A native of South Africa, Trevor has spent his life helping others deepen their relationship with God through spiritual formation, discernment, and contemplative practice. He has written numerous books, including: In Search of God’s Will: Discerning a Life of Faithfulness and Purpose Beyond Loneliness Discovering Your Spiritual Identity His work emphasizes the importance of listening for God’s voice, living with attentiveness, and embracing a life of love and service. Trevor is known for his warm, pastoral presence and his ability to make deep spiritual truths accessible and practical. Through retreats, teaching, and mentorship, he continues to guide individuals and communities toward a more intimate walk with God. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	334: How to Honor Your Voice and Trust God in Difficult Seasons (Aundi Kolber)	17 Mar 2025	00:41:00
What do you really need? And what would it look like to engage life with a deeper sense of agency and self-compassion? Today on Unhurried Living Podcast, Gem is joined by professional counselor and best-selling author Aundi Kolber, whose new book, Take What You Need: Soft Words for Hard Days, invites us to embrace the transformative power of kindness toward ourselves. We’ll explore how early experiences shape the way we suppress our needs, why it’s so hard to name and honor what we truly feel, and how practicing softness can actually make us stronger. In this conversation, you’ll learn: ✨ How our past experiences shape the way we engage with our needs and emotions ✨ Why self-compassion is a powerful (and often overlooked) tool for transformation ✨ A simple prayer or body practice you can use in moments of stress Join us as we dive deep into what it means to cultivate resilience, trust, and a deeper friendship with God—even in the hard places. ________________________________ Aundi Kolber is a licensed professional counselor (LPC), trauma-informed therapist, and best-selling author of Try Softer and Strong Like Water. With a compassionate and holistic approach, Aundi integrates psychology, faith, and neuroscience to help individuals experience emotional healing and resilience. She is passionate about empowering people to move toward wholeness by learning to honor their needs, trust their inner wisdom, and cultivate a life of deep compassion. Through her writing, speaking, and therapeutic work, Aundi offers a refreshing invitation to wholeness—one that prioritizes gentleness, self-compassion, and deep connection with God. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	333: The Invitation of a Dry Prayer Season	10 Mar 2025	00:17:38
What do you do when your prayer feels dry? When it feels like you're just saying words into the air, wondering if you're actually connecting with God? In this episode, we’ll explore this common struggle, drawing from Thomas Green’s When the Well Runs Dry to uncover how prayer can move beyond effort and become more about encounter. What You’ll Learn: Prayer is a Relationship: Discover how prayer deepens when it becomes less about what you do and more about what God does in you. Our Image of God is not God: Learn how our assumptions about God can limit our prayer life, and how questioning these assumptions can open us to a deeper connection. Genuine Spiritual Growth Prefers the Ordinary: Find out why spiritual growth often happens in the mundane moments of life, not just during dramatic or exciting prayer experiences. Prayer vs. Introspection: Understand the fine line between talking to God and simply talking to yourself in prayer, and how to move beyond self-focused prayer. Beginners Try Too Hard in Prayer: Explore how prayer matures from a laborious effort to a natural, flowing encounter with God, and why it's important to let go of early-stage striving. Join us as we dive into these insights and learn how to deepen your communion with God, even in the dry seasons of prayer. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	332: 3 Invitations for a Deeper Connection with God	03 Mar 2025	00:08:40
In this episode, Gem reflects on a powerful moment from a difficult season in her life when she found hope in a simple yet profound image: a long, dark tunnel with a pinhole of light in the distance. This light became a symbol of God's presence, reminding her that even in the darkest moments, His light is enough to guide us forward. She explores the invitation from Psalm 27:4 to dwell, gaze, and seek God, unpacking each of these spiritual practices and how they bring us closer to Him. Through reflection and personal insights, this episode encourages you to embrace God's presence in the everyday moments—dwelling in His love, gazing upon His beauty, and seeking His guidance with a childlike heart. Tune in and discover how these simple practices can deepen your connection with God and His sacred presence in your life. In this episode, you'll reflect on: How can we find hope and God's presence even in dark or uncertain seasons of life? What are some practical ways to engage with the spiritual practices of dwelling, gazing, and seeking God? How can cultivating a childlike wonder and expectancy transform our spiritual journey? Resources and Links: Psalm 27:4 Psalm 139:7-10 Marina Abramović’s The Artist is Present ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	331: How to Achieve Great Productivity (Steven Lawson)	24 Feb 2025	00:34:54
In this episode, Alan talks with Steven Lawson, creator of the Monk Manual, a daily planner inspired by monastic wisdom. Together, they explore how we can live with more purpose, productivity, and presence, moving beyond the chaos of busyness to truly engage each moment. Steven shares how we can align our daily actions with our values, creating a life that is more intentional and deeply fulfilling. Rather than rushing through our days, he emphasizes that slowing down can lead to deeper productivity and stronger, more meaningful connections. Steven also offers practical strategies, like the Monk Manual and his PAR method (Prepare, Act, Reflect), that can help us live with greater clarity and presence, even in a fast-paced world. What you’ll learn in this episode: The difference between busyness and productivity and how to focus on what truly matters. The importance of living intentionally and deeply, rather than just rushing through life. Practical tools, including the Monk Manual and the PAR method (Prepare, Act, Reflect), to cultivate presence and find balance in a fast-paced world. Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	330: How Following Jesus Transforms the Way You Lead Others (Mandy Smith)	17 Feb 2025	00:46:40
"We do Kingdom things in Empire ways. What might it mean to do Kingdom things in Kingdom ways?" Mandy Smith poses this powerful question, inviting us to reimagine Christian leadership—not as coercion or burnout, but as a life deeply rooted in the ways of Jesus. In this episode, we explore why so many Christian leaders are exhausted, losing faith, or misusing power, and how confessing our limitations might be the key to rediscovering the true heart of ministry. Mandy, a pastor and author, doesn’t offer quick-fix strategies. Instead, she calls us back to the simplicity of followership, integrity, and sharing our lives with God in ways that bless the world. Together, we unpack the pressures of modern church culture, the hidden desires that overwhelm leaders, and how we can make space for God amid ministry demands. In this episode, you’ll learn: How cultural tendencies like efficiency and control are shaping (and distorting) church leadership. Why embracing our limits can lead to deeper faith, healthier leadership, and renewed joy. Practical ways to make space for God and soul care in the midst of ministry demands. Join us for a conversation that will renew your vision, refresh your soul, and remind you of the invitation at the center of it all. ________________________ Mandy Smith is a pastor, author and speaker who, after living and ministering in the US and UK, now ministers in her homeland of Australia. She is a cohort co-leader for the Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination and regular contributor to Missio Alliance. Her books include: The Vulnerable Pastor: How Human Limitations Empower Our Ministry (IVP) Unfettered: Imagining a Childlike Faith Beyond the Baggage of Western Culture Confessions of an Amateur Saint: The Christian Leader’s Journey from Self-Sufficiency to Reliance on God. Mandy and her husband, a New Testament professor, live in the parsonage at St Lucia Uniting Church where the teapot is always warm. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	329: The Christian Life Simplified	10 Feb 2025	00:12:46
What is the Christian life really about? Is it prayer, church involvement, ministry, justice, or evangelism? These are all meaningful aspects, but is there something deeper at the heart of it all? In this episode, I reflect on a question my mentor, Chuck Miller, often asked: “What is the Christian life?” His answer offers a profound simplicity—one that shifts our focus from what we do to who we are with. Together, we’ll explore how Jesus as our Good Shepherd transforms our faith from a list of tasks into an ongoing, intimate relationship. If you’ve ever felt like the Christian life is overwhelming, like a growing list of commitments, this conversation is for you. We’ll look at Jesus’ words in John 10, where he calls his sheep by name and leads them out—not just in the past, but in the present moment. You are not alone in this journey of faith. Jesus invites you into his life, guiding you, speaking to you, and walking with you every step of the way. In this episode, we discuss: How shifting our focus from “what” to “who” can transform our faith. The image of Jesus as the Good Shepherd and why it still matters today. Practical ways to listen for and recognize the voice of Jesus in daily life. Resources & Links: Read more about living an unhurried life: www.unhurriedliving.com Follow along on Instagram for more reflections: @unhurriedliving Get my book on slowing down and deepening your walk with Jesus: An Unhurried Life Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	328: Finding God’s Presence in Grief and Loss	03 Feb 2025	00:09:41
Have you ever found yourself in a dark, overwhelming season, wondering if God could hear you? We explore the healing power of lament as a way to express grief, open to God’s presence, and find rest for your soul. Lament isn't about having all the answers; it’s about allowing space for God to meet you where you are. What to Expect as you Listen: How lament can deepen your connection with God during times of grief. Practical steps to process loss through honesty, community, and restorative practices. Reflection questions to help you engage with lament in your own life and leadership. Recommended Resources: Psalm 116 Scripture Reference Resources from Unhurried Living - Explore more resources on spiritual practices and personal growth at Unhurried Living: Unhurried Living Resources Prophetic Lament by Soong Chan Rah ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	327: How to Recognize God's Voice (Tyler Staton)	27 Jan 2025	00:32:37
Who is the Holy Spirit to you—an intimate friend or a mysterious stranger? In this episode, Alan Fadling speaks with Tyler Staton, lead pastor of Bridgetown Church and author of The Familiar Stranger, about rediscovering the Holy Spirit and stepping into a more experiential, Spirit-led life. Tyler shares practical insights and biblical metaphors that invite us into deeper intimacy with the Spirit and a greater awareness of His presence and power. In this episode, you’ll hear about: How the Holy Spirit is like a tabernacle, a river, and living water. The dangers of over-intellectualizing or misusing the Spirit, with lessons from Nicodemus and Simon the Sorcerer. The power of discernment as a gift of recognizing God’s voice amid the noise. A practical, grounded approach to prophecy and speaking on behalf of God. 💡 Guest Bio: Tyler Staton is the lead pastor of Bridgetown Church in Portland, Oregon, and a passionate advocate for prayer and honest spiritual exploration. He’s the author of The Familiar Stranger as well as Praying Like Monks, Living Like Fools and Searching for Enough. Tyler lives with his wife, Kirsten, and their three sons, Hank, Simon, and Amos. Tune in to explore how growing in intimacy with the Spirit can transform your faith and life. Resources: The Familiar Stranger by Tyler Staton Tyler Staton website Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	Leaning on God for New Direction - Bonus Episode - Untangling Prayers	23 Jan 2025	00:11:08
We’re thrilled to share a powerful episode from Rachel Wojo’s Untangling Prayers Podcast on Unhurried Living! In this episode, Rachel addresses the common struggle of staying focused in prayer and finding clarity when life feels uncertain. In Untangling Prayers Rachel provides practical tools for overcoming distractions in prayer and trusting God’s timing when you need fresh direction. If you’ve ever felt unsure of the next steps in your life, this episode offers invaluable wisdom to help you lean on God’s guidance. Rachel walks through the inspiring story of Eliezer, Abraham’s servant, as an example of how prayer can provide clarity and direction, even in the midst of uncertainty. This episode is packed with encouragement for anyone seeking to deepen their relationship with God and trust Him more fully. What you’ll learn in this episode: How to stay focused in prayer and overcome distractions. Practical tips for bringing your attention back to God when your mind wanders. How to trust God’s guidance when you’re uncertain about the future. The assurance that God meets us in our distractions and guides us according to His perfect plan. Plus, exciting news from Rachel Wojo: Her new audiobook, Desperate Prayers: Embracing the Power of Prayer in Life's Darkest Moments, is now available wherever you purchase audiobooks! This powerful resource will encourage and empower you to pray boldly during challenging times. If you’re looking for practical advice on how to grow in your prayer life and trust God more deeply, this episode is for you! Listen to more episodes of Rachel Wojo’s Untangling Prayers Podcast wherever you enjoy podcasts, and don’t forget to follow her on social media for more inspiration and updates. Follow Rachel Wojo: Website Instagram Subscribe to the Unhurried Living Podcast for more insights on slowing down, embracing peace, and living with intention in the busy moments of life. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	326: Living into the Answers- Formational Power of Soulful Questions	20 Jan 2025	00:51:45
What if the key to spiritual growth isn’t rushing to answers but learning to ask deeper, slower, and more transformational questions? In this episode, we explore how formational questions can shape your journey with God. You’ll hear examples of questions that unlock insight, guidance on crafting your own soulful questions, and encouragement to hold these questions as prayers in your heart. Be patient. Live the questions now. And trust that, in time, the answers will come. Join Gem and Brenda as they reflect on the creativity, patience, and grace required to live the questions God places in our hearts. Resources Mentioned: “Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves, like locked rooms and like books that are now written in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer.” Rainer Maria Rilke ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	325: What It Means to Be Secure in God (Michael John Cusick)	13 Jan 2025	00:51:15
What does it mean to truly abide in God? How do we move beyond merely knowing about God to experiencing deep communion with Him? In this episode, I sit down with Michael John Cusick, author of Sacred Attachment, to explore the life-changing power of living in loving connection with God. Michael, a licensed professional counselor, spiritual director, and founder of Restoring the Soul, shares how our core needs—being seen, soothed, safe, and secure—are met in Christ. We also discuss the barriers that prevent us from experiencing intimacy with God, from false beliefs to misguided attempts to ease our pain. Together, we unpack practical insights like: The difference between accurate knowledge about God and communing with Him. Why our struggles often stem from mishandled pain. How imagination can open the door to experiencing God more fully. And how mysticism invites us to spiritual oneness with God. Join us for a conversation that will deepen your understanding of God’s invitation to abide and inspire you to take your next step toward living in sacred attachment. 💡 Guest Bio: Michael John Cusick is the founder of Restoring the Soul, author of Surfing for God, and a trusted voice in the integration of faith and counseling. His work has been featured in Relevant, HuffPost, and Red-Letter Christians. He lives in Littleton, Colorado, with his wife, Julianne. 👉 Tune in and discover how to abide in God’s presence today. ___________________________________ Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	324: The Need for Limits	06 Jan 2025	00:08:26
Crafting a rhythm of life isn’t just about adding more to your schedule—it’s about making intentional choices that shape who you’re becoming. Inspired by Ruth Haley Barton’s question, “How do I want to live so I can be who I want to be?” this episode explores the beauty of setting limits as a doorway to creativity, discernment, and rest. We’ll discuss how a rhythm of life can act like a trellis, supporting your growth and flourishing. With insights from spiritual writers like Margaret Guenther and Evelyn Underhill, we’ll uncover practical ways to create daily, weekly, and seasonal practices that feel life-giving and sustainable. Join me as we take one small, simple, and gracious step toward cultivating a life that aligns with God’s invitations and your deepest desires. 🌱 Reflection Questions: What feels life-giving to me? What brings me joy? What enables me to rest? Resources Mentioned: Ruth Haley Barton book - Sacred Rhythms Evelyn Underhill book - The Fruits of the Spirit Margaret Guenther book - Holy Listening Learn more about our PACE cohort training: www.unhurriedliving.com/pace Take a moment to pause, reflect, and begin building a rhythm of life that nourishes your soul. ______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	323: You Are Not in Charge	30 Dec 2024	00:16:53
In this episode, Alan dives into the surprisingly freeing good news that we aren’t in charge. Letting go of control doesn’t mean losing—it can lead to gaining a life rich with trust, peace, and joy. In a world that glorifies busyness and self-reliance, we often find ourselves weighed down by burdens we weren’t meant to carry. What if surrender isn’t a sign of weakness, but a doorway to abundance? Join Alan as he explores how releasing control opens us to the gift of trust and a more peaceful, joyful life. This episode also reflects on how trust, submission, and surrender are not signs of defeat, but pathways to freedom, deeper relationships, and a fuller experience of life. Through stories, reflections, and Scripture, we discover how letting go can lighten our load, help us flourish, and bring us closer to the life we are meant to live. Tune in and let the good news wash over you—you don’t have to be in charge, and that’s truly freeing! If you missed the first episode in this series, "You Are Not a Machine", you can listen here. ___________________________________________ Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	322: Reclaiming Your Identity In Christ (Whitney Lowe)	23 Dec 2024	00:50:56
In this episode, Gem sits down with author Whitney Lowe to discuss her book, Set Your Eyes Higher. Whitney offers a 40-day reset designed to help you let go of what’s not serving you, honor your limitations, and turn your gaze toward a God who loves you. She dives into the cultural pressures that skew our focus, and how to find peace and rest when life feels out of control. Whitney shares wisdom on how to navigate the dynamics of insecurity, anxiety, burnout, and scarcity—issues that many of us face today—and offers practical advice for finding long-lasting contentment. We talk about how to cultivate spiritual rhythms, set healthy boundaries, and move from scarcity to abundance in a world filled with comparison and distractions. Join us for a rich conversation about reclaiming peace and clarity, and discovering the hope and light that comes from a deeper connection with God. Episode Links: Sets Your Sights Higher Devotional by Whitney Lowe Whitney Lowe website ____________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	321: You Are Not a Machine	16 Dec 2024	00:20:32
Do you ever feel like you’re caught in an endless cycle of production, performance, and pressure to keep going as if you’re a machine? Here’s the truth: you’re not a machine—you’re a beloved son or daughter of God, designed with rhythms, limits, and an invitation to rest as well as work. In this episode, we unpack what it means to live as God intended—rooted, unhurried, and attuned to the gift of being human. Highlights from today’s conversation include: Embracing the Gift of Limits: Why honoring your God-given boundaries leads to true freedom and flourishing. Living Like Trees, Not Machines: How rootedness and abiding in God sustain a fruitful, abundant life. Recalibrating for Health: Moving beyond burnout to a sustainable, life-giving rhythm of rest and work. We’ll also explore how acknowledging seasons, valuing slow growth, and embracing your identity as a beloved child of God can reframe your purpose and renew your energy. Let’s lean into the good news that you were made to flourish, not to constantly perform. Listen in and take a step toward a life marked by fruitfulness, rest, and joy—a life grounded in God’s love and presence. _______________________________________________ Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	320: Living the Fruit of the Spirit	09 Dec 2024	00:07:57
In this episode, we reflect on the idea of "vibe"—the way our presence leaves an impression on others. A recent discovery in Petra, Jordan, along with memories of joyful Bedouins and the hospitality of Father Albert Haase, inspired us to consider how our interactions reflect who we are at our core. Whether bubbly or reserved, introverted or extroverted, each of us exudes something that others feel when they encounter us. What if, at our best, that "vibe" could mirror the Fruit of the Spirit—love, joy, peace, and kindness? Through communion with God, we can allow the Spirit to transform our way of being, shaping the essence we carry into the world. Jesus modeled this beautifully: fully present, compassionate, and deeply connected to the Father. His “vibe” drew people in and brought healing and hope. How might we create space for the Holy Spirit to move in and through us, allowing the fullness of God’s love to flow naturally in our daily lives? Join us as we explore how to embody this life-giving presence in a world longing for peace, joy, and love. _______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	319: Why Community Is Key to Navigating Suffering (Curt Thompson, MD)	02 Dec 2024	00:57:32
In this transformative conversation, Dr. Curt Thompson, psychiatrist and author of The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope, joins us to explore the neuroscience of suffering and the profound ways connection can heal. Drawing from his expertise in interpersonal neurobiology, Curt shares practical wisdom on how our greatest pains can become places of resilience, character growth, and deepened hope. We discuss how meaningful relationships, rather than solitary endurance, can rewire our brains and open us to healing. Through scripture, science, and personal reflection, Curt invites us to embrace vulnerability as a path to wholeness, transforming our pain into connection. In this episode, you’ll hear Curt discuss: The Science of Suffering: How our brains are wired for healing through meaningful relationships, not just enduring pain alone. The Role of Connection in Resilience: How authentic connections with others can help us navigate suffering, rewire our minds, and deepen our hope. Scriptural Insights on Suffering and Hope: Exploring Paul’s reflections in Romans 5 and how suffering can produce perseverance, character, and hope in the Christian journey. Tune in for an enlightening discussion on how God’s peace and love can shape our emotional and spiritual lives, and discover the power of connection in transforming pain into healing. Episode Links: Curt Thompson, MD website The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope The Soul of Shame: Retelling the Stories We Believe About Ourselves Being Known Podcast with Curt Thompson, MD __________________________________________________ Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	318: Engaging with God in a Technology Saturated World (Carlos Whitaker)	25 Nov 2024	00:49:20
In today’s episode, Gem sits down with author, speaker, and podcaster Carlos Whitaker to discuss his new book Reconnected. After realizing the toll technology had taken on his connection with God, his community, and even himself, Carlos took radical steps to disconnect in order to reconnect. He spent nearly two months living screen-free at a monastery, an Amish farm, and his own home, experiencing profound transformation along the way. Carlos shares the powerful lessons from his time in solitude, offering us a much-needed perspective on how technology and the fast pace of modern life are affecting our souls. He dives into the challenges and surprises of his digital detox, from grappling with the fear of his own thoughts to discovering the importance of intentionality, presence, and community. If you're feeling disconnected in a tech-saturated world, this conversation will inspire you to hit reset and consider the practices that can restore balance and meaningful connection in your life. Whether you're seeking wisdom on solitude, slowing down, or learning from community, Carlos offers insights that are as engaging as they are transformative. Tune in for a conversation full of heart, wisdom, and practical tips for reclaiming your life in a digital age. Episode Links: Carlos Whittaker Reconnected by Carlos Whittaker _______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	317: Love Makes Us Real	18 Nov 2024	00:12:05
What if love was the truest measure of who we are—not our achievements or titles, but the way we love and are loved? In today’s episode, we’re diving into this profound question through the lens of Thomas Merton, a contemplative writer whose reflections on love invite us into a deeper understanding of what it truly means to be “real.” Merton wrote that love is what breathes life into us, a force that, when shared, grows and fills the world. As we uncover his insights, we’ll explore how this love transforms us, forging a connection not only to each other but also to the heart of God. Drawing from Merton’s New Seeds of Contemplation, we explore his belief that God’s love flows uniquely through each of us, creating a beautiful mosaic of divine presence. “Because God’s love is in me, it can come to you from a different and special direction… And because it is in both of us, God has greater glory.” In this vision, love becomes a profound and personal exchange, as the divine presence moves through us, offering something precious to one another that no one else can replicate. Join us as we reflect on this life-giving love that makes us real, opening us to both a unique connection with each other and to a fuller experience of God’s glory. Links New Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas Merton From Head Knowledge to Heart Knowledge (UL Podcast episode) __________________________________________________ Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	316: Finding Contentment Right Where You Are	11 Nov 2024	00:07:53
In this episode, we’re tackling the problem of restless dissatisfaction and how the pursuit of contentment can offer a way forward. For many of us, there’s an underlying sense that something in life—who we are, what we have, or where we’re headed—should be different. The constant pull of “what if” and “if only” can leave us feeling ungrounded and yearning for a sense of fulfillment that always seems just out of reach. As I looked back on my journal entries this year, I noticed contentment as a recurring theme in my conversations with God and with my spiritual director, reminding me of the peace and satisfaction that comes with learning to be present in the here and now. Drawing from my own journey and insights from Brian Zahnd’s The Wood Between the Worlds, I’ll share practical reflections on how shifting our mindset toward contentment can bring new clarity and peace. This isn’t just about settling—it’s about recognizing how an inner posture of contentment can transform our experience, even when circumstances remain the same. Whether you’re a “Frustrated Idealist” in the Enneagram triad (Types One, Four, and Seven) or simply someone who finds themselves often seeking more, join me as we explore the ways contentment can anchor us in purpose, grace, and genuine satisfaction. Links: The Wood Between the Worlds by Brian Zahnd The Journey Toward Wholeness by Suzanne Stabile The Benefits of Looking Back podcast episode _______________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	315: Lighting the Path to Flourishing w/Mindy Caliguire	04 Nov 2024	00:54:36
The problem of burnout among Christian leaders has become an epidemic in recent years. I’ve seen Christian leaders taking emergency sabbaticals more often than at any other point in my 40 years of ministry. The souls of many Christian leaders are in trouble. How do you care for your soul? How would that help address the weariness and overwhelm many are experiencing? I’ll be talking about soul care with our guest today, Mindy Caliguire, on the Unhurried Living podcast. Mindy Caliguire is the co-founder and president of Soul Care. In the past, she has served in executive leadership at Gloo, and the Willow Creek Association (now the Global Leadership Network). She speaks into and advises organizations including Compassion International, ECFA, National Christian Foundation, and many churches and ministries across the US and beyond. Mindy’s books include: Discovering Soul Care Spiritual Friendship STIR The book we’re talking about today, Ignite Your Soul. ____________________________________________________________ Connect with Alan on LinkedIn or learn more about Unhurried Living programs on their website. Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
	314: Embracing Your Journey to Belonging with Cameron Lee Small	28 Oct 2024	00:54:39
Adoption is often framed by happy narratives, but the reality is that many adoptees struggle with unaddressed trauma and issues of identity and belonging. Adoptees often spend the majority of their youth without the language to explore the grief related to adoption or the permission to legitimize their conflicting emotions. Today, Gem is speaking with counselor and author Cameron Lee Small about his new book, The Adoptee’s Journey. You might be wondering what adoption has to do with spiritual leadership. Well, here at UL, we care very much about people and their stories. And this story is very personal to me in that I am an adoptee. Gem is also sharing her own journey as an adoptee and giving you real time insight into my current personal process. She shares things that she's never spoken in a public setting. Learn more about adoption and Cameron's story: Adoptee Consciousness Model Harlow's Monkey // JaeRan Kim Grace Newton // Trauma and Healing of Consciousness Adoptive Parenting Consultation Group hosted by Cam Schedule Cam to speak and train at your next event TEDx Talk - Why Adoptee's Need a New Kind of Village Cam's main website Connect with Cameron on Social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/camleesmall/ Instagram: @therapyredeemed Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/therapyredeemed _______________________________________________________________ Connect with Gem on Instagram and learn more on the Unhurried Living website and her new book, Hold That Thought: Sorting Through the Voices in Our Heads Learn about PACE: Certificate in Leadership and Soul Care Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

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