Turning Season Podcast is here to hearten you with regular doses of Active Hope in this uncertain, perilous, beautiful adventure we call The Great Turning. We bring you enlivening conversations with people rising to their own unique roles in our worldwide shift to life-sustaining societies. This show is for every one of you who's aware of our multiple crises, feels your love for life on Earth, and chooses to participate in cultivating ways of life we can believe in.
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Resilience and Mental Health in Humanitarian Response (with Paula Ramírez)
Thursday, August 29, 2024 • Duration 01:04:38
"How is it that those individuals who are in the front line, in the first response, can bring that awareness, that connection to their own selves through their own nervous system, owning again a quality of spaciousness in their body?"
My wonderful guest for this episode, Paula Ramírez, supports mental health in contexts of war and displacement. In this work, she has learned a lot about that process of reconnection and nervous system regulation, and about the spaciousness that can become accessible even in difficult situations.
It's clear that Paula has cultivated her own spaciousness and presence, practicing what she has been teaching in humanitarian contexts around the world.
Our conversation moved me deeply. Click Play to hear about:
Paula's commitment to supporting the mental health of first responders in humanitarian aid contexts, and especially her dedication to introducing connection with the body as part of that mental health support
A powerful story about working with men digging graves in south Sudan, and what becomes possible when we slow down and become more present
How all of us - whether in a conflict zone or in a place of currently more peace and privilege - can navigate the two extremes of being overwhelmed by intense emotion, or being disconnected from emotion. (Paula gives some beautiful guidance and tools during the conversation. I really enjoyed feeling the shift in myself as she spoke, and I think you will too.)
Paula's own story, from growing up in Colombia in the 1980s when there was an intensification of armed conflict and drug trafficking, through health challenges and healing, and questions she had about violence and war, which led her to study anthropology, peacebuilding and conflict transformation, and Somatic Experiencing
I'm so happy to bring Paula's voice to you. There's a lot she's very clear about, in a powerfully helpful way - and she also invites me into the truth of how much we don't know. We don't know yet how to handle the situations humanity faces right now - and I invite you into that with us, into this conversation with a beautiful fellow human being in these times.
Paula Ramírez Diazgranados is Co-Director of Emerge International, formerly called Breathe International, an organization which combines peacebuilding and mental health driven by the restoration of human resilience. Working with humanitarian teams deployed around the globe, with a focus in mindfulness and somatic (body-based) perspectives, Paula bridges traditional understandings of the human and more-than-human world with contemporary crisis work and trauma integration. This has brought her into work with organizations including the UN and the Tibetan Government in exile, supporting populations in contexts of war and displacement. Paula´s guiding vision is the embodied and universal dignity of all beings.
Turning Season Podcast brings you heartening doses of Active Hope in this Great Turning toward life-honoring, life-sustaining ways of being human. This is a series of deep conversations with people who are rising to their own unique roles in this worldwide shift. It's for every one of you who's aware of our multiple crises, feels your love for life on earth, and is finding your way to participate in cultivating ways of life we can believe in, making a life honoring present, even in the face of an uncertain future.
Accounting Alchemy for the Great Turning (with Ingrid Edstrom)
Sunday, June 30, 2024 • Duration 50:46
My guest Ingrid Edstrom founded the "Accounting Alchemy Network," and in this episode, we talk accounting, and we talk alchemy.
"Alchemy" as in transformation. Practical transformation, which of course is necessary in this great turning toward a life-sustaining society, along with transformation in the ways we think, and the ways we ask questions. These are necessary too.
Listen in to hear us talk about
how the accounting profession can change the world,
Ingrid's journey with giving "rights of nature" to the land she calls home,
how we change the way we think,
finding your zone of genius in your work and play
and more! It was great fun and so inspiring to talk with Ingrid. She has such a sharp and creative mind, and a powerful drive in her big heart.
More about Ingrid:
Ingrid Edstrom is a Certified Business Coach through the Woodard Institute, a Certified PQ Mental Fitness Coach through Positive Intelligence, and a certified Working Genius consultant. She is also working with her local chapter of the Pachamama Alliance and Oregon Water League to develop rights of nature for the Rogue River and surrounding local watershed, and working to use some of the education from that experience to develop rights of nature for the 2 acres she stewards where she grows most of her own food, including goats and chix.
When Ingrid is not actively working to heal the world, she is usually playing Irish music, doing a Joe Dispenza meditation, or having a deep conversation about quantum physics & chaos magick. Ingrid Edstrom is a total nerd with a hungry mind and a passion for helping others be their best selves in service to our beautiful world. Her superpowers are manifestation and positive change, even (especially) when change is scary. She loves asking the big questions that confront people with their own personal freedom, and really enjoys developing collaborative relationships with people who are brilliant, grounded in spirituality, and also working to save the world. She is a founder of the Accounting Alchemy Network, volunteers as a course moderator for the Pachamama Alliance, and participates in several other org communities, such as YesWorld Jams, School for the Great Turning, New and Ancient Story, Humane Leadership Institute, and others.
Protecting Sacred Groves in India (with Radhika Bhagat)
Season 2 · Episode 32
Thursday, April 6, 2023 • Duration 50:39
"Somehow, we were only touching the symptoms, whether it's poaching, whether it's the destruction of forests, or unsustainable development." So said Radhika Bhagat about her 12+ years of conservation work with leading organizations in India, as she explained to me why she founded the Sacred Earth Trust. Radhika now focuses on reviving spiritual connection to the Earth, as well as scientific research and education, in her work to protect India's thousands of Sacred Groves.
This conversation was wide-reaching, and once again I am so heartened and inspired to connect with someone who's reflecting deeply on how to relate to both the Great Unraveling and the Great Turning – and who is enacting her Active Hope every day.
I feel an especially strong resonance with Radhika and what she's doing for Life on Earth, and I'm looking forward to hearing what comes up for you as you listen.
Click Play now to hear us explore:
sitting with our pain as a teacher, and letting it move us to change the things we cannot accept
Radhika's experience working for a leading conservation NGO in India, and why she changed focus to reviving spiritual connection with the Earth
what Sacred Groves are
how Sacred Earth Trust has approached learning about Sacred Groves
and why it's so important to protect both these groves, AND the belief systems that have kept them alive until now
how Radhika has seen culture change in India since her teenage years, and what might revive a perspective that all life is sacred, in a modern context
why a two-pronged approach, speaking to both science and spirituality, is essential
and stories: change on the "mythic" level of human society's sense of itself; stories from indigenous protectors of sacred groves in India; and Radhika's reflections on the Three Stories of Our Time (Business as Usual, The Great Unraveling, and The Great Turning)
plus redefining "development" to include a more comprehensive experience of life, and more.
Deep Ecology, Small Actions and Big Resonance (with Fernanda Lenz)
Season 2 · Episode 31
Tuesday, March 7, 2023 • Duration 50:20
This Full Moon, a new deep conversation with someone rising to her own unique role in The Great Turning - the role only she can play, coming about through what she loves, what breaks her heart, her gifts, her circumstances, her stories. Today, meet Fernanda Lenz, an educator, facilitator, and visual documentarian in São Paolo, Brazil.
Listen in to see what resonates with you about how she's relating to this time of ecological and humanitarian crises, influenced by her longtime immersion in Tibetan Buddhism and Deep Ecology. You might be inspired, or hear something that helps you recognize what's true for you, helps you find your role in these times, or helps you keep going in the role you're already playing. Or maybe you'll find yourself sitting with a really good new question.
Click Play to hear us talk about:
the inner world, and the subtle part of us that carries on beyond our lifetimes in these bodies
taking the small actions that can be felt more deeply than seemingly bigger, more showy actions
facilitating the Work that Reconnects with humanitarian aid volunteers and with refugees
what Fernanda did when she encountered a beach covered for miles with trash carried downriver
and the worldview of "interdependence."
Fernanda teaches classes in Deep Ecology that weave her Tibetan Buddhist philosophy heritage into Joanna Macy's Work that Reconnects. She brings an embodied learning approach that emphasizes empathic connection to our living Earth, transforming apathy and grief into collaborative action.
She started her career as a photographer, after graduating from the International Center of Photography in New York City in 2013. She has produced documentary work with indigenous peoples in Brazil, documented elephants in Tanzania, and made pilgrimages with her brother Lama Michel Rinpoche and Guru Lama Gangchen Rinpoche to Nepal, Tibet and Indonesia. Coming eye to eye with all of these beings and life forms, she aims to communicate our intrinsic connection with our planetary family, portraying both its strength and fragility.
News on Indigenous Leadership in the Arctic, The Mother Tree Project, and Tribes and Nature Defenders in the Philippines
Season 2 · Episode 30
Monday, February 20, 2023 • Duration 08:07
News roundup of evidence of The Great Turning, for this month's New Moon:
The Mother Tree project in British Columbia
Tribes and Natures Defenders in the Philippines
and Indigenous leadership on climate change in the Arctic (Native Movement, Indigenous Climate Action, Native Conservancy, as shared recently by Bioneers)
Turning Season Podcast is your regular dose of active hope, here with news and deep conversations with people following the thread of their own storyline in this adventure we're all weaving toward a life-honoring, life-sustaining way of being human in Earth.
This show is for every one of you who's awake to our multiple crises, feels your love for the web of life, and is finding your way to participate in cultivating ways of living that we can believe in, making a life-honoring present, even in the face of an uncertain future.
This New Moon episode is a very quick one. Since July of last year, on New Moons, I've been releasing short 10-15 minute episodes sharing news from each dimension of the great turning: Holding Actions; Life-Sustaining Systems; and Shifts in Consciousness.
I'm really enjoying gathering up all this evidence of the Great Turning in action.
And I'm going to keep doing that. But after this one, I'll be sharing that on the New Moons by email newsletter. For the podcast, I'm returning to releasing only the deep conversation episodes, every Full Moon, where we get to really understand the work someone is doing in the world, plus what's happening in their mind and heart around the Great Turning and their personal role in it.
This decision basically comes down to my own personal sustainability. I love this podcast. I love connecting with all of you listening. And I love all the other things I'm doing. Mothering is at the top of that list, and I'm running a fuller acupuncture and dreamwork practice than I did in the past, and now working with the School for the Great Turning to support all the incredible online and in-person programming provided there.
Bright Green Lies and How to Act on What's True (with Max Wilbert)
Season 2 · Episode 29
Sunday, February 5, 2023 • Duration 01:10:56
I guess I was believing some "bright green fairytales" myself - because the truths in Bright Green Lies burst a few bubbles in my mind. In a tiny nutshell: Solar, wind, hydro, and recycling do worse than not solve our problems. They continue the harms of industrial society, and divert the attention of people who want to address our ecological crisis away from what matters most.
This book intensified some of my biggest personal questions, especially about relinquishment, and my ongoing participation in destructive ways of life.
So I was prepared to feel the weight of all this when I spoke with Max Wilbert, one of the co-authors of Bright Green Lies.
Instead, I felt lighter. I felt heartened. I felt grateful. Once again, I am reminded, there's nothing like connecting with someone who's bringing their whole mind, heart, and activist body to The Great Turning. Max is a community organizer, writer, photographer, and wilderness guide, living in rural Oregon with his family. He has been part of grassroots political work for 20 years.
He dove right in with me to:
what he loves about being alive
what's breaking his heart
his take on the "Business as Usual" story, emphasizing the short-term advantages gained by those who are willing to desecrate the living Earth and oppress other people
his background in labor activism, and how we've come further now than simply wanting more just distribution of industrial measures of economic wealth
the cautionary tale of the insatiable spirit of Wetiko, or Windigo (as described in the books Columbus and Other Cannibals, and Braiding Sweetgrass, among others), and the possibility of co-creating different culture by telling different stories
how it's not that easy or obvious to relinquish the ecocidal aspects of the lifestyles we currently enjoy - and how social change has always been messy
the campaign to protect the Nevada area known in English as Thacker Pass, and in Paiute as Peehee Mu’huh, from becoming an open pit lithium mine
A Return to Beekeeping and Reweaving (with Ariella Daly)
Season 2 · Episode 28
Saturday, January 21, 2023 • Duration 01:00:19
Here at the new beginning marked by the Lunar New Year, come back with me to the beginning of Turning Season Podcast, for what is still one of my favorite conversations yet, with dreamworker, beekeeper, and new mother, Ariella Daly.
A warm hello to all of you who've started listening since this show was born. I know not everyone has gone back to Episode 1 - so please join me in enjoying this rich conversation. If you've heard it before, listen again and let me know what strikes you this time!
We can each be guided by what we love, and by what breaks our hearts. Ariella Daly's heart is with the bees.
If you've listened to The Dreamers' Den series, you heard Ariella in Episode 31, speaking about dream mirroring, bee shamanism, and the dreamweave of the earth.
She joined me again in Autumn 2021 to kick off Turning Season Podcast, opening her heart about how she relates to this time of ecological crisis and possibility, humans as a part of nature, and teaching natural beekeeping.
Click Play to hear us talk about:
the 3 stories of our time -- Business as Usual, The Great Unravelling, and The Great Turning -- and how these three stories are playing out for bees, and for beekeepers.
the differences between conventional beekeeping, natural beekeeping, and other ways of being with the bees
the "alarm bell" bees have been ringing, with their deaths and "colony collapse," and what we can do
bees on almond trees and bees on city rooftops
what it feels like to bring a child into the world while feeling great love for life on Earth, and going through times of ecological apathy and dread
and looking through multiple lenses to realize there are no simple answers, so we focus less on policing each other or exiting a destructive system, and more on nourishing new ways of life
Your Healing Story is a Love Story (with Nisha Mody)
Season 2 · Episode 27
Saturday, January 7, 2023 • Duration 52:32
Which is easier to feel in your own mind and body:
The sense of living in The Great Turning (aka, our transition toward a life-sustaining way of being human on earth), or the feeling of "Business as Usual," a way of being human that values being productive, consuming, succeeding, and never feeling like you've done enough or have enough?
My guest in today's Full Moon episode, Nisha Mody, explores with me how these different stories live in our bodies and minds, and play out in our lives. She brings her experience as a feminist healing coach, writer and speaker.
In her work, Nisha explores the intersection of anti-oppression, intergenerational healing and relationship. She helps people sit with their feelings, claim their agency, and relate to the world with care.
Click Play now to hear us talk about:
relational vs. transactional connections (with other people, our own bodies, the Earth)
some of the mindsets and the medicines her parents brought with them when they immigrated from India
feeling like a failure, and mixing up your "work" with your "worth"
your healing story as a massive, epic love story...
...and how that doesn't mean it only includes loving, loveable moments; just like The Great Turning, which is an adventure story, full of positive change but also peril and heartbreak
and lots more.
I have very much enjoyed getting to know Nisha over the last year and a half or so. I find her writing and coaching to be such a heartening example of The Great Turning taking place within someone in their own unique way.
I especially appreciate that even though she doesn't present her work as being particularly about ecology, or Nature, or Earth-connection, she brings her own connection with the Earth to her work, and supports clients in tending to theirs.
News on Refugees and Regenerative Agriculture in Uganda, Fossil Free Research, and the Revolutionary Love Project
Season 2 · Episode 26
Friday, December 23, 2022 • Duration 13:31
Click Play for 13 minutes of Active Hope to hearten you today, in the latest news episode of Turning Season Podcast. Hear about:
the work of a young refugee in Uganda named Irenge Mudekuza Gloire, founder of Plethora Social Initiative, teaching permaculture and regenerative agriculture to fellow refugees and host communities
Fossil Free Research campaigns to get universities to break ties with oil and gas companies - and never let them fund research on climate, energy, or environmental studies
and the Declaration of Revolutionary Love, written by civil rights leader and visionary Valarie Kaur
Turning Season Podcast is here to bring you news and deep conversations about our adventure toward a life-honoring, life-sustaining way of being human on Earth. This show is for every one of you who's awake to our multiple crises, feels your love for life on Earth, and chooses to participate in cultivating ways of life we can believe in, making a life-honoring present even in the face of an uncertain future.
Hosted by Leilani Navar, acupuncturist, dreamworker, and facilitator of the Work that Reconnects.
Finding Your Purpose in a Time of Deep Adaptation (with Gwyneth Jones)
Season 2 · Episode 25
Wednesday, December 7, 2022 • Duration 56:59
It can be hard enough to find your "purpose" in the best of times - and it's a whole other level of challenging when you're reckoning with the prospect of ecological and societal breakdown. My interviewee for this Full Moon episode, Gwyneth Jones, describes herself as a "Deep Adaptation Coach," serving as a life coach for people who are aware of our collective predicament.
She's rising to her role in the Great Turning also as a writer, a gardener, a teacher of her native language, Welsh, and a connector, having one-on-one conversations with people around the world in her interview series, "The Story Anew."
Click Play to enjoy Gwyneth's company with me and hear us talk about:
what "Deep Adaptation" is, and the 4 R's of Resilience, Relinquishment, Restoration, and Reconciliation
the stories we tell about what's happening in our world right now
shifts in consciousness Gwyneth has noticed at home in Wales, and in conversations with people from the Philippines to the Democratic Republic of the Congo
helping people tap into a feeling of calling, duty or mission (and how it's more than okay to have more than one, and have your work be hard to describe!)
and teaching the Welsh language in connection with decolonization, as people reconnect with nature-loving ancestral cultures in the British Isles.
I read the "Deep Adaptation" paper myself for the first time early this year, and it's had a profound effect on me. Gwyneth is someone who has integrated these considerations into her personal and professional life, and she remains so full of vitality and love. I'm very happy to be connected with her as we all meet these times together. Enjoy the conversation.
Thanks for listening to Turning Season Podcast, your regular dose of Active Hope in the Great Turning, bringing you news and deep conversations about our adventure toward a life-honoring, life-sustaining way of being human on earth. This show is for every one of you who's awake to our multiple crises, feels your love for life on Earth, and chooses to participate in cultivating ways of life we can believe in, making a life-honoring present, even in the face of an uncertain future.
Enjoy, please share what you think about all this, and if you know anyone else who would appreciate this conversation with Radhika, please send them the link.
Connect with Fernanda, learn more about the practice of Tonglen, check out Joanna Macy's book World as Lover, World as Self, and subscribe to our newsletter at: turningseason.com/episode31
All while I also want to make more, not less, time and space for all the fun and the challenges of my family, community, and bioregion.
So that's the plan: New Moon newsletter, Full Moon episodes. The newsletter will include a roundup of Great Turning news, along with links to other things I've come across that month that I've found heartening or inspiring, or have made me ask new questions, plus maybe a meme or two that made me cry-laugh.
Click Play to listen, and subscribe to the newsletter at turningseason.com,
Come back for the upcoming Full Moon episodes with guests from Brazil, Utah, and India. So excited to share these with you.
Thanks for being here, and for all the ways you play your part.
looking around wherever you are to find something worth fighting for
and a future we can't imagine yet, knowing we can be creative about how we transform.
I have so much appreciation for the work Max is doing in the world, and deep gratitude for this wide-ranging conversation. Hit Play now, and after you listen, come to the show notes for links to the books we mention, more about protecting Thacker Pass / Peehee Mu'huh, and great resources from Max.
Let's carry the weight together, and keep enacting our active hope.
You'll hear the voice of Ariella's baby, too (6 months old at the time of this conversation), and hear her get distracted by the beauty of leaves outside the window. I love those moments, because no matter what else we're focused on, parenthood and trees in the wind are present too, all the time.
Subscribe to Turning Season Podcast to get every dose of active hope. Returning to this conversation now in February 2023, I'm thrilled by how this expanded podcast has grown and is fulfilling the original vision: bringing you into conversation with healers, changemakers, visionaries, wisdom-keepers, and all kinds of people doing the on-the-ground work of The Great Turning.
Of course, I celebrate each and every one of us who does describe our work in terms of ecology and Earth-love - but I am also excited to see this sense of interconnection and reciprocity with the rest of the living Earth woven into all kinds of work and ways of life.
And bonus: In one of Nisha's former careers, she was a librarian, so she has great book recommendations. You can find the books she mentioned in our conversation and others she recommends in the show notes at turningseason.com/episode27.
You'll also find links there to Nisha's website and Instagram.
If you're listening to this episode close to the date it comes out, you still have time to sign up for a free online workshop I'm hosting on Tuesday, January 10th called:
I'll share with you a Chinese Medicine-inspired way of looking at stress and stress relief that might be new to you, explain how different emotions affect the body differently, and how our physical health also affects our emotions, plus teach you a couple of practical techniques from self-acupressure massage and qigong for moving the stagnation caused by emotional stress.
We'll also do a little bit of the Work that Reconnects and explore how Joanna Macy and a Deep Ecology perspective teach us how our emotions about what's happening in the world can help us serve and make change - how our human emotions might be a crucial way that life on earth sustains itself.
Turning Season Podcast is here to bring you regular doses of Active Hope, through news and deep conversations about our adventure toward a life-honoring, life-sustaining way of being human on Earth. This show is for every one of you who's awake to our multiple crises, feels your love for life on Earth, and chooses to participate in cultivating ways of life we can believe in, making a life honoring, present, even in the face of an uncertain future.
Hosted by me, Leilani Navar. I facilitate the Work that Reconnects, I practice acupuncture and dreamwork, and I believe in the power of conversation. This podcast is one way The Great Turning happens through me. Thank you for being here.
Hosted by Leilani Navar, a facilitator of the Work that Reconnects, an acupuncturist and dreamworker, and a believer in the power of conversation.
Show notes with links to connect with Gwyneth, hear the TED Talk she mentions, and learn more about Deep Adaptation and connect with community: turningseason.com/episode25
