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This week on the Truth Works podcast, Jessica Neal sits down with Bob Sutton, Michael Arena, and Beth Steinberg to unpack one of the most debated topics in organizational design — flat vs hierarchical structures.

Drawing on lessons from companies like GM, Nvidia, and Netflix, they explore how culture, leadership, and network dynamics drive innovation and accountability. From Michael Arena’s experience at General Motors to Beth Steinberg’s work in shaping talent at high-growth startups, and Bob Sutton’s decades of Stanford research on power and scaling — this conversation reveals what truly makes organizations thrive (or collapse) as they grow.

If you’ve ever wondered how companies like Nvidia maintain speed and creativity without chaos, this episode is a masterclass in the art and science of organizational design.

This week on Truth Works, Jessica Neal sits down with Patrick Leddin — former U.S. Army Ranger, Fortune 500 consultant, professor, and bestselling author of Disrupt Everything and Win (co-written with James Patterson). Patrick shares how he’s led through constant change — from the military to corporate boardrooms to academia — and what it truly takes to navigate disruption without burning out.

In this episode, Patrick breaks down his research behind Disrupt Everything and Win, including:

• How leaders can turn chaos into momentum using the Disruptive Loop: Discern → Behave → Achieve → Refine
• The five roles people play in moments of change — from Trailblazer to Firefighter
• Why saying no can sometimes be the most disruptive move
• What it means to own the day before your feet hit the ground
• How to build resilience, self-awareness, and unity in command — even when your team feels overwhelmed

Patrick also opens up about co-authoring with James Patterson, leaving his professorship at Vanderbilt to bet on his own work, and why true leadership starts with reflection, humility, and purpose.

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In this episode of Truth Works, we sit down with Beth Steinberg, an organizational development and leadership expert with over 25 years of experience guiding companies through hypergrowth, IPOs, and acquisitions. As founder of Mensch Ventures and former People leader at Facebook, Sunrun, and BrightRoll, Beth has helped scale both startups and global enterprises by blending leadership coaching with people strategy and culture design.

She shares lessons from steering talent systems under pressure, her philosophy on coaching leaders rather than just managing tasks, and her commitment to advancing women in STEM through the U.S. State Department’s TechWomen initiative. This conversation is a masterclass in building resilient organizations where culture and growth go hand in hand.

In this episode of Truth Works, we welcome James Turk, author of The Giving Game. James is dedicated to helping organizations cultivate leaders who understand that generosity is not just a personal virtue, but a strategic advantage.

He explains how effective leadership is built on trust, collaboration, and the ability to give more than you take. Drawing on his research and experiences, James shows how “the giving mindset” transforms cultures—turning teams into communities that thrive on shared purpose and mutual support.

We discuss practical ways leaders can integrate these ideas into their organizations, from shaping daily interactions to guiding long-term strategy. James challenges traditional notions of leadership rooted in authority, offering instead a vision of leaders who elevate others, empower innovation, and build resilience through generosity.

In this re-run episode of Truth Works, Nirav Tolia - co-founder and CEO of Nextdoor - shares an unfiltered look at the rollercoaster of startup leadership. From his early internet days at Yahoo to co-founding Nextdoor, Nirav reflects on the thrill of building something people love, the sting of being asked to step down, and the personal growth that came from failure. Now back at the helm, he discusses how he’s leading differently, the importance of culture, and why resilience matters more than ever.

In this episode, we cover:

• Nirav’s journey from Odessa, Texas, to Stanford, Yahoo, and the creation of Nextdoor
• Lessons from his first startup success — and a massive failure
• The emotional impact of being removed as CEO and how he rebuilt his perspective
• The role stress plays in leadership and how to manage it
• Why intent matters less than impact when leading a team
• Balancing vulnerability with authority as a leader
• Returning to Nextdoor during a turnaround and redefining its culture
• The “two products” every CEO is building: the product itself and the company’s culture

In this episode of Truth Works, hosts Jessica Neal and Bob Sutton sit down with Laszlo Bock, a trailblazer in the world of people analytics, and the former head of HR at Google. 

Laszlo shares his remarkable journey, including his time at Google and his transition into entrepreneurship. The conversation dives deep into the evolution of corporate culture, how data is transforming the way we hire, and the importance of challenging the status quo to create meaningful organizational change.

Laszlo also touches on some fascinating stories, including a pivotal experiment at Google to test hiring practices, and why sometimes, “constructive defiance” is a key weapon in driving positive change. 

With insights on the intersection of leadership, innovation, and people strategy, Laszlo offers valuable takeaways for those looking to reshape their approach to business and leadership.

Tune in to hear about the power of data-driven decision-making, how to build a better workplace, and the wisdom that comes from thinking outside the box.

In this thought-provoking episode of Truth Works, organizational visionary Michele Zanini joins Jessica Neal and Bob Sutton to unpack the tyranny of bureaucracy and the bold promise of humanocracy. Co-author of the updated book Humanocracy, Michele explains why traditional management systems fail to inspire innovation, agility, or meaning—and how companies like Netflix, Roche, and even the U.S. Army are rewriting the rules.

Together, they explore:

• Why companies become bureaucratic over time
• The flipside: unleashing resourceful people instead of controlling them
• Radical models of leadership, autonomy, and peer accountability
• How culture is built through operating systems—not slogans

If you’re a founder, HR leader, or executive trying to unshackle your team from inertia and unleash real human potential, this one is for you.

Why do we instinctively add when the better answer might be less?

In this episode of the Truth Works Podcast, we sit down with Leidy Klotz—behavioral scientist, engineer, and author of Subtract—to explore why subtraction is one of the most underused tools in problem-solving, design, and even life itself. From ancient architecture to modern innovation, Leidy unpacks the hidden bias that keeps us adding complexity instead of removing it.

We dive into how this instinct shapes everything from personal decisions to global policy, and how changing it could transform the way we think, create, and lead.

If you’re addicted to doing more, building more, and thinking more—this episode might just shift your perspective forever.

Topics:

1. Subtraction for solutions: Using subtraction to improve outcomes, inspired by a Lego bridge.

2. Default to adding: Humans add to show competence, like bowerbirds building nests.

3. Bureaucratic over-addition: Excessive additions cause inefficiency, e.g., 60 sign-offs.

4. Effective subtraction: Cases like Capital One task removal, PBS dropping reviews.

5. Friction reduction via subtraction: Simplifying processes, e.g., Google’s interview limit.

6. Netflix’s subtraction strategy: Spinning off DVDs to focus on streaming.

7. Cutting meetings: Reducing meetings, e.g., Stanford’s quarterly shift, Asana’s reset.

8. Subtraction challenges for juniors: Early-career struggle to subtract, need subtle work display.

9. Environment shaping behavior: How environments impact competence, connection, agency.

10. Reducing cognitive load: Filtering info, questioning outdated mental models.

This week on Truth Works, we’re joined by guest Alison Fragale, award-winning professor and author of Likeable Badass.

She brings sharp insight into leadership, power, and how women can thrive in high-stakes environments.

Welcome to Truth Works.

This month’s cohost is the brilliant Robert Sutton, back with fresh takes on workplace dynamics!

Chapters in this podcast

1. Introduction to Casual Conversations  
2. Exploring Academic Journeys  
3. The Importance of Status in Professional Life  
4. Navigating Relationships and Power Dynamics  
5. Understanding the Balance of Competence and Likability  
6. The Role of Warmth in Professional Interactions  
7. Challenges of Low Status Power Holders  
8. Strategies for Dealing with Insecure Authority Figures  
9. The Impact of Gender on Professional Perception  
10. Building Status and Respect in the Workplace  
11. Conclusion and Key Takeaways  
12. The Power of Unique Contributions  
13. Navigating Professional Relationships  
14. The Balance of Likability and Competence  
15. Proactive Strategies for Professional Interactions  
16. Building Authentic Status  
17. Leveraging Relationships for Promotion  
18. Asking for Help and Reciprocity  
19. New Chapter  
20. Authenticity and Strategy in Professional Growth  

In this episode of Truth Works, Jessica Neal and Patty McCord break down the power, pitfalls, and practices of candid feedback—from Netflix boardrooms to personal moments that stick for life. Discover how feedback (both good and bad) becomes the engine of trust, growth, and culture.

This episode is a rerun but an important topic for us to keep in mind.

Topics & Timestamps:

• [00:00] Opening story: a small act of appreciation
• [01:00] Welcome to Truth Works and theme intro
• [03:00] Production crew feedback moment
• [05:00] Why candid feedback is hard—fear & discomfort
• [07:00] Giving feedback is a learned skill
• [10:00] Positive feedback is often overlooked
• [13:00] Why people fear hearing “feedback”
• [15:00] Netflix culture: obsession with improvement
• [17:00] Impact of lacking positive reinforcement
• [20:00] Feedback as a gift—even if unwelcome
• [22:30] Great feedback has examples and instructions
• [26:00] Cultural differences in feedback styles
• [30:00] Anonymous feedback problems
• [33:00] Modeling feedback behavior as a leader
• [36:00] In-the-moment feedback is most effective
• [38:00] Retention and acknowledgement
• [40:00] The ripple effect of good feedback
• [43:00] Giving feedback with care and solutions
• [46:00] Motivation: feedback that fits the person
• [49:00] Reed Hastings story: positive feedback challenge
• [52:00] Ending reflections and key takeaways
• [55:00] Listener question: when feedback gets petty
• [59:00] Personal jabs vs helpful feedback
• [01:02:00] Creating a feedback culture—final thoughts