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Josh and Michelle Tooker examine Keyes's comments about and references to abducting and murdering couples. They take a look at what exactly that might mean, follow-up on previously covered cases, and take a look at new ones. And then they hone in on what the team may have been overlooking all along.  

This episode was written, researched, and produced by Michelle Tooker. 
It was edited and post-produced by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky and Jordan Taylor.  

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Music by: Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Nocturne. 
Featured song by: Peter & Kerry 

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Join Josh, Shana, and Tooker in Iceland on our next Trova Trip: June 13 - 19, 2026.

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Josh follows up on a new tip from FBI Special Agent Ted Halla. It takes him to familiar ground, both literally and in cases he's looked into previously. This new tip, with some research and fascinating conversations, compels Josh to some interesting and shocking conclusions. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor.  
 
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Music by: Radical Face, Odyssey, and 9 Moons. 
Featured song by: Hannah Cohen. 

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, DeWayne C, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Pink, SC, Bethany Heintz, Michael Randall, Ashley Kupin, Carrie, Kathy Nation, Emily Paine, Megan Inman, Lauren Ferri, Carol, Robin, Shelly, Sabrina Abbott, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Trista, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Tori Myers, Nichole, and Lydia Rodarte Quayle.


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Josh goes over the investigation into Israel Keyes's death; including what was found in his cell, what led to it, and how it happened. Plus new information opens an online can of worms, and sends Josh to Washington state. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor.  
 
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Music by: Radical Face, Sero, Helvv Kryd, and Nocturne. 
Featured song by: Stars. 

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In the season 7 premiere, Josh goes over a long list of significant new evidence, answers a few big questions, and asks plenty more new questions. A picture of a woman found in Keyes's car paints a very clear picture of some of his activity. New maps, journals, writings, and more set the stage for an eye-opening season.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor.  
 
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Music by: Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Lee Rosevere, Jozeque. 
Featured song by: Thom Yorke.
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As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.

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As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.

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Last week, Tim, Lance, Greg, and Lou announced a new lead in the Brianna Maitland case. So, Josh sat down to get the new information, discuss its potential implications, and see how it's moving the investigation into Brianna's disappearance forward.

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In the second season premiere, Josh digs into two years of research into the lives and crimes of Steven Lorenzo and Scott Schweickert, in hopes of identifying other victims. A list of 25 missing and murdered men, across multiple jursidctions, launches a deep-dive investigation that examines the lives of these 25 men, Lorenzo & Schweickert, other area serial killers, intersectionality, homophobia, politics, and more. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark 

Featuring: 
Albert Perkins 

Resources: 

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• CharleyProject.org
• The Tampa Bay Times  
• The Tampa Tribune  

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The season six finale is over a decade in the making; Josh sits down with FBI Special Agent Ted Halla to discuss the Keyes investigation, share new information and ideas, rule out potential victims, and develop our clearest look yet at the details surrounding 5 of Keyes's victims. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.  
Featuring: FBI SA Ted Halla.  
Sound editing by: Darron Wood of the Defense Diaries podcast.   

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Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Sero.  
Featured song: The Museum by Half Waif  

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Josh continues his look into the strange disappearance of Roger Jung. The team analyzes tips, reviews the Keyes timeline, data mines, and gets some help from the Everett Police Department.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Kim K.  
Sound editing by: Darron Wood of the Defense Diaries podcast.  
 
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Trova Trip to Chile & Argentina

Music by: William Hellfire, HIVE, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov. 
Featured song by: Sunriver

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The team deep-dives a Washington State case that has come up time and time again over the years. New case files, new leads, and a strange online comment in a very cold case turn a mysterious disappearance on its head.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Research assistance by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Kim K.  
 
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Trova Trip to Chile & Argentina

Music by: William Hellfire, Itai Argaman, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov. 
Featured song by: Katie Herzig  

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Josh receives an email.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
This episode featured: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Joshua and Dakota from Somewhere in the Pines.  
 
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Trova Trip to Chile & Argentina

Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov. 
Featured song by: Kashka  

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As the investigation into Marble Arvidson's disappearance heats up, it takes Josh and the team to a second nearby disappearance with some overwhelming connections to Keyes. And a theory the team considered several years ago, rears its very ugly head.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
With additional research assistance by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker.  
 
Resources included:
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• https://digital.nepr.net/news/2016/08/29/hurricane-irene-its-been-five-years-since-shelburne-falls-building-sailed-away/
• https://www.wwlp.com/news/hurricane-irene-remembered-in-franklin-county-five-years-later/

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Music by: William Hellfire, La Bon, Yehezkel Rez, Dan Mayo, and Parhelion. 
Featured song by: The National  

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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Supplemental files in the Marble Arvidson case take the team on a strange journey. New interviews with Marble's friends shine a light on who he was and where he might have gone on the day he vanished. And that information shines a new light not just on Keyes, but four other disappearances in the area. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky.  
And research assistance by: Michelle Tooker. 

This episode features: 
Shana Wilensky and Michelle Tooker. 

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Music by: William Hellfire, La Bon, and Radical Face. 
Featured song: "I Follow Rivers" by: Marika Hackman  

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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As the team deep-dives the Mark Oldbury & Jimmy Tidwell cases, Josh develops a timeline, and Kaz finds something important in Fort Worth, Texas. 

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This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Kaz, and Michelle Tooker. 
And research assistance by: Kim K and Shana Wilensky. 

This episode features: 
Shana Wilensky, Jordan Taylor, and Michelle Tooker. 

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Music by: William Hellfire, Sero, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Lee Rosevere, Fields of Ohio, and Wings for Louise. 

Featured song: "My Hands on the Water" by: Amanda Bergman  

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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New FOIA files, sightings, information, and the LaPlace cache take us back to Keyes's February trip to Texas and Louisiana. A fresh perspective on the disappearances of Mark Oldbury and Jimmy Tidwell help us shape a new timeline and process new discoveries.

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This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Kaz, and Michelle Tooker.
And research assistance by: Kim K and Shana Wilensky.

This episode features:
Christina Alverson, Shana Wilensky, Jordan Taylor, and Michelle Tooker.

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Music by: William Hellfire, Sero, Sergey Cheremisinov, Yehezkel Raz, and Radical Face.
Featured music by: Morgan Harper-Jones

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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In Louisiana, our investigation into Israel Keyes changes forever.
This is a crossover episode with True Crime Garage and Somewhere in the Pines. We recommend listening to all four episodes.

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This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, Joshua Ash, and Dakota Williams.

This episode featured:
Joshua and Dakota from the Somewhere in the Pines podcast 

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Music by: William Hellfire, Sero, Chris Haugen, Sergey Cheremisinov, Yehezkel Raz, and Radical Face.
Featured music by: The Be Good Tanyas

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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In our final episode before the mid-season break, we breakdown our discoveries in Constable, including new details that eerily connect to old research. Then the teams behind TCB and Somewhere in the Pines all meet for the first time and discuss where they're going and where they've been.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky.

This episode featured:
Joshua and Dakota from the Somewhere in the Pines podcast 
Kim K.
Jordan Taylor
Shana Wilensky
Michelle Tooker

Resources included: 
•  vintageaerial.com  
• The Charley Project
• NAMUS

Trova Trip: Come with us to Chile & Argentina!

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Music by: William Hellfire and Radical Face.
Featured music by: My Brightest Diamond

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, Hailey Ziegert John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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Somewhere In The Pines is a serial podcast dedicated to locating the hidden caches of American Serial Killer, Israel Keyes. Listen along as Joshua and Dakota search the small towns, rivers, and campgrounds of Washington’s Olympic Peninsula.

Somewhere in the Pines premieres on June 27th wherever you listent to podcasts.

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration
www.somewhereinthepines.com / www.bothand.fyi 

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Our investigation into whether Israel Keyes could be involved with Maura Murray's disappearance continues. We expose new information and a possible cache location. And new connections between the two cases and between two podcasts begin to take the Keyes investigation to brand new places.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K and Michelle Tooker.
And research assistance by Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky.

This episode featured Joshua and Dakota from the Somewhere in the Pines podcast. 

Resources included: 
•  Media Pressure
•  mauramurraymissing.org

Trova Trip: Come with us to Chile & Argentina!

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Music by: William Hellfire, Dan Mayo, Yotam Agam, The Bows, Sergey Cheremisinov.
Featured music by: Chromatics

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, Hailey Ziegert John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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With new evidence potential placing Israel Keyes in Upstate New York in the days following Maura Murray's disappearance, we re-evaluate his February 2004 trip to Utah, and some of the glaring flaws in the FBI's timeline. And Josh updates Julie Murray on his investigation into Keyes's February 2004 timeline and her experience with True Crime.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K and Michelle Tooker.
And research assistance by Jordan Taylor and Shana Wilensky.

This episode featured Julie Murray. 

Resources included: 
•  https://www.weather.gov/•  https://www.the107degree.com/records
•  Media Pressure
•  mauramurraymissing.org

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Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Itai Argaman, Yehezkal Rez, Spearfisher, Streams, Kyle Preston, and Amulets.
Featured music by: The New Radicals

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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Something found in Keyes's house and some odd information online take the team down two shocking investigative paths that converge in the most frustrating and strangest way. And the scope of what is possible with Keyes becomes dauntingly vaster.

Take the travel survey

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This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, and Jordan Taylor

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Music by: William Hellfire, John Gegelman, Yotam Agam, and Radical Face.
Featured music by: Tori Amos

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In Vermont, two theories converge and blow the investigation wide open. And just as things seem like they can't get any crazier, they do.  

Join the YouTube After Show tonight at 9pm Eastern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6S3UjCh2Q0

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kaz.
Featuring: Kim K, Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker

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Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Mike Vignola, Yehezkel Rez, and Radical Face.
Featured music by: El Perro del Mar

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We continue our look into sightings of Israel Keyes at college campuses within Keyes Hotspots.  

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor.

Resources: 
The Olympian: Students reconsider safety on Evergreen campus
The Bangor Daily News: Police searching for ‘collision’ rapist
The Bangor Daily News: UMaine police investigate an alleged assault

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Music by: William Hellfire, Parhelion, Jameson Nathan Jones, Wings for Louise, Sergey Cheremisinov.
Featured music by: The Eels  

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lindsey Loucifer, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.

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We begin looking at attacks and odd encounters at college campuses on the west coast, with one particular campus - familiar to us all - coming up again and again. These encounters force us to re-evaluate a previously covered disappearance, something from the Kim interviews, and Keyes's marathon days. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kim K. and Shana Wilensky

Resources: 
The Western Washington University Police
The Cooper Point Journal, The Evergreen State College
The Rachel Corrie Foundation for Peace and Justice: https://rachelcorriefoundation.org/  

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Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Tai Argaman, Jordan Hatfield, James Forest, Aquartos, Dan Mayo.
Featured music by: Sarah Belkner  

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Jordan Goodnight, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kharisma Rodriguez, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lindsey Loucifer, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Tuesdi Woodworth, Vicki Russell, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.

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Photos from Keyes's Constable home open up new leads, new ideas about Keyes, and old questions. Plus a look at encounters and attacks on college campuses across the country gives us insight into how Keyes was operating.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, Aquartos, Dan Mayo.
Featured music by: Broken Social Scene.  

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.

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The Kimberly interviews provide critical information to the Keyes timeline, and a pattern begins to emerge. New research takes Josh to the East Coast and two potential victims. Surprising new information leads us back to some previously disregarded tips. And more than fifty new photos change the course of the investigation.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Join Josh on the AdvocacyCon livestream on Facebook at 7:30pm Central on Thursday (3/28).

Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Sero, Whithe, Esther Abrami, John Gegelman, Tristan Barton, Jameson Nathan Jones.
Featured music by: The Cinematic Orchestra.  

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Karli McNutt, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.

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After a year break, Josh and team are back with dozens of new files, hours of new interviews, and a much bigger view of Keyes' and Kimberly's personal lives, and their implications on his crimes.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.

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Join the livestream discussion on YouTube.  

Music by: William Hellfire, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Sero, Hive, Kyle Preston, and Parhelion
Featured music by: The New Pornographers  

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Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette L, Asch Fish, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jessica Alihodzic, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lana, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sarah King, SC, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Karli McNutt, Jordan Taylor, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, and Lydia Fiedler.

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True Crime Bullsh** returns March 21.

Written and produced by Josh Hallmark.

Featuring:
• Shana Wilensky
• Jordan Taylor
• Kim K.
• Kaz
• Michelle Tooker
* Josh & Dakota from Somewhere in the Pines

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
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Berkshire Podcast Festival: www.BerkshirePodcastFestival.com
True Crime Podcast Festival: www.TrueCrimePodcastFestival.com

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Binge the rest of season one of Unsafe Spaces, at Unsafe Spaces: Tampa's Missing Men, wherever you listen to podcasts.

Scott Schweickert's house is searched, disturbing photos are found on Steven Lorenzo's computer, more Lorenzo assault victims come forward, someone confesses, and another gay man goes missing.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz

Featuring:
• Dr. Scott from LA Not So Confidential
• Drew Mackie from Gayest Episode Ever

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Music by: Evolving Scapes, Grisly Bill, Light in the Shadow, Hynogogia, Yehezkel Raz, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Chris Garneau

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Steven Lorenzo's friend and accomplice is identified as Scott Schweickert. And the pair's history is revealed through AOL instant messages and a mutual friend. Tampa PD investigate multiple assaults within the Tampa gay community, leading to an arrest and a second search warrant. And the relationship between Steven and Scott gets complicated.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Audio editing by: Darron Wood (The Defense Diaries podcast)

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• The Tampa Bay Times: Which one is the real Scott?
• Newspapers.com
• CNN.com
• Equity Florida Action, Inc

Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Circles, The Bows, Spiriturn, and Colour Book
Featured music by: Owen Pallett

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Steven Lorenzo comes to the forefront of Tampa PD's investigation into the disappearance of Jason Galehouse and the death of Michael Wachholtz. Lorenzo's criminal history leads to a sting operation that ends in a very haunting search of his home, and lists of some very important names.


This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Featuring: Jason Leroy (The Binge Movie Podcast)


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Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• Uncovered
• The Tampa Bay Times
• Newspapers.com
• The Albuquerque Journal
• Amnesty International


Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Yotam Agam, Theatre of Delays, Grisly Bill, and Benjamin Esterlis
Featured music by: Jacob Fossum

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Josh's other investigative true crime podcast, Unsafe Spaces, just wrapped its first season. Binge the first four episodes here and now, then head on over to Unsafe Spaces: Tampa's Missing Men to subscribe and binge the complete season.

On December 22, 2003, two gay men were reported missing to Tampa PD. The investigations into their disappearances, would open a Pandora's Box that would force the police, the media, and society to examine how their actions and negligence led to some of Florida's most sinister crimes.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kaz.
Featuring: Eric Schmidt and Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential).

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi
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Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• Uncovered
• Clearwater Police Department
• The Tampa Bay Times: 1 2 3

Music by: Colour Book, Yehezkel Rez, Roniit, Raz Burg, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Josef Salvat

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In March and April of 2023, Josh, most of the research team, Dr. Kunkle, Bobby Chacon, and others involved in True Crime Bullsh** filmed for several weeks for Sundance TV's True Crime Story: Citizen Detective. That episode, the season finale of the series, airs this Thursday on Sundance TV, and Friday on the Sundance TV streaming app.

Check out the preview now.

https://www.sundancetv.com/shows/true-crime-story-citizen-detective--1064212

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Unsafe Spaces is an investigative, serialized true crime podcast that explores the crimes that take place in the places we’re supposed to feel safest.

In Season One: Tampa’s Missing Men, I explore how two different missing persons cases, reported on the same day, opened a Pandora’s Box of unreported assaults, cold missing persons cases, ignored rapes, and unsolved murders within Florida’s gay community; and the two men who could be responsible for all of them. Not to mention cold cases of missing gay and murdered men in Georgia, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and beyond.

Check out Unsafe Spaces: www.UnsafeSpacesPodcast.com

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The season finale.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kim K.
And research assistance by: Andrew French and Kaz.
With special thanks to Jordan Taylor, Jessica Alihodzic, illian Natale, and Bridget LaMell.

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Music by: William Hellfire, Yehezkel Rez, Whithe, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Roniit, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Heather Woods Broderick

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.




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In a new dump of documents from Anchorage PD, the research team finds new interviews with Keyes, new evidence photos, and a whole host of other new info that answers questions and begs new ones; not just in the Koenig case, but many of the most compelling cases we've looked into over the past five years of the show.

Next episode: April 27, 2023 / April 25 for Patreons at $4+

With additional research by: Jordan Taylor, Shana Wilensky, and Michelle Tooker.
And research assistance by: Andrew French, Kaz, and Kim K.
With special thanks to Jordan Taylor, Jessica Alihodzic, and Jillian Natale

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Music by: William Hellfire, Yehezkel Rez, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Emily Haines & The Soft Skeleton

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.




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In our investigation into the disappearance of Steven Earl Kraft Jr, we fill in some critical gaps in the Keyes timeline - which could have big implications. And then, we get some long-awaited documents.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by Jordan Taylor.
Research assistance by Shana Wilensky. This episode features Shana Wilensky

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, Sarah King, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by: William Hellfire, Yehezkel Rez, Sergey Cheremisinov, Radical Face, Aquartos, Itai Argaman, and pATCHES
Featured song: Electricity by Kashka

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Israel Keyes claims his philosophy on killing kids changed after the birth of his daughter. But what exactly does that mean? And what does it imply about his activities prior to 2002?

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Jordan Taylor

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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Elizabeth Weidner, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler.

Music by: William Hellfire and Yehezkel Rez
Featured song: Youth by Sarah Klang

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For the first time in 4 years, we return to Bloomington, Indiana to discuss new information regarding the cases of Israel Keyes and Lauren Spierer.

True Crime Bullsh** will return on March 23.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Ben Lamb, and Jordan Taylor

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William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Itai Argaman, Oakfield, and Denhollander.
Featured song: Here Comes the Fire by Van Stee

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The Currier files take us to Wisconsin and the greater Midwest, where two new cases have strong circumstantial evidence, a tip potentially places Keyes in the right place at the right time, and new information leads us back to Indiana.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Andrew French, and Michelle Tooker.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb and Kaz

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Resources:
• NAMUS
• The Charley Project
• Google Trends
• The Polk County Sheriff’s Department: https://www.facebook.com/PolkSO/videos/435511950380015/
• Wisconsin Missing Persons Advocacy, Inc: https://www.wimissing.org/post/rose-marie-bly-10-years-and-a-new-approach-from-police

Music by:
William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Sero, Yotam Agam, and Jordan Hatfield.
Featured song by Torres.




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A missing teen with a challenging childhood is largely ignored by local law enforcement. A lack of good information mixed with a lot of finger pointing only exacerbates an already troubled investigation. And three disappearances along a rural highway beg some serious questions about Keyes.

This episode was written and researched by Shana Wilensky.
With production, editing, and additional research by Josh Hallmark

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Lowly, Pacific Northwest, Flight of the Inner Bird, and Open Sky
Featured song: Be Here by Andrew Word

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The Debra Feldman files from Hackensack PD were just 18 pages; but it only took one to make a massive impact and prove several long-standing speculations.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Kaz, and Michelle Tooker

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Resources:
• Bureau of Transportation Statistics: https://transtats.bts.gov/ONTIME/Departures.aspx
• NJ.com; A son's torment: Believing a serial killer strangled his mother: https://www.nj.com/bergen/2013/12/a_son_tormented_believing_serial_killer_israel_keyes_strangled_his_mother_matthew_feldman_struggles.html

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William Hellfire, Radical Face, Lee Rosevere, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Dan Mayo.

Featured song: It's Not by Aimee Mann

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Four Washington state FOIA responses tell very different stories and provide new insights into old cases. And a fifth, long-awaited file drops a bomb in everyone's laps.

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Kaz.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Andrew French, and Jordan Taylor

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William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Sero, Tristan Barton, Yotam Agam, and Aquartos.

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