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Jenna and Jeff decode "FAFO", a parenting trend that is at the forefront of a new fad parenting style. Jeff and Jenna take a journey down memory lane to help them understand this "new/old" style of parenting, as well as examining parenting styles over the past fifty years. "F-around and Find out" may be the answer, or may be a bit of nostalgia.

But what happens if we raise children without consequences and accountability? Could the next generation of adults be doomed and unable to fend for themselves?

We invite you to tune into Origin of Me, a podcast created as a space for storytelling, healing, and remembering. In each episode, guests step into the role of storyteller, sharing memories, family narratives, and life experiences that ripple across generations. These personal accounts honor the legacies we carry, the pain we inherit, and the resilience we continue to pass on.

Our intention is to offer a soft landing for voices that haven’t always had a place to be heard. Together, we create a grounded and thoughtful space to explore what it means to belong, to honor our stories, and to better understand the threads of our legacy as they unfold.

Whether you're tracing your roots, breaking cycles, or simply searching for meaning, Origin of Me invites you to return to where it all began.

Senator Mallory McMorrow joins Jeff and Jenna for a conversation about reshaping how we talk, think, and engage with one another in our communities. She addresses the deepening mistrust and division in today’s political climate and shares insights from her time on the campaign trail. Drawing from her background in problem-solving, Senator McMorrow speaks candidly about her 2026 run for U.S. Senate and her bold platform centered on what she calls “Safety, Success, and Sanity.” Tune in for an inspiring discussion rooted in the belief that hate must not win.

Jeff and Jenna are joined by Judge Rosemarie Aquilina, former JAG Corp officer, lawyer, Judge, Author, lecturer who is well known for sentencing the infamous Larry Nassar at MSU.   Her latest book, to be published soon, “Speak Up”, is the subject of a lively discussion related to leading with your gut, trusting your instincts and going with the heart fully open. Join Jeff and Jenna for a true gem and advocate.

Jeff and Jenna are joined by Ilya (I love you always) who discusses his own journey from victim to victor and the importance of the men's work he has done through the Mankind Project (MKP). He announces and promotes his up-and-coming YouTube Channel and Podcast entitled "Ilya".

Jeff and Jenna sit down with Lansing Mayor Andy Schor for an engaging conversation about the exciting projects shaping the city’s future. From innovation and economic development to building a strong sense of community pride, they explore how local leadership and residents alike can help Lansing thrive as a premier destination.

In part two of the conversation on The Four Agreements, Jenna and Jeff take a deeper look at what it means to stay grounded in your truth. How can we apply the principle of not taking things personally in our relationships, work, and everyday interactions, especially when criticism or conflict arises? We’ll talk about how to develop a strong inner foundation, how to respond rather than react, and how to honor your worth without letting others define it.

In this episode, Jenna and Jeff dive into the second agreement from Don Miguel Ruiz’s The Four Agreements being, Don’t Take Anything Personally. Jenna and Jeff explore the liberating truth that what others say and do is more a reflection of their own reality than ours. Through real-life examples, insights from the book, and practical reflections, Jenna and Jeff begin to unpack how taking things personally can trap us in cycles of hurt, misunderstanding, and self-doubt. Tune in to start learning how to reclaim your emotional freedom and stop absorbing the projections of others.

Jeff and Jenna are invited to the Pokégnek Bodéwadmik (Pokagon band of Potawatomi) Peacekeeping Facilities to learn about the history, scope and importance of peacekeeping. Jason and Stacey join in the discussion seated in their sacred fire keeping room for an honest glimpse into the spiritual world of the POKAGON Band of Potawatomi. Listen in to learn more about their customs and methods for working through conflict and restoring peace.

Jeff and Jenna are invited to MSU’s Campus to learn about healing in the form of art and activism, “artivism”. They are joined by Scott Boehm, Assistant Professor of 20th/21st Spanish Culture and the Founder/Director of the MSU Latinx Film Festival. He is a Core Faculty member of the Global Studies in the Arts & Humanities Program, as well as an Affiliated Faculty member of the Film Studies Program. Dr. Boehm, currently working on a four-part documentary series highlighting the mass shooting that took place at MSU, is joined by his colleague John McKenna, Country Director (USA) for the Non-Violence Project (NVP), who works to inspire, motivate and engage people to manage and prevent conflicts without ever resorting to violence. With an educational focus based on both prevention, intervention and on measures that address root issues rather than punish behaviors or feed the blame. Together we discuss the Soul Box Project at MSU’s Broad Art Museum in recognition, remembrance , and healing after the shooting that took place at MSU two years ago.

Seasoned Michigan lawyers Jeff and Mike walk Jenna through her worker's compensation claim from start to finish. All employees should be aware of a few twists and turns if they find themselves injured at work. Listen in to find out more.

Jeff and Jenna talk with their guest Angie from the Women's Center of Greater Lansing about what the organization is all about. Jeff and Jenna find out how they and their listeners can show their support for an organization that has been helping the Lansing community for nearly 20 years. Jeff plays Santa to find out what is on the Women's Center of Greater Lansing's holiday wish list this year.

Jenna and Jeff welcome back their friends Kari and Pharra to discuss what could be next for their community in light of recent election results. Listen as the fear becomes a beacon for hope, and call to action for our future political relationships.

Join Jenna as she interviews Jeff, David, and Jay about the transformative journeys they've experienced within their men’s group. Together, they explore themes of personal growth, authentic living, and how this supportive community became a guiding force in their lives. Listen in for inspiring stories of self-discovery, friendship, and the power of a group for those seeking meaningful change.

Tune in to be inspired by stories of self-awareness, camaraderie, and the vibrant energy of a community dedicated to growth.

Jeff and Jenna dive into an honest conversation about the challenges Jenna currently faces regarding her appearance due to medical issues. Though it's a difficult topic to discuss, Jenna opens up about the medical procedure she needs and shares her journey leading up to this point.

Trigger Warning: This episode contains detailed descriptions of medical procedures. Jeff and Jenna aim to keep their episodes real, hoping their openness can offer support to others facing similar challenges.

Meet Monique Pollok: Your Guide to Navigating Social Security Disability!

In this episode, Jeff and Jenna sit down with Monique Pollok, a dedicated Social Security Disability Advocate who works tirelessly to support her clients through the complexities of the disability system. Monique shares valuable insights into the common challenges people face when applying for benefits and breaks down the essential steps for successfully securing the support they need. Whether you're just starting the application process or are stuck in the system, Monique offers expert advice to help you overcome obstacles and stay on track.

Jeff and Jenna are joined by Barbara McQuade, New York Times bestselling author of How Disinformation is Sabotaging America: Attack From Within, University of Michigan Law Professor, and NBC/MSNBC legal analyst, along with Steve Coon, Central Michigan University Journalism Professor, seven-time Michigan Press Association award winner, and former editor of The Mount Pleasant Morning Sun. Together, they dive into a thought-provoking discussion on how disinformation, lies, and AI are polarizing society and threatening the core of our democracy. They explore strategies to combat these challenges, addressing the impact of technology and social media, and highlight what we should embrace and remain cautious about as we navigate the election cycle and beyond.

Jeff and Jenna sit down with Sandy Jo, an experienced LAPD officer and conflict resolution expert, to discuss the ongoing issue of police brutality and how the LAPD has reshaped its approach to policing. Sandy Jo shares insights into the department's shift toward a community-centered model, focusing on open dialogue and mediation to resolve conflicts and ensure everyone's voice is heard.

In this episode, Sandy Jo explores how law enforcement is making meaningful connections with the community, highlighting improved methods of engagement and trust-building. Jeff and Jenna encourage listeners to consider new ways of fostering relationships between communities and the officers sworn to protect them.

In this episode, Jeff and Jenna explore the roots of labeling, tracing its history and examining the modern-day "us vs. them" mindset that permeates social interactions. They share practical tips for overcoming their own labeling habits and invite listeners to join them in fostering a more inclusive perspective.

In this episode, Jeff and Jenna delve into the pressing issue of homelessness in their community. They share their fears and concerns for the increasing number of displaced individuals, explore the community's current efforts and shortcomings, and brainstorm potential solutions. Jeff and Jenna invite their listeners to provide feedback, aiming to transform how their community discusses and addresses the challenges faced by the homeless and displaced population.

Jenna and Jeff chat with Jeff's sister Becky about an innovative approach to healing trauma by addressing where it resides in the body. Listen in as Becky shares her ongoing journey to heal old wounds and embrace new beginnings.

Join Jeff and Jenna as they welcome Taylor Sims, a certified animal nutritionist and owner of The Bow-wow-tique, specializing in canine nutrition, to the podcast. Accompanied by three adorable furry friends, Taylor shares essential tips for dog owners on how to keep their pets healthy and happy. Tune in to support an emerging business owner and dedicated student of all things dog-related!

Discover more about Taylor and her furry companions at TheBowwowtique.com.

Join Jeff and Jenna as they sit down with Brittany to explore her unique role as a "divorce coach" and "parenting time coordinator." Discover how Brittany offers her invaluable services to families navigating challenging times and learn about the transformative benefits of having a supportive divorce coach by your side.

Jeff and Jenna engage in an enlightening conversation with their esteemed guest, Galit Lurie, hailing all the way from Israel. Galit, a seasoned lawyer and mediator, delves into the transformative shift in legal practice, highlighting the recent mandate compelling disputing parties to pursue mediation and ADR services before resorting to litigation in court. This groundbreaking approach has resulted in a remarkable 50% reduction in caseloads. Join us as we explore this innovative and impactful method of addressing civil and family law matters, and prepare to broaden your perspectives on legal resolution.

Join Jeff and Jenna on their journey toward fostering peace, cultivating kindness, and embracing authenticity. In this episode, they delve into the significance of a seemingly simple yet profound word: "no."

Why does the idea of saying "no" evoke fear? How have societal norms conditioned us to default to saying "yes"? And what transformations could occur if we reclaimed the power of "no" in our lives?

Jeff and Jenna explore these inquiries, sharing personal insights and experimenting with integrating "no" into their own experiences. Tune in to uncover the latent strength within you and the transformative potential that embracing "no" could unlock in your life.

Join Jeff, Jenna, and special guests Emily Ray and Phoenix, as we delve into the transformative teachings of Don Miguel Ruiz's Toltec wisdom. In this episode, we explore the profound concept of being impeccable with our words, one of the five agreements outlined by Ruiz. Through insightful discussions and personal anecdotes, we dissect the significance of this agreement and its impact on our lives. Tune in as we navigate through the depths of Toltec philosophy, and stay tuned for our exploration of the remaining agreements in upcoming episodes.

Join hosts Jeff and Jenna as they delve into the transformative practice of not taking anything personally, inspired by the profound teachings of Don Miguel Ruiz and Don Jose Ruiz. In this episode, they sit down with special guest Dan Duncan, who shares his personal journey and experiences with this empowering philosophy.

Listen in as Dan candidly discusses the challenges he faced and the insights gained from embracing the Toltec principle of non-attachment to others' opinions and actions. From navigating criticism at work to maintaining resilience in the face of personal affronts, Dan provides practical wisdom and real-life examples of applying this liberating mindset.

Through thought-provoking conversation and reflective dialogue, Jeff, Jenna, and Dan explore the nuances of not taking anything personally and offer valuable insights for listeners seeking greater emotional freedom and self-awareness.

Tune in to uncover the transformative potential of releasing the need for external validation and reclaiming inner peace in a world of constant judgment and criticism.

Join Jenna and Jeff as they delve into the profound teachings of "The Four Agreements" by Don Miguel Ruiz. In this episode, the dynamic duo focuses on unraveling the wisdom behind the agreement of not taking anything personally. Discover the transformative power of this seemingly simple concept and how it can reshape your perspective and way of thinking.

Jenna and Jeff share their personal insights from the book, exploring the profound impact of releasing the need to internalize external events. As they challenge themselves and listeners alike, they invite you on a journey to transform communication and mindset.

Tune in to hear Jenna's practical tools for implementing the principle of not taking anything personally into daily life. Together, they aim to pave the way for a deeper understanding of self and others, ultimately contributing to the alleviation of personal suffering.

Embark on this insightful conversation with Jenna and Jeff, and let's collectively work towards ending our own contributions to unnecessary suffering.

Jeff and Jenna host a compelling conversation with Dr. Relena Ribbons, a distinguished scientist and professor, delving into the pressing issue of climate change. Together, they explore actionable steps and collective efforts that can positively impact our planet. Dr. Ribbons advocates for a collaborative approach, emphasizing unity and shared values in addressing this global challenge. Her inclusive perspective encourages listeners to rethink their attitudes and inspire proactive change in combating climate change. Join us for an enlightening discussion that aims to transform perspectives and ignite collective action.

Jenna and Jeff engage in a conversation with Terry Doxey, a practitioner of Restorative Justice and a dedicated community advocate. Terry sheds light on a time-tested process that, although ancient, is gaining fresh attention in the United States. Dive in to discover how Restorative Justice facilitators are reshaping the perspectives of American youth on conflict resolution. Explore the potential for transforming the American judicial system, step by step.

Join Jenna and Jeff as they dive into the exciting reopening of The Exchange in Downtown Lansing. In this lively episode, they are joined by Kari Magee and Kate Bearup, who share their insights on the club's transformation into an LGBTQ+, all-inclusive space that celebrates the freedom of expression.

Discover what The Exchange offers, from its meticulously crafted cocktails to its upscale tapas menu, and how it's set to become a vibrant hub for the LGBTQ+ community in the Lansing area. The hosts and their guests explore the significance of bringing a welcoming and open-minded club to the heart of downtown Lansing.

Jenna and Jeff delve deeper into the realm of labeling, with Jeff revealing his unabashed enthusiasm for all things nerdy. Together, they explore the multifaceted concept of being a "nerd" and its personal significance. In a thought-provoking discussion, Jeff and Jenna not only unpack the label but also explore broader themes. Jeff concludes by issuing a compelling challenge to their audience: to embrace a mindset of reduced labeling and to treat every individual with the dignity and respect they deserve.

Jeff and Jenna lay off the academia of conflict resolution and let listeners into their world. This "basement tapes" series begins with their walk down memory lane and begins to unfold for their listeners how Jeff and Jenna developed their passions for life and the work they both love.

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Jeff and Jenna embark on an enlightening journey to unravel the intricacies of the concealed arbitration clauses that often slip by unnoticed in our daily routines. They're driven by a shared mission: to spare their listeners from the very same sense of bewilderment and vulnerability they once experienced upon discovering unanticipated arbitration agreements. Tune in as they demystify the world of arbitration and aim to transform potential frustration into newfound clarity and empowerment.

Jenna and Jeff speak with Pharra and Kari about their lifelong journey of self-acceptance and love. A conversation about how we can all be better allies to the LGBTQ community and be the change we want to see in future generations.

Jeff and Jenna play a game based on the idea that we often hear what we want instead of what's being said. They each read song lyrics and discuss their interpretations. Jeff and Jenna discuss the importance of clear communication and the critical job of the listener.

Jenna and Jeff begin by discussing the role of Kings and Queens in chess and how those same rules apply to society. Society has a way of pitting women against one another from a young age. Jenna suggests that real Queens fix each other's crowns, supporting and empowering one another. We live in a very competitive world, but the simple truth is that women are more powerful when working together. So instead of rivalry, we should be embracing collaboration. They consider the cooperation between men, women, and humans in general. They finish by practicing a clearing exercise with one another.

Jeff and Jenna discuss Trauma, a sensitive topic that hits close to home for them, as I'm sure it also does for many listeners. They ask listeners to transform their talk around trauma, remembering that many of us carry the truth and pain of the past, clouding our vision of the present, and preventing us from taking steps into the future. Jeff and Jenna invite listeners to explore and find healthy coping skills such as movement and therapy and remind us not to take everything so personally. That others' reactions to us are not always about us but are more likely a reaction to what we represent in their past.

This week on Transform your Talk, Jeff and Jenna process their anger about the epidemic happening in our country: gun violence. Jenna drives the conversation toward solutions to keep our nation's children safe. Jenna and Jeff urge listeners to keep this conversation going and take action. We must stop letting the days pass until another inevitable, deadly mass shooting.

Jenna and Jeff conducted a social experiment to gauge public reaction in 2023. For Jenna, this experiment revisited her own childhood disability. Jenna and Jeff discuss the great superpowers and abilities that can come from having a disability.

Jeff and Jenna have a spirited conversation about the gift of conflict. That's right, the GIFT of conflict. Jeff challenges himself and his listeners to dive deep into their spiritual selves. Jenna adds a bit of humor and helps shed light on the hope she wishes for her listeners to find. 

After talking with Toby about his middle school experiences last week, Jeff and Jenna reminisce on theirs. They discuss being brave in middle school, becoming fakers, and the circle game they fell into. They challenge their listeners to step out of the circle and return to being fearless middle schoolers. 

There have already been 22 school shootings in the United States this year alone. In 2022 there were over 300. Lawmakers and school boards scramble to find solutions while parents fear sending their children to school. Amongst the chaos, we forget who is most affected by these tragic, terrifying events. What do the students think? How does the increase in security and extra "shelter-in-place" drills affect these young people? How safe do they feel? Today we are joined by 7th grader Toby to hear a fresh perspective. 

Jenna addresses her process of working through the grudges she may need to let go of. Jeff joins her on this journey and weighs in to impart some gems of wisdom to help Jenna and Transform your Talk listeners on their journey towards freedom. 

Jeff teaches Jenna a thing or two about this up-and-coming sport and how conflict arises while playing. He shares his years of problem solving skills to listeners to help them with conflict resolution in their own lives, on and off the court. 

Jenna and Jeff had an experience that sparked this two-part conversation that helps them unpack the fall out from their own experience of rage, but also shares with listeners some hints that might help them express the rage in their own lives in a healthy way. 

Jenna and Jeff work through the divorce process and mediation while sharing practical tools along the way

Welcome to Transform your Talk with your hosts, Jenna and Jeff. Two mediators who together have worked on over 500 cases. Join us this season as we navigate conflict, explore the overlooked, and learn to understand each other. Jenna and Jeff share how their business came to be, following their visions, fulfilling a mission of conflict resolution and eternal peacekeeping.