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David Moss | The Nature Conservancy | Ep. 1027
Wednesday, September 9, 2026 • Duration 01:11:38
Red snapper season in the South Atlantic got shut down the night before it opened — and most anglers still don't really know why. In this one, I sit down with David Moss, Fisheries Project Manager for The Nature Conservancy, to break the whole thing down in plain English: what an EFP actually is, the lawsuit that closed the season, why managers and anglers see two completely different oceans, and the surprising reason keeping your spots secret might be the very thing costing you fishing days.
David's a Florida-born fisherman first and a fisheries guy second, and he makes the case for why the catch data you throw away — including the days you get skunked — is exactly what the fishery needs to open more seasons, not fewer.
We get into:
Why red snapper are stacked up in the Atlantic but you can't keep one
How "rare event species" like tilefish and snowy grouper get shortchanged by old data
The truth about whether your secret numbers are actually safe in reporting apps
Gulf vs. Atlantic red snapper — two fisheries, same fish
The Goliath grouper problem everyone sees but no one can prove
How to actually get involved if you're fed up
Get in touch or get involved:
David Moss — david.moss@tnc.org
The Nature Conservancy Florida fishing: nature.org/floridafishing
Reporting apps mentioned: iAngler, Got One, MyFWC, Vessel
Councils: South Atlantic Fishery Management Council, Gulf of America Fishery Management Council, FWC
Also mentioned: Angler Action Foundation, West Palm Beach Fishing Club
Brought to you by Star brite — makers of Salt Off and a full line of boat care products, and a company doing real work in conservation. starbrite.com
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro & catching up (mangroves, lobster mini season)
02:20 – What The Nature Conservancy actually does
04:30 – Red snapper: what happened and why the season closed
07:30 – EFPs explained in plain terms + the lawsuit
10:00 – Three states reapply — what a real season could look like
12:00 – App-based reporting and the data managers need
14:00 – Discards, barotrauma & why released fish still count
15:30 – Deep-water "rare event species" & TNC's pilot project
17:30 – "Why should I give them my data?" — the honest answer
23:00 – How catch data gets collected now (dock surveys & mail-in)
25:30 – Do the apps work offshore? Are your spots protected?
33:30 – Gulf vs. Atlantic red snapper
37:00 – ACLs, sectors & how commercial reporting works
40:00 – How David got hooked on fisheries management
44:00 – The Goliath grouper problem
47:30 – How to get involved (councils, clubs, public comment)
51:00 – Soccer, family & a coaching detour
54:30 – From landscaping to The Nature Conservancy
59:00 – The one message: your information matters
1:04:30 – Secret spots, hunters vs. anglers & sharing data
1:09:30 – Wrap-up & resources
Capt Dylan Hubbard | Hubbard's Marina | Ep. 1026
Wednesday, September 2, 2026 • Duration 01:24:53
Everybody keeps asking me about red snapper — why they're everywhere and you can't keep them in one place, and nowhere to be found in another. So I brought on someone who lives on both sides of that fight.
Dylan Hubbard is VP of Hubbard's Marina in Madeira Beach — a fourth-generation, nearly 100-year-old operation — and he's also president of the Florida Guides Association, VP of the Charter Fisherman's Association, and chair of the Gulf Council Reef Fish Advisory Panel. He's one of the only guests we've had who's both a working charter operator and deeply embedded in the federal fisheries decision-making process. That combination makes this one of the clearest breakdowns of what's really happening with our fishery that I've heard.
In this conversation we get into:
Why red snapper is a Gulf success story but a crisis in the South Atlantic — and how discard mortality quietly shrinks the season every year
The EFP fight, the 11th-hour injunction, and MRIP vs. state (SRFS) data — why "letting them guess" hurts anglers
How his grandfather's handwritten notes from a 1988 meeting let Dylan change federal law in two meetings to save his 39-hour trips
The gag grouper rebound, the lag between what we see on the water and what the science says, and where AI is starting to change fisheries research
Getting fired by his own dad — and reopening the marina five days after Hurricane Helene
"If you're not in the room, you're on the menu." If you care about the future of the fishery, this is the one to watch.
Connect with Dylan & Hubbard's Marina:
🌐 hubbardsmarina.com
📺 Hubbard's Marina on YouTube & Facebook — plus their live Q&A show every second Sunday of the month, 7:30 PM ET
📞 Text or call 727-393-1947
✉️ info@hubbardsmarina.com
This episode is brought to you by Star Brite — makers of Salt Off and a full line of products to take care of your boat, and a company that gives back through conservation. Check them out.
Rich Hernandez | "Do Hard Things 365" | Ep. 1025
Tuesday, August 25, 2026 • Duration 22:16
Rich Hernandez can do 5,000 push-ups without ever touching his knees — and he's
chasing a world record that hasn't been broken since 1980. But as he tells me
here, it was never really about the push-ups. This time we're in person, right
after a morning workout together, digging into how an MIT engineer with a Yale
MBA walked away from the aerospace world to preach the gospel of hard work — and
why the same process that took him from 40 push-ups to 5,000 (and a 7-minute
plank to a 4-hour one) applies just as much to your business, your parenting,
and anything else you're trying to get better at.
Presented by Star brite — clean and protect your boat: https://bit.ly/4o80cws
▶ Rich's first time on the show (EP 974: Record-Breaking Conquest):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wL-YJXbbZM
CHAPTERS
00:00 Welcome + Star brite (live and in person)
01:00 The push-up guy: 5,000 reps and chasing the world record
02:00 Receipts: livestreams and 12,345 push-ups in a day
04:00 From MIT and Northrop Grumman to a Yale MBA
05:00 The gospel of hard work: 333,000 push-ups in a year
06:00 What the family business taught him
08:00 How getting better at one thing spills into everything
10:00 Veronica, "Life Is Good," and the power of agency
12:00 The push-up progression: 40 to 5,000
14:00 Atomic Habits, 1% better, and the hockey stick
15:00 The planking journey: 7 minutes to 4 hours
17:00 Why the first five months are the hardest
18:00 Consistency, accuracy, intensity
19:00 The traveling salesman problem
21:00 Where to follow Rich
FOLLOW RICH — Do Hard Things 365
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Dohardthings365
Instagram: @dohardthings365
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Captain Brandon McGraw is a Space Coast fishing guide who runs Space Coast Sport Fishing out of the Melbourne area, working the Mosquito Lagoon, the Indian River, and Sebastian Inlet on Florida's east-central coast. A retired firefighter with 20 years at Orlando Fire Department, he now guides full time for redfish, seatrout, and some of the largest snook in Florida. In this episode he explains how the Mosquito Lagoon clawed back from its seagrass collapse, why the Sebastian area grows oversized snook, and the small details that decide light-tackle tournaments.
Dr. John Carlson | NOAA Fish Biologist and Shark Assessment Expert | Ep. 1023
Wednesday, August 12, 2026 • Duration 01:14:54
Shark depredation is when a shark eats a hooked or landed fish before an angler can bring it in, and in Florida it has become one of the most contested issues on the water. In this episode I sit down with Dr. John Carlson, a research fish biologist with NOAA Fisheries who has spent 25 years studying shark and sawfish populations, to work through the question anglers keep asking me: how can there be too many sharks and a global shark decline at the same time?
Press play above to watch, or scroll down to listen to the full conversation.
Dr. Kevin Stone | Orthopedic Surgeon | Ep. 1022
Wednesday, August 5, 2026 • Duration 54:07
Tom Rowland Podcast Episode 1022 is a conversation with Dr. Kevin Stone, the San Francisco orthopedic surgeon behind The Stone Clinic, about biologic knee replacement — rebuilding a worn joint with donor meniscus cartilage and regrown articular cartilage instead of replacing it with metal. We also cover what “bone on bone” actually means, partial versus total knee replacement, robotic cementless implants, PRP and stem cell recruitment, the truth about BPC-157, and why he thinks most people told they need a total knee replacement do not.
Jonathan Godbout | American Ninja Warrior | Ep. 1021
Tuesday, July 28, 2026 • Duration 01:02:36
Jonathan Godbout is a four-time American Ninja Warrior competitor and three-time national finalist who is now training to break the 24-hour Murph world record: 21 Murphs in a single day. That's 40 miles of running, 2,000 pull-ups, 4,000 push-ups, and 6,000 air squats — all in a 20-pound vest.
We get into how he's training for it, why he's chasing a sub-35-minute Murph, how he plans to pace one Murph every hour on the hour, and what four seasons of Ninja Warrior taught him about doing hard things.
Captain Adria Gutierrez | "Angling with Adira" | Ep. 1020
Wednesday, July 22, 2026 • Duration 01:06:45
Tom Rowland Podcast Episode 1020 is a conversation with Adria Gutierrez, a Venice, Florida charter captain who live-streams her entire fishing charters on TikTok. She runs inshore, nearshore, and offshore trips out of Venice, Boca Grande, and Charlotte Harbor, holds federal permits, and has turned a full-day live stream into a booking engine, a shirt business, and a source of viewer tips.Listen now: Apple Podcasts · Spotify · YouTube
Andy Strelcheck is the Regional Administrator for NOAA Fisheries’ Southeast Regional Office, working with federal fisheries throughout the Gulf, South Atlantic, and U.S. Caribbean. I brought Andy back on the podcast to get a direct explanation of what happened when the proposed South Atlantic red snapper season was stopped less than a day before Florida’s opening date.
We break down exempted fishing permits, recreational catch surveys, discard mortality, descending devices, fish tagging, red snapper stock assessments, and the frustrating situation where fishermen can see more fish while receiving less access. Andy also explains why anglers should participate in fishing surveys, how missing information increases uncertainty, and why there is encouraging news for several grouper and snapper fisheries.
If you liked this episode, share it with a friend, rate the show, and stay tuned for more unfiltered conversations.
Dennis Friel | Marine Artist | Ep. 1018
Wednesday, July 8, 2026 • Duration 01:32:13
Tom Rowland Podcast Episode 1018 is a conversation with marine life artist Dennis Friel, host of the Connected by Water podcast, on what it actually takes to paint fish for a living — from the Star brite SeaSafe event and a live-painted mahi, to leaving a 17-year music-business career, to whether AI is the next Napster for working artists, and where he really stands on Florida's shark debate.
