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Episode 4 | ENGAGEMENT: We're not afraid to get our hands dirty and our hearts broken30 Mar 202600:41:46

What does true engagement look like? Join Dr. Decibel in conversation with Katie Hinshaw and Savannah Smith, coordinators of Refuge Reads—a free community tutoring program serving students ages 5 to 65.

Discover the transformative power of showing up fully: from advocating for an abused student, to teaching a grandmother to read her Bible, to the profound connection between literacy and justice. Katie and Savannah share what it means to step in rather than step back, building community through presence, courage, and authentic connection. 

This is engagement—hands dirty, hearts open, lives changed. 

Hosted by: Dr. Decibel 

Featuring: Katie Hinshaw and Savannah Smith, Refuge Reads Coordinators 

Produced by Dr. Decibel Productions 

Learn more at therefugeonline.org 


Episode 3 | Presence: Strangers Become Family Here23 Mar 202600:21:17

Dr. Decibel explores the power of simply showing up in real relationships over time with Nanette Bezjak and Andrea Gamboa. From Andrea's journey as an unhoused person finding community at The Refuge, to Nanette's daily work walking alongside people in crisis, this episode reveals how consistent presence transforms strangers into family. They discuss breaking down isolation, building trust, and the profound impact of being present for others—not fixing problems, but showing up again and again. 

Hosted by: Dr. Decibel 

Featuring: Nanette Bezjak (Single Moms Coordinator) and Andrea Gamboa (Peer Advocate) 

Produced by Dr. Decibel Productions

Learn more: therefugeonline.org 


Episode 2 | Welcome: There's Always Room at Our Table16 Mar 202600:32:01

In this episode, we explore the first and foundational core value of The Refuge: Welcome. Dr. Decibel sits down with Kathy Escobar, one of The Refuge's founders, and Steve Palmer, a peer advocate at the Refuge, to unpack what it really means to create a table where everyone belongs. 

Rooted in twelve-step recovery principles, The Refuge has built a community where diversity isn't just tolerated—it's celebrated. From "the land of misfit toys" to a thriving network of over 90 community partners, this conversation reveals how welcome extends beyond warm greetings to include radical inclusion, corrective experiences, and the hard work of holding both grace and accountability. 

Featuring: Kathy Escobar (Co-founder, The Refuge) and Steve Palmer (Peer Support Team) 

Hosted by: Dr. Decibel 

Produced by Dr. Decibel Productions. Learn more at therefugeonline.org 


Episode 1: The Dream Begins...02 Mar 202600:34:27

Welcome to This is The Refuge, our 20th Anniversary Limited Series podcast. Before diving into our 6 core values, meet the people who started it all. Join Dr. Decibel in conversation with co-founders Kathy Escobar and Mike Herzog as they share the raw, honest story of how The Refuge was born—not from a polished plan, but from pain, deconstruction, and a dream for something radically different. 

From their evangelical roots to their messy break from traditional church, Kathy and Mike reveal how Recovery circles taught them what real healing looks like: tables instead of pews, conversations instead of sermons, and a community where doubters and believers sit side by side. Twenty years later, The Refuge has evolved from a small church experiment into a thriving community hub serving over 1,000 people through 14+ programs—from the Refuge Café to Trader Joe's food distribution reaching 80+ families weekly. to Refuge Reads to Single Moms Unite and so muchmore.

This is where it all began—broken systems, bold dreams, and a commitment to people over programs. 

Hosted by: Dr. Decibel Featuring: Kathy Escobar and Mike Herzog, Co-Founders 

Produced by: Dr. Decibel Productions 

Learn more at therefugeonline.org 


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