Explore every episode of the podcast Think Outside with the Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation
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| Welcome to Think Outside with the Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation | 14 Apr 2025 | 00:01:13 | |
Welcome to Think Outside with the Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation! Think Outside is your guide to outdoor opportunities, nature exploration, and wellness. Discover expert tips, inspiring stories, and new ways to connect with the great outdoors for a healthier, happier life. 🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Exploring the Laurel Highlands Hiking Trail with Mike Mumau | 19 May 2025 | 00:23:11 | |
“Starting and ending can depend on where your journey begins” Stretching just over 70 miles, the Laurel Highlands Hiking Trail winds through four Pennsylvania counties, crossing ridgelines, game lands, and private forests. Starting in Ohiopyle State Park, the trail climbs north through Somerset, Westmoreland, and Cambria, offering dramatic views, deep solitude, and hard-won miles. Our host, Marci Mowery, chats with Division Manager Mike Mumau about this beautiful area. It's not easy terrain—steep, rocky, and carved from the Appalachian Plateau—but that's part of the draw. As Mike puts it, the trail offers something rare: real quiet. Winter hikes are his favorite, when the forest is still and snow muffles every sound but your footsteps—and maybe a dog’s, too, since pets are welcome. Shelters appear every 8–10 miles, each with five Adirondack-style structures, two privies, and a primitive water source (bring a filter). In colder months, firewood is stocked to keep hikers warm. Maintenance is handled by the Laurel Hill Complex, supported by passionate volunteers like the Ridge Runners, many of whom began by training for the Laurel Highlands Ultra—a 70-mile trail race that requires entrants to give back with volunteer hours. Behind the scenes, partnerships with organizations like the Western Pennsylvania Conservancy helped secure key land parcels, and some original trail builders still return to help. The trail’s 50th anniversary marks not just its endurance, but the care and vision that shaped it through the years. Want to hike it? Call the Laurel Hill Complex. Staff know the trail and can suggest ideal sections based on your goals. For prep tips, check out Dane Cramer’s site and his book Romancing the Trail. This is more than a trail—it’s a shared legacy. One that challenges, welcomes, and rewards those who walk it. Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Exploring Hills Creek State Park with Ben Stone | 05 May 2025 | 00:28:18 | |
Nestled in Tioga County between Mansfield and Wellsboro, Hills Creek State Park offers a peaceful retreat surrounded by farmland. Unlike other regional parks, it’s bordered by private land, giving it a quiet, remote feel—yet it's conveniently close to town. Our host, Marci Mowery, chats with Division Manager Ben Stone about this beautiful area. A key feature is its 137-acre warm-water lake, great for year-round fishing, especially bass and panfish. In winter, it’s one of the first to freeze, with over a foot of ice this past season. For ice safety, 4 inches of clear ice is ideal, and it’s always best to go with a buddy and carry safety gear. Open year-round, Hills Creek features cabins, yurts, and 83 campsites, including full hookups and basic sites for tents. The yurts, perched by the lake, are upgraded with real windows, kitchenettes, and offer stunning views. The campground is family-friendly, with pet sites and low-speed roads perfect for kids on bikes. There are several scenic hiking trails, including parts of the Mid-State Trail and interpretive walks like Yellow Birch Trail. The park is also popular for wildlife and bird watching, especially during spring migrations and beaver activity around the lake. Maple syruping is a seasonal highlight. Visitors can watch traditional tapping and learn about syrup production—40 gallons of sap make one gallon of syrup! Hills Creek has even won friendly syrup-making competitions among state parks. The park is maintained by a dedicated team, including office staff, maintenance workers, educators, and rangers. They work year-round to keep facilities running and assist visitors. Career paths in the park system range from internships to full-time roles in law enforcement and environmental education. As part of the Pennsylvania Wilds, Hills Creek is surrounded by state forests and trails, including the Pine Creek Rail Trail. Whether you're camping, hiking, or birding, it's a perfect spot to enjoy nature. Always plan ahead, let someone know your route, and enjoy all the park has to offer—safely. Key Topics:
Resources: 🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Exploring Presque Isle and Erie Bluffs State Parks with Matt Greene | 21 Apr 2025 | 00:31:08 | |
Presque Isle State Park is one of Pennsylvania’s most visited and ecologically diverse parks—an ever-changing landscape shaped by wind, water, and time. Today our host Marci Mowery chats with Matt Greene, Park Manager of Presque Isle and nearby Erie Bluffs, to explore what makes this peninsula on Lake Erie so unique. Presque Isle (meaning “almost island” in French) is home to a rare Great Lakes ecosystem, with more threatened and endangered species than any other similarly sized area in the state. With seven and a half miles of sandy shoreline, it offers not only guarded beaches and scenic trails but also opportunities for birdwatching, kayaking, and fishing. Its 13-mile multipurpose trail loops the park, revealing diverse views—from downtown Erie to quiet bays filled with migrating birds. Presque Isle’s dynamic nature sets it apart. Water levels and wind constantly reshape the shoreline, influencing erosion patterns and altering habitats. In one season, parts of the park may flood or recede, creating a landscape that looks entirely different from year to year. This constant motion feeds vibrant ecosystems and creates a haven for wildlife, including over 300 bird species. Warblers, purple martins, and gulls flock here, especially during key migration periods. Nearby Erie Bluffs offers a wilder experience—an undeveloped shoreline with prime beach glass hunting and fewer crowds. While Presque Isle is carefully maintained, including beach nourishment, the Bluffs present nature untouched. The park’s rich history includes the 1921 establishment of Presque Isle, its lighthouse-turned-museum, and even a D-Day reenactment on Beach 11. Matt believes that what makes the park special is how it changes—and how those changes leave lasting memories. Whether you’re spotting rare birds, catching bass, or simply walking the beach, no two visits are ever the same! Key Topics:
Resources: 🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Inside the Outdoors with Secretary Cindy Adams Dunn | 21 Apr 2025 | 00:36:07 | |
What do a legacy of conservation, a changing climate, and your own backyard have in common? As it turns out—everything. Our host, Marci Mowery is joined by Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (DCNR) Secretary Cindy Adams Dunn to discuss how public lands, local stewardship, and the wisdom of the past are shaping a greener future. Pennsylvania’s state parks and forests weren’t always the thriving natural havens they are today. In the late 1800s, widespread deforestation and environmental degradation inspired early conservationists like Joseph T. Rothrock and Mira Lloyd Dock to push for reform. Their efforts laid the groundwork for a movement that, decades later, would lead to the creation of the Civilian Conservation Corps, which helped restore much of the landscape and built key infrastructure still in use today. Today, the work continues. With increasing threats from climate change, invasive species, and urbanization, conservation is more urgent—and more community-driven—than ever. A proposed 125th park may soon join the park system and the 2.2 million acres of state forests lands are managed with long-term sustainability in mind. Everyone can play a role. Whether it’s showing up to a park program, planting a native tree, or simply taking a new trail, active engagement matters. Nature doesn’t just belong to us—it’s part of us. And in preserving it, we’re preserving something far greater than scenery: we’re preserving our future. Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Who We Are, What We Love, and Why We Think Outside with Marci Mowery and Pam Metzger | 21 Apr 2025 | 00:23:45 | |
Welcome to the inaugural episode of Think Outside! Marci Mowery and Pam Metzger kick things off with an introduction to the podcast and the Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation (PPFF). They also reflect on some of their favorite outdoor adventures! In Pennsylvania, the outdoors offer more than recreation—they offer renewal. Whether through hiking, cycling, photography, or simply sitting quietly under a tree, Marci and Pam believe that time spent in nature is a boon to your physical, mental, and emotional well-being. While the mission of the Foundation is to inspire stewardship of state parks and forests, a goal is toto ensure a place and an experience for everyone in the outdoors. As a nonprofit partner to the state’s parks and forests, PPFF empowers people to get involved through volunteering, advocacy, or simply showing up. With 46 Friends Groups across the state, they help protect public lands and make them more accessible for future generations. Access matters. Nature is not a luxury; it’s public good. And everyone, regardless of background or ability, should have the chance to benefit from it. PPFF champions that belief through everything from infrastructure improvements to educational resources like park guides and fact sheets. Whether you're seeking solitude, family-friendly trails, or a chance to give back, there’s an entry point for all stages of life. In a time when so much demands our attention, the outdoors remains a constant—a place to reset, reflect, and reconnect. And thanks to organizations like PPFF, these spaces continue to belong to all of us. Protected. Preserved. And always open. Key Topics:
Resources: 🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| “Loyalsock State Forest: Wild, Quiet, Unforgettable” with Rich Glinski | 16 Jun 2025 | 00:39:59 | |
“It’s embracing the solitude of the forest that I think brings the most amount of reward to people.” Nestled in Pennsylvania's Endless Mountains, Loyalsock State Forest spans 115,000 acres across Sullivan, Bradford, and Lycoming counties. Our host, Marci Mowery, talks with District Forester Rich Glinski, who calls Loyalsock “rugged, pristine, and beautiful”—an apt summary for a forest full of remote waterfalls, cliff overlooks, and legacy trails like the 59-mile Loyalsock Trail and the historic Old Loggers Path. Named 2025’s Forest of the Year, Loyalsock is more than scenic; it's a dynamic landscape balancing recreation with energy development, timber management, and environmental conservation. Visitors hike, rock climb, fish, paddle, hunt, and drive along 130 miles of well-maintained forest roads. Popular sites include the Haystacks, Angel Falls, and High Knob Overlook, while lesser-known gems like Yellow Dog Falls reward the adventurous. Rich makes sure to highlight the deep-rooted human connection to the forest. Generations of families return here, often aided by decades of stewardship from volunteers like the Alpine Club of Williamsport. Rich histories, including Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) legacy sites and Indigenous trails such as the Sheshequin and Towanda Paths, quietly shape the terrain. Floods, wild weather, and even the occasional llama on a trail are all part of the forester’s unpredictable job. Still, seeing visitors having the time of their lives as they experience Loyalsock makes it all worth it for Rich. He urges newcomers to come prepared: maps over phones, water in the pack, and a plan shared with friends. Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Inside Pennsylvania’s State Parks: A Conversation with John Hallas | 02 Jun 2025 | 00:32:08 | |
Pennsylvania is home to one of the most accessible state park systems in the nation. With 124 parks—and a 125th on the way—the state offers free admission and parking, a rarity in the U.S. This isn’t just policy; it’s principle. Our host, Marci Mowery, chats with the Director of the Pennsylvania Bureau of State Parks, John Hallas, who states, these parks are 'democratizing spaces,' open to all, regardless of income or background. Each park reflects the state's natural and cultural diversity, from the historic battlegrounds of Valley Forge to the quiet trails of Boyd Big Tree Preserve. Whether you're hiking, skiing, or exploring Revolutionary War sites, the experience is intentionally broad. It’s about meeting people where they are—physically, emotionally, and recreationally. During the pandemic, visitation to state parks jumped 27%, highlighting just how vital these spaces are for public health and well-being. Even as life returns to normal, use remains high. The state is responding with forward-thinking projects like expanded trail access, diverse overnight options including yurts and “great gathering” family sites, and the development of its first underground park, Laurel Caverns. These efforts are guided by the Penn’s Parks for All plan, a strategic blueprint focused on accessibility, infrastructure, and conservation. The state is also reinvesting in its aging facilities—many built during the Civilian Conservation Corps era—while adapting to modern recreation trends like e-bikes and paddleboards. Ultimately, Pennsylvania’s parks aren’t just green space. They’re public assets with cultural, economic, and environmental value. And in an era where so much comes at a cost, they remain free—on purpose. Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Cabins and Campsites and Yurts, Oh My! with Matt Crosbie and Beth Grove | 30 Jun 2025 | 00:37:03 | |
From primitive campsites deep in the woods to full-hookup RV spots and cozy yurts, Pennsylvania offers a wide spectrum of overnight options for every outdoor adventurer! Joined by our host Marci Mowery to discuss these camping and lodging options are Matt Crosbie, Non-motorized Recreation Specialist at the Bureau of Forestry, and Beth Grove, Park Operations Manager at the Bureau of State Parks. Matt breaks down the rustic side: 2.2 million acres of state forest provide opportunities for backpackers, roadside campers, and water trail explorers. Minimal amenities mean packing in—and out—is essential, but the payoff is solitude, waterfalls, and vast trail systems. Meanwhile, Beth showcases the more developed side, with over 6,000 campsites and 400 roofed facilities ranging from rustic cabins to the hotel-like Nature Inn. They also share a handful of pro tips: use the reservation system’s alert feature, check for permit rules, and always be a good steward. Whether you're an equestrian camper, a Scout group leader, or a first-timer trying out a modern cabin, there’s a fit for you. Start with a yurt, graduate to a trail, or settle into a lodge—Pennsylvania’s parks and forests meet you where you are! Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| "Lake Views and Forest Trails: Prince Gallitzin State Park Uncovered" with Jessica Lavelua | 14 Jul 2025 | 00:32:15 | |
Tucked into the mountains of south-central Pennsylvania, Prince Gallitzin State Park is a scenic haven where lake recreation meets forest solitude. Our host, Marci Mowery, is joined by Park Manager Jess Lavelua, who paints a vivid picture of this 6,000-acre park anchored by Glendale Lake and its 1,600 acres of water. Whether you’re casting a line from a kayak, relaxing in a modern cabin with lake views, or attending one of the Friends Group’s massive fall events, Prince Gallitzin has something for everyone. There are 35 miles of underutilized trails, a thriving Friends group that powers festivals like Apple Cider Fest and Trunk or Treats, and a range of wildlife from bald eagles to mischievous beavers. For Jess, stewardship means everything—from planting trees to helping rescue an injured eagle. Prince Gallitzin is also a leader in sustainability with a large solar array feeding clean energy back into the park system. Come for the lake views, stay for the quiet moments—Prince Gallitzin is where nature makes you feel at home. Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Behind the Badge: The Work of DCNR Rangers | 31 Jul 2025 | 00:31:14 | |
“There's a lot of days where I kind of have to pinch myself and realize, ‘Oh, I'm out hiking a trail that somebody probably took off work to go hike, but I get to do it and get paid.’” From boat patrols to timber theft investigations, DCNR Rangers Sam and Dani chat with our host Marci Mowery about the diverse and demanding world of protecting Pennsylvania's parks and forests and their visitors. With over 30 years of combined experience, these stewards balance multiple roles—educator, law enforcement officer, conservationist, and much more. Whether it's helping lost hikers find their way, protecting endangered plant species, or managing crowds during busy holiday weekends, no two days are alike. Sam patrols 97,000 acres of Rothrock State Forest with just one partner, relying on a network of regular visitors as "eyes and ears." Meanwhile, Dani navigates the "urban jungle" of Codorus State Park, where eagles nest and visitors need guidance on everything from alcohol restrictions to wildlife encounters. Both rangers believe that enforcement often starts with education, as visitors navigate varying regulations across states and between parks and forests. Despite challenges—from public misconceptions about law enforcement to physically demanding rescues in 95-degree heat—they find deep satisfaction in protecting resources for future generations and their visitors. To aspiring rangers, they encourage being mission-driven, physically fit, and prepared for weekends, holidays, and maybe even the odd four-foot snakebite story from an adventurous young visitor!
Key Topics: ● A Ranger’s Daily Responsibilities: Parks vs. Forests (5:40) ● Balancing Education and Enforcement (8:53) ● Memorable Interactions and Stories (11:11) ● Rangers' Role in Conservation (16:06) ● Challenges of Modern Ranger Work (21:35) ● Search and Rescue Prevention Tips (24:30) ● Advice for Aspiring Rangers (26:07)
Resources: · To learn more about Ranger careers, click here · DCNR Ranger Coloring and Activity Book (English) · DCNR Ranger Coloring and Activity Book (Spanish) 🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Building the Next Generation of Conservation Leaders with Mike Piaskowski | 28 Jul 2025 | 00:33:20 | |
“You can't help but be changed by being involved in this program, whether it's through training, working with other people, interpersonal skills, leadership, all those types of things, problem solving, [etc.]" Celebrating its 10th anniversary, the Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps continues to shape the next generation of conservation leaders through hands-on work, meaningful mentorship, and powerful partnerships. Our host, Marci Mowery, chats with program director Mike Piaskowski, who shares how this youth and young adult initiative has grown from a small pilot to a workforce pipeline that reaches across parks, forests, and community spaces throughout the Commonwealth. Crews aged 15–25 tackle everything from trail restoration to pavilion construction and even archaeological site preservation. Through real-world problem solving, teamwork, and technical training—including chainsaw safety, CPR, and OSHA certification—participants build confidence, resilience, and a lifelong conservation ethic. With over 1,500 alumni and growing, the program has already placed graduates in agencies like DCNR, the Game Commission, and beyond. The Outdoor Corps also offers specialty crews, including one focused on cultural resources and another for American Sign Language inclusion—proving that the program’s reach is both wide and deeply personal. Above all, it creates space for growth, connection, and knowledge transfer between generations.
Key Topics: ● Outdoor Corps Mission and Origins (01:36) ● Technical Projects and Training (03:34) ● Team Building and Growth Mindset (06:50) ● Partnerships and Public Benefit (13:16) ● Career Pathways and Alumni Impact (15:31) ● Specialty Crews and Inclusion (18:38) ● How to Join or Support the Corps (23:27) ● Vision for the Future (29:26)
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Seasons, Springs, and Stewardship at RB Winter with Manager Michael Crowley | 11 Aug 2025 | 00:34:25 | |
"Some say that the best thing about this park is that there is no cell signal. If you need to disconnect from the world, from the electronic world, you can do that here." Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Park Manager Mike Crowley as he reveals why RB Winter State Park remains a cherished destination for families seeking authentic outdoor experiences in Pennsylvania's wilderness. Nestled within 200,000 acres of Bald Eagle Forest, this 695-acre park offers a unique blend of history and nature. Built by CCC workers in 1933, it features Pennsylvania's first stone and concrete dam of its kind—a testament to lost craftsmanship that modern construction can't replicate. Despite locals still calling it "Halfway Dam" (its name until 1957), the park has evolved into a multi-generational favorite. From its frigid 45-degree spring-fed lake to miles of rocky mountain biking trails, RB Winter offers a great challenge for outdoor thrill seekers of all levels. The park office hummingbird feeders attract dozens of ruby-throats, while the pristine Rapid Run Nature Trail preserves near-virgin hemlock forests. Mike manages not just RB Winter but three additional parks, including Pennsylvania's smallest at three acres. After weathering devastating storms that destroyed pavilions and hundreds of trees, the park has rebounded with increased biodiversity. He advises visitors to bring layers, grab a paper map (cell service doesn't exist here), and in general, enjoy the great outdoors without all the distractions of modern technology!
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Exploring Worlds End State Park with Educator Jane Swift | 25 Aug 2025 | 00:38:13 | |
“There are families that have been coming here for five generations, and occasionally all five are here. And that's pretty amazing.” Our host, Marci Mowery, is joined by Environmental Education Specialist Jane Swift, who shares why World's End State Park has captivated visitors for 93 years in Pennsylvania's Endless Mountains region. Controversy sparked the park's beginning when geologists in 1932 wanted to name it after the S-shaped whirlpool in Loyalsock Creek, but locals insisted on "World's End." A discovered 1940s map proved them right. Today, this Sullivan County gem offers adventures around every trail curve with seven scenic vistas, some accessible by car for those unable to hike the canyon's 700-foot elevation changes. Jane, who has been educating visitors since 1998, transforms the park into a living classroom. From maple syrup production using the park's abundant sugar maples to wildflower walks highlighting spring ephemera, she connects generations to nature. Her proudest memory involves hosting Pennsylvania Outdoor Life's TV crew, sharing edible plants and sumac-ade by the creek. The park's 19 rustic cabins welcome winter guests seeking fireside retreats, while summer brings swimmers to the perpetually refreshing Loyalsock Creek. CCC workers transformed this logged-out landscape in the 1930s, building the infrastructure still enjoyed today. Frank Sattler, a CCC alumnus, even donated a detailed model of camp life displayed in the visitor center. Families return generation after generation, drawn by poor cell service that forces real connection. The Friends of World's End enhance experiences through volunteer work and the famous Mud Day celebration each June. As Jane notes, this is where "adventure, forest, and creek" create irreplaceable family memories in Pennsylvania's wilderness.
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Sunrise Hikes & Social Shares: Adventures with OneEyeWanderz and TheDapperHiker | 08 Sep 2025 | 00:47:18 | |
“I just really like attracting other people to get outside. That’s kind of my goal right now, is to get as many people outdoors as possible.” Our host, Marci Mowery, chats with two Pennsylvania hikers turned social media influencers, OneEyeWanderz and TheDapperHiker, who are reshaping how people discover the state's outdoor spaces through authentic storytelling and hard-won experience. Dapper began hiking after losing 150 pounds starting in 2022. His first backpacking trip to Quehanna State Forest (a rain-soaked, 26-mile ordeal where hypothermia threatened) paradoxically hooked him on wilderness exploration. The trail name came when OneEye spotted him grooming his mustache mid-hike and declared him "dapper." His Instagram grew from 84 to 3,500 followers within a year by showcasing Pennsylvania's often-overlooked trails. OneEye had hiked Pennsylvania since childhood but resisted social media until a pine branch almost left him to live up to his moniker. Multiple surgeries saved his vision but changed his perspective. Suddenly, sharing nature's beauty became urgent. Both guys now balance full-time jobs with creating content that demystifies outdoor access. Their philosophy rejects gatekeeping. They share exact locations, fishing flies used, and trail conditions. Basically, everything newcomers need. For one thing, they don’t believe that you need $200 hiking boots to get started (OneEye's brother successfully hiked in duct-taped moon boots early on!). Pennsylvania offers what western states do "on a smaller screen": free state parks, terrain changing every mile, and accessible adventures. The guys’ top recommendations include Quehanna for experienced hikers seeking elk and diverse ecosystems, Ricketts Glen for beginners wanting waterfalls, and Cook Forest for families. They advocate Leave No Trace principles while acknowledging most outdoor experiences don't require 23-mile treks.
Key Topics: ● Inspiration to Get Outdoors (1:24) ● Pennsylvania's Unique Diversity (6:49) ● Removing the Gatekeeper (14:41) ● Leave No Trace Advocacy (23:18) ● Park Recommendations (34:44) ● Type 2 Fun Philosophy (39:50)
Resources: · ITravel_4Coffee on Instagram · How to Take a Picture of a Fish · Podcast Episode on Loyalsock State Forest · Podcast Episode on Worlds End State Park · Happy Little Trees Program & 5K
🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Got Stewardship? A Conversation with Amy Hill Exploring PA Healthy Lands Week | 26 Sep 2025 | 00:26:08 | |
"Every little bit makes a difference. And do not assume that someone else is going to continue to take care of it." Pennsylvania Healthy Lands Week, running from National Public Lands Day through Walk in Penn's Woods each fall, represents a growing coalition effort to transform how Pennsylvanians engage with their natural and cultural heritage. The initiative, now in its fourth year, extends beyond traditional conservation to embrace diverse forms of stewardship that range from cemetery preservation to social media advocacy. Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Amy Hill of Hill Communications Strategies, who emphasizes that stewardship isn't limited to trail maintenance or financial donations. It includes everyday actions like picking up litter during lunch breaks and introducing friends to new outdoor spaces. She believes that environmental health directly impacts human wellbeing, from the quality of drinking water to air pollution from distant wildfires affecting those with respiratory conditions. There are many creative ways to practice stewardship. Virtual volunteering and "micro-volunteering" opportunities accommodate varying abilities and schedules, while lunch-and-learn sessions explore diverse topics from Lake Erie coastal cleanups to becoming historic site docents. Marci’s personal anecdote about an egret killed by discarded fishing line illustrates how small actions cascade through ecosystems. Similarly, cigarette butts tossed on streets eventually accumulate on Lake Erie beaches. These are just two examples of downstream consequences of individual choices. The initiative's core message challenges assumptions about responsibility: stewardship cannot be left to others. Whether through local government advocacy, sharing expertise at libraries, or simply showing up with respect at beloved spaces, every Pennsylvanian can contribute to preserving what Hill calls "the natural wonders of the world around us.” Key Topics:
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| The Future of Recreation and Trails in Pennsylvania: A Conversation with Brandon Hoover and Alex MacDonald | 22 Sep 2025 | 00:41:55 | |
"We want to be native to somewhere, and I think park space and outdoor space grounds us and makes us native to the places that we call home and recognize that we occupy place in space, and we are part of that redemption story, and part of that reconciliation story of people to that place.” Pennsylvania's latest Statewide Comprehensive Outdoor Recreation Plan (SCORP) and Pennsylvania Trail Network Strategic Plan 2025-2029 reveal how the Commonwealth is adapting its 14,000 miles of trails and recreation spaces to serve evolving community needs while confronting climate realities. Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with guests Brandon Hoover and Alex McDonald from the Bureau of Recreation and Conservation in the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources. The plans, developed through engagement with over 8,000 Pennsylvanians, uncovered a striking finding: 81% of residents recreate primarily for mental health benefits, significantly outpacing the 65% who prioritize physical health. It’s an insight that reflects growing awareness of nature's role in combating loneliness, particularly among younger and older adults who struggle to find recreation partners. Climate change emerged as both a challenge and a priority. Trail providers identified severe storms as their overwhelming maintenance concern, forcing reconsideration of legacy trails built by the Civilian Conservation Corps that may need rerouting or retirement. The plans emphasize adaptation strategies like improved culvert design and sustainable trail construction that can withstand increasingly frequent extreme weather. Local parks serve as most Pennsylvanians' primary recreation spaces, which is why improvements truly start on the community level. Not to mention, outdoor recreation generates $19 billion annually for the state. SCORP’s strategy, therefore, is connecting trail towns to this economic engine while ensuring equitable access through universal design features like easy-dock kayak launches and improved wayfinding. Our guests stress that implementation requires local engagement. Municipal and county funding, plus donations, not state resources, maintain most trails. The vision frames outdoor spaces as "shared spaces" where communities can become "native to somewhere" rather than disconnected from place. Key Topics:
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| Public Lands, Recreation, and Community Wellbeing: Lessons from Dr. Silas Chamberlin | 06 Oct 2025 | 00:50:44 | |
“What are we doing today so that a century from now, people look back and say, ‘Thank goodness Marci was there to do this, or Secretary Dunn was there to do that.’ You can have that kind of impact if you’re really committed to the work.” Our host, Marci Mowery, chats with Dr. Silas Chamberlin in this episode of Think Outside. Dr. Silas Chamberlin's career trajectory, from Academic Historian to York County's Chief Economic Development Officer, embodies Pennsylvania's evolving understanding of outdoor recreation. No longer viewed merely as leisure, trails and parks are now recognized as critical economic drivers generating $19 billion annually for the Commonwealth, supporting over 9,000 outdoor businesses. Silas’s research reveals a fundamental shift in how economic impact is measured. The Bureau of Economic Analysis now attributes previously dispersed data (bed-and-breakfasts near state parks, microbreweries along rail trails) directly to outdoor recreation through satellite accounting. This trillion-dollar national industry finally has quantifiable metrics. That has transformed anecdotal evidence into actionable policy. Yet Silas identifies troubling equity gaps. While outdoor participation grows more diverse, the industry's marketing emphasis on expensive gear creates barriers. The message that quality recreation requires $300 specialized equipment excludes communities for whom hiking should be accessible with basic clothing. Organizations like Pennsylvania Outdoor Corps are countering this by promoting outdoor careers as viable pathways and not just spare-time activities. York County exemplifies an integrated strategy. Their Trail Towns program, launched during the pandemic in June 2020, demonstrates measurable impact. In 2024, 14,000 visitors came directly from Gifford Pinchot State Park to Forry’s ice cream shop, with granular data showing specific customer origins. This attracts corporations seeking communities where executives want to live. Quality of life now outweighs tax incentives in location decisions. The challenge ahead involves rebuilding the volunteerism culture. Historic hiking clubs built and maintained trails collectively; modern recreationists increasingly expect maintained infrastructure as public service. With ongoing federal investment uncertainty and infrastructure like engineered rail trails and expensive playground installations requiring different maintenance approaches, Pennsylvania must adapt volunteer opportunities to meet 21st-century recreationists on their terms.
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| An Off-Season Adventure: Exploring PA State Parks and Forests with Jessica Myers ( See Them All Passport Challenge ) | 17 Nov 2025 | 00:17:41 | |
“Supporting local businesses not only enhances your experience, but also supports that community, and oftentimes those community businesses are very supportive of the park and forest.” Our host, Marci Mowery, chats with Jessica Myers, whose quest to visit all 124 Pennsylvania state parks and 20 forest districts began unexpectedly in 2017. After moving from DC and adopting a dog, she discovered the Parks Passport at Cowans Gap, which launched a six-year adventure that would become transformative for both her and her canine companion! Jessica strategically planned visits during off-season months, avoiding crowds that triggered her dog's anxiety following an attack by off-leash dogs. Her timing couldn’t have been better. Park staff had more availability for personalized recommendations, trails were peaceful, and winter activities like cross-country skiing and snowshoeing were freely accessible. Pennsylvania has a trove of hidden treasures beyond well-known destinations like Ricketts Glen. Tobyhanna's Lake Lupe hike became a favorite for Jess, while Laurel Hill and Elk State Parks claimed top spots for her pup’s exceptional swimming opportunities. Beyond hiking, Jess fell in love with what the community around her offered. General stores, ice cream shops, and local artisans, like a stained glass maker in the Laurel Highlands, made every visit so much richer. After completing the challenge in April 2025, Jess is raving most of all about Pennsylvania offering completely free access to world-class outdoor experiences that transformed both her mental health and her rescue dog's confidence!
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| The Space In Between: A Journey with Charles Hutler | 03 Nov 2025 | 00:09:41 | |
“Every park I go to is an adventure.” Charlie Hutler's journey began with a single visit to Promised Land State Park. Right there, at Pickerel Point’s campground, he caught the park bug! By 2021, via the See ‘Em All challenge, Charlie had visited all 124 state parks and 20 forest districts. He shares his treks on his YouTube channel, "PA Parks Man". Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Charlie to learn about the method to his madness. Rather than treating visits as isolated destinations, he planned them as loops, weaving parks into broader adventures that included historical sites like the Flight 93 Memorial and quirky attractions like Gravity Hills. Charlie speaks for many out-of-state visitors who are always amazed that visiting Pennsylvania's parks is free, with no entrance or day-use fees. It’s a democratic approach that enables families to redirect resources toward supporting local businesses, museums, and attractions along their routes. There’s also a huge element of advocacy in Charlie’s journey. His handwritten letters to legislators is a good old-fashioned yet effective step towards protecting these resources. As someone who witnessed both pouring rain and perfect weather at Cowans Gap, Charlie understands that every park visit is an adventure, no matter the conditions one might encounter! From casual visitor to content creator and advocate, Charlie shows how Pennsylvania's parks cultivate stewardship. His work with the Pennsylvania Parks and Forest Foundation, including appearing at legislative tours, should inspire enthusiasts to amplify their voices to ensure these spaces receive the necessary investment for future generations.
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| All of Them: A Journey Through Pennsylvania’s Parks and Forests with Joseph F. Brosky | 20 Oct 2025 | 00:19:37 | |
“It's amazing... when you get together with people at a campground or a park, there’s no barriers to participation. Everybody just enjoys being out and about.” Joe Brosky's retirement began with a discovery that would reshape his next five years: a Pennsylvania Parks and Forest Foundation passport he picked up at the Laurel Hill State Park's gift shop. Our host, Marci Mowery, chats with him in this episode of Think Outside. This chance encounter at the beginning of June 2018 launched Joe and his wife Donna on a quest to visit all 124 state parks and 20 forest districts. It’s a journey that reveals how Pennsylvania's public lands serve as vital connectors across generations and abilities! The Broskys' experience is just one example of a broader phenomenon of retirees reclaiming outdoor spaces as platforms for community engagement. At 73, Joe transformed his park experiences into "Cup of Joe with Joe," virtual hiking presentations through the Virtual Senior Academy that bring nature to homebound seniors. His oldest participant, his 91-year-old mother-in-law, is a clear-cut example of how technology can democratize access to Pennsylvania's natural heritage when physical limitations prevent direct visitation. Research confirms what Joe discovered intuitively: that even viewing nature photographs or videos delivers measurable health benefits, from lowered blood pressure to stress relief. It’s an insight that drives his mission to share virtual park experiences with seniors from Wisconsin to Washington, D.C., all free of charge! Yet the most profound impact emerges through intergenerational transmission. Joe's kayaking expedition with his grandson to Allegheny Islands State Park created what Joe calls "a gift that keeps giving." Through his book and advocacy work, Joe hopes to challenge assumptions about outdoor accessibility. Parks aren't just for the athletically ambitious; they're equally valuable for folks who are simply itching for a picnic with a view. In democratizing these spaces through multiple access points, that is, physical, virtual, and literary, Joe is living proof of how Pennsylvania's parks foster community like nothing else, no matter your age, location, or physical ability. Key Topics:
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| Keeping Older Adults Active, Engaged, and Connected Outside with Nicole Faraguna | 15 Dec 2025 | 00:36:03 | |
“Being outdoors is a part of our story, part of our essence. And so we don't want to abandon or forget about those who are growing older, and they just need a little help and support in connecting them to these benefits.” Our host, Marci Mowery, welcomes Nicole Faraguna, Director of the Office of Planning and Policy at the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources, to discuss both the personal and societal impacts of outdoor engagement for seniors. Nicole draws from her own experience visiting her father-in-law in a nursing home, observing how time spent outdoors visibly improved his mood and well-being. These stories set the stage for a broader conversation on how Pennsylvania, one of the oldest states in the nation by population, is tackling the opportunity to help its seniors age with dignity, independence, connection, and joy. The conversation explores the “Aging Our Way in PA” plan and the development of the "Outdoors as We Age: Pennsylvania’s Nature Guide" toolkit. The toolkit was designed to help seniors, especially those in long-term care or with limited mobility, reconnect with nature through accessible programs, adaptive equipment, and community partnerships. Nicole and Marci discuss the various barriers seniors face—ranging from transportation and mobility challenges to social isolation—and highlight how libraries, volunteers, and local organizations can play a key role in overcoming these obstacles. This episode is a call to action for communities, organizations, and individuals to collaborate in supporting healthy aging through nature. Even small efforts, like helping a neighbor enjoy a nearby park, can make a significant difference in someone’s quality of life. Key Topics:
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| It's a Family Thing - Exploring Together with guests Polly Goettler and Cindy Whelan | 01 Dec 2025 | 00:14:36 | |
“For me, coming to the Pennsylvania State Parks has been a way to really disconnect from the stress of the world and the stress of our individual lives and just enjoy nature. And it has such a healing effect.” Our host, Marci Mowery, chats with Cindy and Polly, whose Pennsylvania State Parks journey began in 2018 at Gifford Pinchot, where a passport sparked a family tradition that would grow from four campers to over twenty participants. As self-described "box checkers," the sisters established personal rules, such as photographing every sign and genuinely experiencing each location through hiking, kayaking, or picnicking rather than merely collecting stamps. Beyond their adventures, the parks provided unexpected therapeutic benefits. What started as weight management through hiking evolved into profound spiritual and emotional healing, particularly during the pandemic's isolation, when parks like Lyman Run offered stress relief. Both sisters rave about how hiking creates connection, with partners, children, and siblings, in ways their fast-paced, social-media-driven lives rarely allow. Parks without cell service, like Black Moshannon and Cowans Gap, forced meaningful disconnection that initially felt difficult but ultimately proved liberating. If you’re a newcomer, start with your nearest park and taste what it offers. The passion will follow naturally, and rules are optional. Just getting outside matters most! Key Topics:
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| Why Colonel Denning Should be on Your List with Chelsea DePoe, Manager | 09 Mar 2026 | 00:18:50 | |
“State parks are definitely great places for everybody. We want everyone to feel included and that it's a welcoming, safe place.” Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Chelsea DePoe, Park Manager at Colonel Denning State Park, nestled in north-central Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. Chelsea came to Colonel Denning by way of Ricketts Glen and Delaware Canal State Parks before pursuing the management path, landing the position when it opened last fall. Colonel Denning is a park that rewards those willing to seek it out. Surrounded by the 96,000-acre Tuscarora State Forest, it serves as a quiet gateway to seemingly endless outdoor adventure. The park's Civilian Conservation Corps heritage, dating to the 1930s, remains visible today in its original spillway, dam, pavilions, and campground bridge. All these are living reminders that Depression-era labor shaped landscapes still cherished by generations. The signature draw is the Flat Rock Trail, a challenging 2.5-mile one-way climb that delivers sweeping views of the Cumberland Valley. For families or casual visitors, the gentler nature trail winds around the lake and up a stream, offering diverse ecosystems and rewarding mushroom hunting in fall. Swimming, kayaking, fishing from an ADA-accessible pier, and camping round out a full roster of seasonal activities. The park also carries a piece of Revolutionary War history: it is named for William Denning, a local blacksmith who forged wrought iron cannons for the Continental Army, though records show he was never actually a colonel. It’s just one of history's small, endearing mysteries! "If you're a person that doesn't want the crowds," Chelsea says, "you can come here and find that reclusive feeling." Just 50 minutes from Harrisburg, Colonel Denning is, for now, still a best-kept secret, with mountain-shielded night skies that make pitching a tent and stargazing well worth the trip. Key Topics:
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| Experience Jacobsburg: History, Nature, and Community with Rob Neitz | 23 Feb 2026 | 00:38:10 | |
“Other people are there, and they're utilizing the parks and hiking as their form of recovery, whether it's from substance abuse, whether it's from a medical issue, whether it's mental health... It's become a part of who they are.” Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Rob Neitz, Park Manager at Jacobsburg Environmental Education Center in Northampton County, Pennsylvania. It’s the only state park within the two-county Lehigh Valley region and a quiet sanctuary amid one of the East Coast's fastest-growing corridors. Unlike a typical state park, Jacobsburg's mission centers on environmental education, which means partnering with school groups, civic organizations, and teachers, while remaining open to the public for hiking, mountain biking, and horseback riding. At 1,168 acres, it may be modest in size, but its location near the Kittatinny Ridge makes it an important stopover for migratory birds and a green refuge for hundreds of thousands of nearby residents. The center's cultural history is equally rich. The Henry family, who manufactured the famed Pennsylvania Long Rifle from the Revolutionary War through the Civil War era, shaped the land that would become Jacobsburg. Remarkably, a Henry family member, James Henry, also drafted some of Pennsylvania's earliest riparian buffer legislation, proposing a bill to revegetate the state's waterways. Rob says that visitor stories are what most drive him. A cancer survivor finding peace by the creek. A stroke patient rebuilding strength on the trails, two to three miles each day. "Those stories," says Rob, "are really at the heart of what we do." Beyond its own boundaries, Jacobsburg anchors the Lehigh Valley Greenways Conservation Landscape, established in 2004, a multi-partner initiative connecting Allentown, Bethlehem, and Easton through trails and preserved green space. It’s proof that conservation and economic vitality are not opposing forces, but seeds of the same flourishing community! Key Topics:
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| Next Gen Voices: Shaping the Future of Pennsylvania’s Outdoors with Ali Bowling | 09 Feb 2026 | 00:33:31 | |
"Plant a seed in someone, a young person you know, that this is an opportunity, conservation careers exist, that there's opportunities for you to get involved." Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Ali Bowling, who joined Pennsylvania's Department of Conservation and Natural Resources (DCNR) three and a half years ago. Before that, she worked in wildlife rehabilitation in Oklahoma, corporate sustainability, and environmental advocacy through Audubon Pennsylvania. Now serving as executive advisor for climate and sustainability, she coordinates the NextGen Advisory Council, a diverse group of approximately 20-25 young people shaping Pennsylvania's conservation future. The council ensures that younger perspectives inform DCNR's work across outdoor recreation, climate action, and diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging initiatives. “Conservation can be an answer to a lot of community issues,” says Ali, “but we have to understand what the issues are.” Unlike traditional advisory boards, this council recognizes that meaningful engagement starts in steps as small as intentionally stepping outside for longer periods throughout the day. Tiny decisions like these, says Ali, can snowball into deeper connections with nature, fostering understanding of how the natural world sustains human health and wellbeing. The council's approach reflects a broader shift in conservation thinking: that sustainability means pausing before making choices, asking "Is this necessary?" and recognizing that protecting Pennsylvania's wild spaces requires hearing from those who will inherit them. Through this work, DCNR acknowledges that conservation is about cultivating relationships between people and place, more than simply managing land! Key Topics:
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| A Life in the Park: Leonard Harrison State Park Stories with Greg Sassaman and Tim Morey | 26 Jan 2026 | 00:26:05 | |
“The more you get to use state parks and see what they have to offer, the more you’re going to want to make sure they continue in perpetuity.” When Greg Sassaman arrived at Leonard Harrison State Park in 1978, he found a rundown facility with a chain-link fence and a trail barely worthy of the name. What followed was a decades-long labor of love that transformed Pennsylvania's Grand Canyon into the destination it is today! The Turkey Path rehabilitation stands as Greg's crowning achievement. Without modern battery-powered tools or motorized wheelbarrows, his crew relied on manpower and, remarkably, horsepower. Working with naturalist Greg Hornsby, they convinced Harrisburg to hire a draft horse to haul timbers, concrete, and stone down the treacherous canyon trail using a wooden stone boat! The innovation worked. Youth Conservation Corps and Pennsylvania Conservation Corps teams built platforms and steps that have endured over 40 years, reducing injuries while protecting the natural landscape from erosion caused by shortcuts. Greg championed interpretation, helping visitors understand what they were seeing, and fought to preserve the area's wild character. He believes that Pennsylvania offers far more than its cities. The remote sections, the wild places, deserve protection and advocacy. Once state parks, always state parks. Key Topics:
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| The Outdoors, Designed for Everyone with Pam Metzger | 12 Jan 2026 | 00:23:50 | |
“It's kind of amazing to think that almost any challenge that you have, there's some brilliant, intelligent person out there doing the research to come up with a solution to it.” Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation Membership Coordinator Pam Metzger. When Pam’s husband Bill was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, staying active became his lifeline. After cycling thousands of miles on traditional bikes, he transitioned to a three-wheel hand cycle. That adaptive equipment opened new possibilities but also revealed gaps in accessibility. The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation is working to close those gaps through innovations like accessible kayak launches, colorblind-correcting viewers, and more. Beyond mere accommodations, they're examples of universal design that benefit everyone, from parents pushing strollers to hikers using trekking poles for knee support. Pam recalls the moment Bill used an accessible kayak launch at Laurel Hill State Park. Just like that, he’d rediscovered an activity he thought was lost forever! "He still talks about it," she shares, describing how the launch works seamlessly for wheelchair users and non-wheelchair-using visitors alike. True inclusion requires partnerships. The Foundation collaborates with AARP, friends groups, occupational therapists, and local organizations to identify needs and test solutions. Their latest initiative equips libraries across Pennsylvania with borrowable recreation equipment. Effectively, they’re removing financial barriers alongside physical ones! Key Topics:
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| The Story Behind Laurel Caverns with David Cale | 10 Apr 2026 | 00:34:47 | |
“I wasn't afraid of the cave, but I was afraid of people.” Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with David Cale, former owner of Laurel Caverns in the Laurel Highlands of southwestern Pennsylvania, for a conversation about one of the state's most singular natural wonders. It’s a cave system that became Pennsylvania's 125th state park, and the first underground state park in the commonwealth. David's relationship with Laurel Caverns began before he was born. His grandfather purchased the surrounding land in the 1920s, when the cave, then known as Delaney's Cave, was already a beloved destination for amateur explorers and weekend campers. David's earliest memories are of scrambling through its passages as a boy, naming chambers after Grieg compositions, and dreaming of what lay deeper in the mountain. That dream never let him go. Starting at age 15, David began digging through sand-clogged passages to find a new cave no one had ever seen, eventually opening what his staff named Cale's Canyon. Today, the system spans four known miles, with perhaps four times more still buried in sand. A philosopher by training, holding a doctorate in philosophy from Duquesne University, David ran the cavern for decades alongside his wife Lillian, pioneering bat hibernation protections as early as the 1970s and hosting Carnegie Mellon University researchers testing echolocation-inspired drones underground. His vision for the property was always a state park. He held off developers, resisted offers of quick profit, and ultimately donated the land outright with Lillian. Now that vision is reality. Key Topics:
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| Getting to Know Black Moshannon State Park with Park Manager Mathias Weinzen | 06 Apr 2026 | 00:23:09 | |
"We want to see everybody enjoying this place. That's where it all comes to fruition." Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Park Manager Mathias Weinzen to talk about one of Pennsylvania’s most ecologically distinctive parks: Black Moshannon State Park in Centre County. "Black" describes the dark, tannin-stained waters of the 250-acre lake, colored as clear water flows through sphagnum moss and bog vegetation. It acts, as Mathias puts it, like a giant teabag. "Moshannon" comes from the Native American name for the watershed, traditionally meaning "moose stream." At the heart of the park lies a remarkable bog, a vast natural wetland home to all three of Pennsylvania's carnivorous plants: pitcher plant, sundew, and bladderwort, alongside wild blueberries, cranberries, and a flyway for over 175 recorded bird species. The fully accessible Bog Trail is Mathias’ top recommendation for first-time visitors, though his personal favorite is the Star Mill Trail, where he keeps a bench for reading. Beyond the bog, the park offers 22 miles of trails, a sandy beach, campsites, and 23 roofed overnight facilities. These include deluxe cottages named Blueberry, Cranberry, and Winterberry in honor of what grows here. The park's calendar runs from a winter festival on a frozen lake to Women in the Wilds, PA Wild Child, the Lumber Legacy event (complete with professional log burling demonstrations), and the wildly popular Haunted Lake Loop Trail each October. History runs deep here, too. The area was a thriving lumber community in the late 1800s before being reforested by the Civilian Conservation Corps in the 1930s, whose rustic cabins and pavilions (some now converted into warming huts in winter) still serve visitors today. The park is also a gateway to over 43,000 acres of surrounding Moshannon State Forest, including the 40-mile Allegheny Front Trail. Mathias credits his staff above all else, and his message to anyone hesitating about a visit is to “trust us, come out, and we'll show you what it's about!” Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Exploring the Bureau of Forestry with Director Seth Cassell | 23 Mar 2026 | 00:38:55 | |
"Everybody can be a steward of Penn’s Woods in some way." Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Seth Cassell, Director of the Pennsylvania Bureau of Forestry, also known as the State Forester, to take a sweeping look at one of Pennsylvania's most consequential and quietly essential agencies. Seth came to the role with a deep reverence for the state's remarkable forest heritage and a vision for what stewardship in the 21st century demands. Pennsylvania's Bureau of Forestry oversees more than 2.2 million acres of state forest, but Seth is quick to point out that its reach goes far beyond that number. With 16 million acres of total forest in the commonwealth (70% of it privately owned), the Bureau operates as a statewide resource, providing technical assistance to roughly 650,000 private landowners, coordinating wildfire suppression, planting riparian buffers, and advancing urban tree canopy programs. Pennsylvania holds a rare distinction. It was the first state to certify its entire state forest system under the Forest Stewardship Council, achieving that milestone in 1998, and later added Sustainable Forestry Initiative certification to become dual-certified, a testament to decades of rigorous, accountable management. The Bureau's new strategic plan, Forests for All, signals a meaningful cultural shift, explicitly naming people and communities in its mission for the first time. Recreation across the system runs the gamut from scenic driving and snowmobiling to primitive backcountry camping on river islands, with a particular emphasis on the irreplaceable value of quiet. Wild and natural areas like Allen Seeger and Hammersley offer Pennsylvania's closest thing to true wilderness, while a growing focus on soundscape research reflects a commitment to protecting that stillness. Seth champions the power of partnership, crediting the Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation and a broad ecosystem of collaborators as essential to delivering on the Bureau's mission. He believes that everyone can be a steward of Penn’s Woods. Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| How the Land Shapes Us: Ben Moyer Reflects on Writing and Place | 20 Apr 2026 | 00:41:57 | |
"It's hard to see and notice at the speed with which we move." Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Ben Moyer, who is an author and longtime outdoor journalist from the Laurel Highlands of southwestern Pennsylvania. They chat about a life spent paying close attention to the natural world and inviting others to do the same. Ben's connection to nature began early, shaped by his father, who took him fishing at Dunbar Creek, where the pull of a trout on the line left an impression that never faded. Those formative experiences, rooted in the traditional pursuits of hunting and fishing, became the lens through which he eventually found his voice as a writer. High school English teachers who recognized something in him helped point the way. Thoreau's Walden and Aldo Leopold's Sand County Almanac confirmed it. Over decades of writing (including 559 consecutive columns for Pennsylvania Outdoor News and a monthly column called "The Wild Around" in Pennsylvania Game News), Ben has argued, quietly and persistently, that wonder doesn't require travel to exotic places. It lives in your backyard, in a squirrel's improvisational genius, in the dusk flight of a woodcock over a boggy meadow in spring. He navigates the grimmer realities of environmental change all with the same philosophy. That is, acknowledge the losses honestly, but never lose sight of what remains. Finally, Ben talks about the opening of Laurel Caverns as Pennsylvania's 125th state park, a moment both men salute as proof that patient, principled stewardship can still win. Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||
| Exploring Buchanan State Forest with Karli Naugle | 05 May 2026 | 00:35:22 | |
“You never know what you're going to uncover as you walk through, and the questions about its history always spark great conversation.” Our host, Marci Mowery, sits down with Karli Naugle, who is the district forester of Buchanan State Forest, recently named the Pennsylvania Parks and Forest Foundation's Forest of the Year. She offers an insider's tour of a forest that has, until now, largely kept its charms to itself. Karli's path to forestry began at home. Growing up beside Buchanan, she walked the back forty with her grandfather, who worked for PennDOT and advised her early that a state job was a life well spent. She eventually landed exactly that; though he passed just before she received the district forester title, a promotion she wished she could have shared with him. Spread across three counties (Franklin, Fulton, and Bedford), Buchanan is a patchwork of ridgetop forests, each with its own character. The Big Mountain Overlook commands views stretching from Maryland to Perry County. The Chaneysville area holds rare hard pine stands. The Silent Hill tract quietly accumulates some of the region's best snowfall and harbors a history that surprises most visitors: a CCC camp that later served as a prisoner-of-war facility, its story preserved in a downloadable history hike guide. Karli’s team maintains around 206 miles of trails and approximately 62 primitive campsites. Volunteers have transformed old firebreak paths into proper switchback trails. Plans are underway for a dark-sky stargazing site, accessible hunting areas, and a wheelchair-friendly route to the Big Mountain Overlook. Key Topics:
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🎧 Listen to the Think Outside Podcast on Spotify, Apple, or your favorite app while on the go! New episodes drop bi-weekly on Mondays, and you may occasionally find a bonus episode, as well! The Pennsylvania Parks and Forests Foundation inspires stewardship of YOUR state parks and forests through volunteerism, education, recreation, and philanthropy. Learn more, find events, download outdoor resources, and get involved! 👉 Sign up for our weekly e-newsletter 🎥 Watch outdoor tips and stories on our YouTube channel 📸 Follow the podcast on Instagram 🎶 Podcast music provided by Evan Mongeau 📱 Follow PPFF on: | |||