What do typhoon evacuations, koala selfies, and second breakfast in Hobbiton have in common? They’ve all been part of Deacon Bob’s adventurous month. 

After a few weeks apart, Father Dave and Deacon Bob are back, swapping globe-trotting tales, ministry moments, and a surprisingly full slate of sports updates. Bob’s recent trip took him from the typhoon-swept Philippines to Singapore, Perth, Sydney, and a bucket-list stop in New Zealand’s Hobbiton (yes, complete with hobbit holes, the Green Dragon Inn, and second breakfast). 

Along the way, he preached to 90 youth leaders just hours after a typhoon hit, met a koala, saw kangaroos, and even met a listener named Rain who drove five hours just to hear him speak. There were plenty of memorable meals, from perfect pancakes to less-than-crispy bacon. 

Meanwhile, Father Dave stayed stateside, baptizing great-nieces (one walked to her own baptism), speaking at the Knights of Columbus Conference, and making a moving visit to the Blessed Stanley Rother Shrine in Oklahoma City. He shares Rother’s remarkable story—from failing Latin in seminary, to obeying his bishop’s call to return to Guatemala, to his martyrdom in 1981—and the beauty of a shrine built right in the heart of the city it serves. 

Sports fans get plenty too: the debut of MLB’s first female umpire Jen Pawol (including her Hall of Fame–bound first pitch), Tom Brady’s towering new statue, and even a trivia challenge about the University of Michigan making draft history. 

Naturally, there are detours, including CGI vs. AI, bad sports statues, and ministry moments that transcended cultural boundaries. But through it all, the heart stays the same: joyfully sharing the Gospel, wherever God sends you (even if it’s to a sheep paddock in New Zealand). 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Sports, Schedules, and Saying Goodbye 

The guys open with bittersweet news about the podcast winding down, why recording has gotten harder, and an invitation for listeners to share favorite memories. They then go into the week’s light sports slate and review the new Superman. Even with the end in sight, their trademark banter is alive and well. 

 

(05:41) Football, Statues, and Sports Trivia 

Deacon Bob previews a Buccaneers-Steelers preseason game while Father Dave looks forward to Steelers training camp. They discuss Tom Brady’s towering statue and celebrate Jen Pawol historic debut as MLB’s first female umpire. The segment wraps with a trivia challenge about a university making draft history in all four major leagues. 

 

(15:44) From Typhoons to Hobbit Holes 

Bob recounts ministry in the Philippines, Perth, and New Zealand, including speaking to youth leaders after a typhoon and connecting with alumni abroad. He describes walking through the Shire set from The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, complete with hobbit holes and the Green Dragon Inn. Jenny may not be a huge fan of the films, but even she found the tour magical. 

 

(23:42) Sydney, Koalas, and the Ends of the Earth 

From welcoming bishops to preaching across cultures, Bob reflects on moments when the Holy Spirit’s anointing was tangible. He shares encounters with young adults, a koala, and a listener who drove five hours to hear him speak. Each stop reaffirmed the universal joy of sharing the Gospel. 

 

(25:42) Baptisms, Knights, and Blessed Stanley Rother 

Father Dave talks about baptizing his great-nieces and representing Franciscan University at the Knights of Columbus Conference. He shares the moving story of Blessed Stanley Rother a missionary priest martyred in Guatemala, and describes visiting the shrine dedicated to him. The witness of Rother’s courage and devotion left a lasting impression. 

 

(32:37) Feast Days and a Chapel Blessing 

Looking ahead to the Feast of the Assumption they pray for peace amid global tensions. Father Dave previews the blessing of Franciscan University’s newly renovated Christ the King Chapel, while Bob outlines upcoming speaking engagements. The conversation closes with anticipation for the start of the school year. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

Blessed Stanley Rother Shrine – Learn more about the first American-born martyr 

MLB First Female Umpire – Jen Pawol – Read about her historic debut 

Hobbiton Movie Set – Explore the filming location of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit 

Feast of the Assumption – August 15, a Holy Day of Obligation in the Catholic Church 

Christ the King Chapel Renovation – Franciscan University’s expanded and renewed chapel 

Purposeful Lab – New season started on Faith and Reason 

What happens when the world’s top golfer says faith—not golf—is his top priority? 

Father Dave and Deacon Bob kick off this episode with that headline-grabbing story, plus summer sports updates, movie reviews, and a powerful look at how God is moving through this year’s youth conferences. 

They cover everything from the MLB All-Star Game and Father Dave’s baseball “betrayal” (attending games without Bob) to a heartfelt reflection on Scottie Scheffler’s British Open win—and why his grounded priorities made bigger headlines than his major win. Father Dave also reviews the new Superman movie, featuring Krypto the Superdog, while Deacon Bob tries to catch up on Fantastic Four before heading overseas. 

But the heart of the episode is ministry: stories from Steubenville Youth Conferences where teens received the Sacrament of Reconciliation, and lives were changed through the theme “Consumed.” Father Dave shares insights from a friars’ retreat on hope as a spiritual discipline, while Bob prepares for a whirlwind ministry tour in the Philippines, Australia, and beyond (with protein bars and peanut butter in tow). 

Naturally, there are tangents galore: a drone demo gone off-script, global food fears, and a preview of Franciscan’s upcoming Christ the King Chapel dedication. But through it all, the message is clear: Hope doesn’t disappoint—it transforms. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Summer Break, Baseball, and All-Star Highlights  The guys ease back into the podcast after a month off with All-Star Game highlights, reflections on the Tigers’ surprising run, and a lament over Father Dave attending games without Bob. They also touch on rising stars like Paul Skenes, who started for the National League, and celebrate the return of players wearing their own uniforms. 

(05:10) Scheffler’s Priorities and Superpowered Blockbusters  Scottie Scheffler wins the British Open, but stuns the media by saying golf is third in his life after faith and family. The guys reflect on identity, ambition, and what really matters. Father Dave also reviews Superman (yes, Krypto the dog steals the show), while Bob desperately hopes he can catch Fantastic Four while on the road. 

(11:30) Faith Under Fire  They highlight Father Dave’s recent In Person interview with Nina Shea, who shares sobering insights on Christian persecution across the globe—from Nigeria to China—and what it means to witness to hope in the face of violence and fear. 

(13:17) Youth Conferences: Confessions, Vocations, and Conversions  From Halifax to Springfield, this summer’s Steubenville Conferences have been full of grace. Thousands of confessions. Vocational calls answered. And in St. Louis alone, 20 teens stepped forward expressing their desire to come more fully into the Church. 

(23:56) A World Tour, a Friars’ Retreat, and Acts of Hope  Bob prepares to minister across the globe, while Father Dave shares a takeaway from the friars’ retreat: hope is an action—choosing to lean into God, especially when life feels uncertain. 

(28:24) Chapel Countdown and a Drone in the Studio  They preview Franciscan’s upcoming chapel dedication, celebrate milestones, and attempt a live drone demo (with expected results). The episode closes with prayer for those struggling to hold onto hope. 

  Resources Mentioned 

• “Scottie Scheffler says 'faith and family' are most important after winning British Open” – Christian Post article 
• Steubenville Conferences – Life-changing encounters with Christ for youth and adults alike 
• In Person Interview with Nina Shea – Watch Father Dave’s interview with Nina Shea on global Christian persecution 
• Superman (2025) 
• The Fantastic Four: First Step 
• Ablaze Ministries  

Pope Francis has passed into eternal life—and Father Dave and Deacon Bob take time to remember him with reverence, gratitude, and a few good stories. 

In this episode, recorded shortly after the announcement of his death, the hosts reflect on the Holy Father’s legacy: his love for the marginalized, his embrace of simplicity, and his tireless call to joy. They recall his early days as a pope who rode the subway, paid his own hotel bill, and preached Christ with bold, missionary zeal. They also explore the complexities of his pontificate—from synodality and youth ministry to off-the-cuff comments and papal “mess-making.” 

Before diving into papal memories, Father Dave and Deacon Bob share Easter highlights, including Good Friday homilies, a stunning Exsultet, packed liturgies at Franciscan University and Blessed Sacrament Parish, and many guests at Deacon Bob’s house. From there, they unpack the impact of Evangelii Gaudium, Christus Vivit, and the Jubilee Years, along with Francis’ unmistakable emphasis on mercy, mission, and the personal love of Jesus. 

From Triduum grace to tears of gratitude, from liturgical reform to South American subway rides, this episode is a heartfelt farewell to a pope who reminded the Church that, in Christ, joy is always possible. Join us in praying for Pope Francis and the Church he loved. 

 

Highlighted sections 

(00:00) News of Pope Francis' Passing  Father Dave and Deacon Bob begin with the solemn announcement of Pope Francis' death, sharing their heartfelt reactions. They set aside their original agenda to honor his memory and reflect on his papacy. 

(02:11) Easter Reflections and Good Friday Grace  Deacon Bob describes a spiritually rich Triduum, including his deeply moving Good Friday homily and moments of reverence during the veneration. Father Dave recalls the powerful liturgies at Franciscan University and a Holy Thursday story from Rwanda that shaped his preaching. 

(11:06) Joy and the Pontificate of Pope Francis  The hosts reflect on joy as a hallmark of Pope Francis’ papacy—both in theme and in personal testimony. They recall how joy became a grace he received at the beginning of his pontificate, despite his naturally serious demeanor. 

(16:47) A Pope Who Wasn’t Afraid to “Make a Mess”  Father Dave and Deacon Bob discuss Francis’ willingness to ask hard questions, provoke dialogue, and advocate for the marginalized. They highlight his synods, pastoral approach, and commitment to listening, even when misunderstood. 

(35:14) His Final Easter Message  The episode closes with Pope Francis’ final Urbi et Orbi blessing—a proclamation of hope, mercy, and resurrection. Father Dave and Deacon Bob pray for peace and the guidance of the Holy Spirit in the days to come. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Evangelii Gaudium – Apostolic exhortation on the joy of the Gospel 

• Christus Vivit – Pope Francis’ letter to young people 

• The Mission – Film about Jesuit missionaries in South America (IMDb) 

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This episode was supposed to be Live from PNC Park… Until wind, hail, and freezing temps benched those plans.  

Instead, Father Dave and Deacon Bob recap what didn’t happen at the Pirates game—and what did happen at Petco Park, Jackie Robinson Day, and the Pierogi Race. They also cheer for Rory McIlroy’s long-awaited Masters win, reminisce about $300 Air Jordans and train robbers, and share a touching moment from an alumni visit to California.  

They close with rich reflections on the beauty of the Triduum—from foot washing and Good Friday sorrow to the light of the Easter Vigil. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

 

(00:00) Pirates Game Rained Out, Pasta Wins the Night  A freezing forecast and 40-mph winds cancel Father Dave and Deacon Bob’s plans for a live episode at PNC Park. Instead, they settle for Italian food, play-by-play reenactments, and philosophical questions like: why wouldn’t you go to Red Robin? 

 

(03:01) Baseball, Scholarships, and One Grateful Mom  Father Dave reflects on a recent trip to California where he met inspiring future Franciscan students—including Abby, a St. Michael Scholarship recipient whose mother wept with joy. They tie it all back to Giving Day and the real, personal impact of donor support. 

 

(07:06) Rory’s Redemption and Golf on the Tarmac  Rory McIlroy finally wins the Masters in a storybook finish. Father Dave watches it unfold from a stalled plane at O’Hare, while Deacon Bob gives golf an “ish” and vents about ESPN’s limited Masters coverage. 

 

(13:33) NFL Faith, Stefanski’s Vocation, and the Baron Club Dinner  Cleveland Browns coach Kevin Stefanski visits campus and shares how faith shows up in the NFL, from pregame Mass to personal vocation. Father Dave previews an upcoming interview and reflects on ministry, family, and football. 

 

(19:05) Holy Week Reflections: From Feet to Firelight  A powerful walk through the Easter Triduum—from the humility of Holy Thursday and the silence of Holy Saturday to the joy of the Easter Vigil. Deacon Bob celebrates the Exsultet, and Father Dave reminds us: don’t skip ahead—stay at the foot of the cross. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Franciscan University Giving Day – April 23, 2025 

• St. Michael Scholarship – Supporting first-generation college students at Franciscan 

• Baron Club Dinner – Annual fundraiser celebrating Baron Athletics 

• Exsultet (Easter Proclamation) – Chanted during the Easter Vigil 

• The Triduum – USCCB resource on Holy Thursday, Good Friday, and the Easter Vigil 

• Seven Churches Visitation – Holy Thursday pilgrimage tradition 

• “Heaven Is for Real” – Movie based on a young boy’s near-death experience

 

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What happens when you celebrate Palm Sunday and break a historic NHL record in the same week—then try to plan a live podcast at a ballgame? 

This week, Deacon Bob Rice and Father Dave Pivonka, reunite after time on the road to talk sports, saints, and the start of Holy Week. They celebrate Alex Ovechkin surpassing Wayne Gretzky’s all-time goal record, reflect on the highs and heartbreaks of March Madness, and make ambitious plans for a live podcast episode from a Pirates game. Spoiler alert: Torpedo bats and Trevor Williams may be involved. 

Meanwhile, Father Dave shares about the overlooked power of Palm Sunday, inviting listeners to stay close to Christ throughout Holy Week—not skipping ahead to the Resurrection, but walking daily with Jesus through His Passion. From the colt that never bucked to the crowds that cheered then jeered, it's a timely call to praise Jesus for who He is, not just what we want Him to be. 

Also in this episode: Star Trek celebrity sightings, Minecraft movie madness, and what happens when Jack Black meets Jason Momoa (or a mimosa). 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Sugar-Free Gummy Bears, Hockey History, and Reunited Hosts  Father Dave and Deacon Bob are back together and immediately dive into some classic They That Hope banter—including unforgettable Amazon reviews of Haribo sugar-free gummy bears. They also celebrate Alex Ovechkin’s record-breaking moment on the ice and marvel at how the NHL pulled out all the stops for the Great Eight. 

(04:54) March Madness Surprises and Catholic Coaches on the Court  The NCAA tournament wraps up with buzzer-beaters and big surprises, including historic representation among head coaches. The hosts reflect on what it means to win—and lose—with class, and how faith sometimes shows up courtside. 

(09:38) Torpedo Bats, Million-Dollar Cards, and a Possible Live Episode  A new MIT-engineered “torpedo bat” sparks baseball buzz as the Yankees open strong and then crash hard. Meanwhile, a rare Paul Skenes card sells for a jaw-dropping price, and Deacon Bob pitches the idea of recording a live podcast from PNC Park. 

(11:45) Arthur Brooks, Evangelization, and the Art of Disagreement  Father Dave shares a moment of deep insight from his recent interview with Harvard professor Arthur Brooks, who spoke on campus about evangelization in a divided world. They reflect on the importance of friendship, dialogue, and belonging when sharing the Gospel with those who think differently. 

(23:19) Movies, Mimosas, and the Minecraft Mayhem  Deacon Bob survives the cinematic chaos that is the new Minecraft Movie, starring Jack Black and Jason Momoa. The hosts also look ahead to Mission: Impossible, Thunderbolts, and the hopeful return of truly great summer blockbusters. 

(25:51) Palm Sunday Reflections and Staying with Jesus in Holy Week  The hosts reflect on the beginning of Holy Week and the often-overlooked beauty of Palm Sunday. They explore what it means to praise Jesus not just for what He does, but for who He is—and invite listeners to walk with Christ, one day at a time, through the Passion. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• In Person with Arthur Brooks – Faith and Reason 

• Love Your Enemies by Arthur Brooks 

• A Minecraft Movie 

• Mission: Impossible – The Final Reckoning 

• Thunderbolts 

 

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"Neither do I condemn you." These powerful words from John 8 echo through this week’s episode, as Deacon Bob and Father Dave reflect on Jesus’ radical mercy and the call to transformation. The Gospel story of the woman caught in adultery takes center stage, prompting a rich conversation about sin, dignity, and the scandal of grace. 

From there, the hosts weave this message of mercy into stories from real life—on the field, in the classroom, and even around a D&D table. They celebrate Franciscan’s women’s softball team, relive a touching moment between Sidney Crosby and Deacon Bob’s son, and laugh their way through an unexpected defense of role-playing games (featuring dragons, dice, and Dr. Mike Welker). 

Even as the episode touches on travel tales, NHL milestones, and pretzel cravings in Austria, everything circles back to one central truth: God’s mercy restores what shame tries to erase. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) March Madness, Hockey Moments, and The Hope of Opening Day  Deacon Bob kicks things off with NCAA updates and his son's unforgettable moment with Sidney Crosby. Father Dave shares travel tales and hopes for the Nationals (and the White Sox?!). 

(06:32) Sportsmanship and Surprises in the NHL  From Ovechkin’s selfless plays to honoring retiring legend Marc-André Fleury, the hosts reflect on the character of hockey players and how moments of class can transcend rivalries. 

(13:53) Franciscan Updates, Study Abroad, and Parents’ Weekend in Vienna  Father Dave checks in from Austria, recounting a beautiful Night of Mercy in the Diocese of St. Pölten and sharing how Franciscan’s Austrian Program transforms lives—including a student who decided to transfer after just one semester abroad. 

(18:29) Dice, Dragons, and Deacon Bob’s Geekiest Joy  Bob explains the world of role-playing games—from character sheets to 20-sided dice—and why he finds creativity and community in tabletop storytelling. Father Dave listens… with mixed emotions. 

(25:58) The Gospel of Mercy: Jesus and the Woman Caught in Adultery  The hosts read and reflect on John 8, exploring how Jesus both confronts sin and restores dignity. They discuss the cultural and legal dynamics at play, the Pharisees’ trap, and the power of Christ’s compassion: “Neither do I condemn you. Go, and from now on do not sin anymore.” 

Resources Mentioned 

• Gospel Reading: John 8:1–11 

• Franciscan University’s Study Abroad Program in Austria 

• Franciscan University’s Online MA in Theology Program 

• Fall 2026 Admissions Now Open: franciscan.edu 

 

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What do a prodigal son, a Belize beach revival, and Marian apparitions in Rwanda have in common? 

They all point us back to the mercy of the Father. This week on They That Hope, Deacon Bob Rice and Father Dave Pivonka reflect on powerful journeys of repentance, healing, and homecoming—from the Gospel of Luke to the real-life stories unfolding in mission fields and pilgrimage sites. 

Recording from opposite sides of the globe, the hosts reunite after two transformative trips. Deacon Bob shares about leading Franciscan University students on mission in Belize, where their joyful witness brought hope to a struggling culture. Father Dave recounts his pilgrimage to Rwanda with Immaculée Ilibagiza, diving deep into the Church-approved Marian apparitions at Kibeho and the painful echoes of genocide. 

Amid reflections on mercy and reconciliation, they also manage to squeeze in March Madness predictions, NBA tanking controversy, and a surprisingly heartfelt conversation about snorkeling (yes, snorkeling gets emotional too). From returning to God after hitting rock bottom to living out faith in a divided world, this episode is a moving invitation to come home to the Father—again and again. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Mission Trips, March Madness, and Podcasting from Abroad  Father Dave checks in from Austria while Deacon Bob broadcasts from Texas. They swap stories from their respective journeys: Bob’s evangelization trip to Belize and Father Dave’s pilgrimage to Rwanda. 

(02:33) March Madness Recap and Catholic Teams on the Court  The NCAA tournament is in full swing with top seeds like Duke, Houston, and Auburn advancing. The hosts recap St. Francis University’s epic underdog run and reflect on the faith and fumbles of Catholic teams. 

(07:59) NBA Tanking, Cooper Flagg, and Draft Day Drama  Deacon Bob breaks down the controversial strategy of “tanking” in the NBA, with teams vying for next year’s top pick: high school phenom Cooper Flagg. Meanwhile, scrappy teams like the Warriors and Lakers keep playoff hopes alive. 

(10:20) Chastity, Witness, and the Joy of Mission in Belize  Deacon Bob shares how Franciscan students' witness to chastity made a profound impact in a culture where early sexual activity is the norm. Their week culminated in a powerful beach praise night that brought the town together. 

(17:03) Marian Apparitions and Forgiveness in Rwanda  Father Dave reflects on his powerful visit to Kibeho, site of the Church-approved Marian apparitions in Rwanda. He shares stories of healing, warnings of violence, and the radical forgiveness modeled by Immaculée Ilibagiza. 

(30:43) The Prodigal Son and the Mercy of the Father  This week’s Gospel reading prompts a deep discussion on God’s mercy, the danger of spiritual pride, and the invitation to love beyond mere obedience. The hosts explore how the older son’s struggle is often our own. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Left to Tell by Immaculée Ilibagiza 

• Our Lady of Kibeho – Church-approved Marian apparitions 

• Franciscan University Mission Trips 

• March Madness Bracket Updates 

• Return of the Prodigal Son by Henri Nouwen 

 

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What does God’s glory look like in your everyday life? 

This week on They That Hope, Father Dave and Deacon Bob reflect on the Gospel account of the Transfiguration, exploring how moments of divine glory give us strength and perspective during life’s hardest trials. They share how Christ reveals his presence both in the extraordinary—like mountaintop encounters—and the ordinary rhythms of daily life. 

As Deacon Bob prepares to lead a mission team to Belize and Father Dave readies for a pilgrimage to Rwanda, they reflect on the beauty, chaos, and spiritual depth of saying "yes" to God’s call.  

Plus: Gene Hackman tributes, sports heartbreak, custom cookies, and the surprisingly tricky technique of applying ashes. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Belize Missions and 2 A.M. Wake-Ups  Deacon Bob shares the joys and challenges of preparing for a teaching mission in Belize, including an unholy 2 a.m. check-in. Meanwhile, Father Dave offers prayers (and a touch of envy) from Steubenville. 

(08:05) Pilgrimage to Rwanda and the Power of Sacred Places  Father Dave looks ahead to his trip to Kibeho, the site of a Marian apparition that foretold the Rwandan genocide. He reflects on how sacred spaces open hearts to healing and hope. 

(09:20) Sports Heartbreak Hall of Fame  The hosts nominate America’s most painful teams to root for—from the Dallas Cowboys to the Cleveland Browns and beyond. It’s part therapy session, part sports history, and 100% relatable. 

(15:00) Lent, Ashes, and Sugar Cookies  From ash-thumb technique to cookies with their faces on them, Father Dave and Deacon Bob celebrate Lent with reverence and humor. Plus, a shoutout to a generous listener and a forgotten name. 

(19:46) Remembering Gene Hackman  They honor the legendary actor Gene Hackman with a tour of his greatest films, including Hoosiers, Unforgiven, and The Firm. His legacy sparks a fun exchange about favorite actors and movie memories. 

(30:45) Gospel Reflection: The Transfiguration  The hosts reflect on Luke’s account of the Transfiguration and the mystery of seeing God's glory. They share how moments of divine light—like mountaintop encounters—sustain us through darkness and doubt. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• FaithAndReason.com – Weekly Lent Scripture Reflections  

• Kibeho, Rwanda – Marian apparition site 

• Divine Mercy Shrine, Kraków, Poland 

• Hoosiers, Unforgiven, The Firm – Films starring Gene Hackman 

 

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As Lent begins, Deacon Bob and Father Dave turn to the Gospel of Luke and the image of Jesus being led into the wilderness by the Holy Spirit. From fasting and temptation to spiritual dryness and surrender, the hosts reflect on how the desert becomes a sacred space of encounter and transformation. 

This week’s episode moves from the spiritual to the political, as Father Dave shares his experience at the Catholic Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C., and the launch of Franciscan’s Homeland Mission Program. Then, shifting gears, the episode dives into the controversial press conference between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky, with reflections on humility, diplomacy, justice, and how Catholics can engage a divided political world without losing heart. 

Sprinkled in—as always—are the laughs: a breakdown of the NFL’s “tush push,” Cavaliers comebacks, the rise of phone booth boxing, and a surprising story about wrestling in a former church. 

As Lent invites us deeper into prayer, fasting, and almsgiving, this episode ends with a moving reflection on the Gospel and a reminder that even in our own deserts, the Spirit leads and God is present. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Fasting, Cheeseburgers, and the Age of Exemption  Father Dave reflects humorously on turning 60 and technically being exempt from fasting—though he still chooses to fast as a spiritual discipline. Deacon Bob playfully insists that doing what you don’t have to do is what makes it truly holy. 

(01:57) NFL Tush Push, Cavaliers Comebacks, and Sports Surprises  The hosts dive into the NFL's controversial "tush push" play and debate whether it should be banned. They also celebrate the Cleveland Cavaliers’ incredible comeback wins and share thoughts on how grit and teamwork shape great sports moments. 

(04:44) Phone Booth Boxing and Wrestling in Church?  From Romania’s newest combat sport to a church-turned-MMA arena, the episode takes an absurd but entertaining detour. The discussion sparks deeper questions about sacred spaces and cultural trends that blur the lines between worship and spectacle. 

(06:10) Evangelization on the Road: Faith-Filled Uber Rides  Bob and Father Dave share stories of surprising spiritual conversations with Uber drivers that opened doors to talk about faith, suffering, and the Trinity. These everyday moments reveal how simple encounters can become grace-filled opportunities for evangelization. 

(08:10) Franciscan in D.C.: Homeland Mission and Catholic Prayer Breakfast  Father Dave describes the launch of Franciscan’s Homeland Mission Program, aimed at giving students faith-integrated experiences in public service. He also recounts the beauty and depth of the Catholic Prayer Breakfast, including his encounter with JD Vance and a moving moment of public prayer. 

(11:29) Zelensky, Trump, and a Press Conference That Shook D.C.  In one of the most talked-about political moments of the week, the hosts break down the tense exchange between Zelensky, Trump, and JD Vance. The conversation opens up complex questions about justice, diplomacy, war, and how Catholics can engage with humility and integrity. 

(28:42) Into the Desert: Jesus’ Temptation and Our Lenten Journey  Drawing from Luke 4, the hosts reflect on Jesus’ hunger, vulnerability, and spiritual strength in the desert. They invite listeners to embrace Lent not as a burden, but as an opportunity to be led by the Spirit into a place of deeper encounter with God. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Gospel Reading: Luke 4:1–13 

• Catholic Prayer Breakfast (Washington, D.C.) 

• Franciscan University’s Homeland Mission Program 

 

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This week’s episode swings from dodgeball chaos at Franciscan University to international hockey heartbreak as Team USA falls to Canada. Father Dave and Deacon Bob also unpack the Yankees’ shocking decision to allow facial hair—and ponder whether robot umpires and AI-controlled baseball are the future of America’s pastime. Oh, and Juan Soto buys a teammate a $92,000 SUV for a jersey number. All-star moves, indeed. 

In entertainment news, the hosts react to Amazon’s takeover of the James Bond franchise, reminisce about their favorite 007s (yes, George Lazenby gets a mention), and reflect on the trend of turning beloved characters into corporate IP machines. Spoiler: they’re not thrilled. 

The heart of the episode is a deep, compassionate look at in vitro fertilization following President Trump’s executive order expanding IVF access. Father Dave and Deacon Bob thoughtfully explain the Church’s teaching on human dignity, the moral challenges of embryo preservation, and the pain of infertility—all while offering hope, prayer, and clarity for couples carrying this difficult cross. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Dodgeball, Hockey, and the Return of Beards  Father Dave reports from Franciscan’s wild dodgeball tournament, while Deacon Bob relives Team USA’s loss to Canada—with Canadian friends in the room. Plus, big news: the Yankees are finally allowing beards, and Catholic Beard Balm gets a shout-out. 

(06:21) Robots at Bat: Baseball’s High-Tech Future  From AI strike zones to robot pitchers, the hosts debate the future of America’s pastime—and whether baseball is losing its human touch. Spoiler: Bob wants an all-robot league. 

(07:37) All-Star Salaries and Jersey Numbers  Juan Soto drops $92,000 on a teammate’s car to snag jersey #22. The hosts share stories of sportsmanship, ego, and what happens when your number has a price tag. 

(11:39) Bond, Amazon Bond  With Amazon now owning James Bond, the hosts question the future of the franchise. They rank their favorite Bonds, lament over-franchising, and long for storytelling that isn’t driven by corporate profit. 

(17:42) IVF, Life, and the Church’s Teaching  In response to Trump’s IVF executive order, Fr. Dave and Deacon Bob offer a compassionate, clear look at Catholic teaching on fertility, frozen embryos, and the dignity of human life. 

(29:33) Lent, Loopholes, and Signs of Hope  Ash Wednesday is coming! The hosts clarify fasting rules (yes, there’s an age loophole), pray for Pope Francis, and highlight hopeful moves toward child protection in the digital world. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Catholic Beard Balm – Beard care with a sacred scent (yes, it smells like chrism!) 

• USCCB Statement on IVF – Church teaching on the moral concerns of in vitro fertilization 

• James Bond films 

• Decision Points by George W. Bush – Memoir reflecting on presidential decisions, including policies around embryonic research 

 

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It’s an All-Star weekend—from the NHL to the NBA to the 50th Anniversary of Saturday Night Live—and Father Dave and Deacon Bob are here for all of it. 

In this episode, they dive into the revamped All-Star formats (including USA vs. Canada on ice), heated hockey fights, and the quirky charm of watching sports evolve. They also unpack the latest SNL celebration, share some Marvel movie hot takes, and reflect on deep questions raised by the Holy Father’s Ordo Amoris—a framework of love that recently became part of American political debate. 

Father Dave offers updates from his recent travels, including a powerful retreat experience and upcoming mission to Rwanda with Immaculée Ilibagiza. The hosts also share some signs of hope from Franciscan University’s student life and spiritual formation, including an outpouring of the Holy Spirit and young catechists preparing for service in the Church. 

From slapshots to spiritual fire, from comedy legends to calls to mercy, this episode moves with heart, humor, and hope. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) NHL vs. NBA: All-Star Weekend Shakeups 

Father Dave and Deacon Bob break down recent changes to the All-Star games. From NHL’s "Four Nations" brawls to the NBA’s round-robin format, they debate whether these events still matter—and how sports could rethink the concept of “All-Star.” 

(10:35) Austria, SNL, and Comedy Legends 

A look at the 2025 Austria Summer Experience is followed by reflections on Saturday Night Live’s 50th anniversary. The hosts remember comedy legends, share favorite skits, and explore how SNL evolved from Bill Murray to YouTube stardom. 

(16:34) Marvel Movies, Rwanda, and Blackfish 

Deacon Bob reviews Captain America: Brave New World, while Father Dave shares his experience watching Hidden Figures, Hotel Rwanda, and Blackfish—all tied to his upcoming pilgrimage to Rwanda with Immaculée Ilibagiza. 

(25:03) Ordo Amoris: Love, Politics, and Pope Francis 

After J.D. Vance references Ordo Amoris online, the hosts unpack Pope Francis' actual teaching on ordered love, immigration, and human dignity. They push back on politicized theology and highlight a powerful quote from the Holy Father. 

(33:01) Signs of Hope on Campus 

The Life in the Spirit Seminar gathers over 200 students to pray for a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Meanwhile, catechetics majors show their passion for parish ministry at Immersion Day—proof that the future of the Church is bright. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Austria Summer Experience – Franciscan University 
• Hidden Figures (Film about Black women at NASA)
• Hotel Rwanda (Genocide and forgiveness, starring Don Cheadle)
• Blackfish (Documentary on SeaWorld and orcas)
• Pope Francis’ Letter to Bishops on Ordo Amoris
• Captain America: Brave New World (Marvel Studios) 

 

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This week on They That Hope, Deacon Bob Rice and Father Dave Pivonka, TOR, tackle the rising tide of anxiety affecting young people—and all of us!  From Super Bowl surprises to shocking NBA trades, it’s a whirlwind of headlines, but the heart of this conversation is deeper: Why are so many teens (and adults) overwhelmed, and what can we do about it? 

Drawing from Dr. Greg Bottaro’s new “In Focus” series, alongside insights from The Anxious Generation and Bad Therapy, the hosts explore how overprotection in the real world and chaos online have created a generation experiencing heightened anxiety. They also reflect on parenting, prayer, digital safety, and the role of faith in fostering real peace and resilience. 

Meanwhile, Father Dave celebrates his 60th birthday (officially “elderly”), Deacon Bob returns from a retreat in Arizona and a week in Texas, and together they close with a hopeful call for Christian unity in a fractured world. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Father Dave Is Officially Old (and Kind of Okay With It)  The guys reunite after a missed week, and Deacon Bob wastes no time celebrating Father Dave’s 60th birthday. From Googling “what is old?” to surprise parties and retreat moments, the milestone gets a heartfelt and hilarious treatment. 

(01:36) Super Bowl Blowout and the Lost Art of the Commercial  The Eagles crush the Chiefs in a game full of fireworks—literally. Deacon Bob vents about the lopsided score, Father Dave praises the Clydesdale commercial, and both give nods to halftime outfits that were refreshingly modest. 

(07:02) Luka to the Lakers?! Shockwaves in the NBA  In a trade that stunned fans and players alike, Luka Dončić heads to L.A. while Anthony Davis lands in Dallas. The guys unpack how the NBA's power dynamic is shifting, and celebrate the Cavs' rise with three All-Stars on deck. 

(10:20) Faith, Anxiety, and Catholic Mindfulness  Father Dave previews the “In Focus” series with Dr. Greg Bottaro, diving into the rise in youth anxiety. Deacon Bob brings in themes from The Anxious Generation and Bad Therapy, reflecting on parenting, digital dangers, and why we need both grace and grit. 

(19:55) Safer Internet Day, Pornography, and Protecting Kids Online  From age verification laws to the “Wait Until 8th” campaign, Deacon Bob shares practical ideas for creating safer digital environments—and why this battle has to be fought together, in schools, homes, and communities. 

(26:55) Utopia, TX and the Beauty of Christian Unity  Deacon Bob recounts a week with Young Life leaders in Texas, reflecting on the joy of shared mission between Catholics and Protestants. Father Dave underscores the Church’s call to unity without compromise—celebrating common ground without denying the real differences. 

(33:11) One Easter for All? A Humble Hope for the Future  They discuss the rare year when all Christians celebrate Easter on the same day—and the Vatican’s long-standing willingness to unify Easter calendars as a sign of communion. Spoiler: Pope Francis isn’t the first to suggest it. 

(36:18) Signs of Hope: Lifelong Ministry and Lifelong Friends  Deacon Bob shares the joy of meeting youth ministers with decades of service. Father Dave reflects on 35 years of friendship and the grace of walking together in faith. It’s a fitting close to an episode that starts with age—and ends with legacy. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• In Focus with Dr. Greg Bottaro 

• The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt 

• Bad Therapy  by Abigail Shrier 

• EndSexualExploitation.com 

• “Wait Until 8th” Movement 

 

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There’s nothing like the NBA and NHL Finals… unless you count professional pillow fighting. 

In this episode, Father Dave and Deacon Bob celebrate the end of the sports season with a rundown of the Stanley Cup, the NBA Finals, and the rise of summer’s strangest athletic events, including the Pillow Fighting Championship (yes, it’s real). 

But the heart of the episode is hope—the kind that doesn’t come from scores or summer plans, but from Christ. They reflect on the Eucharist, the Sacred and Immaculate Hearts, and the graces poured out at recent conferences at Franciscan and Notre Dame. From youth ministry to marriage milestones, they explore what it means to trust God with both our spiritual and everyday needs. 

Naturally, they go off on tangents, from hotel bathrobes and awkward airline announcements to anniversary shoutouts and the idea of launching a Franciscan pillow-fighting team (tentative name: the Franciscan Feathers). 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Bathrobes, Notre Dame, and the $175 Upcharge  Deacon Bob checks in from the Morris Inn at the University of Notre Dame, complimentary robe included. He’s there for Notre Dame Vision, a youth program inviting high schoolers into deeper faith.

(03:30) Sports Wrap and the Rise of Pillow Fighting  From there, they pivot to sports: the Florida Panthers clinch the Stanley Cup, Oklahoma City Thunder top the Pacers in Game 7, and Canada’s Stanley Cup drought continues. And just when you think sports can’t get weirder—enter the Pillow Fighting Championship, now with corporate sponsorships and, apparently, rules. 

(10:31) Augustine and Airport Public Shaming  Fr. Dave highlights a recent In Focus episode featuring Dr. Shane Owens, where they unpack the enduring relevance of St. Augustine’s Confessions in a world increasingly shaped by AI and secular culture. The conversation quickly pivots, though, as Deacon Bob shares a less lofty moment: a painfully awkward moment from his flight to South Bend, where a bathroom break turned into a public shaming over the intercom. 

(19:29) Hope as Grace: Conferences and Franciscan Honeymoon  Father Dave shares stories from the Power and Purpose Conference, themed around hope. He reflects on hope as a grace—not just good vibes or optimism—and mentions a couple who spent their 50th wedding anniversary and a couple on their honeymoon at the same event. 

(23:01) Corpus Christi and the God Who Satisfies  Jesus didn’t just meet spiritual needs. He fed the crowds too. Father Dave and Deacon Bob explore how our trust in God is often strong in the abstract, but wavers in daily stresses. They tie it back to Corpus Christi, Romans 5, and the gift of the Holy Spirit. 

(28:34) Sacred Hearts, Summer Kickoffs, and Marriage Milestones  Deacon Bob celebrates 28 years of marriage on the same day as the Feast of the Immaculate Heart of Mary. He also gives a shoutout to the kickoff of Franciscan’s high school youth conferences and the ongoing Priests, Deacons, and Seminarians Retreat. 

(31:10) Praying for Peace in a Complicated World  The hosts close with a prayer for peace amid global tensions, especially in the Middle East and Ukraine. They close with a reflection on Pope Leo’s Angelus invitation to prayer and remind listeners that lasting peace only comes from the Heart of Christ. 

 

Resources & Mentions 

• Power and Purpose Conference – A weekend of renewal, prayer, and worship through Steubenville Conferences.  
• Notre Dame Vision – A summer youth program helping teens hear God’s call. 
• Romans 15:13 and Romans 5:5 – Scriptures that anchor this episode’s theme of hope 
• Pope Leo XIV: Son of St. Augustine– Watch the latest In Focus episode with guest Dr. Shane Owens on Faith & Reason.  
• Pillow Fighting Championship– Yes, it’s real. Yes, it has rules. Yes, you’re going to Google it. 

 

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Football frustration, birthday celebrations, and a million-dollar baseball card?

This week, Deacon Bob Rice and Father Dave Pivonka, TOR, bounce between sports, sacraments, science, and serious social issues—starting with the Super Bowl matchup they didn’t want but expected: Chiefs vs. Eagles. 

Along the way, they dig into the nuances of wearing clerics, honor a kid’s courage in turning down the Pirates, and highlight a new series bridging faith and science. But the conversation takes a thoughtful turn as they explore the complex Catholic response to immigration policy, urging a balance of justice, mercy, and human dignity. 

From birthday affirmations, to March for Life reflections, this episode is full of laughter, challenge, and signs of hope—reminding us that faith touches everything from the football field to the halls of Congress. Join the conversation as faith meets football, science, and social conscience. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Super Bowl Set: Chiefs vs. Eagles  The hosts reluctantly preview the big game, discuss controversial ref calls, and air their mixed feelings about Mahomes, Reid, and Kelce (plus Taylor Swift cameos). Father Dave checks betting lines; Deacon Bob groans. 

(06:13) Virtual Reality in the NFL & Bad Calls on the Field  Jaden Daniels’ VR training sparks a conversation about innovation in sports—and what makes a game feel unfair. The hosts recall past playoff heartbreaks and share Super Bowl hopes (and grudges). 

(10:46) One Million-Dollar Baseball Card  An 11-year-old unboxes a rare Paul Skenes rookie card and turns down a once-in-a-lifetime offer from the Pirates. The moral of the story? Sometimes wisdom comes from kids—and cash beats perks. 

(14:30) Faith and Science: Launching The Purposeful Lab  Dr. Dan Kuebler’s new video series, the Purposeful Lab, takes center stage. Inspired by Father Robert Spitzer’s legacy, the series explores topics like gender, the human person, and how Catholics engage the sciences without fear. 

(20:23) Travel Tales and Political Turns  Father Dave recounts his “stuck” trip to Florida and meetings in D.C. about Title IX, religious liberty, and athletics. He also shares about connecting with students at the March for Life and the power of showing up—even for a terrible bus ride. 

(26:13) Catholic Bishops and the Immigration Debate  The hosts unpack the USCCB’s recent statement on immigration, affirming the need for enforcement while condemning fear-based raids on schools, churches, and hospitals. It’s a raw and honest conversation about dignity, policy, and what the Church teaches. 

(33:29) Signs of Hope  Deacon Bob finds hope in Young Life leaders and the chance to preach to a crowd that includes his own kids. Father Dave reflects on the deeper meaning of the March for Life—why we need to gather not just to oppose abortion but to proclaim the beauty of life itself. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

•  The Purposeful Lab 

• USCCB Statement on Immigration Enforcement 

• Unstoppable 

• Gospel Reflection: Luke 4  

• March for Life  

 

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What does hope for America look like in 2025? A new inauguration, a national championship loss, and a 200th podcast episode offer some surprising answers. 

This week on They That Hope, Deacon Bob Rice and Father Dave Pivonka, TOR, reflect on what it means to hope—both in the life of our nation and in our own everyday moments. Against the backdrop of recent political transitions and ongoing national tensions, they discuss where real hope can be found: in unity, faith, and the freedom only God can give. 

They also take a hopeful look at the power of spiritual direction, the promise of Christian Unity, and the testimony of released hostages from Gaza. With plenty of laughs and some painful football heartbreak (we’re looking at you, Notre Dame), Father Dave and Deacon Bob celebrate their Episode 200 by offering their signature blend of humor and hope in today’s complex world. 

Thanks for journeying with us to Episode 200, here’s to hundreds more moments of humor, hope, and holiness. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Celebrating 200 Episodes and Football Disappointment  Father Dave and Deacon Bob mark a milestone with their 200th episode and open up about the emotional rollercoaster of Notre Dame’s national championship game. Fr. Dave processes the loss—and a 20-year-old bet with his brother—as a chance to reflect on perseverance, humility, and finding hope in defeat. 

(09:36) Spiritual Direction and the Jubilee Year of Hope  The hosts spotlight Franciscan’s School of Spiritual Direction, a transformative formation program that’s helping people walk with others in prayer. Father Dave shares how the Jubilee Mass marks a hopeful new chapter for the Church in 2025. 

(12:42) Trump’s Second Inauguration and Where Real Hope Comes From  Reactions to President Trump’s second inauguration include mixed praise and concern. The hosts reflect on how to pray for leaders, move beyond pettiness, and anchor our hope in Christ—not politics. 

(22:02) The Release of Hostages and Prayers for Peace  The release of three women held hostage by Hamas for more than 400 days brings a powerful reminder of the suffering still ongoing around the world. Father Dave and Deacon Bob encourage listeners to pray fervently for peace in the Middle East, the end of captivity, and healing for all those affected by war and violence. 

 (27:30) Christian Unity, the Conversion of St. Paul and Signs of Daily Hope  As the Church marks the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity and the Feast of the Conversion of St. Paul, the hosts celebrate the power of reconciliation, healing, and small signs of hope—including a particularly meaningful ice cube. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Franciscan University School of Spiritual Direction 

• Paul, Apostle of Christ (film recommendation) 

 

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Viva Cristo Rey!

More than a rallying cry, it echoes through history as the final words of a martyr, a witness of faith, and the heartbeat of this week’s episode. 

Father Dave returns from a pilgrimage to Mexico, where he visited the tomb of Blessed Miguel Pro and stood in the very place where the young priest was executed for celebrating Mass in secret. With deep reverence, he shares the powerful story of Miguel’s final words, “Viva Cristo Rey”, and invites listeners to consider the courage of living and dying for Christ. Meanwhile, Deacon Bob celebrates a different kind of sacramental moment: the baptism of his grandson, a joyful reminder that every life in Christ begins with water and grace. 

Of course, there’s plenty of humor, sports updates, and spiritual tangents along the way; from NFL heartbreaks to papal baptisms in the Sistine Chapel, from dry-fit habits to the not-so-ordinary season of Ordinary Time. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) NFL Disappointments and Grandson Joy  The episode opens with mixed emotions: Deacon Bob’s Tampa Bay Bucs and Father Dave’s Denver Broncos are out of the playoffs, but there’s great joy as Deacon Bob baptizes his grandson, Oliver Augustine. It’s a beautiful blend of sorrow and celebration—and a reminder that grace is found even in the midst of letdowns. 

(06:48) Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Football as Family  With Notre Dame heading to the national championship, Father Dave reflects on what this moment means to him personally. The game brings back memories of his father, his childhood, and the deeper connection sports can create across generations. 

(17:28) Pilgrimage to Guadalupe and the Witness of Blessed Miguel Pro  Father Dave shares deeply moving stories from his recent pilgrimage to Our Lady of Guadalupe, highlighting the martyrdom of Blessed Miguel Pro. From disguises and hidden Masses to the ultimate sacrifice, Miguel’s fearless cry—“Viva Cristo Rey!”—offers a timeless witness of faith under fire. 

(21:19) Baptism: Grace, Sacrament, and the Heart of the Church  The hosts dive into a rich theological reflection on baptism, emphasizing its foundational role in the Christian life. They share personal stories—from Deacon Bob’s family to Father Dave’s hospital ministry—revealing how baptism is a sacrament of both life and eternal hope. 

(26:10) Ordinary Time: Living the Gospel Daily  Ordinary Time isn’t ordinary at all. Father Dave and Deacon Bob unpack how this liturgical season, rooted in the public ministry of Jesus, calls us to deeper discipleship and attentiveness to the holiness of daily life. 

(33:30) Signs of Hope: From Martyrs to Athletes  To kick off the Year of Hope, the hosts share uplifting stories of faith—like young athletes openly praising God, a community praying amid wildfire devastation, and the unexpected rise in Bible sales among young adults. It’s a reminder that in a chaotic world, hope is alive and visible in big and small ways. 

 

Resources & Mentions 

• FaithandReason.com – Watch Father Dave’s interview with Bishop Frank Caggiano on mission and ministry. 

• Blessed Miguel Pro – Learn more about this courageous martyr and his legacy in the Church. 

• Spirit and the Bride Conference – A women’s event launching Pentecost weekend at Franciscan University. 

• CatholicPrayingCards.com – Explore Deacon Bob’s prayer tools and devotional resources. 

 

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What does it mean to begin 2025 with a Holy Door, a hoodie, and a broken rib? 

In this milestone 198th episode, Father Dave and Deacon Bob celebrate the beginning of the Jubilee Year—a time of grace, mercy, and hope that does not disappoint (Romans 5:5). The conversation moves from Rome to Guadalupe, football playoffs to fractured ribs, weaving together the sacred and the silly. They reflect on Pope Francis’ call to joyful hope, the return of traditions at Notre Dame, and the invitation for all of us to enter more deeply into this holy season. 

Of course, it wouldn’t be They That Hope without football talk, playful jabs, media hot takes, and an unexpected vacation miracle. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

 

(00:00) Hoodie Vibes and Holy Cards  Father Dave shows up relaxed in a Notre Dame sweatshirt as Deacon Bob thanks listeners for supporting CatholicPrayingCards.com. They joke about using rosary cards as poker chips—and offer a reminder to email prayer requests to  hope@franciscan.edu. 

 

(03:01) Football, Playoffs, and Penn State Picks  The Bucs are in the playoffs, Mike Evans hits 1,000 yards again, and college football turns upside down. The hosts make Super Bowl predictions and highlight Notre Dame’s big win over Georgia—and the return of pre-game Mass for the team. 

 

(12:23) A Hug and a Broken Rib  Deacon Bob recounts a Christmas moment gone wrong (or so right?): his son’s heartfelt hug ends with a fractured rib. Luckily, a birthday trip to the Dominican Republic for his wife—complete with a surprise oceanfront villa—offers unexpected blessings and much-needed rest. 

 

(15:55) SEEK, Silence, and Guadalupe  Father Dave shares moments from SEEK in Salt Lake City, where he spoke to thousands of young men about being “men after God’s heart.” He’s now off to Guadalupe, leading a Franciscan pilgrimage and inviting listeners to send prayer intentions for the journey. 

 

(20:21) Jubilee Doors and A Pope Who Hopes  As the Jubilee Year begins, Father Dave reflects on seeing preparations in Rome and Pope Francis’ call to deeper joy and hope. They discuss shifting media attitudes toward the Pope, his bold defense of life, and what it means to live as hopeful people in the Church today. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• CatholicPrayingCards.com 

• hope@franciscan.edu – Send your prayer intentions for Guadalupe 

• SEEK Conference - FOCUS 

• Jubilee Year of Hope – Romans 5:5: “Hope does not disappoint.” 

• Our Lady of Guadalupe Shrine 

• Pope Francis’ 60 Minutes Interview 

• Notre Dame Football Mass Tradition 

 

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Holy Smokes. Not just an exclamation, but a perfect reaction to an episode where sports, surprises, and the sacred collide. 

In this final 2024 episode of They That Hope, Deacon Bob shares the electric experience of standing in the tunnel as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers took the field, while Father Dave recounts something even more awe-inspiring: a private audience with Pope Francis in the Vatican. From the roar of NFL fans to the quiet reverence of the Pope’s library, the hosts explore the breadth of human experience, and the divine grace that fills it. 

They also dive into sky-high sports salaries (looking at you, Juan Soto), the mission of Franciscan University, and the heart of Christmas: Emmanuel, God with us. And yes, there's movie talk, praying cards, and a plea not to sing at Wicked. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) From the Buccaneers’ Tunnel to the Vatican Library  Deacon Bob opens the show with a thrilling story of standing in the tunnel as the Buccaneers entered the field, and spotting a rather jolly John Daly. Meanwhile, Father Dave prepares to one-up him with a different kind of entrance: into a private meeting with the Pope. 

(04:44) Tunnel Trouble, Team Gear Drama, and Raiders Shade                                       

Learn the strict tunnel rules at Raymond James Stadium, why someone got kicked out for wearing the wrong gear, and how Deacon Bob’s friend diplomatically supported both teams. 

(07:30) MLB Contracts and the Cost of a Catechist  Juan Soto’s record-breaking $765M contract sparks a passionate discussion about financial disparities, the value of ministry, and how baseball salaries can make your theology degree feel...humbling. 

(14:14) Father Dave Meets Pope Francis  The heart of the episode: Father Dave recounts his private audience with Pope Francis. From presenting the Oath of Fidelity to receiving a papal zucchetto, it's a once-in-a-lifetime moment filled with reverence, humor, and deep spiritual insight. 

(20:50) A Theological Conference with a Twist  The hosts discuss the Vatican conference on theology and culture, the difference between experience-based and revelation-based catechesis, and why Franciscan’s academic presence matters. 

(28:05) Christmas Movies, Wicked Warnings, and Red One Review  Deacon Bob gives a surprisingly heartfelt thumbs-up to Red One, starring The Rock and Chris Evans. Father Dave contemplates Wicked, but only if there's no sing-along. 

(34:39) Emmanuel, God With Us  A moving conversation about the meaning of Emmanuel and Pope Francis’ summary of the kerygma: that Jesus not only died for us, but lives beside us daily—to strengthen, enlighten, and free. 

(38:29) Final Blessing and Christmas Reflections  The hosts wrap the year with a reminder to slow down, take a breath, and remember what matters: God is with us. A final blessing for the season and prayers for all who listen. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Box of Joy – Help give a child in poverty their first Christmas gift. 

• Catholic Praying Cards – A new scriptural way to pray the rosary. 

• Franciscan University Online Degrees – Master’s programs in theology, catechetics, Catholic studies, criminal justice, and more. 

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This episode was supposed to be a regular chat… 

Until Father Dave and Deacon Bob decided to take a break. 

So instead, enjoy this special supercut episode celebrating Pope Francis’s newest encyclical, Corde Amavit (He Loved Us), with a heart-to-heart on the Sacred Heart. 

They unpack Pope Francis’s bold reflections on love, suffering, piety, and empathy—and why the Sacred Heart still speaks powerfully to our anxious, distracted world. Their reflections wind through stories of Pope statues on clearance, Deacon Bob’s favorite icons, and the quiet call to slow down, forgive, and let our hearts be changed. 

Plus: Counselor Troi, pierced sides, holy hours, and the Box of Joy: an initiative that could transform a child’s Christmas! 

Don’t miss this heartfelt compilation reminding us why the Sacred Heart still matters—especially today. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) A Box of Joy and a Pope Statue Sale  Deacon Bob opens the episode with an appeal for Box of Joy, a way to share Christmas with children in poverty. He also tells the tale of buying a Pope Francis statue on clearance—and why pity can be a spiritual act of mercy. 

(02:05) He Loved Us: Pope Francis on the Sacred Heart  Fr. Dave and Deacon Bob introduce the encyclical Corde Amavit, a deeply personal letter about the heart of Jesus. They reflect on its emotional depth, its call to compassion, and how it reveals the Pope’s heart for a wounded world. 

(09:01) Where Did Our Hearts Go?  We’ve become people of the head, not the heart. Pope Francis challenges the modern world’s obsession with intellect and technology—and invites us to rediscover devotion, empathy, and childlike wonder. 

(18:44) Saints, Statues, and the Pierced Side of Christ  From St. Augustine and St. Margaret Mary to sacred art and the Eucharist, the encyclical draws on centuries of heart-centered theology and mystical vision. The Sacred Heart isn’t just an image—it’s a real encounter with Christ. 

(34:09) Forgiveness, Free Will, and the Mission of Love  In the final reflections, Pope Francis reminds us that love must be shared. Reparation, mercy, and self-giving love flow from the Sacred Heart. God won’t force his love—but invites us to choose it, live it, and share it with others. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Box of Joy – Cross Catholic Outreach – Send a Christmas gift to a child in need 

• Corde Amavit – Pope Francis’s 2024 encyclical on the Sacred Heart (available online) 

• Return to the Heart by Dr. Shane Owens – Augustinian spirituality of the Sacred Heart 

• Examination Journal – Daily reflection tool 

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What does Ad Orientem have to do with Gladiator 2? 

Father Dave and Deacon Bob kick off the Advent season with football victories, movie mayhem, and final reflections on the pope’s encyclical on the Sacred Heart. From Notre Dame’s playoff hopes to Gladiator 2’s brooding battles, it’s an episode filled with sports, spirituality, and a surprising amount of wine. (Star Trek wine, that is.) 

They swap Thanksgiving stories, reflect on family traditions, and explore how sports can form deep relational bonds—even between a theater kid and his football-loving dad. Father Dave also shares about his upcoming trip to Rome and what it means to be a “missionary of mercy” in everyday life. 

The heart of the episode? Advent. They unpack the challenge of finding peace in the chaos, what it means to “pray always,” and why even the Son of Man’s arrival doesn’t guarantee a quiet season. Through sports, Scripture, and storytelling, they invite listeners into a deeper encounter with the Sacred Heart this Advent. 

Want to dive deeper this Advent? Pray with us and share the hope; one story, one laugh, and one sacred moment at a time. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Thanksgiving, Black Friday, and Box of Joy  Deacon Bob and Father Dave recap Thanksgiving fun, Black Friday sales, and the importance of generosity—spotlighting Box of Joy, a mission to share Christmas gifts with children in poverty. 

(02:00) Advent Begins   As the liturgical year turns, the guys reflect on awkward Advent readings, liturgical traditions like ad orientem, and creative Advent calendars. 

(03:30) Pepper Spray and Playoff Dreams  Notre Dame’s season ends with promise, while Michigan and Ohio State make headlines for pepper spray and post-game drama. They weigh playoff predictions and relive an eight-overtime thriller. 

(08:30) Touchdowns and Tearjerkers  Why do we love sports so much? Deacon Bob and Father Dave share how athletics helped shape their relationships with their dads—and how those traditions continue with their own families today. 

(16:52) Gladiators, Wicked Witches, and Sci-Fi Sips  Deacon Bob reviews Gladiator 2 (aka The Broodinator), shares reactions to Wicked and Moana 2, and debates the legacy of Gladiator while sipping on sci-fi-themed vino. 

(20:39) Advent Chaos and Finding Peace  The gospel isn’t calm—it’s cosmic chaos. The guys talk about Christ coming into disorder, the paradox of peace in the midst of mess, and how Advent offers an invitation to pray with urgency and hope. 

(27:00) Rome, Theology, and the Freedom to Love  Father Dave previews his Rome trip and the upcoming theology and culture conference—complete with Cardinal meetings, theological debates, and (maybe) an audience with the Pope. 

(34:06) Encyclical Wrap-Up: Mercy, Mission, and the Sacred Heart  The pope’s letter ends with a call to forgiveness, reparation, and living out divine love. They discuss mercy, mission, and the line: “Be your own missionary, in your own way.” 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Box of Joy – Cross Catholic Outreach – Bring Christmas to children in need 

• Gladiator 2 – Directed by Ridley Scott, starring Denzel Washington 

• Moana 2 (2025) 

• Wicked – Broadway classic hits the big screen 

• Encyclical on the Sacred Heart – Final thoughts and themes of forgiveness and reparation 

• Ad Orientem Explained – Liturgical practice during Advent 

• CatholicToTheMax.com – Use code HOPE for 10% off 

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What happens when Sidney Crosby scores his 600th goal and Deacon Bob is there to witness it? 

Father Dave and Deacon Bob kick off this Thanksgiving-themed episode with a celebration of hockey greatness, some painful sports history, and a hearty helping of NFL analysis—with bets and bold predictions included. But amid the laughs and stats, the duo also turns toward gratitude, the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and the healing power of forgiveness in family life. 

They cover everything from Crosby’s milestone and the Cavs’ red-hot streak to the Sacred Heart document from Pope Francis and an inspiring “In Person” interview with Super Bowl champ Matt Birk. Father Dave shares updates from a cozy family wedding weekend in Cleveland, while Bob gives a heartwarming update on his son Bobby’s recovery from a broken femur. 

There’s also Thanksgiving food talk, parlay bet confusion, Advent traditions (Charlie Brown on vinyl, anyone?), and deep reflections on the love of God—especially when family gatherings are hard. 

At the heart of it all? Mercy, hope, and the Sacred Heart that draws us into Advent. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Crosby’s 600th, Cold Cars, and the Garage That Never Was  Deacon Bob opens the show celebrating seeing Crosby’s 600th goal in person—then commiserates with Father Dave over frozen windshields and the friary’s lack of a garage. The guys debate footwear choices, from sandals in snow to ice-skating fatigue. 

(03:03) Betting on Thanksgiving (Not Recommended)  A deep dive into NFL parlay bets, point spreads, and bold (possibly doomed) Thanksgiving game predictions. Father Dave explains the odds while Deacon Bob learns what “the spread” actually means. Spoiler: this is not a betting podcast. 

(06:11) Family, Football, and Cold Weather Memories  Father Dave shares a story of not going to a high school game in 40-mph winds. Deacon Bob talks family life, faculty grading stress, and being thankful for having all his kids and grandkids nearby. Cue the update on Bobby’s femur and how the season of gratitude hits close to home. 

(13:52) In Person with Matt Birk: Faith in the NFL  A teaser for Father Dave’s latest In Person episode featuring former NFL star Matt Birk, who turned down a White House visit over pro-life convictions. They discuss faith in professional sports, family, and the courage to stand for your beliefs. 

(16:34) Why Thanksgiving Is a Religious Holiday  Deacon Bob and Father Dave reflect on the Christian roots of Thanksgiving and the beauty of taking a national day to thank God. They dive into favorite holiday traditions, including music cues that launch the Christmas season (Charlie Brown jazz piano, anyone?). 

(27:26) Sacred Heart: Love That Heals, Forgiveness That Frees  Drawing from Pope Francis’ document on the Sacred Heart, they reflect on how Jesus thirsts for us—and how our apathy wounds His heart. Deacon Bob shares a poignant challenge from the document: healing broken family relationships by asking forgiveness. Bonus: a quote from St. Francis de Sales that hits hard. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• CatholicToTheMax.com – Use code HOPE for 10% off merch 

• Pope Francis’ Document on the Sacred Heart – Explored in depth this episode 

• In Person Interview with Matt Birk  

 

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From NBA history to boxing hilarity to heavenly devotion, this episode covers it all. 

Father Dave and Deacon Bob kick off this episode with undefeated basketball teams, NFL surprises, and a now-notorious boxing match that left the world talking about Mike Tyson’s… britches. But the real focus? A heartfelt look at devotions to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the ways God continues to work through saints, sacraments, and sacred spaces. 

They cover everything from the Cleveland Cavaliers’ record-breaking start to Deacon Bob’s visit to the Shrine of Our Lady of Champion, the first approved Marian apparition site in the U.S. Father Dave shares exciting updates about Franciscan University’s new presence in Washington, D.C., and how students will be engaging with the nation's capital in fresh, faith-filled ways. 

Meanwhile, the duo breaks down the highly anticipated (and widely mocked) Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson fight, including buffering woes, bizarre interviews, and the mystery of Tyson’s missing pants. But at the heart of the episode is a rich discussion on how saints like St. Augustine, St. Bernard of Clairvaux, and St. Margaret Mary Alacoque open the Church to deeper encounters with the Sacred Heart—especially through the Sacraments of the Eucharist and Reconciliation. 

Naturally, there is a wide-ranging conversation: sports fandoms, pilgrimage dreams, movie trailers, and a plea for listeners to join a They That Hope pilgrimage. Through it all, the message remains: God’s heart thirsts for us—and when we encounter it, we are transformed. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Sports Glory and Cavs’ Dominance  Deacon Bob celebrates the Cavaliers’ 15-0 start, breaking team records and stepping out of LeBron James’ shadow. Father Dave joins in with NFL talk, including big wins, surprising losses, and a shoutout to Sister Mary Beth’s Steelers. 

(07:51) Mike Tyson’s Britches and Buffering Woes  The guys recount the odd spectacle of the Tyson vs. Paul fight, which featured hours of filler, bad boxing, and Tyson walking off set sans pants. Was it worth $20 million? Apparently so. 

(11:30) Pilgrimage Preview and a Shrine Visit  Deacon Bob visits the Shrine of Our Lady of Champion, sharing its miraculous history and peaceful presence. Father Dave outlines upcoming pilgrimages to Guadalupe, Rwanda (with Immaculée Ilibagiza), and more—inviting listeners to join future adventures. 

(20:53) D.C. Mission Update and Serving the Poor  Father Dave shares plans for Franciscan’s D.C. facility, where students will engage with national institutions and local outreach. The focus: forming faithful leaders who understand both poverty and policy. 

(27:19) Sacred Heart Devotions and Saints  At the heart of the episode? A deep dive into devotion to the Sacred Heart, drawing on writings of St. Augustine, St. Bernard, and St. Margaret Mary. Themes include Jesus’ thirst for us, the grace of the sacraments, and honoring Christ’s wounds. 

(36:55) Closing Prayer and Invitation to Encounter  Father Dave prays for a renewed encounter with Jesus’ Sacred Heart, especially through the Eucharist and Reconciliation. The guys invite listeners to share prayer requests and pilgrimage ideas. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• FaithandReason.com/pilgrimages – Learn about upcoming pilgrimages with Franciscan friars 

• Return to the Heart by Dr. Shane Owens – New book on Sacred Heart spirituality and St. Augustine 

• Shrine of Our Lady of Champion – Learn more about the first approved U.S. Marian apparition 
• They That Hope Merchandise – CatholicToTheMax.com 

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What do a boxing match, a beloved dog, and a playoff-bound soccer team have in common? They’re all part of the ride in this week’s episode, Taxi Driver.

Father Dave Pivonka, TOR, and Deacon Bob Rice take listeners on a wild journey through sports drama, media frenzy, and spiritual reflection—with plenty of unexpected turns and heartfelt pit stops along the way. 

They start with an NFL roundup, including shocking upsets, the Cleveland Cavaliers’ undefeated streak, and Franciscan University’s PAC soccer championship (featuring Deacon Bob’s son Colby). Along the way, they honor Ben the Dog from College GameDay, debate the surreal Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul fight, and reflect on recent election results—complete with media reactions, political hot takes, and a cameo from The View. 

But the destination is the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Drawing from Pope Francis’s new document He Loves Us, the hosts explore Jesus’s love, His gaze, and His heart that still beats for each of us. Whether you’re stuck in traffic or cruising through life, this episode reminds you that hope is never far away. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Sports, Dogs, and College Playoffs  NFL upsets, college football playoff confusion, and a moving tribute to Ben the Dog. Cavaliers remain undefeated, and Franciscan University wins the PAC in soccer—Deacon Bob’s son Colby leads the charge. 

(05:56) Father Dave’s Baseball Betrayal  Deacon Bob calls out Father Dave for watching the Lions game solo. Meanwhile, the Buccaneers lose a nail-biter. The guys debate game-day strategies and celebrate the fun of close games—even if it ends in parking lot heartbreak. 

(13:16) Election Reactions and Media Echo Chambers  Trump wins big. The hosts unpack voter shifts, media meltdowns (The View erupts), and Kamala Harris’s political future. Echo chambers are real—but so is the call to listen and love. 

(22:38) Bronny James, G League Moves, and NBA Realities  Bronny’s move to the G League sparks debate. Deacon Bob highlights his defensive skills; Father Dave questions his NBA future. The pressure of family fame and realistic expectations take center court. 

(26:04) Holy Hollywood?  New docuseries hits Fox Nation on November 17. The hosts preview this saint-focused series and reflect on Scorsese’s Catholic storytelling—past, present, and future. 

(29:08) The Sacred Heart of Jesus: A Love That Burns for You  Pope Francis’s He Loves Us takes center stage. The hosts dive into the imagery of Jesus’s gaze, His strong hands, His lips, and His heart that still beats for you—inviting all into a personal encounter with Christ’s love. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• He Loves Us – Pope Francis’s reflection on the Sacred Heart of Jesus 

• Franciscan University Alumni Website – Redesigned for connection, events, and mentoring: alumni.franciscan.edu 

• “Martin Scorsese Presents: The Saints” – Streaming November 17th on Fox Nation 

 

 

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What happens when you pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet in St. Faustina’s backyard? 

This week, Father Dave shares powerful moments from his recent pilgrimage to Poland—visiting sacred sites tied to St. Maximilian Kolbe, St. Faustina, and St. John Paul II. From celebrating Mass at Kolbe’s friary to walking through Auschwitz and Birkenau, it’s a glimpse of God’s mercy amid some of history’s darkest places. 

While Father Dave walked in the footsteps of saints, Deacon Bob found hopeful witness in the desert. He returns from the Life Teen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention in Arizona, where he gave a talk on “Radiant Hope” and reconnected with longtime friends in ministry. Together, the hosts reflect on the quiet, often unseen ways God raises up saints in every generation—even in the most unexpected places. 

And yes, this episode still includes classic They That Hope moments: breakfast with Father Dave’s brother Tom, a temporarily misplaced child on the New York subway, and a burning question: Why does the French Open have two names? 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Breakfast with Tom, Arizona Adventures, and Youth Ministry in the Desert  Deacon Bob recounts his recent trip to Arizona for the Life Teen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention where he reconnected with ministry leaders and gave a keynote on “Radiant Hope.” He also shares a surprise breakfast meet-up with Father Dave’s brother, Tom (a loyal listener), some humorous travel woes, and the joy of being surrounded by those serving the Church’s youth. 

(04:08) Sports Recap: NBA, NHL, Tennis, and... Golf?  From unexpected NBA playoff upsets to a grueling five-set French Open final, Father Dave and Deacon Bob weigh in on recent sports headlines. They touch on the drama of playoff hockey, marvel at JJ Spaun’s 62-foot putt, and clear up (sort of) why the French Open is also called Roland-Garros. 

(09:01) Audiobook Adventures  Deacon Bob announces that his book Sharing the Gospel with Our Lives is getting the audiobook treatment—and he’s narrating it himself. He shares the process (including a mysterious home studio in Columbus), while Father Dave recalls the heartbreak of being cut off with just 15 minutes left in a Navy SEAL memoir due to subscription limits. 

(16:29) Pilgrimage to Poland: Kolbe, Faustina & Divine Mercy in Dark Places  Father Dave reflects on the deeply moving pilgrimage he led across Poland. Highlights include Mass at St. Maximilian Kolbe’s friary visiting the birthplace of St. Faustina, and praying the Divine Mercy Chaplet in St. Faustina’s backyard with her niece. He shares how the lives of these saints—and the sobering visit to Auschwitz and Birkenau—revealed the light of God even in history’s darkest moments. 

(23:02) Saints Amidst Suffering  As conflict rages in places like Gaza and Ukraine, the hosts reflect on how God raises up saints in every era. From the Missionaries of Charity caring for the vulnerable in war zones, to everyday youth ministers and celibate religious, they honor those whose quiet, faithful witness brings hope to the world. 

(28:22) Radiant Hope in Service  Expanding on his convention talk, Deacon Bob shares how true Christian hope is made visible through acts of loving service. Drawing from Scripture and the Visitation of Mary, he explains how hope, though unseen, shines clearly in those who serve joyfully and sacrificially. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Sharing the Gospel with Our Lives: A Relational Approach to Catholic Youth Ministry by Deacon Bob Rice 
• LifeTeen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention 
• In Person with Bishop Cozzens on Faith&Reason 
• Hoopla streaming app 
• Franciscan Catechetical Institute 
• Divine Mercy Shrine in Kraków, Poland 
• Niepokalanów, St. Maximilian Kolbe’s Friary 
• Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial and Museum 
• How to Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet 

 

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When baseball’s over but the sports drama keeps coming, Disney magic meets Austrian coffee breaks, and the Pope drops a love letter to the Sacred Heart—you know it’s time for another episode of They That Hope. 

Father Dave and Deacon Bob return from their travels (Father Dave from Franciscan University’s Austrian study abroad site and Deacon Bob from Disney World) with colds, laughs, and plenty of stories. They celebrate the birth of Bob’s second grandson, recap the Dodgers’ World Series win, and share sports updates from the Cavs’ hot streak to Bronny James’ first NBA basket. 

Movie talk ranges from Inside Out 2 and Usain Bolt documentaries to the upcoming Bonhoeffer film (and why Conclave should probably be on your “skip” list—yes, even if you love Church drama). But the heart of the episode is a first look at Pope Francis’ new encyclical Delixit (“He Loves Us”)—a heartfelt nudge to put the brakes on our overthinking and rediscover the heart in a world addicted to speed, intellect, and opinions. 

There’s also some lively pre-election chatter, surprising stats about U.S. yogurt spending, and a gentle dare to slow down, pray, and maybe eat your yogurt without scrolling Instagram. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Back from the Road and Under the Weather  Fresh from Austria and Disney World, the guys trade travel stories—Epcot adventures, international meetings, and the joy of welcoming Oliver Augustine Rice, Bob’s second grandson. 

(03:33) Dodgers, Dogs, and a $4.4 Million Baseball  World Series recap: Dodgers win in five, Shohei’s dog steals the parade, and Freddie Freeman’s faith shines. Plus, a wild story about a Yankee fan, Mookie Betts, and a lifetime stadium ban. 

(07:22) Notre Dame, the Cavs, and Bronny James  College football playoff hopes, NBA updates, and the electric moment when Bronny James scored his first NBA points in Cleveland. 

(09:50) Movie Reviews: From Pixar to Bonhoeffer  Father Dave praises Inside Out 2  for its thoughtful take on emotions, and the guys look ahead to Bonhoeffer. A strong “do not recommend” for Conclave. 

(20:44) Pope Francis’ Encyclical: “He Loves Us”  Introducing  Delixit, the Pope’s heartfelt reflection on the Sacred Heart, the loss of devotion in modern culture, and why recovering the heart is essential for faith and humanity. 

(26:19) Heart vs. Head  How over-intellectualism, busyness, and technology distract us from love. Why pondering in the heart (like Mary) changes how we live. 

(33:16) Looking Ahead  Prayer and fasting for the election, community events, and a reminder that hope is found in encountering the Heart of Jesus. 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Pope Francis’ Delixit (He Loves Us) – Full Text 

• Franciscan University’s Faith and Reason – Weekly Scripture Reflections 

• Pray on Paper – Examination Journal 

 

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What happens when a World Series rematch decades in the making sets the sports world buzzing—and a lesser-known Catholic emperor’s story steals the spotlight? 

In this episode, Father Dave Pivonka and Deacon Bob Rice dive into the historic Yankees vs. Dodgers matchup, share strong opinions on football season, and celebrate the feast of St. John Paul II, while introducing listeners to the inspiring life of Blessed Karl of Austria. They also tackle the state of college athletics, Deacon Bob’s new book on relational youth ministry, and a surprising Donald Trump drive-thru appearance at McDonald’s. 

Along the way, Arthur Brooks’ insights on “subversive Catholicism” spark a conversation on belonging, dialogue, and evangelization in a divided world. And yes, there are tangents, including WNBA finals, Shohei Ohtani’s dog, and even a moon-cheese joke. Because it wouldn’t be They That Hope without them. 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) World Series Set: Yankees vs. Dodgers  The guys kick off with MLB history, past matchups, and which team they’re (reluctantly) rooting for. Along the way, they reminisce about famous baseball moments and predict how many games it’ll take to crown a champion. 

(04:12) Football Frenzy: NFL, College, and Transfer Portal Chaos  From the Lions’ hot start to Bo Nix’s rookie success in Denver, the NFL updates come fast. College football’s transfer portal and NIL deals spark debate, including a viral coach resignation over the state of the game. 

(13:21) Youth Ministry with Heart: Deacon Bob’s New Book  Deacon Bob introduces Sharing the Gospel with Our Lives, explaining why relationships—not just programs—are the key to effective ministry. He shares the book’s origin, the audience it’s for, and why he hopes it will inspire volunteers, parents, and youth leaders alike. 

(18:12) Drive-Thru Politics and a VP Rally Gaffe  A lighthearted take on Donald Trump working at a McDonald’s drive-thru and Vice President Harris’ rally misstep, plus a shoutout to Bob’s recent retreat in Austin, Texas. 

(20:18) Arthur Brooks on Belonging and Evangelization  Father Dave recaps Brooks’ talk on engaging with those we disagree with—without contempt. The guys reflect on the role of relationship in ministry, especially with young people influenced by media and culture. 

(27:26) Feast of St. John Paul II & Blessed Karl of Austria  Stories and legacies of two saints: John Paul II’s magnetic witness and Karl of Austria’s deep commitment to peace. Father Dave shares personal encounters with Karl’s son Otto and the connection to Franciscan’s Austria campus. 

(34:06) Saints for All People  A nod to John Paul II’s prolific canonizations and his reminder that holiness is for everyone—not just the “superstars.” 

 

Resources Mentioned 

• Steubenville Youth Conferences – Registration Open 

• Order Sharing the Gospel with Our Lives by Deacon Bob Rice 

• Arthur Brooks – Talks on happiness, faith, and civil dialogue 

• Blessed Karl of Austria – Biography 

 

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There’s nothing like landing fighter jets on a moving ship… unless you count watching Vanderbilt fans carry a goalpost three miles to a river. 

In this episode, Father Dave Pivonka and Deacon Bob Rice cover a lot of ground—starting with Father Dave’s 26 hours aboard a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier and somehow ending up in a debate over the MLB playoffs—with plenty of stops in between for college football’s biggest upset, Pete Rose’s Hall of Fame hopes (and his knack for stirring up controversy). They weave in hurricane updates, election-season frustrations, and how to keep hope anchored in Christ when the headlines and commercials make it hard. 

At the heart of the episode is a challenge to engage the world with charity and courage. Whether it’s honoring military service, keeping politics civil, or discussing parish life, the conversation stays rooted in what it means to be “radically Catholic and genuinely normal” —echoing the wisdom of upcoming Franciscan University guest speaker Arthur Brooks. 

Naturally, there are tangents, from debating Dodgers vs. Guardians, to the questionable safety of glass mugs in Deacon Bob’s online store, to daydreaming about recording a future episode live at a Savannah Bananas game (because why not add “banana ball” to the podcast bucket list?). 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) Little Carl from Up and Listener-Centric Podcasting  The show kicks off with banter about Father Dave’s resemblance to the Pixar character and a new focus on speaking directly to listeners. There’s also a sheepish admission of forgetting to mention the Feast of St. Francis in a recent episode. 

(02:00) Hurricanes, Helena, and Power Outages  Prayers and updates for friends and parishes in Tampa and the Carolinas following recent storms. Some still without power, but grateful the damage wasn’t as bad as feared. 

(03:36) NFL and College Football Upsets  Bucs beat the Saints, Lions crush the Cowboys, Notre Dame dominates, Ohio State falls to Oregon, and Vanderbilt takes down Alabama for the first time in half a century—prompting fans to rip out the goalposts and parade them through town. 

(07:13) MLB Playoffs and the Pete Rose Debate  Guardians still alive, Dodgers, Mets, and Yankees in the mix. The hosts remember Pete Rose—celebrated for his record-breaking hits, banned for betting on baseball. Should he be in the Hall of Fame? Father Dave offers his verdict (with an asterisk). 

(14:40) 26 Hours on an Aircraft Carrier  Father Dave recounts his once-in-a-lifetime visit: watching night landings, meeting 19-year-old sailors steering the ship, and hearing stories of sacrifice. Reflections on gratitude for the military, especially in light of global tensions. 

(22:39) Political Ads, Candidate Fatigue, and True Hope  Frustrations over divisive campaign commercials in battleground states. Honest conversation about voting with conscience, media-driven anxiety, and remembering that our hope must be in Christ—not political figures or parties. 

(29:35) Arthur Brooks, “Radical Catholicism,” and Civil Conversations  Preview of an upcoming Franciscan University event with Brooks, who encourages Catholics to be boldly faithful yet approachable. Examples from campus life of students disagreeing charitably on liturgy without division. 

(33:36) Prayer for Peace, Unity, and Hope  The episode closes with a prayer for charity in conversation, peace in political discourse, and renewed hope for anyone struggling with national or personal anxieties. 

 

Resources & Mentions 

• Franciscan University of Steubenville – Learn more about upcoming conferences and events. 

• Franciscan Magazine Online – Stories from campus and beyond. 

• Arthur Brooks – Author, Harvard professor, and upcoming Franciscan University guest speaker. 

• Savannah Bananas – The “banana ball” team Father Dave wants to see live. 

 

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Deacon Bob met Captain Kirk!

He and Father Dave talk about the “Brady vs. Baker” fight, MLB playoffs, and going to Hamilton with students. They also offer prayers for those affected by the hurricane this past weekend.

 

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Father Dave’s Broncos beat Deacon Bob’s Buccaneers, yet they remain good friends!

They discuss other NFL results, Shohei Ohtani’s “50/50” season, World Series predictions, violence in the Middle East, and the Vatican’s recent approval of Medjugorje devotion.

 

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Deacon Bob calls in from Kansas City!

He and Father Dave talk about the NFL, concussions, last week’s presidential debate, and active shooter drills. They conclude by reflecting on the promise of Jesus, “I have overcome the world” (John 16:33).

 

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This episode is essentially a therapy session to console Father Dave after the shock loss of Notre Dame football.

He and Deacon Bob also discuss the NFL (Bucs win!), the baseball game they almost went to, 9/11, James Taylor, and the Exaltation of the Cross.

 

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Deacon Bob finally found something worth watching in baseball!

He and Father Dave talk about the opening weekend of college football, a pregnant Paralympian, being trapped in space, and the legacy of St. Teresa of Calcutta.

 

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It’s back to school time!

Father Dave and Deacon Bob talk about classes resuming at Franciscan University, NFL kickoff weekend, steroid baseball, identity politics, and what it means to be a “community of believers.”

 

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Father Dave and Deacon Bob recap the highs (Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone) and lows (Raygun) of the 2024 Olympics! They also talk about Taylor Swift, politics, Alaska, and sacred art.

 

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There’s a new pope—and he’s an Augustinian!  

In this episode, Father Dave and Deacon Bob discuss the election of Pope Leo XIV, the first member of the Order of St. Augustine to lead the Catholic Church. They explore why St. Augustine’s Confessions remains a spiritual masterpiece and how his vision of community, conversion, and interior prayer speaks to the Church’s call for renewal today. 

Naturally, they go off on many tangents, starting with a chilly trip to Cedar Point, detouring through spelling bee glory and NFL drama, and ending in Poland (via pilgrimage, not roller coaster). And yes, they say “Pope” a lot. Allegedly, it boosts downloads. (Spoiler: It works.) 

 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00) T-Shirts, Field of Dreams, and the Pope Bump  The episode opens with an early Father’s Day gift: a nostalgic T-shirt featuring Field of Dreams. This sparks a discussion about podcast stats and the surprisingly real “Pope bump,” where there seems to be an uptick in listeners anytime the pope is mentioned in the title. For science, they test it live. 

(03:45) Teacups, Tournaments, and the Cold Ride of Aging  Deacon Bob recounts a brisk grandkid-filled day at Cedar Point, while Father Dave recaps the equally chilly Memorial Golf Tournament in Dublin, Ohio. Along the way, they correct a Jack Nicklaus/Jack Nicholson mix-up and debate whether roller coasters or golf better reveal our age. 

(10:28) Spelling Bees, Stage Fright, and Childhood Wins  The Scripps National Spelling Bee champ nails “éclaircissement,” then collapses with joy. That memory sparks their own stories: Father Dave’s catechism bee victory and Deacon Bob’s state theater auditions. They reflect on the pressure of performing, the resilience it builds, and how these moments shape us. 

(16:11) Pope Leo XIV, St. Augustine, and Why Confessions Still Matters  The first Augustinian pope opens the door to rich reflections on St. Augustine’s enduring legacy. Father Dave and Deacon Bob spotlight Return to the Heart by Dr. Shane Owens, which unpacks the biblical themes in Confessions for today’s reader. Owens also recently joined Father Dave for an episode of Franciscan University Presents to discuss how Augustine’s life and writings continue to guide hearts back to Christ. 

(21:05) Pentecost, Pilgrimages, and the Road Ahead  Pentecost kicks off a summer of spiritual encounters: Heather Khym leads the first Glory: A Women’s Gathering, Deacon Bob heads to the LifeTeen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention, and Father Dave departs for a pilgrimage to Poland to visit sites connected to St. John Paul II, St. Faustina, and St. Maximilian Kolbe. They share the joys of ministry on the move and the fresh hope the Holy Spirit always brings. 

Resources Mentioned 

• Return to the Heart: The Biblical Spirituality of St. Augustine's Confessions by Dr. Shane Owens 
• St. Augustine’s Confessions and Us with guest Dr. Shane Owens – Franciscan University Presents 
• Glory: Women’s Gathering Steubenville Conference with Heather Khym 
• LifeTeen Catholic Youth Ministry Convention 
• Confessions by St. Augustine  
• Poland Pilgrimage: In the Footsteps of St. John Paul II & St. Faustina with Father Dave Pivonka, TOR 

 

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Father Dave and Deacon Bob conclude their analysis of the seven deadly sins. In this episode, they discuss lust, gluttony, and wrath. 

**PARENTAL WARNING** This episode contains open discussion about mature subjects. Headphones recommended.

Listen to Part 1 of this episode here!

 

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Father Dave and Deacon Bob are back in the studio together!

They catch up on a crazy two weeks of Olympic scandals, political mishaps, and amazing conference experiences.

 

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Fr. Dave and Heather Khym team up for a very special crossover episode, recorded with a live audience at the National Eucharistic Congress in Indianapolis!

 

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Ever feel like your brain is juggling ten thoughts at once–while also trying to remember where you left your keys? Father Dave and Deacon Bob chat about the wild, wonderful world of ADHD–the struggles, the strengths, and how it can be gift in disguise.

In this episode, Deacon Bob discusses his recent ADHD diagnosis and how it has transformed his approach to life, work, and faith. With insights from the book ADHD Is Awesome: A Guide to Mostly Thriving with ADHD, the hosts explore how accepting ADHD quirks can boost creativity. This acceptance can also lead to deeper spiritual growth and a lot of joyful chaos.

Of course, no episode is complete without a bit of world news, sports, and history. Father Dave and Deacon Bob discuss the electric energy of the Copa América, the Euro Cup, and the touching return of Princess Kate to public life at Wimbledon.

They also commemorate the 800 anniversary of St. Francis of Assisi receiving the stigmata–because if there’s one saint who fully embodied divine intensity, it’s Francis. The conversation turns to the prophetic voice of Pope Paul VI and the urgent need for unity and prayer in the wake of the attack on former President Donald Trump.

And because ADHD means jumping between topics is inevitable, they also invite listeners to engage with the Jubilee Year of Hope, reflecting on its spiritual significance, and the transformative power of pilgrimage.

From indulgences to the upcoming Eucharistic Congress, this episode is a heartfelt exploration of hope, unity, and the enduring strength found in community and faith.

 

Highlighted Sections

(00:00) Chaos in Soccer and Politics Father Dave and Deacon Bob chat about the wild world of soccer fandom, from the electrifying Copa América final to Spain’s Euro Cup victory. They compare the rowdy energy of European crowds to America’s more reserved enthusiasm. Plus, a look at Princess Kate’s emotional return to Wimbledon.

(08:07) Current Events and Political Commentary Marking 800 years since St. Francis received the Stigmata, the hosts reflect on his radical faith and a special conference at Franciscan University. They also discuss the prophetic legacy of Pope Paul VI and the urgent need for unity following the recent attack on former President Trump.

(17:54) ADHD Appreciation Deacon Bob discusses his ADHD diagnosis and how it’s reshaped his approach to faith and life. They unpack the book ADHD Is Awesome: A Guide to Mostly Thriving with ADHD and how embracing neurodivergence can be a superpower. Expect plenty of humor, honesty, and a few scattered thoughts.

(25:07) Year of Jubilee and Pilgrimage Hope The Jubilee Year is all about hope–and pilgrimages, whether to Rome or the cathedral down the street. Father Dave and Deacon Bob discuss the 1700 anniversary of the Council of Nicaea and (half-jokingly) pitch a podcast pilgrimage to Disney World.

(32:05) Sacraments, Indulgences, and Hope Indulgences aren’t just old-school Catholicism–they’re a roadmap to healing. The hosts break down how they work, why they matter, and how the upcoming Eucharistic Congress is the perfect time to embrace grace and renewal.

(36:46) Hope and Prayer at Franciscan Need prayer? Franciscan University has you covered. Send in a request or stop by booth #340 at the congress to connect with a community rooted in faith and hope.

 

Resources Mentioned

Watch the Livestream of the Marked With the Wounds of Christ: An Academic Conference on the Stigmatization of St. Francis.

Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis by J.D. Vance

ADHD Is Awesome: A Guide to (Mostly) Thriving with ADHD by Penn and Kim Holderness

Spes Non Confundit (Hope Does Not Disappoint) Papal Bull by Pope Francis

 

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Father Dave and Deacon Bob talk about the scandal in MLE (Major League Eating), the new basketball Olympic Dream Team, politics, and Pope Francis’ new edict, “Hope Does Not Disappoint.”

 

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In a slow sports week, Deacon Bob is excited that Bronny James gets to play with his dad in the NBA. Father Dave has a different opinion. They also discuss the Olympics, the presidential debate, and the upcoming 2025 Jubilee Year.

 

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Father Dave and Deacon Bob talk about sports, weddings, the Priests, Deacons, Seminarians Retreat, fatherhood, Steubenville Youth Conferences, and the Eucharistic Revival Pilgrimage that came to Steubenville last weekend.

This episode is sponsored by Catholic Charities USA. Help Catholic Charities serve your neighbors in need.

 

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Father Dave and Deacon Bob are thrilled that USA beat Pakistan in the World Cup of Cricket, though neither of them know anything about that sport. They talk about the U.S. Open, NBA and NHL finals, Fr. Dave’s pilgrimage to Assisi, challenges in the Diocese of Steubenville, local tragedies, and claiming victory in Jesus Christ.

This episode is sponsored by Catholic Charities USA. Help Catholic Charities serve your neighbors in need. 

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While Father Dave is leading people on a pilgrimage to Assisi, we bring you this compilation episode of our discussions on Sloth, Envy, Pride, and Greed.  

Don’t worry: Father Dave and Deacon Bob know that there are three more deadly sins, and will discuss those in future shows.  For now, enjoy this supercut!

This episode is sponsored by Catholic Charities USA. Help Catholic Charities serve your neighbors in need. 

Listen to Part 2 of this episode here!

 

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Father Dave and Deacon Bob catch up on the NBA, NHL, WNBA, MLB, and even the UFL! They also discuss Trump, pilgrimages, and Pope Francis’ interview on 60 Minutes.

 

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Why does the Ascension of Jesus—one of the great feasts of the Church—end up celebrated on a Sunday in most dioceses, while others keep it on Thursday? And what does that tell us about our faith, traditions, and the challenges of Holy Days of Obligation? Father Dave and Deacon Bob unpack the significance of the Ascension within the Paschal Mystery, showing why it’s more than just a “tag-on” after Easter, but a powerful reminder of Christ’s victory and our shared destiny in Him. But as usual, sports, movies, and mild chaos before the theology kicks in. Join them as they recap the NBA and NHL playoffs, share stories from the Indy 500, Monaco Grand Prix, and Coca-Cola 600, and offer a review of Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning (complete with seat mix-ups and a D-Box adventure). They also chat about Father Dave’s solo Thai food outing, pay tribute to the late George Wendt—aka Norm from Cheers—and reflect on how these everyday moments can point us toward joy, gratitude, and community. The episode wraps with humor, brotherhood, and a reminder that no matter where you are—whether at a car race, a movie theater, or Mass on Sunday—our true hope is in Jesus Christ. And yes, the Topps Pope Leo XIV baseball card is still on their wish list. Highlighted Sections (00:00) Playoff Plot Twists, Fast Cars, and Father Dave’s Almost-Trip to the Indy 500 Father Dave and Deacon Bob kick off the episode with a rundown of the latest sports headlines, including the Pacers and Knicks battling in the NBA playoffs, and the Edmonton Oilers and Florida Panthers making waves in the NHL. They also discuss the excitement surrounding the Indy 500, the Monaco Grand Prix, and the Coca-Cola 600. (12:07) Movie Review: Mission Impossible + Solo Movie Etiquette Father Dave recounts his solo movie theater adventure to see Mission Impossible: Final Reckoning, complete with a funny seating mishap and his first-ever D-Box chair experience. They reflect on the perks (and occasional awkwardness) of going to the movies alone, and whether movie theaters are best for deep conversations or just a chance to unwind. (20:03) Thai Food, Pity Tips, and Remembering Norm The conversation shifts to Father Dave’s recent solo Thai food experience—one of the best meals he’s ever had, which he may or may not have posted about on Instagram—and a reflection on how dining alone can be a quiet joy. They also pay tribute to the late George Wendt (Norm from Cheers)and share laughs about a show that captured the essence of community in the most unexpected places. (26:13) Relics on Display and Catholic Curiosities The hosts dive into the story of St. Teresa of Avila’s relics being publicly displayed, exploring the beauty, reverence, and quirkiness of Catholic traditions. They discuss how relics inspire faith, connect us to the saints, and remind us that the Church is both ancient and alive. (28:41) Thursday or Sunday? The Ascension’s Place in the Paschal Mystery Father Dave and Deacon Bob unpack why the Ascension is a crucial part of the Paschal Mystery, how it’s celebrated differently across dioceses, and why it’s much more than just a calendar quirk. They encourage listeners to see these Holy Days as not just “rules to follow” but as moments to pause, celebrate, and remember the story of salvation. (37:45) Closing Blessings, Pentecost Prep, and Hope in the Everyday The episode wraps with reflections on Pentecost, Holy Days of Obligation, and staying grounded in faith—whether you’re at a playoff game, a movie theater, or wrangling kids at home. Father Dave offers a prayer for graduates, families, and the entire They That Hope community, with a reminder that hope is our anchor—on Thursdays, Sundays, or any day in between. Resources Mentioned

• Steubenville Conferences – SteubenvilleConferences.com
• Discipleship Quads – dquads.com
• Topps Pope Leo XIV Baseball Card

 

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Father Dave and Deacon Bob talk about imprisoned golfers, fist fights at NASCAR, commencement speeches, and Christ the King Chapel.

 

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Father Dave and Deacon Bob talk about NBA and NHL finals, Mother’s Day (belated), graduation at Franciscan, and the feasts of the Ascension and Pentecost.

 

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Deacon Bob is excited that the Cavaliers have made it to the semi-finals, and Father Dave brings up close finishes in auto- and horse-racing. They also talk about finals week, the upcoming graduation at Franciscan, and vocations (it was Fr. Dave’s 28th anniversary last Saturday).

 

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Father Dave visited Mexico City, and Bob’s son got engaged!

They talk about NBA and NHL playoffs, the baseball uniform controversy, protests on college campuses, Franciscan’s response to new Title IX changes, and Our Lady of Guadalupe.

 

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