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Today we’re sharing a conversation with New York Times Best Selling Author, Kristin Kobes Du Mez. Kristin and Katy discuss her upcoming book, “Live Laugh Love: The Secret History of White Christian Women and the World They Made.” In this episode you’ll hear Kristin share insights on new thought and positive thinking, Elisabeth Elliot, Hobby Lobby, network marketing, and more.

Make sure you stick around for our bonus conversation on Substack with Kristin where we discuss the influencers and prominent Christian women she writes about in the book and their take on Live Laugh Love. Don’t forget that you can join our Second Service community and have access to all our subscriber perks for just $12 a month, including weekly bonus episodes, exclusive content and our quarterly book club, including live Q&A sessions with authors.

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Today we’re sharing a conversation with brand new author, Chelsea Long. Chelsea and Katy discuss her upcoming book, “Faithfully Dissident Daughters: Reclaiming Christian Womanhood Beyond Patriarchy” and how it’s possible to question your faith without completely losing it. They also discuss how Chelsea’s own experience during postpartum that led to her own faith deconstruction and the many ways the female body and experience can reveal the heart of God.

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Today we are featuring an episode with professor, author, and theologian, Sandra Glahn. Sandra and Katy discuss her latest book, “A Woman’s Place is in the Story” and all the ways we misread women’s stories inside of scripture, as well as her 10 year journey with infertility and how it impacted her ministry and writing.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with New Testament Scholar and author, Zachary Wagner. Zachary recently authored a book called “Men of Virtue,” and Katy and Zach discuss all things masculinity and why more and more young men are drawn to what I would consider “manosphere” influencers for their formation as Christian men rather than looking to the person and work of Christ. They also discuss why the phrase toxic masculinity often shuts down conversations, why more men are being drawn to religious institutions, as well as how we can help the men in our lives embrace a more Godly form of masculinity.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with author, Lydia Grace Kaiser about her new book, Bible Truth About Women: What They Don’t Tell You.” In many ways, Lydia Grace continues the dialogue Katy had with Preston Sprinkle back in March of 2026 and takes her readers further into issues such as the “misleading claims” that those in complementarian spaces have used as a means to bar women from church leadership.

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Today we are sharing a really a recent conversation with my new friend, author and pastor, Kimberly Knowle Zeller. Kimberly and Katy discuss her new book, “Small Steps: Blessings to Lift Your Soul on the Pilgrimage of Life”, as well as her journey on the Camino de Santiago, the power of offering blessings for every season and circumstance in life and so much more.

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Today we are featuring a conversation with author, musicologist, and frequent contributor to Christianity Today, Kelsey Kramer McGinnis. Kelsey and Katy talk about all things church ministry and worship leading, especially as it pertains to women. They discuss why women can write worship songs and lead them, often praying and speaking between songs, but are not able to preach in certain faith spaces and how blurry that line really is. They also discuss topics like aging out of leadership, funny baby voice, tracks, tech in worship, and more.

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Today we are sharing recent conversation Katy had with her friend, artist and entrepreneur, Grace Snively, about a high control group they were both part of over a decade ago. Grace and Katy process what it was like to be in the group in real time, as well as what it was like to leave the group, and rebuilding your faith after leaving a group like this.

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Today we are sharing our first ever listener mailbag episode where Katy answers your questions. Katy is joined by her husband Jon for this conversation who chimes in and shares his take on household responsibilities, time management, egalitarian marriage, healthy churches, seminary, and more. And make sure you listen through till the end for two very exciting Theology Girls announcements.

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Today we are sharing a special bonus conversation with Amanda McCracken, author of “When Longing Becomes Your Lover” and limerence expert. Amanda shares about her experience as a 40 year old virgin who had become addicted to longing for love rather than actually pursuing healthy relationships, and how she connects the harmful teachings of purity culture to her struggles.

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Today we are sharing a conversation featuring podcaster, author and “Insta Pastor,” Kristin Mockler Young. Kristin and Katy discuss her upcoming book “The Other Side of Certainty” and what it looks like to live inside tension rather than look for clear cut answers when it comes to faith. Kristin shares about her rise to internet fame and what it’s like being a female pastor, particularly one who’s been outspoken about Christian nationalism and caring for marginalized communities, as well as diet culture and raising daughters.

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Today we are sharing a conversation featuring author and feminist theologian, Claire McKeever Burgett. Claire and and Katy discuss both her books, Blessed are the Women and In the Beginning Were the Women and how she uses the art of sacred imagination to retell the stories of lesser known women throughout the Biblical text. Claire also explains how she uses the ancient Jewish practice of midrash in her writing, as well as what an embodied liturgy looks like for Christians today.

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Today we are sharing a recent conversation with Kari Maddox about what it’s really like to be a female pastor. Katy and Kari discuss her recent rise to internet fame due to a series of reels she created addressing women’s leadership roles in the Bible and early church, as well as the push back she’s received. Kari also shares about her ministry journey and misconceptions some people may have when it comes to female pastors.

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Today we are sharing a recent conversation spiritual director, coach, and author, Bekah Stewart to discuss her book “Permission to Matter: Reclaiming Women’s Humanity & Authority at the Invitation of Jesus”. In this conversation, Bekah and Katy discuss the value of spiritual direction, advice for women who feel sidelined in faith based spaces and what it looks like to come out of hiding. Bekah also shares various spiritual practices and questions to ask to help women identify their God given calling.

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Today we are sharing a recent conversation with author Anna Rollins about her new memoir “Famished: On Food, Sex, and Growing Up as a Good Girl”. Katy and Anna discuss how growing up in conservative spaces shape how women view their bodies, disordered eating, complicated GLP1 medication marketing, and how we can raise children to have healthy relationships with food.

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Today we are interrupting our podcast schedule to bring you a conversation Katy had last week with Executive Director of Baptist Women in Ministry, Meredith Stone. Katy and Meredith discuss the recent SBC vote to further restrict the voices of women as well as do a deep dive on the tainted history of the Southern Baptist Church. Meredith also explains why this issue continues to come up over and over and why simply leaving the denomination is sometimes more complicated than we think.

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Today we are sharing a bonus conversation with Jamaican-Canadian Gospel artist and songwriter, K-Anthony. K-Anthony was the winner of the prestigious 2024 Juno Award for Contemporary Christian/Gospel Album of the Year with his EP Arrow. Katy and K-Anthony discuss his recent graduation from seminary and why writing theologically sound and rich music matters. They also discuss the intersection of the music industry and AI as well as staying grounded when you’re given a platform.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with Pastor Benjamin Cremer about his work in combating Christian Nationalism online and why it matters. Ben and Katy discuss his unlikely rise to internet fame and how at times it has come with a cost, as well as why most pastors are seemingly afraid to talk about suffering and injustices from the pulpit. Ben also walks us through the many ways Christian Nationalism has harmed women in particular.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with author, professor and theologian Beth Felker Jones about her new book, “Why I Am Protestant.” Beth and Katy discuss what Protestant has to offer believers (especially women) while many believers are being drawn to Roman Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy. Beth also reframes what some may see as division as each specific denomination fulfilling a calling to show an aspect of God’s nature to the world.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with theologian, professor and author, Ingrid Faro, about her newest book “Redeeming Eden”. Ingrid shares how many people throughout history have misinterpreted creation and the fall in ways that oppress and limit women, as well as how women in the Bible advance the story of salvation. We also talk about Ingrid’s nontraditional faith journey, deconstruction, and what it was like essentially starting over in her 40s.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with pastor, professor, and author Matthew Kim about his new book “Becoming a Friendlier Church.” In this conversation, Matthew and Katy talk through why most churches perceive themselves as friendly even when that is not the felt experience of visitors, and how often minority groups have often been made to feel left out in church spaces. Matt discusses how pastors can also practice inclusivity in their preaching without compromising their values.

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Today we are sharing a recent conversation with author Dorothy Greco about her new book, “For the Love of Women: Uprooting and Healing Misogyny in America.” In this episode, Dorothy and Katy discuss what exactly misogyny is and how it shoes up across a variety of spheres, including the church, and what faith leaders can do about it.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with friend of the podcast and upcoming author, Jessica LM Jenkins. Jessica and Katy discuss the Proverbs 31 woman, who she was and who she wasn’t. Jessica and Katy discuss how to read wisdom literature as a whole and also how pastors and ministry leaders can teach on the Proverbs 31 without shaming women.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with Christian marriage and sex expert, Sheila Gregoire. Sheila is known for her podcast Bare Marriage and the multitude of books she’s written on the subject, including The Great Sex Rescue, The Marriage You Want, She Deserves Better, and a Good Girls Guide to Sex (just to name a few). Sheila and Katy discuss all things purity culture and complementarian theology and why hierarchy is bad for women, sex, marriages, and the church.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with Biblical Scholar and president of The Center for Women in Leadership, Dr. Lynn Cohick. Lynn and Katy discuss all things women in the New Testament and Early Church, including why historical context matters when approaching Biblical stories, hidden figures in the writings of Paul, all the ways females have contributed to Christian thought and theology, and so much more.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with author and historian Daniel Hummel about his book “The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism.” Daniel not only defines dispensationalism but also discusses why he thinks this theology (which places a heavy emphasis on Israel and a physical rapture of the church) has made its way into American politics and why it’s appeal has begun to fade over the past decades, particularly with Gen Z and Millennial adults.

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Today we are sharing a conversation with author, Elizabeth Berget about her upcoming book, “Love Like a Mother: How the Sacred Work of Motherhood Reveals the Maternal Heart of God.” Elizabeth and Katy discuss what inspired her to write this book as well as the pressures placed on young moms to get it right and the misconception that God is male and how it may impact our theology negatively. Elizabeth also recounts the ways she experienced women and mothers particularly caring for the immigrant community in Minneapolis during the ICE raids this winter.

You can pre-order “Love Like a Mother” anywhere books are sold or by clicking here and the book will officially release on May 5th.

Follow Elizabeth on Instagram at @elizabeth.e.berget and on Substack by clicking here.

Additional Resources:

Try Softer: A Fresh Approach to Move Us out of Anxiety, Stress, and Survival Mode--and into a Life of Connection and Joy by Aundi Kolber

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Today we are sharing a conversation with Behold Coffee founder and owner, Rachael Steudeman. If you’re new to the podcast, check out episode 11 with Katy and Rachael as they discuss their friendship and reconciliation process. In this episode, you’ll hear how Behold Coffee went from a dream to reality in just a matter of months. Rachael also shares valuable tips for anyone hoping to start a business of their own, and how she plans to be a Christian business that actually engages culture and impacts the local community.

You won’t want to miss our bonus Substack episode with Rachael where she and Katy discuss how the charismatic church often mishandles issues surrounding chronic illness, grief and infertility.

Behold Coffee officially opens for business on 4/11 in Kimmswick, Missouri, just south of St. Louis. You can purchase coffee beans and have them shipped to your home anywhere in the United States by clicking here.

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Today, we’ve got a really important conversation to share with you featuring licensed psychologists and authors, Mark Yarhouse and Julia Sadusky to discuss their new book, “Emerging Sexual Identities”. In this conversation, Katy chats with Mark and Julia about all the new terminology being used by youth today to discuss their sexual and gender identities, the dangers of conversion therapy versus a more “values based” approach, as well as how the church can serve and love the LGBTQ community better.

This episode will be particularly helpful for parents of school aged children and teenagers, as well as those working in youth and young adult ministry. Make sure you grab a copy of “Emerging Sexual Identities” for yourself by clicking here.

Make sure you follow Julia at @drsadusky and Mark @dryarhouse on Instagram

Additional Resources:

Revoice

Eden Invitation

Building Catholic Futures

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Today on the podcast, we’re sharing a conversation with Missouri Baptist University Professor of Biblical Studies & Director of Christian Studies, Dr. Matt Easter about how the resurrection changes everything. Katy and Dr. Easter dive deep into the significance of the resurrection for those navigating despair, sickness, and aging, and also why it matters that women were the first to see the empty tomb and what that means for us today.

Make sure you listen to our bonus episode available on Substack where Dr. Easter dives deeper into women at the empty tomb and the stories of female martyrs throughout church history.

Check out Dr. Easter’s work at Missouri Baptist University by clicking here.

Read Dr. Easter’s Time Magazine Article, “Why is Easter Always on a Sunday?” here.

Read Women Who Do: Female Disciples in the Gospels by Holly J. Cary

Read The Resurrection of the Song of God by N.T Wright

Read Surprised by Hope by N.T Wright

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Today on the podcast, we’re sharing a conversation with author and ministry leader Stephanie Watson about her new book, “Ruth’s Need for a Redeemer: A Bible Study on Loss, Loyalty, and Unexpected Love.” Katy and Stephanie explore the themes present in the book of Ruth, such as covenant, loyalty and provision, as well as the tension between academia and practical application type Biblical study.

If you’re in need of a new personal Bible Study or one for your small group, make sure you click here to order “Ruth’s Need for a Redeemer.”

Follow Stephanie’s publishing company Invite Press and check out all their wonderful Christian books and authors.

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Today on the podcast we are sharing a powerful conversation Katy recently had with iconographer Kelly Latimore. Kelly and Katy discuss why icons and symbols have been traditionally rejected in Evangelical spaces, telling stories through creativity and how art can often be a form of activism and lift the voices of women and other minorities.

In our bonus Substack episode, Kelly and Katy discuss the ways he attempts to uplift marginalized communities as a white male without appropriating them. We’ll also share some specific pieces of art from the main episode that Kelly references if you’d like to check those out.

Support Kelly’s work by checking out his website www.kellylatimoreicons.com and following him on Instagram @kellylatimoreicons

Other iconographers Kelly recommends following:

@artofmarza

@the_modern_saints_by_gracie

@andhersaints

@Psalmprayers

@Markdoox

Two other influential iconographers:

Fr. William Hart McNichols

Br. Robert Lentz

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Today on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation with positive parenting educator and family life coach, Wendy Snyder. Wendy is the founder of Fresh Start Family and has an upcoming book coming out in May called “Fresh Start Your Family: Powerful Parenting to Restore Peace in Your Home” which is available for pre-order now. Wendy and Katy chat about all things parenting, the risks of authoritarian parenting techniques, uncovering fundamentalism in Evangelical spaces, how to navigate technology with your kids, and so much more.

Subscribe to our Substack to hear our bonus episode with Wendy where she debunks myths about gentle parenting.

Make sure you check out Fresh Start Family and all Wendy’s amazing resources and make sure you follow Wendy on Instagram @freshstartwendy

Pre-order “Fresh Start Your Family” by clicking here for just $22

Please check out other resources Wendy mentioned:

Jesus, the Gentle Parent by L.R Knost

The Myth of Good Christian Parenting by Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis

Woven: Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn't Have to Heal From by Meredith Miller

I've Got Questions: The Spiritual Practice of Having It Out with God by Erin Moon

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Today on the podcast, Katy shares a very important conversation she had with podcaster, author, and theologian Preston Sprinkle about his new book, “From Genesis to Junia: An Honest Look at What the Bible Really Says About Women in Leadership”. Preston and Katy cover a lot of ground including why it took him so long to write on this subject, trad wife culture, Doug Wilson, why context matters as well as the “problem passages” that tend to solidify a complementarian theological view regarding women and how to exegete those passages.

Do us a favor and share this episode with a friend, or maybe even a conservative pastor today. Preston has a unique ability to speak to the conservative Evangelical world on this topic and we really believe this book could be a catalyst for change in the church.

Make sure you check out our Substack and become a paid subscriber for just $8 a month to hear our bonus Second Service episode where Preston and Katy explore what both egalitarians and complementarians sometimes get wrong when approaching this topic.

You can view all of Preston’s work on www.theologyintheraw.com

Purchase a copy (or two) of “From Genesis to Junia” by clicking here

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Today on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation with Jessica LM Jenkins about the book of Esther, Purim, and rethinking the Biblical story in light of the Epstein files and the sexual exploitation of women and girls. Before listening, please know that topics surrounding human trafficking and sexual abuse are discussed in this episode, so please listen with care.

If you or someone you know if suffering from sexual violence of any kind, please contact 1-800-656-4673 to speak to someone today.

Make sure you’re a paid subscriber on Substack to hear our bonus Second Service conversation with Jessica.

“Women of the Bible in Context” episodes that relate to our topic today: 

Naomi & Ruth: When Everything Falls Apart (Ruth 1:1-15)

Epstein and the Church's response to the Sexual Abuse Crisis

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Today on the podcast, Katy shares a special bonus conversation with co-founder and owner of Ninni Co. pacifiers, Joy Williams. Katy and joy discuss all things related to starting a business and the joys and challenges of being an entrepreneur, as well as how Joy’s faith has both been strengthened and challenged during this journey. You’ll also hear some special, and very exciting news about Ninni Co. toward the end of the episode, so make sure you stay on till the end.

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Make sure you check out our bonus Second Service episode on Substack where Joy shares things she had to “un-learn” about God to move forward as a mom and business owner.

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This week on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation she had with Grammy Award winning singer and songwriter, Lloyd Nicks, who wrote the popular worship song, “That’s My King”, made popular by CeCe Winans. Katy and Lloyd chat about all things worship leading, song writing, Gospel music, the Black church, and his new song “Heal For You”.

You can stream “Heal For You” anywhere you listen to music and make sure you let Lloyd know how much you love the song by sharing it with friends and family on your social media accounts.

Click here to listen to “Heal For You”

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This week on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation she had with Kristen Miele, founder of Sex Ed Reclaimed. Sex Ed Relcaimed is a biblically grounded sex education curriculum helping Christian parents confidently teach sexuality to their kids — at every age, from 3 years old to 18 years old. Kristen has incredible courses available to purchase on her website, and you can use the code IMREADY for 20% off your purchase.

Kristen and Katy talk about all things sexual education, purity culture, the gaps in public, private and homeschooling and Kristen shares some tangible tips for parents navigating what somewhat feels awkward and uncomfortable.

Check out all of Kristen’s resources on her website www.sexedreclaimed.com and make sure you grab your course today. Tell a friend about her work and follow Kristen on Instagram @sexedreclaimed

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This week on the podcast, Katy shares a powerful conversation with Pastor Kimberly MacNeill about why women are leaving the church and attending less than ever before. They discuss hyper masculinity in our Sunday services, sexual abuse scandals, and the lack of a female presence in church leadership as what may be contributing to this phenomenon, as well as provide advice for ministry leaders who seek to elevate the voices of women.

Make sure you check out our bonus Substack episode for paid subscribers where Katy and Kim “re-imagine” what the church might look like if they looked to Jesus’s example of leadership, rather than power and authority.

Books and Resources:

The Blue Parakeet: Rethinking How You Read the Bible by Scot McKnight

A Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing by Scot McNight and Laura Barringer

Jesus and Women: In the First Century and Now by Kristi McLelland

The Junia Project

Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships by Rob Dixon

Here is the article Kimberly referenced regarding most worship songs being written by men

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This week on the podcast we are sharing a conversation with Old Testament scholar, professor and author Sandy Richter. Sandy and Katy discuss women’s roles in the Old Testament, lesser known female characters, and what the church gets wrong when using the Old Testament (or Bible as a whole) as a way to prohibit women’s roles in church leadership.

Make sure you check out our bonus Substack “Second Service” where Sandy covers the forward movement of scripture and normative vs. situational passages.

You can find all of Sandy’s work on her website.

Purchase Abigail and the Waterfall here and make sure you head to our Instagram to win a free copy.

You can read Sandy’s work with Seedbed on Women in Leadership by clicking here.

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This week on the podcast we’re sharing a powerful conversation with Tennessee Gubernatorial candidate Lauren Pinkston about what makes her campaign as an Independent different. We chat about her faith in Jesus and how that informs her politics and how we can reach across the aisle to care for those who believe differently than us.

Whether you live in Tennessee or not, this is a campaign and a movement that we all can support and get behind. If you find yourself disillusioned with politics and the two party system in America, support a candidate like Lauren so more people like her put their hat in the ring and decide to run for office.

If you’re not already, subscribe to our paid Substack community for just $8 a month and listen to our bonus Second Service episode with Lauren where I ask her some pointed questions about the rise of Christian Nationalism.

You can donate to Lauren’s campaign and learn more about her by clicking here.

Check out Lauren’s podcast about bi-racial adoption by clicking here.

You can read Lauren’s Substack article Would You Rather Be American or Christian? here.

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This week on the podcast, we are sharing a conversation Katy had with her friend Jocelynn Brewer about the importance of having theologically rich Bible study material and curriculum for children and women and why there seems to be a gap for both of these demographics. They discuss how to handle tough questions from your kids as well as passenger princess theology, and whether or not women even desire deeper theological study.

Check out 10 Dumb Things Smart Christians Believe by Larry Osborne by clicking here

Purchase Rebecca McLaughlin’s book 10 Questions Every Teen Should Ask (and Answer) about Christianity

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This week we are taking a break from our normal podcast schedule and having a conversation with Elizabeth Berget and Laura Kelly Fanucci about what’s happening on the ground in Minnesota (specifically Minneapolis) and all that’s taken place due to the ICE presence there. We chat about who’s been impacted the most, including women, children and churches as well as the Christian response, regardless of what side of the aisle you find yourself. We also talk through what it looks like to care about secure borders but also be against the way immigration enforcement is being carried out.

Make sure you check out our bonus episode on Substack for paid subscribers by clicking here.

If you want to get involved, check out the resources below:

Neighbor Notes on Substack

Welcome the Stranger by Matthew Soerens

Women of Welcome

Follow Sharon McMahon on Instagram

Listen to The Holy Post Podcast

Make sure you follow Elizabeth @elizabeth_a_berget and Laura @thismessygrace

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This week on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation she had with author and activist, Shane Claiborne. Shane provides insight Jesus shaped peacemaking, gun violence and the Christian response, or lack there of, when it comes to common sense gun reform. Katy and Shane also discuss what conservative women can do specifically to move the needle forward in their communities.

This episode primarily highlights Shane’s book, “Beating Guns” which you can purchase here.

Don’t forget to head to our Substack and listen to our Second Service episode where Katy asks Shane about the Evangelical refusal to speak up about gun violence and if he remains positive about the future.

Check out Shane’s organization Red Letter Christians to learn about all the ways you can support his work there.

And if you’d like to learn more about how Shane turns guns into garden tools, check out Raw Tools and all the phenomenal work they do.

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This week on the podcast Katy sits down for a conversation with Wendy Schulz, founder of Life on Pilgrimage. Wendy shares about the modern pilgrimages she leads women on across Italy, Ireland and France and how pilgrimage can be an invitation to slow down and be present.

You’ll also learn details about how exactly to participate in a pilgrimage and why traveling with Life on Pilgrimage is different than simply planning your own journey.

Check out Life on Pilgrimage by clicking here and make sure you follow Wendy at @lifeonpilgrimage

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This week on the podcast Katy sits down with pastor and professor Matthew D. Kim to have a conversation about his new book, “What’s God Really Saying Here?” which covers the bizarre, weird, and troubling passages in scripture. Matthew covers the difference between expository preaching and topical preaching, and why preachers should let the text interpret the text, as well as why we shouldn’t fear difficult passages in scripture. We also chat about the passages that didn’t make it into the book and Matthew shares a story of the fruit that came from teaching on a difficult topic in his own congregation.

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This week on the podcast Katy shares a powerful conversation with New York Times Best Selling Author Beth Allison Barr about her new book Becoming the Pastor’s Wife. Beth defines both patriarchy and complementarian theology, as well as provides an explanation as to why the roles of women have become limited in certain religious spaces. Beth also provides advice for women that find themselves in a church context that doesn’t affirm women in leadership roles.

Make sure you check out our continued conversation with Beth on our Second Service bonus episode available on Substack.

Purchase The Making of Biblical Womanhood by clicking here.

Purchase Becoming the Pastor’s Wife by clicking here.

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This week on the podcast Katy discusses what Protestants can learn from Catholics with Mary Varni. Mary works for the Archdiocese of St. Louis in their Respect Life office and is wealth of knowledge on Catholic social teaching and doctrine. Mary debunks a common misconception about whether or not Catholics pray “to” Saints and also what determines whether or not someone is truly pro-life or not.

Learn more about the Respect Life Apostolate in St. Louis by clicking here.

Read the Gospel of Life by here.

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This week we chatted with Jessica LM Jenkins about how reimagining a more historically accurate nativity can impact both how we elevate the voices of women as well as our faith and theology.

Make sure you check our bonus Second Service episode on Substack where we discuss the nativity as an act of resistance and also how Mary’s story can give women hope today.

Below we’ve included Jessica’s links so make sure you follow her and grab some of her nativity paper dolls for Christmas.

Shop and Paper Dolls

Historically Accurate Nativity Explanation

Podcast Episodes:

#13 Historically Accurate Nativity Part 1

#14 Historically Accurate Nativity Part 2

#31 Presence Over Power: The Nativity as God's Answer to Trauma

Visit Jessica’s website: www.wewhothirst.com

Follow @jessicalmjenkins (Instagram, Threads, Facebook)

Listen to Women of the Bible in Context: Her God, Her Story, Her Voice

Today we’ve got a special bonus LIVE recording to share with you from our quarterly in-person event “Magnify the Lord” where Pastor Angela Beise of The Crossing Grant’s Trail takes us on a deep dive into the Magnificat (otherwise known as Mary’s song).

We hope this message encourages you and that you find hope in Mary’s story.

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