This week we are taking a break from our normal podcast schedule and having a conversation with Elizabeth Berget and Laura Kelly Fanucci about what’s happening on the ground in Minnesota (specifically Minneapolis) and all that’s taken place due to the ICE presence there. We chat about who’s been impacted the most, including women, children and churches as well as the Christian response, regardless of what side of the aisle you find yourself. We also talk through what it looks like to care about secure borders but also be against the way immigration enforcement is being carried out.

Make sure you check out our bonus episode on Substack for paid subscribers by clicking here.

If you want to get involved, check out the resources below:

Neighbor Notes on Substack

Welcome the Stranger by Matthew Soerens

Women of Welcome

Follow Sharon McMahon on Instagram

Listen to The Holy Post Podcast

Make sure you follow Elizabeth @elizabeth_a_berget and Laura @thismessygrace

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This week on the podcast, Katy shares a conversation she had with author and activist, Shane Claiborne. Shane provides insight Jesus shaped peacemaking, gun violence and the Christian response, or lack there of, when it comes to common sense gun reform. Katy and Shane also discuss what conservative women can do specifically to move the needle forward in their communities.

This episode primarily highlights Shane’s book, “Beating Guns” which you can purchase here.

Don’t forget to head to our Substack and listen to our Second Service episode where Katy asks Shane about the Evangelical refusal to speak up about gun violence and if he remains positive about the future.

Check out Shane’s organization Red Letter Christians to learn about all the ways you can support his work there.

And if you’d like to learn more about how Shane turns guns into garden tools, check out Raw Tools and all the phenomenal work they do.

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This week on the podcast we’ve got a special Giving Tuesday edition featuring Mikaela Garth, Executive Director and Founder of Powerful Purpose, an organization designed to help kids thrive, not just survive.

Katy and Mikaela discuss what exactly her organization does and specific stories of children who’ve been impacted by Powerful Purpose. Mikaela also gives tips on what it might look like to live a more generous life in 2026 and how her faith impacts how operates in the world.

Make a monetary donation and learn more about Powerful Purpose on their website www.powerfulpurpose.org and make sure you follow them on Instagram @power.fulpurpose

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On this bonus “Black Friday” episode of the podcast, we are talking to Cory Ball and Danny Lybarger about inerrancy and infallibility and how the way we interpret scripture impacts the way we do church. Cory is a theologically conservative pastor and Danny is a theologically progressive pastor. While they both disagree on a variety of topics, Cory and Danny are wonderful examples of how we can extend grace to those on the other side of the aisle. We discuss ways Christian’s from vastly different faith traditions can participate in ecumenical work and work together to make a positive impact.

In a polarized world where everything feels high stakes and politicized, we hope this episode helps you turn down the temperature. And while you may not agree with someone, we hope you’re able to understand how or why they might hold the convictions they do.

Follow Danny on Instagram @danny_Lybarger and visit his church The Well in St. Charles, Missouri.

Follow Cory on Instagram @coryball and visit his church Redemption Church in Kirkwood (St. Louis), Missouri.

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This week on the podcast Katy shares a conversation she had with worship leader, writer and activist Hannah Herum to talk about Christian ethics and why they’re important for us today.

What are ethics? Why do American Christians seem mainly concerned with issues like abortion and traditional marriage values but turn a blind eye to issues like gun violence, war, racism, or climate change?

Hannah recommended a variety of resources that we will link below, but also encourages listeners to lean into the book of Deuteronomy, the minor prophets and the Sermon on the Mount.

The Locust Effect

Any books written by Dietrich Bonhoeffer or Shane Claiborne

Make sure you check out our bonus “Second Service” episode on Substack where Katy and Hannah discuss the ethical concerns of using AI.

This week on the podcast Katy talks with Marissa Franks Burt and Kelsey Kramer McGinnis about their new book, “The Myth of Good Christian Parenting,” and how the parenting techniques of past betrayed an entire generation of families. Below you’ll find some helpful links and more information about Marissa and Kelsey.

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Marissa Franks Burt (MA in Theological Studies, Columbia International University) is a novelist, editor, teacher, and cohost of the At Home with the Lectionary and In the Church Library podcasts. She lives in a small town in Washington's Snoqualmie Valley with her husband, six children, and heaps of books.

Kelsey Kramer McGinnis (PhD, University of Iowa) is a musicologist, educator, and correspondent for Christianity Today, writing on worship practices and Christian subculture. She is an adjunct professor at Grand View University in Des Moines and previously worked at the University of Iowa Center for Human Rights.

You can purchase the book on Amazon or anywhere you buy books, as well as Audible or audiobook.

Connect with Marissa and Kelsey below:

Instagram: @mburtwrites | @kelseykmcginnis

Threads: @mburtwrites | @kelseykmcginnis

Facebook: @mburtwrites | @kelsey.kramermcginnis

Bluesky: @mburtwrites | @kkramermcginnis

TikTok: @mburtwrites | @kelseykmcg

Substack: @mburtwrites | @kelseykramermcginnis

YouTube: @mburtwrites

And check out their limited series podcast called “In the Church Library”

This week Katy invites her best friend Rachael to sit down for retelling of their very own friendship break up and reconciliation process. They talk about what happened and what things contributed to the break down of their relationship as well as what it took to rebuild trust and commitment for the long haul.

In this episode Katy and Rachael discuss the COVID-19 pandemic, politics, mask mandates and vaccines as some of what originally caused tension in their relationship. Neither Katy nor Rachael are presenting their stances on these topics as a means to convince you of right or wrong but to simply show that it is possible to be friends with someone who sees the world differently than you do.

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This week on the podcast Katy talks with Adina O’Neal about how to live on mission in your community. They talk through tangible ways to interact with those who live in proximity to you, the problems with small groups and where the modern evangelical church gets it wrong, in addition to the way Jesus lived among the lost and brought hope to people who desperately needed it.

Adina recommends two different books for listeners to read on the topic of missional living:

Brave Cities by Taylor McCall and Hugh Halter

The Irresistible Revolution by Shane Claiborne

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This week on the podcast Katy sits down with fellow worship leaders Anitra McKenny and Cassaundra Eden to talk about the value of corporate worship, why singing together with the body of Christ matters and what female worship leaders bring to the table specifically. Whether you’re a worship leader, a worship enthusiast or even someone who is skeptical of the musical portion of our Sunday gatherings - this episode is for you.

Below you’ll find several books and resources that were listed in the podcast:

Bob Hartley - Adoration Prayer Book

Robert S. McGee - The Search for Significance

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This week on the podcast, Katy sits down for an interview with Jennifer Powell McNutt, author of the book “The Mary We Forgot” to discuss all things Mary Magdalene. Who was she? Who wasn’t she? What can we learn about faith from her example?

This is a conversation you will not want to miss out on. Make sure you share it with a friend, and please rate, review and subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts.

Follow Jennifer on Instagram @jpowellmcnutt and you can keep up with her on her website https://jenniferpowellmcnutt.com

Check out the ministry she and her husband David started together https://www.mcnuttshellministries.com

Buy “The Mary We Forgot” by clicking here.

This week Katy interviewed artist and author, Kellie Bick about her journey through discovering her love for art, imposter syndrome, postpartum and motherhood. They discuss the intersection of faith and creating, as well as why it’s important for women to explore their creativity.

Kellie also created a beautiful watercolor painting to kick off Mary Magdalene week that you can view on Instagram.

Make sure you follow Kellie on Instagram @created.by.kellie

And if you’re more interested in learning about Hutchmoot, you can click here.

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This week Katy and Jocelynn discuss all things denominations and do a brief overview of church history. They also talk through a recent experience they had after being invited to participate in an interdenominational cohort called Oikos in St. Louis, Missouri.

You can learn more about the Oikos group by clicking the link below:

https://www.oikosgroup.org

Katy referenced two different books in this episode, the first being “Strange Religion” by Nijay Gupta and the second being “What’s a Christian Anyway?” by Glenn Packiam. Both are available to purchase on Amazon.

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This week on the podcast Katy sits down for a conversation with Wendy Schulz, founder of Life on Pilgrimage. Wendy shares about the modern pilgrimages she leads women on across Italy, Ireland and France and how pilgrimage can be an invitation to slow down and be present.

You’ll also learn details about how exactly to participate in a pilgrimage and why traveling with Life on Pilgrimage is different than simply planning your own journey.

Check out Life on Pilgrimage by clicking here and make sure you follow Wendy at @lifeonpilgrimage

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On the podcast this week, Katy talks with song writer, producer, musician and worship leader Russ Mohr about the intersection of music, creativity and faith.

You can find Russ on social media @russmohrmusic and find more information about upcoming shows and concert tickets at www.russmohrmusic.com

Russ recommended a book called “The Art of Creativity” by Rick Ruben for anyone needing inspiration when it comes to creating art or music.

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This week Katy and Jocelynn sit down with Fuller Seminary professor Dr. Karen Murphy to talk about women in church history and theology. This is a rich conversation full of surprises, lesser known female church leaders, and inspiration for the next generation.

Katy mentions a podcast titled All the Buried Women by Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke that you can find anywhere you listen to podcasts.

Dr. Murphy provided us with lots of resources which are listed below:

Her Story by Barbara MacHaffie

Women, Men and the Bible by Virginia Mollenkott

Daughters of the Church by Ruth Tucker and Walter Liefeld

Liberating Tradition by Kristina LaCelle-Peterson

A Women’s History of the Christian Church: Two Thousand Years of Female Leadership by Elizabeth Gillan Muir

Women in the Mission of the Church by Leanne M. Dzubinski and Anneke H. Stasson

What Paul Really Said About Women by John Temple Bristol

Ordination of Women by Paul K. Jewett

Man & Woman, One in Christ by Philip B. Payne

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On this episode, Jocelynn and Katy are defining “terms” and giving you definitions for all those complicated theological words you may hear and have no idea what they mean. Put on your thinking cap, cause we are taking you to school.

Also, Katy mentioned abandoning her favorite Bible translation, the ESV. Click here to read more.

Is there a term or topic you’d like us to dive into? Send us an email at thetheologygirls@gmail.com and we will make sure to include it in a future episode.

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This week on the podcast Katy sits down with Pastor Tim Holley from The Journey West County in St. Louis to discuss the topic of church hurt. What do you do when you’ve been hurt by the church? Is there space for people who are actively deconstructing or grappling with theological questions in our church bodies? Is the church still relevant today and doesn’t have a purpose for believers? And where do women fit into the body of Christ and how can we prevent more women from leaving the church?

Katy also shares some insight on what it’s like at times to be a female working and serving in the local church.

The three books Tim references in this conversation will be linked below:

When the Church Was a Family by Joseph H. Hellerman

Relational Spirituality by Todd Hall

The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell

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Welcome to the Theology Girls Podcast. On this episode, Katy and Jocelynn discuss what led them to start the Theology Girls. They share about their personal lives, faith journeys, and also answer questions about what listeners can expect from the podcast.

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Welcome to the Theology Girls Podcast. Each week, our goal is to cultivate a space for thoughtful conversations about what shapes our faith in real time - politics, theology, culture, and more.

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This week on the podcast Katy sits down with pastor and professor Matthew D. Kim to have a conversation about his new book, “What’s God Really Saying Here?” which covers the bizarre, weird, and troubling passages in scripture. Matthew covers the difference between expository preaching and topical preaching, and why preachers should let the text interpret the text, as well as why we shouldn’t fear difficult passages in scripture. We also chat about the passages that didn’t make it into the book and Matthew shares a story of the fruit that came from teaching on a difficult topic in his own congregation.

Purchase “What’s God Really Saying Here?”

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This week on the podcast Katy shares a powerful conversation with New York Times Best Selling Author Beth Allison Barr about her new book Becoming the Pastor’s Wife. Beth defines both patriarchy and complementarian theology, as well as provides an explanation as to why the roles of women have become limited in certain religious spaces. Beth also provides advice for women that find themselves in a church context that doesn’t affirm women in leadership roles.

Make sure you check out our continued conversation with Beth on our Second Service bonus episode available on Substack.

Purchase The Making of Biblical Womanhood by clicking here.

Purchase Becoming the Pastor’s Wife by clicking here.

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This week on the podcast Katy discusses what Protestants can learn from Catholics with Mary Varni. Mary works for the Archdiocese of St. Louis in their Respect Life office and is wealth of knowledge on Catholic social teaching and doctrine. Mary debunks a common misconception about whether or not Catholics pray “to” Saints and also what determines whether or not someone is truly pro-life or not.

Learn more about the Respect Life Apostolate in St. Louis by clicking here.

Read the Gospel of Life by here.

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This week we chatted with Jessica LM Jenkins about how reimagining a more historically accurate nativity can impact both how we elevate the voices of women as well as our faith and theology.

Make sure you check our bonus Second Service episode on Substack where we discuss the nativity as an act of resistance and also how Mary’s story can give women hope today.

Below we’ve included Jessica’s links so make sure you follow her and grab some of her nativity paper dolls for Christmas.

Shop and Paper Dolls

Historically Accurate Nativity Explanation

Podcast Episodes:

#13 Historically Accurate Nativity Part 1

#14 Historically Accurate Nativity Part 2

#31 Presence Over Power: The Nativity as God's Answer to Trauma

Visit Jessica’s website: www.wewhothirst.com

Follow @jessicalmjenkins (Instagram, Threads, Facebook)

Listen to Women of the Bible in Context: Her God, Her Story, Her Voice

Today we’ve got a special bonus LIVE recording to share with you from our quarterly in-person event “Magnify the Lord” where Pastor Angela Beise of The Crossing Grant’s Trail takes us on a deep dive into the Magnificat (otherwise known as Mary’s song).

We hope this message encourages you and that you find hope in Mary’s story.

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To visit The Crossing or find a campus near you, click the link here.

This week on the podcast Katy chats with Stephanie Kramer about her exodus from the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. Stephanie shares about her faith practices inside the IFB, divorce, leaving the church and finding grace on the other side. If you have little ones with you, this might be opposite if you want to save for later, as we discussed pretty culture and sexual assault allegations within the church.

You can learn more about the IFB and its dangerous teachings by checking out any of the resources we’ve listed below:

Let Us Prey Documentary

“The Well Trained Wife” by Tia Levings

“The Myth of Good Christian Parenting” by Kelsey Kramer McGinnis and Marissa Franks Burt

Check out the related documentary “Shiny Happy People” to learn more about the IBLP

And to listen to our bonus “Second Service” episode with Stephanie where we discuss sexual assault within the IFB and hard complementarian churches, head to Substack and join our community for just $8 a month.

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This week on the podcast Katy chats with author Maddie Fischer about her new 60 day devotional Rest + Rely. They dive deep into Maddie’s personal struggle with anxiety and depression, as well as how the church often over spiritualizes mental health struggles but the world often minimizes the power of prayer and community.

Maddie also leads a group called LO Local, which is affiliated with Live Original and Sadie Robertson. You’ll get a chance to hear how she got involved with the organization and how you can plug into a local chapter.

Make sure you follow Maddie on Instagram @maddie_joy and purchase Rest & Rely here or anywhere books are sold.