Explore every episode of the podcast The Trial Lawyers College Podcast

Maren Chaloupka, the current TLC president, and John Sloan, her predecessor, delve into the nuanced TLC approach to advocating for fair compensation in legal settlements and verdicts taught at The Courage to Ask TLC event. They explore the critical process of determining an appropriate sum for clients and discuss the complexities involved in assigning monetary value to invaluable losses. This episode examines the inherent challenges of asking for financial compensation in cases where life is priceless, within our imperfect legal system, emphasizing the need for conviction and strategy in the courtroom.

Matthew Martin, a 2019 TLC graduate, joins Rafe to discuss his reasons for applying to the TLC program and the impactful first trial he undertook after graduation. Matthew shares how he immediately implemented the methods learned at TLC, focusing on two powerful reenactment stories—one during practice and another in trial—that significantly influenced the outcomes. This episode delves into the transformative impact of TLC's teaching methods, illustrating how they can dramatically enhance legal advocacy.

Eric Ganci, TLC staff member since 2018, discusses a unique blend of techniques he uses to enhance focus and grounding. In a memorable cross examination session, Eric had a student reverse roles with a client, immersing them fully in the courtroom scenario. Listen as Eric details his experience with working and practicing skills through TLC methods.

Patricia Anderson provides a comprehensive overview of the Trial Lawyers College's 7-step program, an alternative pathway to graduation. This episode delves into the specifics of the program, outlining the importance and objectives of each step. Patricia explains how these steps are designed to enhance the skills of trial lawyers through personal growth and skill development, ensuring they are well-equipped to advocate with empathy and effectiveness. Tune in to gain insights into this transformative educational journey.

Learn how Ross LeBlanc, a civil plaintiff attorney and four-time regional TLC attendee, used his trial skills to secure justice in a devastating DWI case involving the loss of a six-year-old child after Thanksgiving 2022. This episode delves into how Ross prepared for the trial alongside the grieving parents, employing the powerful techniques and strategies he honed through his TLC training. Tune in to discover the profound impact of empathetic legal practice and the difference it can make in seeking accountability and closure.

Ron and Rafe revisit their enriching experiences at Mo Ranch during the TSF course, where they collaborated on cases and refined their trial skills. In this episode, they delve into the highlights of their time together, emphasizing the fantastic opportunities for growth and learning. They also explore the concept of psychodrama, discussing how it enhances the practice of law by demonstrating the truth, rather than just telling it. Tune in to hear how these seasoned professionals use innovative techniques to elevate their legal expertise.

Join our host, Mark Wagner, as he interviews Rafe Foreman, who shares a moving story from a recent mediation. Rafe recounts how a heartfelt song about grace and forgiveness, sung by his clients, profoundly impacted both him and the opposing counsel. The defendants were so touched that they insisted on joining and listening to the song again, leading to a rare and emotional moment of unity. Tune in to explore the power of empathy and the unexpected ways it can manifest in legal settings.

John Sloan, the Immediate Past President of TLC, reflects on his pivotal decision to step down and pass the leadership baton. In this heartfelt episode, John discusses the complexities of transitioning from a role he has cherished and how he plans to continue thriving in new endeavors rather than retiring. Tune in to hear John's insights on leadership, change, and the future of TLC under new guidance

Join John Sloan, Maren Chaloupka, Laura O'Sullivan, and Ron Estefan for some exciting new announcements regarding the TLC board. Listen to hear the legacy and strategic plan for the future of the Trial Lawyers College.

Mark Wagner, a 2005 TLC graduate and 2015 faculty member from Washington, shares valuable insights on achieving impactful verdicts and the art of being the jury's assistant. In this episode, explore the strategies that lead to significant "not guilty" verdicts and understand how positioning oneself as an ally and guide for the jury can influence the outcome of a trial. Tune in to hear firsthand experiences and practical advice on nurturing trust and credibility in the courtroom.

Come and listen to Cambry Bristow detail the fantastic work accomplished at the F-Warrior's retreat in Nebraska City, Nebraska. She also foreshadows a coming proposal that will be published in the Warrior magazine detailing the future plans for the Trial Lawyer's College. After listening to Cambry tell about the excellent retreat, you might find yourself regretting that you missed it.

TLC faculty member since 2016, Thomas Davenport, discusses the importance of communication exercises and tactics that explore the range of human perspectives that impact everything from the classroom and the courtroom. Thomas takes us on an exploratory journey about standing up for others even when it’s tough, developing hobbies that reduce stress, and sharing client’s experiences with authenticity.

Come and listen to Robin and Dusty tell the story of a man who suffered racial discrimination and hear their strategies and exploits of trying a case in Federal Court that is so rural that the judge doesn't even hold motion hearings in the town where the Federal courthouse is located. See how they overcame their fear of trying a case in a rural, conservative area and gained insights from their experience.

Come and hear how Mart Harris and Patrick McLain overturned a federal judges ruling granting JNOV at the 5th circuit court of appeals.

In a remarkable streak of victories, Mark Hartman, a 2019 TLC graduate, secured eight consecutive not guilty verdicts, illustrating the power of connection over persuasion in the courtroom. Listen as Mark details the power of connecting as the messenger instead of forcing jurors to abandon their most deeply held beliefs in the 15 minutes he has with them.

Jeff Watson, Director of Post Master's Doctor of Nursing Practice program at Texas Tech University's Health Science College, discusses his experience in training nurses on being present for patients including providing a good death experience. Jeff explains how the often called "soft skills" are more accurately called essential skills like compassion and empathy. "We're all just walking each other home".

Join Eli Heller, a recent TLC graduate from 2023, as he details his journey from heartbreaking loss to a recent trial victory after deepening his understanding of openness in the courtroom. Eli describes how he created genuine connections broke down barriers between him, his client, and the jurors.

Patricia Anderson, a 7 stepper graduate of TLC, details her experiences with avoiding burnout by having fun, unplugging, and keeping things simple in her off time. Patricia shares personal strategies for taking care of oneself, having fun, and avoiding burnout—all while staying authentic. From cultivating hobbies to talking to tomato plants and chicken eggs, she discusses how these practices help sustain her energy and enthusiasm. Tune in to discover how creating a nurturing home base and embracing simple pleasures can lead to a more fulfilled and resilient professional life.

Mike Watson, first joining TLC in 2019, discusses the critical importance of building deep connections with clients in legal practice. In this episode, he emphasizes the necessity of comprehensive communication—knowing the worst and best scenarios—ensuring there are no surprises in court. Mike shares insights on the meticulous process of discovering a client's story and finding the key elements that resonate with the jury, reinforcing the idea that understanding and transparency are vital for successful advocacy.

Join Mike Smith, a 2019 TLC Graduate and recent addition to the faculty in 2023, as he unpacks the lessons from a recent workshop on a medical malpractice case. In this episode, Mike emphasizes the critical importance of forging connections—not just between attorneys and their clients but also between the jury and the client's story. He shares a poignant story about his client whose connection to current events was severed due to a medical issue, highlighting the human aspects that often sway courtroom outcomes. Tune in to learn how empathy and understanding are key in legal advocacy.

Carlos Concepcion, a law professor in Puerto Rico, dives deep into an innovative exercise for mastering closing arguments. He discusses a compelling piece of video evidence showing an encounter between a man and a woman, which is rich with facts supporting arguments from both sides. The exercise involves pausing the video to identify which facts bolster the closing argument, offering a dynamic and interactive learning experience. Join Carlos as he explores the nuances of argumentative structure and evidence analysis in legal training.

Join Ron Estefan, a dedicated TLC graduate and faculty member since 2005, as he shares valuable insights from the latest TLC events. Ron discusses the recent gatherings in Houston, and the challenges and experiences from the latest event in Las Vegas, New Mexico, including unexpected weather issues. He emphasizes the significance of TLC's home base and the vibrant working group in Houston, highlighting how these elements contribute to the growth and effectiveness of the TLC community. Dive into the details as Ron connects the dots between community, location, and legal education.

In this revealing episode, Tim Semmerling, a participant at the 2010 Defense of the Damned event, discusses his latest book, 'My Enemy, My Defender.' Tim shares his extraordinary experiences at the 9/11 War Court, where he defended clients under the most challenging conditions, exploring themes of morality, betrayal, and the human side of legal battles. Join us as Tim reflects on the personal and professional journeys that shape the lives of those who operate at the front lines of high-stakes law.

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Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professional; you’re a valued member of a supportive and empowering network. Here, every course and every conversation is an opportunity to strengthen ties, share wisdom, and grow together in our mission to champion justice with unwavering passion and integrity.

Don’t miss your chance to be part of something bigger than yourself. Explore our course list today and discover how you can contribute to and benefit from the collective knowledge and camaraderie of our unique community. Join us and see how together, we can achieve more than we ever thought possible.

John Sloan, President of the Trial Lawyers College, recounts his recent victory in a Taos County trial in New Mexico, where he secured a $15 million verdict. In this episode, John shares the compelling narrative he presented to the jury that led to this significant win.

Register for a TLC event!

 https://triallawyerscollege.org/trial-skills-courses#cle-credits-section

Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professional; you’re a valued member of a supportive and empowering network. Here, every course and every conversation is an opportunity to strengthen ties, share wisdom, and grow together in our mission to champion justice with unwavering passion and integrity.

Don’t miss your chance to be part of something bigger than yourself. Explore our course list today and discover how you can contribute to and benefit from the collective knowledge and camaraderie of our unique community. Join us and see how together, we can achieve more than we ever thought possible.

Mike Smith, Mike Watson, and Minerva Steele join us to celebrate and share their recent $5.25 million verdict. They honed their strategy for this case at a recent Trial Lawyers College event in Tulsa, where they collaboratively workshopped the details and refined their approach.

Register for a TLC event!  https://triallawyerscollege.org/trial-skills-courses#cle-credits-section

Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professional; you’re a valued member of a supportive and empowering network. Here, every course and every conversation is an opportunity to strengthen ties, share wisdom, and grow together in our mission to champion justice with unwavering passion and integrity.

Don’t miss your chance to be part of something bigger than yourself. Explore our course list today and discover how you can contribute to and benefit from the collective knowledge and camaraderie of our unique community. Join us and see how together, we can achieve more than we ever thought possible.

Lydia Hanson, fresh from her inaugural experience at a Trial Lawyers College event, shares how the encounter profoundly transformed both her legal practice and personal life. Lydia delves into the unique aspects of the event, from sharing a room with a fellow attendee to engaging deeply in psychodrama techniques, and participating in intensive, topic-focused sessions. Join us as she explores the significant impact these experiences had on her approach to law and her understanding of herself.

Register for a TLC event!

https://triallawyerscollege.org/trial-skills-courses#cle-credits-section

Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professional; you’re a valued member of a supportive and empowering network. Here, every course and every conversation is an opportunity to strengthen ties, share wisdom, and grow together in our mission to champion justice with unwavering passion and integrity.

Don’t miss your chance to be part of something bigger than yourself. Explore our course list today and discover how you can contribute to and benefit from the collective knowledge and camaraderie of our unique community. Join us and see how together, we can achieve more than we ever thought possible.

In this enlightening episode, we welcome Austin Kaplan, a dedicated employment and civil rights attorney based in Austin, TX, and a long-time listener, first-time caller to our podcast. Austin discusses his work spanning breach of contract, overtime violations, and civil rights cases. He shares his journey of learning and gathering insights from the TLC community, emphasizing how the wisdom from the tribe enhances his practice and advocacy. Tune in to hear how Austin integrates the rich knowledge from the TLC podcast into his daily legal battles to better serve his clients and uphold justice.

Register for a TLC event! https://triallawyerscollege.org/trial-skills-courses#cle-credits-section

Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professional; you’re a valued member of a supportive and empowering network. Here, every course and every conversation is an opportunity to strengthen ties, share wisdom, and grow together in our mission to champion justice with unwavering passion and integrity.

Don’t miss your chance to be part of something bigger than yourself. Explore our course list today and discover how you can contribute to and benefit from the collective knowledge and camaraderie of our unique community. Join us and see how together, we can achieve more than we ever thought possible.

Join us as Hilary Hammell, a dedicated plaintiff-side employment lawyer and two-time attendee of the Trial Skills Foundation, shares her compelling journey into employment law. Starting with her early experiences working alongside laborers in Yakima, Washington, Hilary delves into the profound impact of advocating for workers' rights. She explores how helping laborers speak out against unfair employers and poor work conditions has not only changed their lives but also restored their dignity. Tune in to discover how Hilary's commitment to justice and human connection drives her legal practice.

Register for a TLC event!

https://triallawyerscollege.org/trial-skills-courses#cle-credits-section

Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professional; you’re a valued member of a supportive and empowering network. Here, every course and every conversation is an opportunity to strengthen ties, share wisdom, and grow together in our mission to champion justice with unwavering passion and integrity.

Don’t miss your chance to be part of something bigger than yourself. Explore our course list today and discover how you can contribute to and benefit from the collective knowledge and camaraderie of our unique community. Join us and see how together, we can achieve more than we ever thought possible.

Michael Bristow recounts his recent journey at a Trial Lawyers College event in Tulsa, OK, illuminating the profound impact of storytelling through music and sound. He reflects on the emotional resonance and universal connection these elements foster, underscoring their ability to unite us all.

Register for a TLC event!

https://triallawyerscollege.org/trial-skills-courses#cle-credits-section

Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professional; you’re a valued member of a supportive and empowering network. Here, every course and every conversation is an opportunity to strengthen ties, share wisdom, and grow together in our mission to champion justice with unwavering passion and integrity.

Don’t miss your chance to be part of something bigger than yourself. Explore our course list today and discover how you can contribute to and benefit from the collective knowledge and camaraderie of our unique community. Join us and see how together, we can achieve more than we ever thought possible.

Dustin Collier, a recent participant in a Trial Skills event, shares insights from his inaugural experience at the Trial Lawyers College, contrasting it with previous Continuing Legal Education (CLE) events he’s attended. He delves into the distinctive focus on connection, storytelling, and the emphasis on humanity that sets TLC’s events and courses apart, highlighting how these elements uniquely shape the learning experience.

Register for a TLC event!

https://triallawyerscollege.org/trial-skills-courses#cle-credits-section

Dive into a tribe where trust isn’t just a word—it’s our foundation. In our community, you’re more than a legal professional; you’re a valued member of a supportive and empowering network. Here, every course and every conversation is an opportunity to strengthen ties, share wisdom, and grow together in our mission to champion justice with unwavering passion and integrity.

Don’t miss your chance to be part of something bigger than yourself. Explore our course list today and discover how you can contribute to and benefit from the collective knowledge and camaraderie of our unique community. Join us and see how together, we can achieve more than we ever thought possible.

Brian McCallister returns to go over some of the methods he used for a recent trial victory. Brian describes, in vivid detail, his voir dire tactics as well as a video he recorded to share his client’s daily routine with jury members.

Recent TLC attendee, Kyra Blankenship, describes her experience at the most recent Trial Lawyers College event Trial Skills Foundation in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Kyra details what it’s like to participate in psychodrama for the first time and how big of a role discovering the story is to represent someone and tell their story.

Recent TLC graduate from the 2022, Savannah Rand, details a recent trial experience and how TLC methods helped open up the case before the trial and inside the courtroom. Savannah explains how effective and familiar vocabulary helped connect the jurors to the case and ultimately shaped their verdict.

Brian McCallister, TLC graduate from the class of 1995, details his recent solo trial case and his experience discovering the story and loving his client. Brian explains the peaks and valleys that come with trying a case solo; his first since 1999. “Even an old man can get a $1 million + verdict” - Rafe Foreman.

2011 TLC graduate and faculty member since 2019, Carson Runge, discusses burnout and frequent paranoia with opposing council after long periods of practicing law. Carson explains how fighting insurance companies and changes with courtroom procedures since COVID have made the last 4 years some of the most difficult of his life. Further, Carson elaborates on how experiences with nature, closeness with family members, and the occasional yoga session keeps him grounded and helps him fight fatigue.

2013 TLC graduate and TLC staff member since 2015, Jacqui Ford, joins Rafe Foreman to reminisce about the recent “Taste of TLC” in Tulsa, OK. Jacqui tells us about her recent experiences in regard to stressfulness, forgiveness, and grace.

2019 TLC graduate, Sammy Duncan, talks to us about a recent trial win regarding a child victim. Sammy describes creativity in the court room and the ups and downs that comes with judges decisions regarding motion in limine.

TLC President John Sloan talks about the current state and future endeavors of the Trial Lawyers College. John touches on everything from our new Executive Director, Becky Barlow, messaging to lawyers curious about registering for an event, and the possibility of a new TLC home base.

1994 graduate and board member from the beginning of the Trial Lawyers College, Cyndy Short, explains the importance and reasons for TLC having a Women’s Regional Seminar. Cyndy details the experiences from last year’s seminar while highlighting some of the staff included in this years Women’s Regional Seminar at Scarritt Bennett in Nashville, TN on February 22-25, 2024.

Welcome to the TLC Podcast Zulfikar Wafai, Rafe Foreman’s first intern in 2011 and public defender in Golden, Colorado. Zulfikar discusses his firm stances on work life balance and how being the best version of himself, personally and professionally, creates the environment to thrive.

Introducing Becky Barlow, graduate of Washburn University in Topeka, Kansas, as she takes on the mantle of Executive Director of the Trial Lawyers College. Listen as Rafe extends a welcome from the TLC tribe to Becky as we hear about her law career journey.

Trial Lawyer and Law Professor at American International Law School in Puerto Rico, Carlos Concepcion, details his experience as host for the recent Trial Lawyers College case consult in Puerto Rico. Carlos goes deep into the processes starting at the warm up, all the way to identifying the villain.

2017 graduate and faculty member, Jason Sosa, describes his recent transition from criminal defense to more civil trial work. Jason elaborates on how supportive and giving the Trial Lawyers College tribe is; also, a recent case consult purchased through TLC fundraising.

2023 TLC graduate Matthew Sahag from Des Moines, Iowa, shares his experience with a recent case consult in Puerto Rico purchased through TLC fundraising. Matthew details his journey that lead to the Trial Lawyers College and how the methods he’s learned there have shaped his practice.

Matt Sahag meets with Rafe Foreman, Paula Estefan, Ron Estefan, and Susan Hutchison in Puerto Rico for a TLC auctioned case consult. Carlos Conception hosted the group where they discussed the importance and impact of digging into the story and connections about Matt's case. Listen as the group performing the consult breaks down the process and the highlight moments they experienced.

TLC Podcast host, Rafe Foreman, gives an invitation regarding podcast guest appearances, TLC board membership and permanent TLC location importance. Rafe offers information and guidance regarding the improvement of the health of the Trial Lawyers College.

2000.2 TLC graduate, Bret Merkle, talks to us about being real and connecting with emotions that motivate behavior. Bret goes over his story of finding purpose in focusing on others and finding joy with the goal of staying there.

Brecken Wagner, 2016 TLC graduate, expounds on the criminal law system in Oklahoma and its tribal courts. Brecken explains the recent Supreme Court decision that has created new tribal courts, starting proceedings, and creating laws for the first time.

Benjamin Bunn joins us to discuss hate and anger and the motivations and reactions we have when we encounter them. Listen as Ben takes us through some of the feelings and emotions we go through as we experience situations charged with hate and anger in this episode of the TLC podcast.

2015 TLC graduate Gina Downes details her experiences being introduced to TLC Methods and her early presumptions around what a lawyer should be. Gina tells us about the preparation and skills that helped her enter the profession straight out of college with confidence and experience from TLC.